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George Rebane

Conservative intellect and commentator Dinesh D’Souza was convicted of a campaign violation that is laughably minor compared to ones that have been committed more numerously by liberals in similar circumstances.  Predictably, the liberals have had their wrists slapped and continued with business as usual.  D’Souza instead faced jail time and was sentenced to eight months supervised detention and five years’ probation.  During the day he was free to travel anywhere with permission as long as he was back in San Diego by the end of the day.  This is how he continued making speeches (his prime income), and performed community service tutoring.

However, a trip to do an interview with Fox News Megyn Kelly – all accomplished in one day – raised the ire of liberal power brokers who demanded that the judge ‘clarify’ D’Souza’s sentence so as to restrict his movements to San Diego County with no more media interviews or speeches or tutoring save by explicit permission of the judge.  So as in the case of the liberals' assault of conservative organizations in Wisconsin, D'Souze also has effectively been muffled above and beyond the constraints of his original sentence (more here) by the Left's cynical use of our judicial system.

This again demonstrates how the judiciary has become politicized by the Left who are now able to go back and have re-sentencing imposed when the original sentence no longer suits them.  The factors that led to D’Souza’s indictment and conviction are another matter that has been well covered over the last year, we won’t repeat it.  But I do want to draw the attention of readers to our steady march toward an autocratic cum tyrannical state.  More here.

Obama administration’s mismanagement of the Ebola epidemic has now reached new depths of incompetence.  The governors of New York and New Jersey have overridden the ineffective federal security procedures to impose their own executive orders quarantining travelers from Africa’s Ebola hotzone.  It is literally incomprehensible that our federal government has not done ANYTHING to slow the flow of Ebola carriers into the country.

With this week’s arrival of Dr Craig from West Africa, who immediately became symptomatic and admitted himself to a Manhattan hospital, we have clear evidence that the government’s management of this crisis is carried out by hacks and imbeciles whose only concern is how the day-to-day ‘optics’ will play out on the Democrats’ performance in the upcoming election.

Can you imagine that today it is just as easy for anyone to replicate the entry of Mr Thomas Duncan, patient one who died of Ebola in Texas over a month ago.  And Dr Spencer's passage through this screening gap confirms this conclusion.  As I stated before, the media has been complicit in this because there is yet a journalist with the wits to ask the direct and most important question –

‘Have any security procedures been put in place that would prevent another infected Ebola carrier like Mr Duncan to pass through airports and proceed on into the countryside?’

Instead, the questions are of such obtuse and fuzzy nature about diseased people getting in that Obama’s mouthpiece Josh Earnest can tell us that “there is no gap in our security procedures” because people are being “screened in Africa and again screened when they arrive”.  That is a patent lie or the man is dumber than a 2×4.  The incubation period and progress of the disease is known well enough that no passenger temperature readings would close any conceivable 'gap' through which Ebola carriers can daily enter by the tens if not hundreds.  And this is just one of now uncountable number of areas and issues roiling the country in which the administration has shown itself to have totally failed in carrying out its constitutional mandates.

Let’s see how they quietly eat/deny their words as the feds attempt to play catch-up to follow the lead of states’ governors forced to take matters into their own hands.

[27oct14 update]  Administrivia –Longtime reader and commenter Steve Frisch has threatened to sue for me for libel over an RR comment thread that he alleged has harmed him.  Apparently there has been an ongoing comment thread between Mr Frisch and other readers that makes reference to a ’13-year-old girl’.   Mr Frisch demands that I remove all comments in that thread.  My first instinct was to fight the threatened suit since RR is an open forum about which Mr Frisch has been aware for years.  As the record shows, Mr Frisch himself has also seriously libeled me and, possibly other commenters.   But upon consultation and reflection I could not find an acceptable outcome to such a pissing match given all else that is going on in my life.  So I have searched the comment streams under my recent posts, and have deleted all the claimed offending comments that I could find (would appreciate a heads up for any that I’ve missed).  In the future you will be able to enjoy the wit and wisdom of Mr Frisch on other blogs more suitable for expressing his thoughts, and perhaps even through some sock puppets which periodically visit RR.  We shall see.

But this experience adds to the growing string of unpleasant episodes that I have had with RR and my attempt to keep it an open and un-moderated forum that accepts the widest range of ideas and critiques from all sides of the ideological spectrum which may be expressed in an equally wide range of manners and modes.  I maintain this blog for sharing and testing my own views, and as a service to the readers who regularly visit these pages.  Fortunately my life is full but my years are limited.  I have been advised by other readers that they very much enjoy the treatment and play of ideas on RR, but are put off by the mudslinging that too often goes on among certain commenters.  I, like probably most other readers, do my best to skip over the mudballs.  With the passage of time I have concluded that perhaps I have been too tolerant – occasionally reading but mostly trying to step over those cow pies is not fun.  We live, we adapt – nuff said.

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51 responses to “Scattershots – 25oct14 (updated 27oct14)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    Dinesh D’Souza needed to be re-sentenced because he appeared on Meagan Kelly’s The Kelly File, one of the top rated cable programs in the nation, some times even beating the O’Reilly Factor audience numbers of almost 2.5 million viewers per night. When Dinesh is scheduled Kelly’s numbers go up. It drives the Libs nuts when that happens.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    russ 439pm – thought I said that 😉

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  3. Walt Avatar

    D’Souza got lynched by the LIB court. But this LIB will get get a pass for attacking one’s religion! http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/25/republican-candidate-attacked-for-being-catholic/ Tell me this isn’t criminal. Yet Preachers may go to jail for refusing to marry a gay couple.
    D’Souza is a victim of persecution because he dared to make a move that pissed off “O”, and the LIBS set out to make an example of him, and to throw a wrench into the production of his next movie.
    Marxism has arrived.

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  4. Russ Steele Avatar

    George@04:46PM
    You did. I was just adding some numbers.

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  5. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I lost a lot of respect for D’Souza over his ad homs while debating the late and lamented Christopher Hitchens over religion. Point Hitch.
    D’S pled guilty to a solid felony charge of laundering campaign donations. Face it, had a left-liberal done the same you’d not be giving them any quarter whatsoever, and you’d be right.

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  6. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I have listened to public radio, the WHO, and Obama concerning the Ebola epidemic. Just can’t wrap my head around the logic that if we purposely allow/take the infected patients out of West Africa to Europe, US, and the rest of the world, then the battle against Ebola can be contained and won. They say quarenteening the places where Ebola is running rampant will make it worse and lead to outbreaks here in the USofA.
    They believe that dilution is the solution.
    Josh Earnest? What a name for a spin doctor. Trust Me would be just as an appropriate name as Josh Earnest. Perhaps he was trying to explain the White House resistance of travel bans from West Africa to here with fingers crossed behind his back.
    The CDC via Obama went political. Remember when they said no worries, you have to roll around in a infected Ebola patient’s vomit to catch it? Just smother yourself with the bodily fluids of the virus carrier and you can catch it. Bet them nurses did exactly that….right…,Trust Me, I am Earnest…..Gosh Josh, dilution is your solution?
    This is serious stuff. Compound the heartbreaking suffering of the dying in West Africa with the fact that some of those regions have one doctor per 100,000 people. The health care workers are on the front lines and folks over there can ill afford to lose even one doctor, yet the doctors and nurses are dropping like flies. Doctors without Borders is doing the best they can, but considering the virus has mutated into 11 types of transmission methods already, dilution is not a solution.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 1052pm – Actually, the record here shows that I’ve given all the quarter available to left-liberals on the same issue over the years. And I’ve done that because I am not yet resolved on money in politics (as I wasn’t on the legalization of drugs). I hope to resolve my position on it, and do solicit readers’ opinions and reasoning on the matter – then I’ll do a piece on it and everybody can take their shots at me. Here’s a list of people I havn’t gone after –
    https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php
    But re D’S – My main conundrum about the First Amendment and political contributions lies in that 1) such contributions are a matter of free speech, and 2) a free speaker has privacy rights, not all of his speech must be made public. In the political arena, I put the onus of the flow of political monies on the receiving politician. There I have long held that it is the duty of the politician to tell his constituents what funds he receives from whom (and perhaps even for what they are/were used) during his campaign. The voters have a ‘right’ to know who else is backing and how they are backing a candidate they are considering. But the source of that information should be forthcoming from the candidate. Now, I know that this isn’t a perfect solution because money can be made follow circuitous source-hiding paths. But that’s up to the opponents, the press, and election consulting firms specializing in such revelations to dig up.
    In other words I do consider that ‘laundering’ campaign monies has different moral implications for non-candidate contributors than for receiving politicians. That’s why I haven’t gone after either the Soroses and Kochs and Steyners and … . Citing their contributions and recipients is not an attack on their right to use their money as free political speech. So, in many ways I consider the current campaign financing laws somewhat perverse. But be that as it may, D’S did violate existing law and was duly sentenced.
    My main gripe with the liberal power brokers is that their real target was D’S himself as an effective thinker, media producer, and speaker for conservative ideas and causes. That is the free speech what they wanted to silence. Given the sums involved, they couldn’t care less. And it’s the way that they have effected their true intent that gets my goat. They accepted the first sentence, misjudging that D’S would still be making effective speeches and giving interviews, until the Kelly File affair. Then in a panic they revealed the true influence they have in subrogating our justice system by going back and getting their judge to tighten the screws on D’S’s sentence.
    BTW, I would be interested in knowing how you think that D’S dissed Hitchens.

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  8. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    I’d have to sit through it again, George, to actually pull out the words and describe the delivery, but by my recollection it was clear DDS was preaching to his choir and not making a logical argument, free of ad hominems.

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  9. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    I guess no one here is going to mention that one of the two people who D’Souza used to break the contribution law were Denise Odie Joseph II, who D’Souza was having an affair with at the time, and who happened to also be married. The second was the man Ms. Joseph was married to, who later said he knew nothing about the contribution. (Imagine that!)
    Actually, Ms. Odie Joseph II had just recently married within the last 3 months when she an D’nesh checked into a motel together at a conference and were confronted by fellow Christians who found it odd that D’Souza, married 20 years, had someone other than his wife Dixie (how ironic is that?) sleeping over with him.
    Of course when confronted he said ‘nothing happened’ and that he had filed for divorce, but he actually did not file for divorce until several weeks after getting caught. Instead D’Souza described her as his fiancé while he was still married to his then estranged wife.
    Well, I guess if you are going to break the campaign laws and risk someone else going to jail with you for the offense it would make sense to do it with a 29 year old conservative hottie whose blog was named “ideniselustafter”.
    Of course if I were Ms. Jospeh’s recently married husband I would be kind of pissed.
    Call me ‘old fashioned’ but I think this is kind of sleazy boys….
    Perhaps people who make a career of moralize about other people should think twice about their own behavior. But that is OK, I expect each of you to say in your own ways, ‘hey someones personal life is irrelevant’.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Bill as you can read theFrisch he is in denial of what he wrote. That is his style. If he does not copy/paste he is clueless. He is too easy.

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  11. fish Avatar
    fish

    <i.But then that is really what this blog is all about…from George to his followers…just a bunch of frustrated old men being assholes….
    Frustrated…..? Why would we be frustrated when our ideological opposites are such a collection of various social and political pathologies?
    So eminently mock worthy and so easily mockable!

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  12. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    It should amaze me that Frisch can tell the truth and still get it wrong, but it doesn’t. Checking (trust me, I’ve never bothered to pry into his personal life as ignorance can be bliss when you truly could not care less), D’S had been living apart from his wife for a couple years when caught sleeping with the other, who he introduced to others at the as his fiance, not exactly subtle or sneaky. His divorce was filed a couple weeks before he was outed in an article, and, I’d guess, the first billable hour from his divorce lawyer dated from before that hotel stay that has Frisch so hot and bothered.
    This strikes me as a whole lot less amoral than the affairs d’Clinton or Kennedy which were comparatively seedy.
    The whole ‘tsk tsk’ by Frisch is also rooted in another straw man… Conservatives don’t hold themselves up as models of moral behaviors… they hold up the moral behavior as the ideal that should be a guide, but it’s regularly twisted by the Frisch’s of the world who would prefer such destructive behaviors as having multiple children with multiple partners out of wedlock and without means of support be honored. One of the last great Democrats, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, nailed it decades ago, and today, births to unmarried “non Hispanic white” mothers is above what it was for blacks when Moynihan wrote the report, up from 2% in the ’50’s to about 30%, an increase of ~1500%. That isn’t good, Steve, admit it.
    http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/412839-The-Moynihan-Report-Revisited.pdf

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF, how come every time you come on RR riding your high horse you invariably wind up calling people nasty names before you depart assuring everyone that you’ll never return? Is there no liberal intellect out there with a civil tongue?

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  14. Walt Avatar

    George.. Remember the tail of the the scorpion and the toad? How the scorpion “promised” not to sting for a ride across the stream but did it anyway? ( It’s the nature of the beast.) That can be applied to all LIBs and Progs in general.
    Just how “he” would survive without the income of “other people’s money” is the real question.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The thot plickens on Ebola. Interesting to see how it’s turning into a States vs Obama issue. O says let em in, no worries, folks who are been exposed to Ebola have been adequately screened before boarding a US bound airplane. States say the CDC is not telling the truth and holding back and if the Feds won’t protect us, we will protect our our citizens. Go pound sand, Uncle Sam.
    The first 6 months of research after the E outbreak (while O was saying nothing to see here) reveals what I suspected. This is a wildly wicked virus that has already mutated into 100 forms. THAT is 100 in just the first months of study. The University of Minnesota research on E from their infectious disease center says they CANNOT rule out the possibility of transmission of E virus via aerosols, aka, airborne transmission.
    http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/
    If that is not enough for the CDC to wake up and smell the West Africa coffee, E can easily penetrate unbroken skin. Hey, unlike AIDS, you can catch it from a toilet seat or a drop of sweat or touching the handrail on a bus.
    The CDC can’t have it both ways, albeit they are slowly starting to commence to begin to come around. They say to the public no worries sitting next to a E carrier on a bus as long as they don’t sneeze on you, but then they say to the carrier don’t board buses. Hate to be a cabbie n liberal New York in the ensuing months. Next time you are at the grocery store and see all the good folks squeezing the fruits, vegetables, and Charmin, just think about the potential of taking the gift that keeps on giving home with you to your loved ones via your unbroken skin. Suddenly a can of turkey spam looks appetizing.
    The only comparable epidemic comparable here on our soil was the Spanish flu of 1918-1919 that claimed 600,000 lives. The US was 50% urban then, it’s 80% now. Commercial air travel was on the drawing board then, commonplace now.
    Obama calls me a fear monger. I say Go Pound Sand, Great Half Wit Father in Washington.

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  16. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    correction to above Rumble in the Jungle. The pandemic of 1918-19 took over 600,000 lives in 1918 alone, a mere 330,000 souls in 1919. Just a million souls, give or take. Breaking news. A 5 year old boy is being transported to a New York hospital in full protective gear right now. The young lad showed no signs of E when he flew in from West Africa….not now, apparently.

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  17. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    George, I can’t fault you for making the choice you did and apparently putting Frisch under moderation/banishment, but I suspect any court would have noticed the imaginary person was invented out of whole cloth by Frisch himself as a defamatory vehicle.
    A stitch in time saves nine… I am on one email list that occasionally has tempers rising (aviators are notorious for rampant testosterone) but is kept on an even keel with a policy of no personal attacks that is evenly enforced.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: George Rebane | 26 October 2014 at 05:27 PM
    If you are going to establish a new anti ad hominem policy I probably need to be banished as well! By any objective measure I’m probably “Public Enemy #1” in this regard.

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  19. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    fish, it’s truly amazing how deep can cut sticking to demolishing what people write or do, not just attacking them for breathing.
    Funny thing is the supposed “whining” that caused Frisch to make the ageist and sexist characterization he made that is now on the PC list was, and I quote,
    “10 Quatloos say “Dave Smith” is Michael P. Anderson”.
    Compare that to the whining that ended last night.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    fish 1201pm – I’m not sure if you’re referring to your past sins, or are telling me that you will not be able to control yourself in the future 😉

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I have been naughty and I deserve everything done to my posts. Me bad, send me to your room for further pleasurable punishment. Make it hurt, make me scream out for more. I have been berry berry naughty. I am waiting. Hey, is there a doctor in the house or what?
    Glad a good compromise has been reached. I will atone for my past misdeeds, promise. Pinky promise. I am also sorry that my words were misinterpreted and taken as hurtful. Hmmm, how many politicians get away with that nowadays. Works every time. Reader Digest version would be I regret I misspoke. It’s NAMBLA, not NAMBA. Learn something new everyday.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    Does your new cleansed blog protocols allow the use of body shapes in conversations. You know words like fatty, obese etc.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    fish 1201pm – I’m not sure if you’re referring to your past sins, or are telling me that you will not be able to control yourself in the future 😉
    You’ve been allowing me to vent here for the past 18 months….I think you already know I have very little impulse control when discussing matters political.

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 229pm – As stated before, I prefer that such non-relevant descriptors be saved for self-deprecation purposes and not cast upon others.
    fish 245pm – Well Mr fish, let’s proceed on a case by case basis 😉

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar

    Good call George.
    Got it Todd?

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  26. fish Avatar
    fish

    Does your new cleansed blog protocols allow the use of body shapes in conversations. You know words like fatty, obese etc.
    So if I understand Mr. Emerys preferences….shapes and references to shapes….round, spherical, Oblate spheroid etc. are now frowned upon. Adjectives like fatty and obese are still acceptable?
    Good to know.

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    What fascinates me about the lefty mind like Paul Emery;s is this. He uses all kinds o descriptive derogatory terms to denigrate conservatives minds and thought processes but is outraged that someone calls someone “chubby”. You just can’t make this stuff up.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    To submit to socially accepted norms in the future, I will use the term “Jolly”. We all know the old adage that fat people are “jolly”. If one is offended, they can sue me, take moi to court, and prove to the court and a jury to their peers they are not fat, a fatty, nor grossly obese. I am confident the evidence would stand up in court without the aid of a lift truck or other hydraulic devises, but why would a jolly person submit themselves to more public humiliation that their reflection in the candy shop window already provides?
    You can count of me, dear readers, to play along to get along. If anyone has noticed, I have been slowly substituting the accurate noun libhole with the ever more precise term Marxist. It’s those little things that make such a big difference.

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  29. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Paul, I think the essence is, for the time being, that the particular hot button that caused ol what’s ‘is name to blow (is that an OK word?) a gasket not be repeated, even though he was the one to introduce it into the discussion.

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  30. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Careful Bill T – Jolly could be seen as happy or blissful or (dare I say) gay!
    In the original meaning, of course. Normally not an issue, but we are in dark times.
    The libs are unhappy these days about their causes all going south big time. Where to turn? They have already spent their arsenal of personal insults (fascist, racist, etc) and now it’s getting ugly.
    Can’t we all just get along?

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish
    You know what I’m talking about. For example I can’t call Todd a Pencil Neck Geek according to our host.

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  32. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Todd Juvinall 27Oct14 03:21 PM
    The difference between Paul Emery’s and your derogatory terms is relevance. It can be relevant for Paul (and others) to indicate that a lack of character, intellect, and perhaps even class may be at the root of a flawed position. To characterize somebody with whom you disagree as “chubby” cannot in any way be relevant.
    Capiche?

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  33. Paul Emery Avatar

    Or Kesti calling someone on their hypocrisy such as in the case of farm subsidies for so called free market conservatives .

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  34. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Paul Emery 27Oct14 06:57
    You are correct, Paul. To characterize Todd in that way would be irrelevant to anything he believes or has written. What is more, such a statement would be incorrect. I’ve seen Todd and his neck is not thin enough to suggest a pencil-like appearance. Further, I doubt that he practices the biting of heads off of live chickens.

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  35. Walt Avatar

    Or Paul, getting subsidized air time, and all at the same time griping about someone else’s subsidize.. The true definition of hypocrisy. “It’s fine if I get it, but wrong for the other guy.”

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  36. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Paul Emery 27Oct14 07:07 PM
    If you’re suggesting that I have called anybody on the matter of farm subsidy hypocrisy, Paul, I would appreciate reference to the same as I don’t recall having done so.

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar

    Sorry Kesti. Should have been a comma such as:
    Or Kesti, calling someone on their hypocrisy such as in the case of farm subsidies for so called free market conservatives .
    I meant to emphasize rhetoric to indicate that a “lack of character, intellect, and perhaps even class may be at the root of a flawed position.”
    I didn’t mean to attribute you to that position.

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  38. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Paul Emery 27Oct14 at 07:23 PM
    Thank you, Paul.
    It’s interesting that this misunderstanding has occurred at this time as I had considered posting a short grammar lesson concerning delimiting names used used in this way in my 7:03 of today. I would have included how the lack of delimiting commas can affect the meaning of sentences and that such a lack has lately become as common as has omitting they -ly ending of (most) adverbs. You know, as in, “shop local” and, “drive safe.”

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Kesti, you are correct it would be an offense for Paul Emery to call me a opencil neck geek but if he calls you a tubular blowhard he would also be punished by the host. Of course you are never to be mistaken as tubular. Paul could also call me a tall magnificent stud as I have been by female TSA agents and he has seen my numerous sidekicks of immense phyiscal beauty of the feminine type (other than psychologists). He is simply a jealous man of my many talents, one of which is attracting the opposite sex with my good looks. But sionce we cannot say anyhting about someone’s looks (even though a chubby person’s persona is well known as a mental issue), he is unable to now portray me accuratelt that way. Capiche?

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  40. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    Paul Emery 27Oct14 07:23 PM
    Thank you, Paul.
    It’s interesting that this misunderstanding has occurred at this time as I had considered posting a short grammar lesson concerning delimiting names used used in this way in my 7:03 of today. I would have included how the lack of delimiting commas can affect the meaning of sentences and that such a lack has lately become as common as has omitting they -ly ending of (most) adverbs. You know, as in, “shop local” and, “drive safe.”
    Todd Juvinall 27Oct14 07:39 PM
    You are an amazing person, Todd. I find your articles to be profoundly interesting.

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  41. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    To paraphrase a jolly humanoid, “Debate my ideas, not my appearance.”
    Paul, don’t think pointing out hypocrisy of others or groups of people would ever fall under the category of personal attacks. You can repeat “Bush did it too” until the cows come home and your ideas are not censored nor barred. And calling someone a pencil neck geek may technically fall under the category of defamation of character, but only a butt hurt egomaniac nincompoop would consider calling foul. Yes, our community has some rather colorful characters and a nice balanced assortment of oddballs, goofballs, wing nuts, idiots, jerks, ogres, all which make living here so friggin special.
    I, myself, am a very sensitive caring vulnerable sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic, but no worries. The doc says we are all better now. And nobody could ever call me anything that has not already been directed my way. I do need to remember that some folks can’t take a joke and were last in line when The Good Lord passed our humor bones and brains. This latest dust up is all my fault and I am a lowly worm. Time to climb under the shrink’s couch as I feel a bit insecure right now.
    Mr. Paul, two things: I have noticed that you have stopped the broken record of “Bush did it too.” Thank you. But, I have an honest question. Do we have to preface every single event or topic with some long preamble of every person/group that did it too or
    pointing out every hypocrisy no matter what the subject matter. Like, you will never drop it or move on until someone says “yep, that group did it too and weren’t criticized by us. That only causes people like moi to never ever give you the satisfaction of factually agreeing with your point. fun to watch your frustration growing grow. Every single meeting hall or building or workplace or place of worship is full of hypocrites.
    It would serve you better to point out hypocrisy maybe just 3-4 times a thread instead of 20-25. Heard you the first time and no long preamble of the sins of mankind needed nor long disclaimers before any/all topics.
    2nd, I met John Tollis, The Golden Greek, who made it his trademark calling people ” you pencil necked geek.” Loved it. He even asked an interviewer “when is that pimple between your shoulders going to form into a head?” Don’t think the interviewer sued, but times have change. yo Paul, exactly when will that pimple between your shoulders form into a head? 🙂

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  42. Paul Emery Avatar

    Kesti
    Actually I stole “pencil neck geek” from the wrestler Freddie Blassie and later Ray Stephens. He would use that phrase yo characterize his obviously over matched opponents.

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  43. Paul Emery Avatar

    That was meant for Bill

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  44. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Yes, Paul, it was Freddie Blassie, not John Tollis, both of whom would hang out at Muscle Beach in Venice and took the time to chat with me as a youth. Memory hasfailed me. The interviewer was non other than Dick Lane…”Whoooaa Nelly, the dam is busting” was Dick Lane’s trademark when Freddie or Haystack Calhoun would get on the top ropes and do the belly flop on some motionless opponent laying on the canvas. That was when wrestling was real….in my mind. I considered Freddie a bad guy as he played the bad guy role with abandon. I was rooting for Bobo Brazil and his world famous coconut (head) butt, but evil Freddie jammed a thumb in good guy Bobo’s eye. Not fair. That was when Andre the Giant was young and new to the scene and seeing The Giant standing amused while an opponent tried in vain to wrap his arms around Andre to lock his hands in a death grip bear hug was a sight for young eyes to behold.
    Funny, I meet the cameraman (Dick Lane’s cameraman at the Olympic Auditorium) about ten years ago in his home in a small community called Lake Wildwood, CA. I asked him when was the last time he heard Whooaa Nelly! The dam is bustin’. Small world.
    All niceties aside, Paul, when will that pimple between your shoulders form into a head? Thank goodness for Freddie Blassie.

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  45. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Brother Rebane, it seems you have been “sandbagged” To sustain a charge of slander or libel, the plaintifff must establish that the s/l was both believable and believed by someone. The exchanges in question establish, unquestionably, that all were made in jest, hence failing to meet both bars.
    Sleep well, all jesters. L

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    LarryW 1048pm – Excellent points Brother Wirth, and ones considered. It was the ‘pain in the ass’ factor that carried the decision. I want RR to also be enjoyable.

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  47. Gregory Avatar
    Gregory

    Jest?
    BTW all this talk about “Classy” Freddy Blassie got me thinking about “wrestling”. Found this at Gallup.com:
    ” A new Gallup poll conducted August 16-18 [1999] shows that only 18% of Americans consider themselves to be fans of professional wrestling. This compares to Gallup’s estimates that about 59% of Americans are professional baseball fans, and that 41% are professional basketball fans.
    Not surprisingly, wrestling fans tend to be young males with high school educations who earn less than $30,000 annually — and their political ideology tends to lean Democratic. Very few college graduates claim to be professional wrestling fans, and the fan percentage among those over age 30 is also quite low. One interesting note: despite the predominance of white wrestlers on wrestling shows, the percentage of black fans is greater than the percentage of white fans by a two-to-one margin (33% of blacks count themselves as professional wrestling fans, compared to 16% of whites). There are few regional differences, except that the East has fewer wrestling fans than other regions of the country do.”

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  48. Walt Avatar

    Ahhh.. Wrestling… There is a cage match going on as we speak. ” Two go in,, and one will come out… Alive…”
    Right VS LIB,, and the bell has rung, and the fight is on, and there is only one rule… There are non. Every dirty trick is fair game. Place your bets.
    The “Right” guy is now the odds on favorite. He is expected to dismantle his opponent
    and hang the body parts on the the chain link fence as the appendages are removed one by one. What makes it move entertaining is that ” Lefty’s” own cheerleaders are handing ” Righty” the brass knuckles, switch blade, rusty pipe, and the belly gun. “Lefty” was handed a rubber knife. ” Now go get’m”
    To view the fight program just visit any number of media web sites. Nope,,, it looks like curtains for “lefty”. Even the undertaker has paid him a visit to take measurements for the biodegradable pine box.
    Every good fight has a ring girl or two. Nancy Pelosi will first to strut for round one. ( The real bet is here… 100 to 1 you can’t keep your lunch down as she walks the cage in fishnets and heals in her first baiting suit she ever owned.) Well,, I already lost that bet….
    Bring your own plastic ponchos if your in the first five rows. The blood is hard to get out of hemp clothing.

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  49. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Walt, good analogy concerning political “wrassling”. The same parallels occurred to me thinking about Fred Blassie and watching some real old tapes from the 50’s and 61 of Dick Lane. Old black and white stuff. Best one was Dick Lane describing what Fred was doing off camera outside the ring on a night he showed up without invitation. Mr Blassie had got into it with security guards, body slammed one of them, more guards were called, and describing Freddie’s “crazied eyes” going nuts and finally escorted out in handcuffs. What struck me was the sparse crowd of just a few hundred and the number of women (seemed to be the majority of the spectators and really buying into it), but I digress.
    Suppose I have mixed feeling on this. part of me wants Congress to get er done, yet the dominate part is of the James Carvell School of Hardball Politics where you hit hard, hit often sticking to your political ideology and duke it out. Neither side will go softy into that deep still night as the clash of ideologies meet, fight, and some will win, some will lose, Good Time Charlie gots the blues. Somehow in the random chaos, it seems to work with neither side getting all they wanted, but all they could stand.
    good time Charlie gots the blues because if this election is all about a widespread dislike of O, that does not mean the voters are handing the Republicans a mandate. Not in the least. We need to win in the wresting arena of ideas, but just boo Fred Blassie as a bad guy. A victory is not necessarily a mandate or turning the ship of state around.
    Well, enough of early wrestling when it was real and not PC, but I digress once again
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzNagM0JN_4

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