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Sandbox – 13aug14

13 August 2014

[Refreshed by popular demand and the insipient stall speed of the last sandbox. Everybody in!]

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61 responses to “Sandbox – 13aug14”

fish

13 August 2014

Gads but I can be a jerk!
It’s incipient.
…and because a refreshing comedic palate cleanser is always a good thing.
OT – jeffy making the story about himself yet again.
If it wasn’t for my blog, these guys wouldn’t have anything to write about.
Interesting thought jeffy…but as usual….wrong. We chat about the issues routinely….when a comedic palate cleanser is required that’s when we refer to you or your blog.
Props jeffy…you’re the 7-11 of comedy relief…..always open!
…and in matters gun control related.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/13/michael-bloombergs-anti-gun-money-smoke-pro-gun-sh/

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Walt

13 August 2014

More LIBS need to push that gun control. To this day they just can’t comprehend the reason they keep losing that argument. Seems they still need education into that matter. So keep stumping on the evil gun. Write your LIBS running for office to keep the heat on gun control. It worked SO well in Colorado.(and in WISS) Ask Nanny Bloomersberg.
Sooner or later Ca. will wake up too,, to the gun grabbers. Plenty of Dems. like their weapons as much as Conservatives.

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Todd Juvinall

13 August 2014

Fish, I don’t seem to recall the “bigboy” getting in the conversations regarding anything other than what he writes about. I would say if in fact he believes he is the center of the universe regarding these blogs, then we now see why he is so isolated from the community. I bet he is in his undoes in front of the computer all day. Too funny!

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fish

13 August 2014

He claims to have an active social life…..and I’ll take him at his word. He makes me glad I don’t live in Nevada City.

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fish

14 August 2014

I can’t help but notice the hundreds of posts over at the blogs of our esteemed friends protesting the militarized police in suburban St, Louis [Ferguson] using excessive force to control public roads and disperse protesters and journalists who are exercising their constitutional right of free assembly and speech.
Oh, I’m sorry, I must have be dreaming, because there are no such posts on our local heroes blogs. The people protesting the death by multiple gunshot wound of a unarmed man attempting to surrender to police don’t really look quite like our local heroes who stood up for Cliven Bundy.
3 days and no protest for the rights of residents of Ferguson from our ‘conservatarian’ buddies.
Well Stevie we all pick our fights. I was and remain more concerned about the massive federal over-reaction regarding Mr. Bundy than I am about the “Inner City Biathlon” going on in Ferguson.
That said I did acknowledge that I felt the citizens of Ferguson have a legitimate grievance regarding the ham fisted policing techniques employed by the local gendarmes.
Please refer to:
Another episode of urban Olympics: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-ferguson-protesters-attack-police-cars-loot-quicktrip-following-teen-killing-video/
(although I confess to being sympathetic to the spark of this one somewhat)
and at the risk of descending into soft headed Ben Emery territory and going link crazy….the latest offering from Fred Reed. It is particularly germane to this subject.
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Unstable.shtml
Posted by: fish | 11 August 2014 at 01:42 PM
Really though isn’t concern trolling over inner city issues more of a Steve Frisch/Ben Emery SWPL Rocky Mountain High kinda thing? Have you roused Ben from his sick bed to staple protest slogans on sticks yet?
(Isn’t it amazing too that in a state where there are very permissive gun laws and according to records lots of guns in the community none of the protesters appear to be aiming long rifles at the police and challenging them to open fire. That is because they know they would be gunned down in a heartbeat.)
…and here we come to the real crux of the matter. That Stevie is in favor of the citizenry retaining the appearance of all the civil rights except the right to keep and bear arms. I’ve only seen you twist off explosively twice that I recall. Once when lovable old psychopath Michael incorrectly related that I wouldn’t reveal my real name because he thought I was protecting a pension…and the other time regarding some kid wanting to march in a local parade carrying a rifle.
You will know them by what they hate.
In their silence our friends speak volumes.
No it doesn’t. Poor rhetorical effort.
(By the way I would have the same advise for the residents of Ferguson that I did for Nevadans; there will be an criminal investigation, a civil rights investigation, and a trial. The best thing to do now is go home and speak out peacefully to ensure justice is done.)
A little “man of the system” campaign speechifying to close and then it’s back to selling indulgences to local businesses and grant proposal writing.
You’ve truly done the lords work today Steve.
Toodles!

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George Rebane

14 August 2014

Correspondents have told me that the looney Left has predictably come unglued about the Ferguson shooting, and doubly so because the Right has not imitated their apoplexy (see also Mr fish’s 807am). My own silence on the matter has more to do about bandwidth, and the fact that we don’t yet know what led up to the shooting. We do know that the crime rate in black neighborhoods is much higher, and therefore are also the number of police confrontations.
And we also know that police have gotten more trigger happy since the national militarization of local police. This disturbing phenomenon has been much reported and discussed on RR, and yet the local Left has been predictably silent over the last several years. They seem to muster outrage only when there is an opportunity to excoriate white on black violence, but of the thousands of blacks killed annually by blacks to them is just a natural phenomenon, or the cost of promoting progressivism. After all it is the Left that has destroyed the black family and middle class, erecting in its place what even black commentators call ‘The Plantation’. So as long as the killings occur on the plantation and their residents vote reliably Democratic, all is well.
My own feeling is that police should bear the same strictures, with some obvious modifications, on using lethal force against suspects that are imposed on civilian CCW permit holders.

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fish

14 August 2014

Oooh…..Stevie, Ben, jeffy…..don’t know if you are video gamers but if you are……
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/08/13/Shoot-Racist-Tea-Partiers-in-Battlefield-Hardline

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Walt

14 August 2014

So instead of staging their “protests” around the instigator ( the PD)
Every shop in town that had zip to do with said shooting, is the targets of choice.( except the ones that had armed shop keepers) Makes perfect sense
pillaging and looting the innocent is the way to make the cops pay. ( LIB logic?)
Now “O” sticks his nose into things once again. He never learns.
We had the “beer summit”. Then the ” If I had a Son” ( that one has picked up a whole new head of steam) What next? A “crack summit”?
More excuses for letting pavement apes of all colors run wild in the streets to do harm to others, that had jack squat to do with the shooting.
The cops “F”ed up deluxe, in hiding the details. Now arresting reporters, and elected officials? Really?? Gassing a film crew and trying to pilfer their equipment is criminal.( good thing another film crew caught it all on tape…OOppsss) The militant cops have really overstepped their bounds.

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Walt

14 August 2014

Here we go again with the Ca. LIB double standard.
We go shafted by the ECO gang when it came to opening a mine or two.
” The environmental horror and toxic this and that!”.
All with private money no less.
That all just went out the window. Their flagship “wonder car” ( which only the guilt trip rich can afford) Tesla now has plans to build their toxic wonderland
in the state. Tax breaks, exemptions from enviro laws, etc.
A little more info is here.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/14/tesla-could-get-environmental-protection-rules-waiver-in-california/
Big buck LIBS sure rake in the corp. welfare, and skirt the rules the rest have to live by.
Another reason for the State of Jefferson.

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Brad Croul

15 August 2014

Looks like the lamestream press has finally caught up with RR. The muscled up police forces with their military surplus, bullet proof assault vehicles are all over the news today as a result of the heavy handed response by the Ferguson police.

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Russ Steele

15 August 2014

Lawmakers are drafting a bill to stem flow of tanks and M16s to local police.
A Democratic congressman from Georgia is drafting legislation to limit a Pentagon program that provides surplus military equipment to local law enforcement.
Rep. Hank Johnson is pushing the legislation amid the situation in Ferguson, Mo., where an armed police presence has taken to the streets after mass protests over a police shooting.
“Our main streets should be a place for business, families, and relaxation, not tanks and M16s,” Johnson wrote in a Dear Colleague letter sent Thursday to other members of Congress.
“As the tragedy in Missouri unfolds, one thing is clear. Our local police are becoming militarized,” Johnson’s office said in a statement.
Johnson said he will introduce the bill in September, when Congress returns from a five-week recess. He has been worked on the legislation for months, but his office said the current situation highlights the need for the bill.
Congress is under pressure from left and right to ‘demilitarize’ police. As one pundit noted that we not only need to get rid of the Defense Department’s surplus weapons program, but also the HHS and Justice Department grants that let police buy military type weapons. A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves.
I noted that that Nevada County had all of it’s tools and special units on display at the County Fair, but the newly arrived armored truck was missing from the display. Wonder why? It got a lot of negative feed back on the blogs.

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fish

15 August 2014

Posted by: Russ Steele | 15 August 2014 at 07:55 AM
It will be interesting to see if this legislation requires local law enforcement to return that which they’re already been gifted.

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Todd Juvinall

15 August 2014

I read a response from a self proclaimed “legal” Mexican immigrant in this mornings Union. She was responding to my article on Illegal Immigrants should do the right thing. She said she took a poll of her family members and there were eight democrats and one Republican. We all know that is the goal for the democrats. Too funny. She thinks we don’t know.

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George Rebane

15 August 2014

Several readers have asked when my KVMR commentary airs. It is broadcast on alternate Fridays (tonight’s the night!) at about 6:25PM at the end of their evening news hour. Past editions are archived and accessible through the station’s website.

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Gregory

15 August 2014

“A simple rule would be to provide that police can have only weapons that a civilian could lawfully possess, since they’re civilians themselves.”
California police like their true assault rifles (a WWII era development) which have NEVER been available to civilians in the state which has banned civilian machine gun possession since the 1930’s. It would be a neat trick to get that reversed.

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Brad

15 August 2014

Let us all have machine guns, and the cops can keep theirs 🙂

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Gregory

15 August 2014

“”and no protest for the rights of residents of Ferguson from our ‘conservatarian’ buddies””
Frisch as quoted by fish 8:07AM 14 Aug
How about a link to that? A cursory look-see revealed nothing.
If it is an accurate quote, perhaps Frisch can point out where the right to riot can be found in the Bill of Rights?

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TheMikeyMcD

15 August 2014

Kudos to Terry Lamphier and Ed Scofield for siding with local property rights. I agree with Sieving’s comments and other businesses trying to make an honest living despite governments efforts to keep them from doing so.
http://www.theunion.com/news/12582725-113/events-ordinance-county-nevada

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Todd Juvinall

15 August 2014

On another front, I am shocked that there has been NO recantation by Steve Frisch on the Ferguson brouhaha. It appears the man killed was stopped right after he committed a strong arm robbery of a convenience store and slapped the proprietor around. His pal who was telling the world about him after his death was his perp pal in the robbery. Come on Frisch, tell us all how wrong you were to judge others before all the facts came out. Oh, that’s right, it doesn’t matter what the facts are for a liberal does it? Just that your view fits a pre-supposed template of American racism. Too funny. But crickets will prevail.

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Don Bessee

15 August 2014

MikeyMcD, You clearly have not listened to Supervisor Lamphier’s comments and reasoning at the BOS Tuesday. He lambasted the Nevada City Chambers statements, writings and ads, especially the Nevada City Advocates article. He voted No because the wedding industry was getting the mini-permit with 4 events and that was at odds with no commercial activity in residential areas. Its funny that it was the elitists in Nevada City who were spewing propaganda to scare the uninformed voters since they do not allow these purely commercial events on residential property in NC. They want to tell us in the unincorporated residential areas that we have to give up our zoning protections to line their pockets with illegal commercial activity. Watch the BOS from approximately the 3:30pm point on to get a dose of the truth.

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Gregory

15 August 2014

“Let us all have machine guns, and the cops can keep theirs :)”
Brad, even in the states that allow machine gun possession by civilians (and that’s a majority of them) one needs to pass the equivalent of a Secret security clearance background check, and that ain’t something “all” can pass. I did once, and should be able to do so again, not having any brushes with the law before or after. However, if I moved to a state that allowed National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms and wanted to buy a real M-16 like the Grass Valley PD has, I’d have to buy one that was already registered by 1986 at a market price north of $10k, rather than new from the factory at a price closer to $700 like what the GVPD might pay. There is no inherent collector value in that garden variety M-16 that’s a quarter century old or older… the only reason it sells for more than a new rifle is the federal cap on the numbers of these firearms.
I wonder how many true NFA assault rifles have been delivered to “civilian” law enforcement since 1986?

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Walt

15 August 2014

Yup, If your record is clean and been a good boy, why not have the right to own equal firepower? Cops have no real reason to possess “military” grade full auto weaponry. HELL! If a home owner plugs an intruder with more than 5 or so bullets, the guy is charged with being trigger happy.( yet cops can turn you into a sieve, and say “we are trained to do that”.)
CA. cops have other perks as well. They can buy those high capacity magazines for their own private use.(????) They can buy handguns that civilians can’t.(????) Anyone else see a problem with that?
Down on the boarder is a whole different story. Hand grenades are now being used by the cartels and drug runners. M1A2 50 cal. fire is now coming from the Mexico side just about daily. How we haven’t heard about another boarder agent being shot up is a wonder.

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Gregory

15 August 2014

Walt, I don’t think boarders are the problem as they don’t even have enough money for their own apartment, let alone a machine gun.

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TheMikeyMcD

15 August 2014

So, Terry voted correctly, for the wrong reasons….. I’ll take it!
Don, thanks for sharing. I figured that since this was the 1st time I recalled Terry siding with my stance something was amiss. Thanks again.

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Walt

15 August 2014

Gregory..Then they can pay the rent with ammo. Barter always works.
.308 is the new “dollar”.

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Walt

15 August 2014

“O”‘s “mission accomplished ” has worked out SO well.. Scratch one village
that took his advice and went home after the “drive by” ( or fly by)not war. ISIS showed up and laid waste to the place.
It’s said it took seven minutes from “O” spiking the football for the cameras, to showing up on the 1ST tee.

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Walt

15 August 2014

Now to mark my territory in another corner of this sandbox,
Read the Resume’ of Firth in the paper today? I’m sure he didn’t care for the full discloser one bit.
I sure enjoyed the title of the letter. ( posed as a question?) ” Who is Jim Firth?”
Answer: The polar opposite of ” John Galt “.

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Don Bessee

15 August 2014

The Navy has reversed its decision to remove Bibles from their transient facilities ( Read Navy & Marine Hotels, Motels and Holliday inns) because of the retired and active warriors demands. They are no cost to the taxpayers, the good folks at the Gideon’s will continue to provide them. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

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fish

16 August 2014

And now…..an excerpt from “contemplative jeffy”:
…..This sign of collaboration ought to be written up in The Union — but I didn’t see it. It is a tangible sign of bridge building.
The nonpartisan collaboration that led Gov. Brown to sign a $1.3 million bill to repair the Bridgeport Bridge in the final state budget this summer also ought to be celebrated. It involved our Supervisors, Council members, SYRCL and others. “The budget reflects the governor’s concern that, whether it’s the parks or highway system, we need to take care of what we have because there’s clearly a backlog in maintenance,” a spokesman for the governor told the Sacramento Bee.
But this welcome deal has been the exception, not the rule. I’m hoping we can learn from it and begin to see the benefit of working with the rest of the state rather than thumbing our nose at it.
Sigh…… so wise……..so thoughtful……so jeffy…..

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Russ Steele

16 August 2014

fish@06:37AM
Yep, we should embraces all those flat land legislators who have no respect for us of our way of life in the foothills. They create one fits all regulations that are not applicable to life in the foothills. They promote the bad science that created AB-32 bringing us higher energy bills and are about to destroy our tourism business with much higher fuel prices. They pass laws and sustainability regulations that are nothing more than the slow implementation of UN Agenda 21. Yep, we should embrace these idiots, but with a crushing bear hug and then bury the corpse.

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fish

16 August 2014

Posted by: Russ Steele | 16 August 2014 at 08:33 AM
With a wave of his flabby hand the simple hill people are directed to pay homage to Equestrian Procurator Brown by local scribe Maximus.
Hey….if Jerry is so concerned about maintaining infrastructure maybe he’ll scrap his vanity choo choo project and direct the money to existing state responsibilities!

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Walt

16 August 2014

Note to Russ. Iceland may be ready to throw another monkey wrench in the AGW works. The “Champaign bottle” is getting a good shaking, and the experts say magma IS moving.
Then again, it could be nothing. Time will tell.

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Russ Steele

16 August 2014

Walt here is an update: Bárðarbunga volcano becoming seismically active, code yellow:
A large sub-glacial volcano in Iceland – Bárðarbunga – has been having a huge earthquake swarm for the last 24 hours. The IMO have just raised the eruption alert level on it.
Detail here: http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes
WUWT has more here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/16/earthquake-swarm-in-iceland-raises-threat-level-on-bardarbunga-volcano/#more-114535
Aviation map here: http://en.vedur.is/weather/aviation/volcanic-hazards/

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Bill Tozer

16 August 2014

Concerning the militarization of the police in Fergensen and Anytown, USA (full disclosure; I have not read a single article on the subject….yet….just picked up bits and pieces on the radio):
Dr. Rebane warned us. I have come aboard finally. For Dr. “keep that finger up” Rebane, it was the massive presence of cops everywhere with military hardware and attire after the Boston Marathon Crock Pot explosions. For me, it is awaking to this National arming of our civilian police forces from sea to shining sea. Troubling to say the least.
I argue this is a dangerous trend. A soldier’s mission and training is to destroy the enemy and bust up everything in sight. Annihilate the enemy, period. A peace officer’s job is to keep the peace and protect the public’s safety and constitutional rights. Police officers seldom if ever come across land mines strewn in their path nor RPGs directed at them, so why are they driving Hellcats with hardened steel undercarriages? Why the military fatigues? I would argue vehemently that having local police officers donning military combat camos in and of itself changes the mind set of our peace officers. Just seeing cops in military assault garb changes the public’s perception from local police doing crowd control to a military assault on the troublemakers. In a perverse way, it is nationalizing our local law enforcement.
Sure, the Defense Department says why scarp all this good hardware when they can give weapons of the battlefield and Hellcats and hardware of war and assault garb to local police agencies. Yes, we don’t want our peace officers outgunned by the bad guys, but weapons used for guerrilla warfare should not be used for crowd control. I was never opposed to the LAPD (whose motto on every cop car reads “To Protect and Serve”)….never opposed to their battering ram to bust down doors of crack houses, but this new obscene trend is scary. It’s too Hollywood and goodbye bringing the bad guy in for a dispensation of Justice in a court of law. The military does body counts. Local law enforcement protects, keeps the peace and hopefully still brings in the bad guys alive.
That’s my thoughts and I am sticking to it, sticking to my guns if you prefer.

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fish

17 August 2014

Brad Croul says:
August 17, 2014 at 8:56 am
In other news, business, agriculture and environmental groups are supporting the water bond that will appear on the November ballot. Some want to find solutions, others want to drop out and start a new state.
<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/14/CA-Government-Passes-New-Water-Bill“>http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/14/CA-Government-Passes-New-Water-Bill
The two needn’t be mutually exclusive Brad.
I happen to agree that improving California water infrastructure is something that should be addressed….for years the California left/Enviropurists (Groups with whom I assume you identify) fought these improvements tooth and nail. So please spare me your lecture about “finding solutions”.

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fish

17 August 2014

Roof Koreans!
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/sks/4614862334.html

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George Rebane

17 August 2014

Re fish 1004am – Yes, during the LA riots Korean shopkeepers in black areas successfully defended their stores and property with firearms as shown in the link. When the riots ended, this gave black families a place to shop and get services in their community. The undefended outlets were looted and burned by the resident idiots. Big stores like Safeway shut their doors forcing locals to drive miles to a modern supermarket.
But what astounded us this morning at breakfast was the lamestream’s coverage of Ferguson abetted by Missouri’s governor. Both reporters and the governor kept blithely referring to the spawning incident as Ferguson’s ‘police shooting an unarmed 18-year-old’, and then the local congressman coming on and referring to the incident as “the murder” of the teenager. All of these characterizations went unchallenged, and all invite further rioting when again the sun goes down.
No one was smart enough to point out the remainder of what the public already knows – that the shooting victim was a suspected criminal who had just robbed a nearby convenience store (as caught on security video) just before the police arrived. There were most certainly some blatantly extenuating circumstances surrounding the shooting that are being investigated by the DoJ and the local DA. Continuing to echo the one-sided picture in the mind of the mobs, let alone having a member of Congress calling it murder, is classical demagoguery and fomenting more violence from people who need all the help they can get to think clearly on the matter.
And then the police respond in tactical gear with armored vehicles giving the whole scene an eerie look of how a banana republic dictatorship handles street unrest. We are doing it to ourselves with the intended conclusion that more measures of public control and constraint are needed by government at all levels.
My conclusion is that the lamestream and the interviewed officials come across stupid (not ignorant) bordering on imbecility, or they are by half very cleverly cynical.

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fish

17 August 2014

Posted by: George Rebane | 17 August 2014 at 10:29 AM
Yes I’ve been following the media/government walk back of the original narrative with a great deal of amusement.
We are doing it to ourselves with the intended conclusion that more measures of public control and constraint are needed by government at all levels.
Actually I think we’ll see some push back on this front. Mr. and Ms. Social Justice Warrior and now seeing what they’re likely to face the next time they waltz down to “stand in solidarity with the oppressed”….I don’t think they care for it much.

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Russ Steele

17 August 2014

We local bloggers are making a difference:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/04/10/small-digital-news-sites-young-lean-and-local/
Keep up the good work George.

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George Rebane

17 August 2014

RussS 1105am – Thanks, and you too Russ (and Barry and Todd and Bob and …)

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George Rebane

17 August 2014

We saw ‘The Giver’ with Meryl Streep, Jeff Bridges, et al. Good flick that hews pretty well to the book, and has a more hopeful ending. Worth seeing.
I reported on the book here –
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2014/07/the-giver-a-progressive-nirvana.html
Some people characterize its message as being an apolitical exposure of ‘soft tyranny’ that we should all recognize. I don’t think so. To me it is a definite indictment of the Progressivist Parkway that the country is barreling down. Evidence of it is the few endorsements for the book or the film that have come from leftwing outlets. I think that Streep and Bridges expected a different response when they signed on to do the movie.

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Gregory

17 August 2014

Regarding Roof Koreans, they weren’t the only folk who banded together and kept themselves safe when the police were overwhelmed. Up in the hills above Westwood and Beverly Hills, homeowners barricaded the entrances and brought out an array of firepower that bewildered all, including those who had them but, like their neighbors, didn’t talk about the acquisitions. The money in the LA Times was something like “I always thought that when the revolution came, I’d be on the other side.”
Finally, David Gregory has been unceremoniously kicked off of the venerable Meet The Press, with a reported $4M payment to shut up and not be disparaging of the network. Andrea Michell filled in this morning and Chuck Todd will be hosting starting soon, next week I hear. Shucks, I didn’t keep the last MTP with that Gregory, it might be nice to watch one more time to savor the moment. I do have Tim Russert’s last MTP TiVo’d, from 6/8/2008 and I’ve not had the heart to delete it… Obama had just won the Democratic nomination, the discussion was who Obama’s running mate should/would be.
David Gregory strikes me as the kind of MTP host that a Frisch, an Anderson or a Pelline would love. Todd is no Russert, but he’ll do OK… compared to David Gregory.

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Don Bessee

17 August 2014

There is a report that originated with the conservative treehouse blog that an anti-cop web posted video had a secondary background conversation from an eye witness to the St. Louis shooting incident. The eye witness was speaking to a neighbor immediately after the event. The conversation clearly parallels the policeman’s story. The fight in the car, then a disengagement and the thief charging the police again. The witness went on to say that the cop kept shooting and the guy kept coming, the witness thought the cop was missing him. A prelim autopsy shows six hits. Do not expect that the uncomfortable truth will stop Sharpton and Holders professional agitation team from continuing to milk this for all its worth. If you were the small business owner who’s stores were getting looted you might like the idea of the police having a bullet proof vehicle. I think of the Russian big bank robbery team that had the massive shoot out in LA and kicked the cops ass for way too long. They had to borrow an armored cash delivery truck to retrieve cops who were bleeding out because their vests could not stop the mil spec ammo the criminals were using. Between the jihaddies wet dreams for carnage in the US by US residents and the cartels recent increase in the use of grenades I am ok with the surplus program. We already paid for the gear and it makes what would be a soft target for them a more complicated issue.

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Barry Pruett

18 August 2014

Greg…glad to hear David Gregory is gone. MTP was a staple in my house as a youth, and it was also mandatory Sunday watching during my adult life. Russert is deeply missed and Gregory unlike Russert could not hide his extreme liberal leanings (kind of like Big Bubba). I llok forward to watching a few episodes and seeing how Todd does. Good news.

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Bill Tozer

18 August 2014

Didn’t Gregory make some unflattering observations of the current Administration and challenge it’s spin machine nonsense shortly before his sudden departure? Hmmmm. Another victim of the vast left wing conspiracy to shut down disent.
Mr.Bessee, just participated a small unscientific readers’ poll. You are in the majority on the opinion about local law enforcement having grenade launchers and tanks. Poll asked three questions, multiple choice type. To paraphrase, A) End the program, bad juju. B) Mend it, don’t end it. C) Don’t mess with the program, why scrape this stuff that is already bought and paid for.
C had the overwhelming majority, B had about 21%, A had single digits. I voted B because I too remember the LA bank robbers who strolled about leisurely shooting the outgunned cops. Plus this isn’t my father’s era (retired from the PD in 1979 after 30 years). Dad was from an era where switchblade knives and brass knuckles were the weapons of choice among the bad guys and the most fearsome weapon they faced was the dreaded sawed off shotgun. He also went his whole career without ever shooting someone. He, at 6′ 1″ was the smallest cop on the force (town over 100,000) when hired with only a high school diploma and a WWII vet. He was the smallest dude cause back then only big muscular flat foots were hired. Weight lifting was mandatory and the cops back then physically wrested the bad guys and physically subdued them without guns or pepper spray. And smack and diet pills were the only hard drugs around, just meatheads no methheads. I know the disdain he felt for trigger happy law enforcement who pull out guns as a matter of habit, and he ran more than one command center during crisis. He called them “bam, halt” cops, referring to some of the LAPD and sheriffs.
Times have changed. Heck, nowadays police don’t even wear Smokey the Bear hats, just bullet proof vests. Public perception and respect shown to the citizenry first by the good self discipline cops ( even when spat upon, you always showed respect and where polite) was the rule. Times have changed. Evil days ahead.

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fish

18 August 2014

Jeff Pelline says:
August 18, 2014 at 7:08 am
Now Barry Pruett is joining in the “Big Bubba” chorus. Criticize the person’s idea, not the person.
jeffy you’re fat…either accept it or do something about it. The fact the Mr. Crabb depicted you as “Cartmann” probably has more to do with the fact that you’re such a horrible preachy backstabber rather than the fact that you resemble the geometric construct with the smallest surface area to volume ratio.

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George Rebane

18 August 2014

fish 924am – “… geometric construct with smallest surface area to volume ratio.” – a laudable repartee that combines a bit of science and precise communication with churchillian delivery. Most commendable.

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George Rebane

18 August 2014

Militarization of police. Just got an interesting link from a correspondent to a NYT piece that reports on the types of military gear received by county across the land.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/15/us/surplus-military-equipment-map.html?_r=1

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Walt

18 August 2014

@ Russ.. Seems they have raised the alert level on that Iceland volcano from “watch” to “OH, Crap”.
Look how they downplay the “possibilities”
http://www.businessinsider.com/iceland-volcano-bardarbunga-could-blow-2014-8

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fish

18 August 2014

HuffPo reporter hit by rubber bullets…..reporter street cred….movin up…..wait…those are disposable earplugs!
Reporter street cred…..movin down!
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/huffpo-reporter-mistakes-earplugs-rubber-bullets

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