79 responses to “Sandbox – 6oct14”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   06 October 2014

   Oh goodie, a new sandbox for this cat to bury something in. Let’s get ready to rumble!
   http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-thousands-of-undersea-volanoes-revealed-in-new-ocean-map-20141003-story.html

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   Bill Tozer

   06 October 2014

   Speaking to Dr. Rebane’s admonishment to do your homework and with all due respect to the good Doctor, it ain’t as easy to do one’s homework as it once was. Taking from Mr. Steele’s blog, it might be time to count on fingers and toes, make those hash marks we see in stranded folk on deserted island movies or using knots tied on string. Now I can’t even do 38 minus 2 except in my head.
   http://www.vox.com/2014/4/20/5625086/the-common-core-makes-simple-math-more-complicated-heres-why

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   George Rebane

   06 October 2014

   BillT 749pm – If that is true Mr Tozer, then how are the climate alarmist going to believe that ocean temperatures are driven by the atmospheric green house effect? Now there’s another aspect of reality that Team Gore and the feds have to sweep under the rug. ‘Oh what tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive’.

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4. 

   Gregory

   06 October 2014

   Some may have missed the latest… all that heat that was said to have been hiding in the deep oceans (mainly because the warmists needed a place for it to be, and that was the only candidate) isn’t there… the deep oceans, rather than heating, got a bit cooler.
   http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4321
   To make it easy for Jeffie and the Lickspittles to understand, if the missing heat doesn’t exist anywhere, the alarmist argument fails.
   Enjoy.

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5. 

   Bill Tozer

   06 October 2014

   Well, it’s approaching that time of year again:
   http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/06/columbus-day-will-now-be-indigenous-peoples-day-in-seattle/?intcmp=latestnews
   Let me be the first to start this ball rolling a week early. Just who are the indigenous peoples, or the First Nations as they say in Canada? Certainly not the Apaches cause they only been here in what is now the US for only 400 years after migrating North. Not the Navaho cause the Hopi were before them, about 1,500 years ago. Before them it was another people. How about this for an answer: The French. Yep, could be.
   There is good evidence that the people from the area known today as France traveled the Trans Atlantic ice to North America and followed the herds south as far to around the current US-Canadian border. Blue eyed people and DNA supports this 100%. Even when the pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock, they were greeted by a “Native American” with blue eye and fair skin. Hundreds of accounts of this same Native Peoples fills explorers’ journals, some understanding English.
   Now, of course, there is the debate whether peoples from Asia crossed the Trans-Pacific ice first or whether the peoples from what became France crossed the Trans-Atlantic ice first or simultaneously. Hmmmmm.
   Next time I see my ex the Cherokee Princess I might tell her that the French were here before her peoples and my peoples. She has a bad temper as it is, but considering that she has a bit of German in her blood as well, she will probably flip her wig and put on the war paint. Germans, like most peoples, don’t care for the French. It is possible that Mr. R L Crabb and his frogleg eating ancestors are why we celebrate Indigenous Peoples Day. Go figure.

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   Bill Tozer

   07 October 2014

   Addendum to last post. Ahh, I said within myself. The blue eyed people were left behind by Eric the Red and his gang of merry plunderers, no doubt. Wrong. DNA predates the Vikings. Hmm. What about the local “savages” along the Eastern Seaboard and the tribes inland? Nope, DNA predates them too. Gives new meaning to the French and Indian Wars. Not all the blue eyed natives had fair skin. Did they breed with the Asians in a East meets West 3 week long love feast?
   Another post to be filed in the Encyclopedia of Worthless Information…. Unless it was those darn aliens messing with us again. Prehistoric crop circles and all that jazz.

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7. 

   fish

   07 October 2014

   Barry Pruett would be taken more seriously if he know how to spell: “Much has been written about Measure S already, but one thing that has been largely overlooked is the conduct of our elected officials and County employees (whose salaries are paid for by taxpayers’s) during the process.”
   What is a “taxpayers’s”? I wonder what this guy’s legal briefs look like. LOL.
   “taxpayers’s”…that would be a typo jeffy…..rumor has it that before you founded “Food Porn of the Sierra Foothills” you used to work in print journalism. I find it interesting that you are surprised by it.
   I find the occasional typo far less disturbing than a man in his late forties or early fifties who swoons over a politician liking a Facebook post….
   jeffpelline says:
   October 4, 2014 at 9:20 pm
   “San Francisco values.” BTW, I posted this on Facebook and Art Moore (who’s running against Tom McClintock) “liked” it. I guess he’s OK with “S.F. values.” Don’t tell others. LOL.
   That’s just sad.
   ….and as always LOL.

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8. 

   Russ Steele

   07 October 2014

   The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert’s devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless
   • One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent
   • It doubles risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
   • Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
   • Driving after smoking cannabis doubles risk of having a car crash
   • Study’s author said: ‘If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin’
   Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2782906/The-terrible-truth-cannabis-British-expert-s-devastating-20-year-study-finally-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.html#ixzz3FSvBBJu7

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   RL Crabb

   07 October 2014

   Mr. Tozer 10/6 11:40pm – Don’t lecture me about those damn Cherokee princesses, I got scalped by one. My definition of “indigenous people” is them who happened to be there when you arrived. Us white people get a little nervous when there’s talk of the American Holocaust, better known as the Trail of Tears. Even an old Indian fighter like Davy Crockett thought Andy Jackson was the devil. Someday they’ll kick that asshole off the twenty dollar bill.

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    fish

    07 October 2014

    The terrible truth about cannabis: Expert’s devastating 20-year study finally demolishes claims that smoking pot is harmless
    • One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent
    • It doubles risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
    • Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
    • Driving after smoking cannabis doubles risk of having a car crash
    • Study’s author said: ‘If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin’
    You could easily get away with substituting “alcohol” for cannabis in the above Russ…..society has managed to deal with those costs. It really doesn’t matter though….the “evil weed” is here to stay.

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11. 

    Barry Pruett

    07 October 2014

    Jeff Pelline wonders what my briefs look like? That is private. Only my wife gets to see my briefs.

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12. 

    Michael R. Kesti

    07 October 2014

    Russ Steele 07Oct14 06:30 AM
    The referenced article does not define “become dependent.” Does “doubles the risk” mean the a statistically insignificant rise from, for example, from 0.00001% to 0.00002? What is “heavy use”? Why is no link to the article’s referenced study provided?
    In my opinion, anybody who would claim that marijuana and heroin are similarly addictive does not qualify as expert on the topic.
    fish 07Oct14 07:08 AM
    “Tobacco” would make an even better substitution.

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13. 

    fish

    07 October 2014

    Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 07 October 2014 at 07:17 AM
    Except the three middle bullet points would have to be removed. Tobacco generally sharpens attention and mental acuity and there is no link of which I am aware to schizophrenia……it’s pretty well established that schizophrenics benefit from tobacco consumption.

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14. 

    fish

    07 October 2014

    Noted social scientist jeffy Pelline pHD has puzzled out that you….”THE HARD RIGHT™”….that your intransigence regarding common core really is little more than crypto-racism.
    He’ll be watching you!!!!! Always watching………
    Editor’s note: This is an excerpt from the CABPRO newsletter for September. It is an article titled the “New, New Math.” It offers real insight into what CABPRO and the local extreme right is really about: not protecting private property rights, not being a champion for education; just fighting back against the slow death of “White America.” It’s a tough pill for them to swallow. The CABPRO’ers ought to be teaching their grandkids to embrace non-white culture. Heck, even pot is going to be legal in California one day.
    Fortunately though “Fat Shaming” will still be perfectly acceptable in “NEW AMERICA™”!

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15. 

    Bill Tozer

    07 October 2014

    Mr. Crabb. No lectures here you friggin frog leg eating Frenchie. 🙂
    So, you got scalped by a Cherokee Princess, eh? Well, I have had bigger scratches on my eyeballs than a little head wound. Try this one on for size. The little Cherokee Princess with German Shoulders and I got into a heated argument. Told her I am leaving and headed to the door to go get good and drunk. She said “you aren’t going anywhere” and pulled out a 22 and shot me in the leg! Just a flesh wound I confess that hit the outer skin of my calf. Undeterred by that little incident, I headed out the door and hopped in my vehicle. Just as I was ready to pull out, I see in the darkness a baseball ball crashing through the window with the little woman on the other end of the bat. Yep, I did not go anywhere than quiet evening. She threw her arms around me and told me she loved me. She somehow always got the last word in. Yep, all is fair in love and war.
    I miss that little lady on occasion. I do find high spirited women strangely attractive and am drawn to them. You can put 12 women against the wall and I will pick the crazy one every time. At least the Cherokee Princess was not as crazy or wild as the last two. Best to stay single nowadays since I have a broken picker. Don’t need to get scalped. Might make me late for work.
    PS: Mr Crabb, have I told you lately that I love you. 🙂

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16. 

    RL Crabb

    07 October 2014

    I’m blushing, Mr. T. Sounds like you need to check into a monastery to keep out of trouble. Their food is full of salt peter.

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17. 

    George Rebane

    07 October 2014

    Regular readers will be happy to know that RR got its moment in the sun about our coverage and voluminous debate over the Measure S initiative. We are prominently featured in the 7oct14 Union’s lead article on page one (here). For readers new to RR wishing to read the entire series on Measure S, I have collected the post titles below, the links to these articles may be found in the right column of this page under ‘Recent Posts’.

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18. 

    George Rebane

    07 October 2014

    Former SecDef and Dir CIA Leon Panetta is the latest prominent personage to recognize that we are engaged in a war between civilizations that he likens to the 30-Year War and expects the current one to continue at least that much longer. (See also his new book Worthy Fights After my study of history and looking at the events since the mid-80s, I concluded some years back that Islam was indeed in a civilizational war with the west, and I made my case to RR readers at the time.
    The pushback from the progressives was immediate and has been constant since then. However, as of late they have called in the Cricket Corps to deliver their counter arguments as the evidence for such a war has become overwhelming.
    Even the severely intellectually disabled today can appreciate that Islam, starting with its more fundamental sects, cannot survive in a world in which the trappings and ideas of western civilization are dominant. And one does not have to dig down to the Wahabi levels of fundamentalism to see how primitive and out of step with the times that religion is. The major sects of Sunni and Shia give daily testimony to ideologies and thinking that has nothing to offer the world but a global dystopia.
    Starting with the Obama administration, I do not expect the progressives to grok this phenomenon any time soon.

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19. 

    Bill Tozer

    07 October 2014

    Uhuh, Dr Rebane. This good news will set in motion a flurry of posts from Bubbabubba. The Union has gone hard right! and all that stuff from the soft flaccid one. He’ll hath no fury like a magina scorned.

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20. 

    fish

    07 October 2014

    Posted by: Bill Tozer | 07 October 2014 at 10:41 AM
    Yeah…it’s been a ghost town over there which is why he appears to be “spicing” things up a bit recently.
    PS: You guys are all obviously racist! 😉

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21. 

    A. Patriot

    08 October 2014

    Another perspective for the sanbox http://marijuana.com/news/2014/10/carl-sagans-long-lost-deep-thoughts-on-the-war-on-drugs/

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22. 

    Scott Obermuller

    08 October 2014

    From the good Dr. Crabb – “My definition of “indigenous people” is them who happened to be there when you arrived.”
    Uh – that would be Sutter Memorial, 1951. Kollyfornya was mostly all Euro white folks then as I remember.
    Notice how grievance groups always trace year zero back to when the white folks arrived? Slavery, torture, genocide, infanticide and (ahem) wars on wimins could already be in full swing, but as soon as the white guys show up – IT’S ALL THEIR FAULT!
    And why do the lefty types love to tell us about how evil the feds are in regards to their dishonesty and underhandedness with some folks but when the conservatives point out the same activities now, we are called all sorts of bad names?

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23. 

    George Rebane

    08 October 2014

    I call your kind attention to the 8oct14 update to ‘Measure S – The Numbers Please’
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/10/measure-s-the-numbers-please.html

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24. 

    RL Crabb

    08 October 2014

    Herr Obermuller 6:14pm – I assume you are aware of the history surrounding Jackson’s betrayal of the Indians. While it may be true that he was only doing what the majority of Americans wanted, it doesn’t forgive the atrocity. I suppose the Germans used the same justification in the 30’s.

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25. 

    Bill Tozer

    09 October 2014

    It is important to understand that everyone was an opinion, a point of view, and an agenda.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/serial-killer-makes-impassioned-case-for-protectin,37099/

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26. 

    fish

    09 October 2014

    DANGER: Fat Man Whining again!
    Look at the people who are lining up to support Meckler and the Union’s decision to publish this kind of letter: tea-party activist Barry Pruett (“those pesky ‘San Francisco values’ do not fly in this conservative county”) who lost his race for clerk-recorder in every precinct; George Rebane (“I wasn’t aware the letter from Meckler was toxic or divisive”), the one-time planning commissioner for Drew Bedwell; or CABPRO founder Todd Juvinall or “fish,” an anonymous commentator on the hard right blogs who doesn’t even live in our community but writes shrill political letters to The Chronicle defending gun ownership rights.
    Shrill?? Moi?
    The psychological projection…….IT BURNS! I rather enjoyed participating in a mock fest of a another whiny putz displaying his “SF values”.
    The sentence that compelled me to respond: The guns don’t teach children, provide clean drinking water or help a senior across the street.
    The original article:
    http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Glock-handguns-appeal-unabated-after-Tucson-2478397.php
    My letter in response:
    http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2011/tle603-20110116-02.html
    Don’t you think you’re really better suited to doing puff pieces about your love of food and Avril Lavigne?

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27. 

    fish

    09 October 2014

    “fish,” an anonymous commentator on the hard right blogs who doesn’t even live in our community but writes shrill political letters to The Chronicle defending gun ownership rights.
    Also Mr. Logic Challenged…..why would me not living in your “community™” have any impact on me writing a letter to the Chronicle (which much like you didn’t publish it……can’t be be scaring the “SF values” with thoughtcrime now can we).
    Now how about some more Avril Lavigne chat……?

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28. 

    Scott Obermuller

    09 October 2014

    Bob – You make my point. All my life I was only told about the atrocities committed by Euro-whites. I’m not trying to excuse any atrocity. Folks all over the world do really bad things to each other. But that’s not the narrative the left wants us to hear. It’s a human problem, not just certain groups. Why do only Euro-whites have to cough up ‘reparations’? I’m part Slavic – that’s where the word ‘slave’ came from. Where are my peoples’ reparations? The only victim group I care about are the folks seeking freedom from oppressive govts. National origin, skin color, income and religion have nothing to do with it.

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29. 

    George Boardman

    09 October 2014

    How can you call Stan Meckler divisive when he’s willing to reach across the political chasm and break bread with Ms. Reinette? (To her credit, she broke bread with him a Lumberjacks, a place she probably wouldn’t be caught dead in otherwise.)
    Isn’t this the kind of kumbaya moment Mr. Bubba claims conservatives are always trying to thwart? It just goes to show you can’t please some of the people any of the time.
    As for Bruce Levy, I’ll bet he got marked down in elementary school because he didn’t play well with others.

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30. 

    George Rebane

    09 October 2014

    Re FUE’s latest use of my name in vain and continuing attack on The Union viz Stan Meckler’s letter opposing Jim Firth. Our designated reader of the FUE’s blog emailed me his latest screed that is so full of … of …, oh hell, you know what it’s full of. I don’t want to waste ink on the details. Nothing has changed since I posted these some years back –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2010/06/re-jeff-pelline-for-the-record.html
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2012/09/journalist-fue-sleazebag.html
    But I do want to dampen one bit of happy dancing that is a constant theme in his ‘reportage’, that the retirees demographic is shrinking. There is no evidence to support that the percentage of our older citizens, now around 20% of the county’s population, is dropping. He fails to recognize that, yes, older people die in greater numbers, but new cadres of retirees also continue moving into these foothills to enjoy our lifestyle in their sunset years. And they do bring with them the wisdom and experience that comes with years (especially years that still antedate the cold grip of The Great Society on our country).

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31. 

    Russ Steele

    09 October 2014

    Is the Sheriff Royal giving up his MRAP? This is a resolution on the BOS Calendar for next week, or is this yet again another armored vehicle.
    Resolution declaring Vehicle No. 56101, the 1990 Ford F700 Armored Vehicle, as surplus, and authorizing the donation of surplus property to the City of Long Beach. (Purchasing) (4/5 affirmative vote required.)

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32. 

    George Rebane

    09 October 2014

    RussS 1249pm – No, this is not regarding the ‘new’ MRAP. The sheriff has had a lesser model of an urban assault vehicle for some years that was basically a version of a Brink’s armored car. This is the one I was told that they are getting rid of now that the MRAP is here.

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33. 

    fish

    09 October 2014

    George,
    Be honest. Without allowing “sackheads” to comment on your blog, you would hardly have any commentary. Why do so few people in the community want to post on your blog to stick up for you? It’s so sad. Much sadder than the “sad tale of Anna Haynes” that you wrote about earlier.
    Posted by: Jeff Pellne | 14 June 2010 at 09:40 PM
    Yeah George…….and you can’t go to jeffys party….and there’s going to be a pony…..and cake……and a clown (other than the guest of honor)…cause nobody likes you! Yeah! That’ll show ya!
    jeez jeffy……you’re a middle aged, 400 lb. man with a snotty 8 year old boy pulling all the levers inside your noggin!

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34. 

    Gregory

    09 October 2014

    Wow, an all time record!
    Checking just now, a full 9 of the last 10 comments at Pelline’s blog are by Jeffie himself and the family sock puppet, “Annie Fox”.
    A slow day for Scoopy.

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35. 

    Bill Tozer

    09 October 2014

    “Wow, an all time record!
    Checking just now, a full 9 of the last 10 comments at Pelline’s blog are by Jeffie himself and the family sock puppet, “Annie Fox”.
    A slow day for “Scoopy”.
    Oh, BubbaBubba is just tired of getting sloppy seconds and thirds and fourths. The Pillsbury Doughboy keeps trying to be relevant. Gotta give The Dynamic Duo an A for effort yet he has earned his spot at the back of the line eating our dust. He needs a bigger Pooper Scooper. Pathetic.
    Annie Fox? I once knew a stripper known as Annie Fox. Can’t be the same one. Heck, what are the chances? Fine dancer and great personality. Last I heard she was hitting the circuit under the names Barbie Doll and Annie Ample, but I digress.

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36. 

    Scott Obermuller

    09 October 2014

    As a teen, I always wondered how adults would allow folks like Hitler and Stalin come to power. Now – I sadly know.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/09/famous-actress-on-obama-it-would-be-wonderful-if-we-were-able-to-give-this-man-all-of-the-power-that-he-needs/
    Can’t humans learn anything?

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37. 

    Patricia Smith

    10 October 2014

    The posts by Russ Steele and Fish outlining the horrors of marijuana reek of Reefer Madness. The study they refer to is a sham and every point has been disproven in thousands of medical studies. (Please see our website for a partial list of over 4,000 studies, http://www.asa-nc.com)
    The claim that marijuana leads to schizophrenia was proven to be false in the 90’s. To equate marijuana “addiction” with heroin or meth is just irresponsible and has lead many young people to harder drugs because once they see that marijuana is not the killer drug they were lead to believe, they stop believing the claims made against heroin or meth. A VERY dangerous proposition.
    The Dept of Transportation has stated that traffic fatalities in states that have legalized medical marijuana are 8% lower than states that have not legalized marijuana. So much for “doubling the risk of an accident.” It’s OK if you don’t like marijuana (medical or otherwise), but it’s not OK to make up “facts” to support your beliefs.

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38. 

    Russ Steele

    10 October 2014

    Dear Patricia,
    I gave readers a link to the 20 year study report. I did not make any claims one way of the other, just provided the highlights to 20 years of research. How long were the no harm studies? Perhaps you can produce some specific links to refute the claims in the study. I do not have time to read all 4,000 studies looking for evidence. One link for each claim will do the job. Looking forward to reading your rely.

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39. 

    fish

    10 October 2014

    The posts by Russ Steele and Fish outlining the horrors of marijuana reek of Reefer Madness.
    Maybe you need to put the bong down and come down for awhile! I’m the completely legalize, no regulation, grow as much as you want in your backyard guy!

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40. 

    Todd Juvinall

    10 October 2014

    I think the “reefer madness” is an actual malady of those that smoke the weed. I know too many people who have smoked it incessantly since their youth and still have no pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. The nation is not better off with either all those “potheads” or drunks. The ultimate freedom to abuse your own body and mind under our Constitution has not made America a better place. But it has allowed the self abuse of oneself which the YES folks want to codify in law. The nation will be stoned and happy as those that wish us harm and demise look on. What a great country!

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41. 

    Paul Emery

    10 October 2014

    Russ
    Since you are obviously opposed to the legalization of MJ let me ask you this simple question. How should the law be enforced and how much money are you willing to spend for enforcement and incarceration? Should States have the right to determine their own destiny in this matter?

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42. 

    fish

    10 October 2014

    Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 09 October 2014 at 10:51 PM
    Yes Scott….Ms. Paltrow has added another entry to the collective lexicon….”Mona Lisa Smile”…..”jeffy Pelline Ass”….Gwyneth Paltrow Stupid!

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43. 

    Russ Steele

    10 October 2014

    Paul Emory @ 10:37
    I am not against legal MJ, I am against a pot farm next door to the west of my house, just like I would be opposed to a pig farm or chicken farm next door. I do not want to smell pig or chicken shit, or pot on the easterly breezes. I say legalize it, tax it and grow it on approve agricultural land. Get the illegal grows out of the forest, get the illegal grows out of private neighborhoods and let professional farmers grow the stuff just like tobacco and sell it to all the pot heads that can afford it, Restrict welfare so it cannot be used to buy pot, just like ti cannot be used to buy booze and cigarettes now.
    That said, I support the opposition to Measure S it a poorly written proposition that has more loop holes in it than our county roads have pot holes. No pun intended.

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44. 

    Patricia Smith

    10 October 2014

    Since Russ doesn’t have the time to read 4,000 studies about MJ (who does), I am providing him one link to each of the points he posted about the dangers of medical marijuana: Have fun reading!
    • One in six teenagers who regularly smoke the drug become dependent
    http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html
    • It doubles risk of developing psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia
    http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html
    • Heavy use in adolescence appears to impair intellectual development
    http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/03/your-government-lying-you-again-about-marijuana
    • Driving after smoking cannabis doubles risk of having a car crash
    http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/why-medical-marijuana-laws-reduce-traffic-deaths/
    • Study’s author said: ‘If cannabis is not addictive then neither is heroin’
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/09/no-marijuana-is-not-actually-as-addictive-as-heroin/

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45. 

    Bill the skunk smeller Tozer

    12 October 2014

    Golly Snerd, I come to the Sandbox to get away from all this Toke of the Town crap. Shit, Pot Talk on every post. Nowhere to hide. We have hundreds of comments on Measure S and dope all over this fine blog. The whole blog now reeks of skunk, just like shopping at the Briar Patch or the Fur Trader. Get a life. There is more to living than getting high and demanding access instead of ownership.
    Well, if you can’t beat em, then join em.
    http://www.ncscooper.com/local-farmerband-leader-chooses-fedex-for-all-his-shipping-needs/#.VDpuvmK9KK0

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46. 

    Al

    12 October 2014

    Throw this into the Pot of Alternative Analysis:
    https://news.yahoo.com/grow-cheap-marijuana-italy-calls-army-095026545–finance.html

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47. 

    George Rebane

    12 October 2014

    AI 736am – Happy soldiers indeed! While the Italian military has not amounted to much for at least the last 100 years, I’m not in favor of bestowing an equivalent favor on my alma mater, the US Army 😉 But large commercial grows right here in the western ag areas of NC should be looked at as a low cost alternative to everyone having to ‘grow their own medicine’ (love that phrase).

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48. 

    Bill Tozer

    12 October 2014

    This is my last comment on cultivation. This topic got me doing my own research and talking to trustworthy sources working in the industry. I have been out of the game for 30 years and what I found/saw shocked even me. Having a 64 plant garden I though of as a normal small garden, but that does not even come close. The traffickers here are some big boys rivaling the Mexican cartels. ALL are corporations that own hundreds if not thousands of acres. Even the East Coast mafia has set up shop with very well run clean smooth operations out in open. All I choose to say is with my new perspective, this whole mom and pop and teenager cultivation ordinances seems rather petty and silly. Cottage industries? Surely you jest. It ain’t about sick patients or the guy next door. Paul E was closest when he said it was about delivery (systems), Prop 215 was a wee bit too late to the party and Measure S can’t hold a candle to the corporations. Cottage industries? What a joke. Like comparing TeeBall to the majors. Had no clue. Monsanto coming to a farm near you is no longer just a tongue in cheek retort.

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49. 

    RL Crabb

    12 October 2014

    To Brad Croul – I see you’ve been schooled by Scoopy in How To Do You Job as a Planning Commissioner and outed as a pawn of the Good Ol’ Boys. After you’ve passed the initiation ceremony by spending the night at the bottom of the Idaho-Maryland Mine, the Clampers will be by to tattoo Ronald Reagan’s face on your chest with a rusty square nail. Welcome to the club!

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50. 

    Todd Juvinall

    12 October 2014

    Brad Croul, so you are a “good ol’ boy eh? Only Pelline could say that and believe it I guess. Welcome to our group of men and women who have made this county work! LOL!
    Maybe you will get a cartoon as I did from Mr. Crabb. He made me the devil! Too funny!

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