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Sandbox – 1aug14

01 August 2014

[My apologies for letting the 24jul14 sandbox overfill. Out of desperation, I suppose, people were beginning to discuss local drone flights under the SoJ post, and other transgressions ;-) Here's a fresh one.]

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67 responses to “Sandbox – 1aug14”

George Rebane

01 August 2014

I have long rued the way of liberal logic and the way most of them debate. Last night at my Rotary club’s pre-fair dinner – we sell pulled pork sandwiches on Treat Street, y’all come next week – I had an encounter with a fellow Rotarian who is long on his Left, and he, of course, knew where my biases lay. Someone had put a burr under his blanket about the transgressions of our Chief Liar, and he was looking for retribution and redress, …, and I was it. So he opens with the well known charge that VP Cheney was single handedly responsible for the Iraq war by bamboozling the whole world with all kinds of lies. Weren’t for ol’ Dick, Saddam would still be happily slaughtering his people instead of moldering in his grave while Iraqis slaughter each other. OK, so I gave a couple of counters that spread the blame way beyond Cheney. No matter, he immediately countered with challenging my endorsement of the Iraq war which endorsement in no way had escaped my lips (‘we know what they really mean’). So I asked whether the topic had changed. Indeed it had, for now the man was asking how I would like it if any of my kids had been killed in that futile war. Attempting to follow this Cheshire cat debating style popping up hither and yon, for there were several more leaps of some magnitude, I finally had to retreat with the admission that as a debater I was not anywhere close to his league. We left it at that.
But this experience is such a common one with the Left. Attempting to discuss something with one of them is kind of like trying to juggle a bowl of jello, without the benefit of a bowl. It may explain away the ways of Congress and similar august bodies across our land.

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fish

01 August 2014

Hey I thought all the demagogues hung out on the “right” side of town……I mean that’s what we’re constantly told! Constantly whipping up the slow witted dullards who vote republican.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/384379/guti-rrez-spanish-remarks-gop-want-punish-our-community-andrew-johnson
Hey jeffy…Gutierrez stole your trademarked catch phrase….“our community”™!
You should sue!

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fish

03 August 2014

jeffpelline says:
August 2, 2014 at 9:42 pm
It’s hard to imagine Todd Juvinall was an elected county supervisor when you read the comments that appear unmoderated on his blog.
Reply
It’s hard to imagine that Herb Cain let a dunderhead like you fetch his coffee and Danish for him out of fear that your stupid is catching.
You do realize that you’ve made 2nd order satire directed at you over at Todds the centerpiece of what you had hoped to be a serious post.
Hey Cletus….are you sure that you weren’t let go from the Union because you were/are stupid and not a jerk as commonly thought?

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Walt

03 August 2014

Wow… allowing the uncensored thoughts to be posted for all to see… What a concept.
Maybe that’s why Todd’s page get WAY more activity that Jeffy’s tomb.

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Todd Juvinall

03 August 2014

I think the bigboy is just jealous. I guess when the revered local paper has no use for you and sends yu packing you end up bitter and mad like he is. LOL!
At least the voters proved the bigboy wrong in regards to me. And I thank them. Too funny!

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George Rebane

03 August 2014

Has anyone kept track of the brouhaha that followed Newsweek columnist Matt Patterson’s article that exposes Obama as our Section 8 president? People from both sides have leaped into the breech to congratulate or condemn the historically liberal publication for finally laying it all out. Here’s Patterson’s piece –
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/obama_the_affirmative_action_president.html

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fish

03 August 2014

Haven’t heard anything about it. Another brouhaha surrounding President Empty Suit…..well….who could conceive of such a thing.

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Todd Juvinall

03 August 2014

I watched a panel on CSPAN yesterday at the ASPEN Institute. A CNN guy and Charles (I kiss Obama’s Ass daily, Ogeltree, and Miguel Estrada were the panel. All should watch this and you will see the brilliance of Estrada and the idiocy of Ogeltree.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?320511-1/executive-power-constitution
Estrada was filibustered seven times by the democrats when Bush nominated him for the bench. Ogeltree is unfortunately teaching our youth (brainwashing lefty crap) at Harvard. Watch it and you will see the stark difference of the left and right in America

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Walt

03 August 2014

And to think that article is three years old. Yet still right on the mark today.
We would all be goose stepping today if Patton had “led from behind”.
“O” has handled world issues like a Chicago gangland street thug, doing “drive bys”.
Starts some crap, the runs, yet never sticks around to finish the job, yet leaves the mess for others to clean up. ( or a rival gang to take over…ISIS)
Even Israel wants “O” and Co. to keep their nose out of things. Ol’ horse face Kerry loused things up, and took Hamas’s side… BAD move… The bigger the body count, the better Hamas likes it.
Even most (but not all) LIBS are in the Hamas corner. Just what BS are the swallowing?
Ero news is a little peeved that their reporting of a fact ( rockets fired from the hospital)are being publically shared!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/03/dont-use-me-reporter-admits-seeing-rocket-fired-from-gaza-hospital-then-blasts-pro-israel-media-for-quoting-her%e2%80%a8/

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George Rebane

03 August 2014

Walt 952am – It would be most interesting to see updates to that assessment now that three more years of corroborative data are part of the man’s record (and, unfortunately, part of our country’s history).

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Michael R. Kesti

03 August 2014

*** 03Aug14 comment moderated on Jeff Pelline’s Sierra Foothills Report ***
“Tod Juvenall did originally misspell the title of his blog but it has been months, perhaps years, since he corrected it. Your use of this inconsequential error in an attempt to insult demonstrates just how childish and petty you are, Jeff.”
Full disclosure: My comment was not actually moderated as I have long been banned from Jeff Pelline’s blog comments. I was never profane, did not engaged in name calling, and I certainly never referenced anybody’s physique. Instead, my transgressions included pointing out Jeff Pelline’s hypocrisies, vendetta, and petty childishness.
He dishes it out well enough that you might think he could take it just a bit better.

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George Rebane

03 August 2014

SoJ townhall update. After attending yesterday’s event I have updated my recent SoJ post. Russ Steele gives a complete report on the affair here.
http://sierrafoothillcommentary.com/2014/08/03/the-state-of-jefferson-town-hall/

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Walt

03 August 2014

Doc. As far as LIB news goes,, they are starting to see their “superman” sucks.
“They” are even questioning the “impeachment” rhetoric from “O” and Co.,, with statements
like ” The only ones talking about impeachment, are LIBS.. What gives?”
Damning facts sure got under Nancy P.’s Botox job, and got her scurrying across the House floor waggling her boney finger.. Yup,, truth hurts.
That Crone has no clue how the flood of illegals is their own handiwork and a danger to the U.S. of A.
Funny how we haven’t heard a peep out of our “open boarder” crew since the “Brown tide” has hit the Southern beach.

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fish

03 August 2014

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 03 August 2014 at 10:31 AM
Isn’t it a requirement, in order to not look like a complete idiot, to be able to “take it”, if you want to engage in hypocrisy, vendetta, and childishness?

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Todd Juvinall

03 August 2014

I get a kick out of the bigboy’s use of the domain name for my blog which ends in an “e:. The blog’s title doesn’t have the “e” and it is the official name of my blog. Kesti is correct that the bigboy and also Frisch use the address bar name to make some kind of dig. But it doesn’t bother me. I want to apologize to Mr. Kesti for offending him a few years ago. I am sorry.
Anyway, we are all moderated off bigboy’s blog and we all accept that as his intolerance to dissent. A trait fascist’s use.

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Gregory

03 August 2014

“I was never profane, did not engaged in name calling, and I certainly never referenced anybody’s physique. Instead, my transgressions included pointing out Jeff Pelline’s hypocrisies, vendetta, and petty childishness.”
Kesti, that was my case also; I didn’t start pointing out El Jefe’s heftiness until he decided lying about me was OK (long after I was banished from his sandbox for winning arguments, that supposed “temper tantrum” at a parade that no one saw because it never happened). Hearing that he was pissed at the Crabman for using a fat character, Cartman, to portray him sealed that deal.
Jeff, this is for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Vv9wReLKM

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Barry Pruett

03 August 2014

Todd: Kim and I watched Toobin and Estrada discuss the Constitution and Ogletree was there for an Obama pep rally. We were astonished that he could be a professor at Harvard. He truly had no idea about the Constitution. He was just cheerleader. It was disappointing, as Estrada proved that he should be on the Supreme Court. Except the Dems filibustered him 7 times because he represented Bush in Bush v. Gore. Not policy reasons…purely political.

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Barry Pruett

03 August 2014

And yes. Kim and I are nerds and watched CSPAN on Friday night…

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fish

03 August 2014

BTW, we are returning to the farm-to-table banquet in NC next weekend that Reinette has organized. It is sold out. The dinner table talk is not about politics; we enjoy visiting with our neighbors, who are of all political stripes.
Well of course you are.
I imagine that it would be difficult for even a disingenuous nitwit like yourself to remain pretentious and annoying while jamming your hole full of Kale and Dandelion salad topped with artisanal dressing.

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fish

03 August 2014

….and fresh from his sick bed, ol soft headed Ben Emery offers a contribution.
Jeff,
Once again Todd and his anonymous crew are showing how limited their ability to see the big picture on such things. He cannot or refuses to see how the old guard stifles innovation and competition, which are both things conservatives like preach about as being their values. It is way to funny how pure partisans tie like Todd themselves into knots with hypocrisy.
What “Big Picture” would that be O se’er of pictures large?
Do elaborate on the stifling of innovation and competition.
….tie like Todd themselves…..???? Epic sentence structure there Ben….I was refraining from giving people crap about typos but that’s epic.
What’s the matter Ben….no opportunity recently to staple a CORPORATIST/AUTHORITARIAN/FASCIST sign to a broom handle, stake out a spot in front of your bedroom door and picket in your jammies?

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Todd Juvinall

03 August 2014

Barry, watching CSPAN is a gift but only a few watch it like us on Friday nights. LOL!
Also, yesterday I watched a western Kentucky town’s annual whatever and they had Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul and a host of State candidates speak. The broad Grimes, who is running against Mitch is a piece pf work. I listened and cringed as she attacked him in such nasty personal language. She is a disgrace but she does represent the left. Nasty, no manners, and whiners when they get it back. Mitch was kind.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?320666-1/sen-mitch-mcconnell-rky-alison-lundergan-grimes-d

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Todd Juvinall

03 August 2014

So fish, you say Der Ben Emery is back? I thought he would go away after being defeated so mnay times in debate.

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fish

03 August 2014

We had established an informal truce of sorts that both sides have honored for the most part.
And then this morning…….more of his usual silliness!.
A truce, like a young woman, lasts while she lasts.

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Gregory

03 August 2014

Stop the presses!
“The real problem is people like Pruett, Juvinall and the anonymous commenters on the hard-right blogs, not me. I have voted for Republicans and Democrats over the years. I am middle of the road.”- Jeff Pelline
Middle of the road… from the point of view of The Chronicle, perhaps. From the center of Nevada County, Jeff, From punitive gun laws to climate, you’re standing firmly on the partisan Democratic Party side, time after time after time.
Not to mention the name calling… you are incapable of writing “right” without a “Hard-” preface, and worse, as far as I am personally concerned, you tar me with your broad “hard-right” brush despite my never being conservative, never being Republican, never being Tea Party, never being… right wing at all, except that I am loudly anti-“Progressive”.
Perhaps if you’d share a major office, President, Senator, Representative, Governor, for whom you have publicly supported someone other than a Democrat… how about it, Jeff?

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fish

03 August 2014

“I am middle of the road.”……
and two thirds of both lanes in either direction…….

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Bill Tozer

03 August 2014

But, Mr. Fish, a fine pair of hand crafted cowboy boots is like a classy lady. You only reveal only a little bit at a time as you slowly lift the Levi boot cut up a few inches and leave the rest for one’s imagination.
Don’t know why you all get stirred up over a simple disgusting tub of lard. Tubbie the Tuba comes into the playground, kicks up some sand and when the boys come out to play, Tubbie the Tuba runs away. It’s the disguising tub of Lardo’s MO and we fall for it every time. I used to think Tubbie the Tuba was intellectually lazy and intellectually quite dishonest, but now my belief is the disguising person is just plain stupid as a bag of hammers.
Think I will cut the most disguising grotesque tub of human debris some slack now that it has become clear beyond any reasonable shadow of doubt that the grotesque one is BOTH physically and mentally impaired. I will try to be nicer to the horrid one realizing we should treat the slow, lame, and feeble with some kindness, just as you would treat a senile relative blabbing and drooling all over himself at the Thanksgiving dinner table.

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fish

03 August 2014

Oh Wiliiam….if jeffy had just stayed out of my local paper he and I wouldn’t have been conscious of each others existence. Since this twist of fate did indeed occur I have decided to make him my special project….until he bails or I get bored.

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fish

03 August 2014

Think I will cut the most disguising grotesque tub of human debris some slack now that it has become clear beyond any reasonable shadow of doubt that the grotesque one is BOTH physically and mentally impaired.
Well you’re the better man William!
Every time I have a notion that I’ve misjudged jeffy he goes and posts something either monumentally stupid or ham-fistedly self serving and the moment….thankfully….. passes!

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Michael R. Kesti

03 August 2014

fish 0212 – …I have decided to make him my special project….until he bails or I get bored.
I have all of the respect for that as I have for the special project he has made of The Union.

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fish

03 August 2014

Posted by: Michael R. Kesti | 03 August 2014 at 02:26 PM
C’mon Michael…everyone needs a hobby.

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Walt

03 August 2014

Jeffy is turning into a real piece of work. He even turns on his own.
Seems he tries to punish anyone who posts off his “plantation”.
” What?? a post I don’t agree with on George’s or Todd’s free range?
How DARE you say something on an moderated site without consulting ME first!
I will show YOU… Anything you say HERE, might get posted when I’m damned good and ready, and after I made the necessary changes. I have EDITOR experience!”
Safe yourself some grief people and let Jeffy wallow by himself in his own private little kingdom. Say your piece here and on Todd’s pages. Yes, you may catch some ribbing and a little flack, but without any worry if what you say will get through or not.
Jeffy is the poster boy for everything LIBS what to do the everyone. The 1ST. Amendment is their most hated right. ( unless it’s message THEY want out.)
Truth is the next enemy on the list.
I remember well when RL penned our version of Cartman. OH what a day that was. Yet as true as the Sun comes up in the East.
” Cartman’s” club house seems to be losing “members” day by day.

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fish

03 August 2014

Who did he decide to make an example of this afternoon Walt?

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Walt

03 August 2014

Now THAT I couldn’t tell ya’ Mr. Fish.
But look at all the gripes from the last few weeks from those who have got a taste of his wrath.
I gave up a LONG time ago getting anything past “moderation”. And I thought The Union was bad when it went Marxist with it’s moderating.
Speaking of moderation of comments,, been to The Bee lately? That went “post by invitation only” a long time ago. I have yet to see ANY!
I will admit I got tossed from S.F. Gate… I used the word “Liberal”,,,, TOO liberally.
They didn’t like it. But at least they still let some Conservative opinions though.
You can still find good ol’ ” DM ” lurking on any given story that uses the” Disqus ” post board. There I bag my limit when on a LIB safari. I bury may a troll late at night.

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fish

03 August 2014

Ah…my mistake….from the tone of your post it sounded like the axe fell on one of his regulars today.

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Walt

03 August 2014

This is NOT good news. Ebola has made it to England.
It is just a plane ride away from showing up on our shores.
Yet the “experts” have been downplaying the virus, and it’s spread ability.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ebola-terror-gatwick-passenger-collapses-3977051
Everyone on that plane should have been quarantined. No mention in the story if they did.

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Bill Tozer

03 August 2014

Holy Todelo drinking water! The US doctor with the elbola is in Atlanta. Hope he is enjoying his private room doing the Bubble Boy thang. Just like a test tube baby that has a womb with a view.
Glad to hear that the one and only DM is alive and kicking and gunning for bear on those late night search and destroy missions. Give ’em their own little taste of shock and awe. Been missing the DM lately, but I will have to settle for DM’s kinder gentler version that frequents these pages.

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Bill Tozer

03 August 2014

http://www.examiner.com/topic/nancy-pelosi
Looks like Todd was right. Lib holiest is a mental disease

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Bill Tozer

03 August 2014

Shucks, meant to post a link about something good coming out of Hollywood.
Actor James Woods: Nancy Pelosi ‘may actually be mentally ill’
Oh well, this darn pad gizmo don’t show URLs. No more sharing pics either.
Pelosi says that we should treat children like Baby Jesus. Does that mean through the eyes of our elitist progressive/liberal/Marxist/ Save the Whales crowd that Baby Jesus should have been aborted?
Is Hamas truly really really really an humanitarian organization as Nanny Pelosi just stated. Call me a radical, but it’s hard to find any other humanitarian group who has in its charter the sole goal of the complete destruction and eradication of a country named Israel. What do they serve for dessert?
I confess I was dumbfounded when Nanny the budget balancer stated with a straight face that her proudest accomplishment of the 43(?) Congress was passing Pay-Go. The first time in America history we have had a female Speaker of the House and she is proudest of Pay-Go. Hmmmm.
When the San Francisco chapter of Code Pink demonstrated outside her gated mansion, Nanny approached them and yelled “You are not my constituents.” Now Ms. Nanny calls all the little children of the world “her constituents.”
Yep, there is no other explanation other than Ms Pelosi is mentally ill. She has to nuts to actually believe her own bully pucky, not to mention defend it.
Knew a guy once that was locked up in the nut house. He told the other inmates…er……patients that he was not really crazy, it was just a cover cause he is working for the CIA and placed there on a mission, top secret of course. He told me that the inmates were really really crazy nuts cause they actually believed him.
Queen Nancy is suffering from severe mental illness. The evidence is she actually believes what comes out of her Botoxed lips.

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fish

04 August 2014

Hypoxia in the Emery home…..tragic.
Ben Emery says:
August 4, 2014 at 7:12 am
Jim,
Good for you, embrace being a progressive because it has been progressives that have created what is great about our nation. In fact those on the right wing blogs still don’t realize that being progressive basically means “reform” to inequality and injustices…..
It’s adorable that you believe this…..sad but adorable.

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Bill Tozer

04 August 2014

Mr. Fish: I found Mr. Ben’s sentiments rather cute and endearing myself.
Now we have our Justice Department’s push to ALL high schools about inadvertent racism going around that must be stopped. Too much inadvertent racism is happening right under our noses!
Not new news, but dovetails nicely with Brother BM’s rallying cry of “reform”
to nasty inequality and vulgar injustice.
Seems it is happening in our schools on a daily basis. Take the percentage of bad white students who get discipled, suspended, or expelled from public schools as the norm. The troublemakers if you will.
Asian students here in The Land of the Free are disciplined at a lower percentage rate than white students. Latino students are discipled at at much higher rate than white students. Black students are disciplined at a rate higher than Latino students.
So, what is the solution laid forth by the Justice Department for this shocking injustice and inequality? Why, that is too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel. Simply send all the schools nasty grams telling them their discipline policies are racist and to discipline students of color less, much less. That makes it all fair now, does it not? Just take the troublemakers and wave a wand and turn them into non-troublemakers. Nothing to see here, move on. Don’t think this is what the Civil Rights Movement had in mind, but what do I know concerning such matters.

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Walt

04 August 2014

As I recall,, it wasn’t the “Progressives” that freed the slaves. But “Progressives” have made plenty of “slaves” beholden to government. ” Free enterprise” is now a thing of the past. That must be the “reform” Ben is crowing about.

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fish

04 August 2014

Yes….I remember an exchange with Ben where his statement regarding “Progressivism” was essentially…..“…all progressives want is just compensation for honest labor” (I’m paraphrasing). Then the Hobby Lobby decision came down and it was “bullshit” that the court allowed that position because Hobby Lobby was just trying to screw women out of what they were entitled. And so it became…“…all progressives want is just compensation for honest labor”. and ….birth control/abortifacients for women. Tomorrow “all progressives want” will be something else.
It always is.

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Bill Tozer

04 August 2014

Fish, glad you hit on the progressive/nanny state’s insatiable appetite. Big Brother is never satisfied and always in need to consume more. And ironically, them institution worshipers warn us about the slippery slope. Like fire, it can never be satisfied as it consumes more and more in wanton abandon.
A wise Lebanese man once penned “the man who worries about his well running dry draws water than can never quench his thirst.”
Oh, the constant turmoil that dwells within the Progressive cranium. Evidence that once again there is no rest for the wicked control freaks.

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fish

04 August 2014

Interesting topic at Todds…..seems “regular guy” Jim Firth was Leland Yee’s Chief of Staff?
You have to be fucking kidding me?!?!
I’m a “regular guy”…perhaps working with gun runners is something I should look into?
Ben is this the progressivism of which you are so proud?
…. In fact those on the right wing blogs still don’t realize that being progressive basically means “reform” to inequality and injustices…..and guns….lots and lots of illegal guns.

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Bill Tozer

04 August 2014

Oh my o my. The local life long Democrat operative is running for the GV council? No worries as what harm can he do in such a lowly position beneath his qualifications? Besides, being unemployed is no fun and he needs to help the wife out with contributing to the family cookie jar. Nothing wrong with hiring the idle……except he is too extremist (not purple enough) for one of our beloved stalkers out there in cyberspace.
Too hard core for purple Grass Valley I tell ya.

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Walt

04 August 2014

Just got a fresh dose of old school Dem. drug induced logic.
the movie “Hair” got dug up and viewed. How come I get the feeling one or two of the resident LIBS here played parts in the movie?

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fish

04 August 2014

Man…..I was looking forward to a quiet sick day today!
jeffpelline says:
August 4, 2014 at 12:33 pm
It’s shameful how conservatives have addressed gun-control legislation since this episode. Now we have politicos and activists such as Tim Donnelly, Tom McClintock and Mark Meckler:
LOOK! Something else that scares jeffy!
Run fat boy…..run!

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Walt

04 August 2014

Jeff hasn’t figured it out yet. Being anti gun, hasn’t worked in LIB’S favor one bit.
But it sure has cost them a few elected seats. LIBS are well known for “do as I say, not as I do.” Many an anti gunner packs, or is surrounded by those that do. ( I know,,, that’s different) From Nancy the krone, to Nanny Bloomersburg.
I am seriously considering getting that bane to LIBS. The dreaded CWP. ( One more armed “good guy”) Since “O” and Co. along with Gov. Moonbeam have given illegals free run, and criminals now fall under the purview of Fish and Game,( catch and release only)
the likelihood of those same people looking to do harm are greater than ever.
Sorry to hear your under the weather Fish, now get well soon. Feeling crappy really sucks.
BTW,, It’s scarry when I might be right on some matters. Now N.Y. just might have an Ebola case on their hands. Like I said. Just a plane ride away.

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Walt

04 August 2014

I’m surprised THIS didn’t show up in Nevada Co. first. We know how “cutting edge” our ECO clan is.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/07/31/336564120/should-we-return-the-nutrients-in-our-pee-back-to-the-farm?
Just wait till you see the pictures! Sure… Have those containers around on our nice sunny days..

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fish

04 August 2014

Just wait till you see the pictures! Sure… Have those containers around on our nice sunny days..
Yeah but it makes recycling so much more exciting! All those trucker bombs along the interstate….liquid gold.
Speaking of illness…..how you doin these days?

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