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Sandbox – 25oct14

25 October 2014

[Not inviting its continuance here, but I also call your attention to the rather voluminous, detailed, and ongoing Measure S debate between Ms Patricia Smith and Mr Don Bessee at 'Measure S, As It Is'. On that issue the dust has yet to settle. gjr]

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143 responses to “Sandbox – 25oct14”

Walt

28 October 2014

I guess Nevada Co. will be making national news on this one.
Nope,, this isn’t going to look good.

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Walt

28 October 2014

What gets me, is why TL isn’t locked up. If it was any other ” John Q. Public” that’s just where they would be. Favoritism due to being an elected official?

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Bill Tozer

28 October 2014

Latest Union update provides what inquiring minds what to know: details, gory details, with a heads up on Thursday. Noticed the Major Crimes Unit busted a couple up in NSJ for guns, drugs, and child porn. Feel sorry for TL’s girlfriend. She must be devastated having the rug pulled out from under with the walls falling down around her. The closest are often the last to know. Very sad day for her.
Like I said in an earlier post on this thread, I would not touch this with a stolen dick. Get ready for the sound of bullets being fired at The Union as the radical extremist hard left fringe fire a few volleys in another attempt to shoot the messenger. Yikes!
All this local stuff is usually pretty petty and boring. But, I suppose it serves a purpose by blowing Ebola and MSNBC’s 7 year low ratings off the front page and it was a nice brief distraction from the real world of process vs substance. Next up: Local food critic appalled by sign advertising non local jerky. Yawn.

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

I find no joy in this kind of stuff. I am saddened.

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George Rebane

29 October 2014

Yesterday morning Jo Ann, our puppy Puna, and I attended the placement of the new KVMR tower on Spring Street. It was a festive community gathering with a country music band playing appropriate tunes and about 100 neighbors all witnessing the installation of Nevada City’s new landmark. Lots of chatting with station manager David Levin, KVMR board member Mike Young, and all the usual people we all know living in a small community. We brought our folding chairs and puppy bed, and had the best (only?) seats in the ‘house’ to view the goings on. Jo Ann took a lot of pictures which I’m too lazy to post, especially since Mr Pelline has a very nice one on his blog.
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2014/10/29/new-kvmr-tower/

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

Sorry I missed it. LOL! Small town is right. When I was married my wife had the third floor space above KVMR across the street and I remodeled it into her hair salon. Later a couple of years ago I did the bidding for the insulation of this new building. Of course back when I was in politics I debated a number of lefty scofflaws that had shows on the KVMR dial. Small town is right. I never took my doggy bed though. That has to be a first! LOL!

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Walt

29 October 2014

Your going to LOVE the latest “executive privilege” from the W.H.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/29/lawsuit-white-house-wont-show-evidence-to-back-up-polar-vortex-claims/

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Gregory

29 October 2014

This local October Surprise is a fine example of why early voting is a bad idea.

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

Gregory, you are so right. Everyone should vote on the same day and the results posted by nine PM that day.

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

Oh, and Pelline is now defending his claim to have talked to the Sheriff before it hit the airwaves and in Butte County! What a hoot!

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Gregory

29 October 2014

Catching up…
Master Ben Emery says, “I will go out on a limb and say this has about 0.001% chance of being true. A sitting elected official using public computer to access child pornography, give me a break.”
It would take an awfully stupid or delusional sitting elected official to do that, this is true. Time will tell if the local Right or the Left have had Lamphier correctly characterized.
Jeffy Pelline credits YubaNet’s restraint to Pascale’s experience as a journalist, compared to the rank amateurs at KNCO and The Union, I suppose. That the local left (including both YubaNet and Pelline) want this to go away as a bad political stunt should be no surprise. That may well be the case but if I was a progressive politician being framed in an ugly and defamatory attack under color of authority, I’m sure I could find a great Nevada County lawyer in about 5 minutes to help me craft a strong Denial-Denial (as opposed to a non-denial Denial) to come out swinging.

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Gregory

29 October 2014

Regarding the tower, let me get this straight: now we have a fake FM transmission tower sitting on the corner of a fake historic building added to the rear of a real historic building, and this is progress?

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Walt

29 October 2014

Really? ” A sitting elected official using public computer to access child pornography, give me a break.”
It sure wouldn’t be the first time. Plenty believe they will never get caught.

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George Boardman

29 October 2014

Use a public computer to access child porn? Whenever I’ve said in the past “nobody would be that stupid,” somebody is always that stupid. This may be another example.
It’s bad enough that one of his two favored elected might be in big trouble, but Pelline can’t stand the fact that The Union is doing exactly what it’s supposed to do.
The paper has been aggressive, thorough and fair in its coverage of the Lamphier affair, letting the chips fall where they may. YubaNet limped into this story Tuesday, merely confirming what The Union had already reported, and has done nothing to try to catch up since then.
Lamphier has gone into hiding and has not responded to numerous requests for a comment, but Pelline blames The Union for failing to get his side of the story. Only Jeffy’s acolytes would believe the nonsense he’s peddling.

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

Pelline’s acolytes are all sock puppets. No one really of substance in the community gives him credence anyway.

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JeffPelline

29 October 2014

George,
You wrote “YubaNet limped into this story Tuesday …”
YubaNet wrote a story on Monday, not Tuesday.
http://yubanet.com/regional/Search-warrant-executed-on-Friday-at-Lamphier-residence.php#.VFF-gVboZz9

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George Rebane

29 October 2014

JeffPelline 456pm – Pray, where did I ever write that???? More of your crack investigative journalism? (This is another matchless revelation of what that man’s career has been like. Readers should note that he used a direct quote. What does this say about the fabrications in his own writings?)
ToddJ 800am – Good words that we should all abide by until at least until TerryL is charged with something. Terry has build up an account as a gentleman in this community, and he deserves the benefit of that. I have been as critical as anyone about his public policies, but never to impugn him as a good human being. Let’s show some class and keep the rumor mill and innuendos at a low. Thanks.

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Bill Tozer

29 October 2014

Nobody would be that stupid??? I recall a sitting President of The United States and the Leader of the Free World gobbling the goop of a young intern in the Oval Office and cramming cigars up her birth canal. The intern was slightly older than his one and only daughter. Why would he risk it all??? Senseless and reckless. Nobody could be that stupid. Oppps, strike that. From the White to the outhouse, from Yale to jail, people indeed can be that stupid. TL is accused to doing the taboo thang. At least what Clinton did was considered stupid, but not a felony carrying a few years in the Big House. Those inmates do not like child porn lubbers in the least. Almost as bad as being a child rapist to the boys on tier 1-3.

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Walt

29 October 2014

Not long ago I mentioned parents dressing their little kids up as pot leaves.
I wasn’t joking.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnathonw
They are available all over the place. “Okay, so for all you wonderful stoner parents out there. This one is for you.”
Do tell why a visit from CPS wouldn’t be warranted..

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JeffPelline

29 October 2014

George,
Do you read the email threads in your own blog? The “George” referred to George Boardman’s comment at 3:13 p.m, not yours. Down Fido. ROFLOL.

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Barry Pruett

29 October 2014

Go to yubanet and read her analysis of the log entries for TerryL’s computer. Great analysis. Really good.

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JeffPelline

29 October 2014

Yes, YubaNet has showed that experience counts on a story like this.

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Barry Pruett

29 October 2014

Is that why you waited five days to mention it? You wear you Union axe on your forehead.

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George Rebane

29 October 2014

JeffPelline 629pm – On RR when you respond, make it unambiguous. Use a moniker like ‘GeorgeR’ or ‘GeorgeB’ or better yet, time tag the comment you are responding to so the reader doesn’t have to memorize the content of countless comments and comment threads here to understand who you’re talking to. Perhaps you have developed your habit on blogs with only a handful of comments where it’s hard to be ambiguous. Capice?

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JeffPelline

29 October 2014

Barry,
“Mention” it? I wrote about it on Wednesday, two days later.
George, you screwed up. Just apologize.
BTW, Go Giants. Go “S.F. Values.” ROFLOL!

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Walt

29 October 2014

In all likelihood there may be some truth to this, despite the implied “set up”.
A smart “guilty” person WILL keep his mouth shut and stay out of public view.
A person who knows at his core that he’s innocent would be in the middle of Main St.
professing his innocents and yelling he was set up to anyone who would listen.
Just ask yourself the same question… “What would you do?” if charged with something you didn’t do? I doubt staying quiet would be at the top of the list.

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fish

29 October 2014

George,
Do you read the email threads in your own blog? The “George” referred to George Boardman’s comment at 3:13 p.m, not yours. Down Fido. ROFLOL.
George probably doesn’t read them all jeffy…..do you ghost write all the comments on yours?
…and jeffy….this whole “San Francisco Values” thing…..it just sounds dumb! Just sayin…..
Now off you go!

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JeffPelline

29 October 2014

“fish,” (AKA David Larsen of Carmichael), let it go buddy. You’re not even a local. “Now off you go”! LOL.

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Todd Juvinall

29 October 2014

fish, Pelline will beat his dead horse of SF values to death. What ever he means he must be keeping it to himself as some sort of inside joke. SF is a great city run by stupid liberals who just got lucky. The Giants players probably don’t vote for the Pelosi’s or Willie Browns and are not metro sexuals (like Pelline) either. So, let Pelline keep making an arse out of himself. Too funny!

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Bill Tozer

29 October 2014

Walt @8:56. Everybody reacts differently to a personal crisis. Some need time to sort it out, some react (rather than respond), others fall into a deep depression and others will go ape crazy and go shoot out every street light in downtown. Just like losing a loved one. People deal with grief differently, and we grieve when we lose something. If this plays out the way I suspect as a possibility, the uncharged person of interest will lose his reputation, his standing in the community, his mate, his home and will be in Federal Court asking for a public defender. He will also lose his community he/she loves as leaving town may be the only viable option upon reflection. No winners here.
Putting the non accused aside and talking about ethics in the workplace in general, I am proud as heck that someone had the gonads big enough to think of our community and care enough to do the right thing by reporting possible child porn surfing at the workplace. The unnamed person must of had suspicions, verified their suspicions to some degree, and turned over whatever evidence they had to someone who would look into it. Whether the unnamed letter writer delivering the goods with photos included was right or completely wrong about TL, just the fact that a person took the bold step to kick it up the chain of command for a review. That took courage, ethics, respect for the law and concern for our little ones.
Secondly, I think our County LE should forward their evidence (if any) to the FBI and let the FBI take over. They have the experience, the expertise, the resources, the advanced forensic labs and technology to make the call. This would relieve our Sheriff’s Office of appearing biased in this fragmented community. The FBI has legions of lawyers, investigators, and resources to recommend charges or drop this torrid matter. And the Bureau is familiar with cases like this. The Martha Steward case reminded us all that lying to a FBI investigator gets someone more time in the Black Hole of Calcutta than the crime itself. Just a thought. An outside agency could be considered an impartial third party at this point.
The only drawback is local reporters would have to drive down to Sac to those beautiful marble floors in the Federal Courthouse. It impressed me and I have seen a lot.
Third, I need to remind myself that this whole matter may affect a candidate running for a two-bit position as a councilperson in a two-bit small town. Not exactly earth shaking nor even a blip on the radar. I wish TL a good night’s sleep, something that one can’t buy or find in dark times.

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Bonnie McGuire

29 October 2014

The wonderful difference between Mr. Rebanes blog and Mr. Pellines blog is that Mr. Rebane allows everyone to join in the discussion if they want, whereas Mr. Pelline doesn’t. Rather strange behavior for someone who considers himself an authority regarding the purpose and operation of our local newspaper that keeps us informed.

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Don Bessee

29 October 2014

Todd J. 956pm Be careful the metro sexuals are going to come and protest your connecting them to lefty jeffy and may even launch a class action law suit for defamation! They are very protective of their public image.

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Gregory

30 October 2014

The Giants validate Jeffie’s “San Francisco values” every bit as much as East German “female” olympic weightlifters winning gold medals validated der sogennante DDR.
It’s just a baseball team assembled to play in SF. Nice for its fans that it won, and a great game to the very last pitch to the very last batter who could have delivered a win with another homer.

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Walt

30 October 2014

Jeffy needs to go moderate himself. “S.F. values” is the main reason of the local decline.

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Walt

30 October 2014

In other news, the Hawaiian version of Nevada City ECO nuts are fit to be tied that one of the homeowners has built a berm to try and divert the lava flow to save his property.
” How dare he do such a thing!” The bitch is from “culturally insensitive” to “so now the other guy might fry.”
Yes… How dare someone protect his property from destruction.

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Barry Pruett

30 October 2014

I am really happy how Yubanet and The Union are collaborating this morning.
http://www.theunion.com/news/13581636-113/web-lamphier-yubanet-elements
Pascale and The Union are showing what teamwork looks like. Jeff Pelline always complains that this community does not collaborate enough. That is just his “rhetorical” way of complaining that nobody wants to work with him and who could blame them. Nobody can collaborate with a narcissist as demonstrated by Pelline’s termination from The Union.
The reporting by Yubanet and The Union and investigation by the Sheriff on this matter has been fair and balanced. We should be proud that our county is doing this the right way. Kudos to Pascale and The Union staff.

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fish

30 October 2014

“fish,” (AKA David Larsen of Carmichael), let it go buddy. You’re not even a local. “Now off you go”! LOL.
Ahhh…when you play the, “You ain’t from round here….” card I’ve struck a nerve! Well then jeffy, perhaps you like to elaborate on just what “San Francisco Values™” are and how “San Francisco Values Prevail™” apply vis a vis professional baseball.
…..and as always LOL….buddy.

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JeffPelline

30 October 2014

Barry,
You fool. My blog has been collaborating with the Sacramento Bee (the region’s biggest newspaper) for years.
As “fish” has pointed out, my blog’s content appears on the Bee’s website. In addition, I meet with their staff and some of my articles appear in the Bee’s print edition.
I’m glad The Union is following suit (in this case with YubaNet) but it is following, not leading.
One of the joys of not working at The Union (a tiny newspaper in comparison to the Bee and S.F. Chronicle) is being able to tell fellow residents like you that you are a fool — to your face! LOL.
BTW, I hear you tried to get a job at the Rood Center but weren’t hired. Is that true?

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Barry Pruett

30 October 2014

Maybe Jeff was referring to this when he says San Francisco values.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/30/as-san-francisco-giants-fans-revel-in-series-victory-celebration-turns-violent/
The Sac Bee collaborates with you becasue they do not really know you. If you are so smart (which I highly doubt), why do you not work at the Chronicle or the Bee? My guess is that they will not hire you either.
Again, kudos to Yubanet and The Union for getting it right…and not waiting five days to report the obvious.

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fish

30 October 2014

You fool. My blog has been collaborating with the Sacramento Bee (the region’s biggest newspaper) for years.
Barry…jeffys “contribution” to the Bee appears to be little more linking to work done by others, and aggregated on “Yubanet” (if you can show me evidence of a body of original work I’m happy to see it). Your blog doesn’t count (A position that I believe you yourself held until “you decided to freelance and nobody else even suggest that I should leave the Union under threat of termination”) unless it’s content is in the Bees “Food” or “Local Gossip” sections.
Maybe it’s just like the old days and he fetches coffee for Pascale instead of Herb Caen?

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Russ Steele

30 October 2014

The Urban Dictionary on San Francisco Values.
1) . . . tolerance, entrepreneurship, and creativity.
2) noun, — gay marriage, cutting and running from Iraq, coddling terrorists, raising taxes, amnesty for illegals
Which one of the San Francisco Values was it that allowed the Giants to win? Mr Pelline often peppers his economic proclamations with the need for Nevada County to adopt SF Values. Which of those values is he talking about? Maybe he will share is definition and we can see how those values can be applied to some of the real problems in our community.

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JeffPelline

30 October 2014

Barry,
They know me, and I have the best of both worlds: getting my content published in the Bee (the biggest paper around), writing my blog and publishing a magazine. I also can call you a fool to your face if I feel like it. It’s liberating.
But you didn’t answer my question about you trying to get a job at the Rood Center but not getting hired. I guess they “know you.” Plus, your resume has more holes in it than a piece of Swiss cheese. I wouldn’t blame them.
LOL.

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Russ Steele

30 October 2014

Mr Pelline writes: . . . my blog’s content appears on the Bee’s website. In addition, I meet with their staff and some of my articles appear in the Bee’s print edition.
The Bee often needs some puffy pieces to keep the ads from bumping together on the page.
I was one of the original bloggers to sign up for the Bee program and after about six months, left the when it was clear my posts were too conservative for the Sac Bee editors. After a number of exchanges with the editors about their promotion of anthropogenic global warming, while ignoring to the real world data, I just stopped trying.
The Sac Bee is a left leaning news outlet and Mr Pelline’s lefty puff pieces are welcome to help the editors keep their declining number of ads from bumping together.

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JeffPelline

30 October 2014

As for S.F. values, The Giants display all of the traits. We could use some of that up here!
Here’s one of my favorite stories from when I worked at The Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Pacific-Bell-Giants-Strike-Deal-for-Park-50-2987832.php

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fish

30 October 2014

But you didn’t answer my question about you trying to get a job at the Rood Center ……
…and you didn’t answer mine about how “San Francisco Values”™ relate to the Giants win last night.
Probably just another copyright protected “Brand Pelline Empty Marketing Slogan”™.

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fish

30 October 2014

Posted by: JeffPelline | 30 October 2014 at 08:11 AM
Now this is one that I have to give you….the good citizens of SF voted against public financing of the ballpark…what….four times? An eminently sensible position to take!
Not really a “value” though jeffy……!

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RL Crabb

30 October 2014

Gee whiz. I can’t read all those great stories in the Bee. Almost all of them are behind a paywall. I guess a paywall is okay if it’s a paper that didn’t can you.

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JeffPelline

30 October 2014

RL Crabb,
I never saw one of your cartoons in the Sac Bee or Chronicle. BTW, thanks for the “hat tip” in your cartoon today. It’s much safer territory that criticizing Grass Valley. LOL.

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George Rebane

30 October 2014

Does anyone know why Jeff Pelline has to come over here to puff himself up when he is the “editor” of his own blog? This is especially puzzling since he claims to be the celebrated liberal journalist of the northern foothills recognized by the region’s major newspapers. Not a Bee subscriber, I wonder what kind of a picture he paints of Nevada County.
I do understand that he may be lonely, and shouting your dressed up platitudes into the empty dark returns only distant echoes. But dear readers do recognize this, since his most recent arrival he has captured the conversation here. No matter its tone or tenor, he must find such an exchange an invigorating welcome. How’s the taste in everyone’s mouth?
Russ 808am – As you know, I had the identical experience with the Bee, and still get emails inviting me to come back into the fold – for what?

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RL Crabb

30 October 2014

I just ran a series of cartoons that appeared in the Chron during the ’84 Democratic convention. Just another case of your own spotty reporting, Scoopy.

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