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Sandbox – 12jul14

12 July 2014

[No doubt some comment threads will continue from Sandbox – 7jul14. Onward!]

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150 responses to “Sandbox – 12jul14”

Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Bill,
Barry was appointed to this position on the Western Gateway Park board because there weren’t enough candidates. He didn’t earn it: whether it be a job interview, election or request for proposal process. In short, there was no competition, so he got the job. I had expected he’d be more humble when an issue was raised about governance of the park amid more political activism. Instead, he lashed out — just like all of you — circling the wagon. The responses here over the weekend speaks volumes about the hard-right voice in our community and their inability to compromise and collaborate. Thanks for confirming my worst suspicions.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

George,
You just deleted my response to Bill Tozer. What’s up with that?

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Gregory

13 July 2014

Jeff Pelline, I won’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just wrote.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Glad to see it now.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2014

You are welcome! Glad to confirm your worse fears. It has been a pleasure. Sorry we were not able to compromise on the issues you raised. Strike that. Ain’t sorry at all. To repeat, its been a pleasure and you are most welcome. Anything I can do for ya, just drop me a line or have your secretary call my executive assistant to arrange lunch.
Love and big hugs and slobbery kisses back at you my dear close personal friend. With good friends like you who needs enemas? And never no need for the thanks, its the least I can do for my fellow pilgrim on this lonely cruel hostile planet known as God’s Green Earth.

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fish

13 July 2014

Thanks for confirming my worst suspicions.
Thanks for confirming mine! You are a whiny political hack who isn’t smart enough to know when to quit digging.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Gregory Goodknight (AKA “Independent software engineer at my place”) it’s more truthful than anything you’ve written in this thread. BTW, if it weren’t for Anna Haynes http://www.ncvoices.us/ I would have no idea who you were. LOL.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2014

Dr. Rebane! Think we are maxed out on the posts. Sandbox got polluted by my dear close personal friend from Nevada City. Either get a big pooper scooper or do it the easier way; aka, make a new sandbox. New sandbox, same sticky brown stuff hitting the oscillating device. Just a reminder. Its that darn OCD in me. Not that moi would ever tell you how to run your own blog….not in this lifetime at least.

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fish

13 July 2014

Gregory Goodknight (AKA “Independent software engineer at my place”) it’s more truthful than anything you’ve written in this thread. BTW, if it weren’t for Anna Haynes http://www.ncvoices.us/ I would have no idea who you were. LOL.
No need to lash out jeffy….most unseemly. Aren’t you supposed to be eating your way across Italy?

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Gregory,
Lashing out would be saying something like you are the biggest loser I’ve ever met that graduated from Harvey Mudd College. Well, come to think of it, that would be true as well. LOL.

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Todd Juvinall

13 July 2014

Honestly, I think this Pelline character is nutty!

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Gregory

13 July 2014

Wow… Jeff Pelline, everything you know about me is from that loon of a climate activist Anna Haynes (who, when asked what temperature was could not respond with anything besides ‘it’s the number on a thermometer’) then why did you decide to fabricate that non existent “temper tantrum” at a Constitution Day parade you chose to tar me with? She certainly didn’t make that one up.
That was a lie, Jeff, and if there was any Mensch hiding somewhere in that mound of man-flesh, you would be owning up to it.

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Gregory

13 July 2014

The biggest loser you’ve ever met? We have never met, Jeff, another incredible falsification on your part. You do that so easily; I guess your career in journalism really did prepare you to publish a glossy advertiser devoid of informative and objective reporting.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2014

Better watch out y’all. Fattis Maxiums (my dear close personal friend) has put the kid to bed and has been let out of his cage. He is taking his nice guy gloves off. Run for the hills. Flee in terror. The dam is busting!!!!

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Gentleman,
You should all thank Anna Haynes at http://www.ncvoices.us/ for bringing you out of total obscurity to mere obscurity. What a hoot!

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2014

Actually, all this posting was not necessary. Mr. George Boardman’s post (the very first one) explained it all and the rest is just window dressing. With that said, run to the hills! Hell hath no fury like a fat woman scorned.

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Gregory

13 July 2014

“Gregory,
Lashing out would be saying something like you are the biggest loser I’ve ever met” [from a college Jeffie couldn’t get into if he tried, with a major he has too few IQ points to attempt even at a Cal State]
Jeffie… that little tantrum of yours at 10:28, on second reading, seems based on your misidentifying me as the author of the 10:21:
“No need to lash out jeffy….most unseemly. Aren’t you supposed to be eating your way across Italy?
That was “fish”.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Gregory,
I was accepted at the Claremont Colleges (Pomona College), but I chose Cal instead. BTW, does the Harvey Mudd Alumni newsletter list you as “”Independent software engineer at my place.” What an achievement! LOL.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

And as for Todd and George Boardman (The Union’s paid weekly columnist), they and/or their families both apparently have more in common than their loud, like-minded commentary:
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/Pages/Delinquent-Secured-Property-Taxes-.aspx
Maybe it’s time they ate a little “humble pie” instead of casting stones.

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Gregory

13 July 2014

By choosing Cal, you may have increased the collective intelligence of both Pomona College and Cal alumni associations but for the college attended by my son’s parents, you’d have needed a near perfect SAT-M and shown some talent studying reality. Still, considering how you turned out, you probably should have made different choices.
Drinking tonight? Be careful, we’ve seen how you get.

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Bill Tozer

13 July 2014

Man ole man, here it comes. His Lardship’s side kick recently lamented that he misses William F Buckley. Hey, we found common ground. I miss him too:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/1376650_10151671452875911_111450618_n.jpg
His Lardship recently lamented on his own blog that us from the HARD right resort to mudslinging when we are losing an argument. The law of pointing one finger forward and have three pointing back is stronger than the law of gravity and works every time. Now, what was the FUE just saying?
I can understand Fattis going to the disc golf park with family and not wanting his offspring exposed to ideas in direct conflict with what he has been teaching the yougin. Don’t want an inquisitive young mind getting some wild idea in his/her noggin that there are some good ideas out there that don’t have Daddy’s stamp of approval or did not flow from the throne of his Lardship.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/p417x417/1450823_10151774479335911_985508086_n.jpg
Well, your Assholiness, I better go beat the dog and kick the wife. Or is it the other way around? See, I just handled you a good quote for you to take back to the fort. Confirmed your worse fears again and once again, no need to thank me. Comedians are always looking for new material. Here is some really weird material you can take credit for:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1533738_10151872111010911_1250578312_n.jpg?oh=9b3477868c8e5674db8b993d3d471a80&oe=5457B7BB&__gda__=1412788753_3b303adb5d3e6ed798bea87143bd1b61

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Gregory,
When you are losing an argument, you always turn nasty. It’s very unbecoming for a Harvey Mudd graduate. Let it go man.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

Bill,
What you ought to do is clean up your yard! It is one of the most overgrown properties in town. I’d be worried about your fire insurance premiums.

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fish

13 July 2014

When you are losing an argument, you always turn nasty. It’s very unbecoming for a Harvey Mudd graduate. Let it go man.
jeffy….I’ve never seen you project like this. Have you considered speaking to a competent credentialed professional about those anger issues?
…and what’s this…more lashing out…at poor William now?
What you ought to do is clean up your yard! It is one of the most overgrown properties in town. I’d be worried about your fire insurance premiums.
That’s not helpful! It kind of sounded…well…a little threatening. Hope William doesn’t need to call the local constable. Lord knows it’s certainly not collaborative….or compromising.
Goodness jeffy you do need that European getaway.
and what’s this….oh my…we’re back to the tax roles again?
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/Pages/Delinquent-Secured-Property-Taxes-.aspx
Did the nuns ever clear up their issue?
See I knew we could get to your hard candy center and find the “real” boy inside.

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Jeff Pelline

13 July 2014

“fish,”
I’m truly astounded that “Dr.” Rebane allows you to post on his blog. You are the epitome of a dumb sock puppet.
There, have I covered everyone? LOL

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fish

13 July 2014

Lashing out would be saying something like you are the biggest loser I’ve ever met that graduated from Harvey Mudd College. Well, come to think of it, that would be true as well. LOL.
…and jeffy….credit where credit is due……I’m a much bigger loser than Greg. Not that I graduated from Harvey Mudd or anything.
Now about that vacation…..

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Gregory

14 July 2014

Jeffie, you’ve lied, misidentified, tried to justify making it hard for folks you don’t like to use a park you don’t pay for and dredged up what you laughingly think is something dreadful from my LinkedIn. You’re the one who so for so long tried to hide your major at Cal… Rhetoric, usually taken by folks who are pre-Law. What was the matter… only get admitted to the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople Law School and had to take a Masters in journalism as a consolation prize to have some marketable skill?
Checking, a staff writer salary (your past title) nowadays averages $42K. Wow! I’d say I do more for humanity as an independent software engineer at my place then you do as the publisher of a glossy advertiser devoid of journalistic integrity with a news stand price matching its value on the market.

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fish

14 July 2014

I’m truly astounded that “Dr.” Rebane allows you to post on his blog. You are the epitome of a dumb sock puppet.
Because I’m entertaining. While you are whiny, bitchy and dull as soap when you try and post on matters of any import. You are truly Gladys Kravitz without the charm.
We covered this ground a while back jeffy. I’m just a “miserable prick” who finds you off putting. Sock puppets are when you you post on your site as “Windy” (although I’m sure that there is a reason why you chose that nom de plume) or “Bruiser”, or “Woody Held” when you drop by Todds.
I am now and remain “fish”…or “pesce” when we chat in Italian.

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Gregory

14 July 2014

Fish, one of my spies did catch Pelline in one of his fine dining moments. Another great photo-op
http://tinyurl.com/mj5ngh4

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fish

14 July 2014

Tough to go wrong with Mr. Creosote!
and about that Climate Activist?
Wow… Jeff Pelline, everything you know about me is from that loon of a climate activist Anna Haynes (who, when asked what temperature was could not respond with anything besides ‘it’s the number on a thermometer’)
I heard when queried about what was the capital of Texas she responded….’T‘.

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2014

Well, Gerry Fedor has emerged again! Welcome back Gerry. Now, your investigative skills are still rusty my good fellow. Once again, I don’t live in town….or any friggin town. Yes, you checked the voter records and found a Tozer in town. Congrats. If your ears were as big as your stupidity, I would have to call you Dumbo.
Not only did you find a Tozer in town you still are unable to find me. Check the phone book, check the voter records, but have you checked the tax records you big Dumbo you?
I have dropped clues before about where to find my properties around the state. But, nooooo, you just can’t do some real journalistic inquiry now can you? Oh, Gerry, Gerry, Gerry, what are we to do with you?
BTW, Mr. Gerry Fedor, it took me all of 2 minutes to find your corner lot. Nice place I might add with great landscaping and well manicured lawns. Exactly how I envisioned it, and yes, I pissed on your front lawn in broad daylight. Sorry, couldn’t help myself and I had no witnesses anyway so it wasn’t that much fun, Mr. Sock Puppet Fedor.
Besides, it is kinda hard to live in town on a 10 acre parcel. Another clue for you. And I pay taxes to the Gateway Park District and don’t have a Penn Valley, Grass Valley nor Rough and Ready zip code. More clues you rascally sock puppet you, your Lardness. Just check out the Trust I set up for the girls and you might be surprised that a dumbie like me knows what he is taking about.
Pick on me all you want cause I love watching you piss all over yourself and becoming known as Rusty Zipper.
When a man is holding all the trump cards, he don’t need to be defended, but thanks anyway Mr. Fish. Oh, I just love scavenger hunts! Gerry, oh Gerry, I am right over here. No, over here. Getting warmer, getting warmer, come closer now and look out your window, you funny man you.

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fish

14 July 2014

Gerry too huh?
It’s psychological projection all the way down eh jeffy?

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Jeff Pelline

14 July 2014

Gregory,
Are you drinking tonight? $42K? Sure, if you say so. What a maroon.
Anyway, as for the Park, it needs a better policy to balance the rights of hard-right political activists with the rights of people who want to enjoy the park for all its amenities.
I’ve got to finish up some work now. Goodnight.

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2014

Pull them drapes. You never know what foul creature of the night is pissing on your front yard. Sweet dreamies, Mr. Fedor.

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fish

14 July 2014

Anyway, as for the Park, it needs a better policy to balance the rights of hard-right political activists with the rights of people who want to enjoy the park for all its amenities.
And in the end the truth is revealed.
If it weren’t the Tea Party you wouldn’t have uttered a word. No harassment…nobody stuck pamphlets in your face, or shook you down for a donation…..just pure ideologically driven partisan animus wrapped in a cloak of high minded public goodness.
So that makes you….a….starts with an “L”….means one who has difficulty with relating the truth to others….. four letters…….ends with the letter “R”……rhymes with “fire”.

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Jeff Pelline

14 July 2014

Bill,
I don’t think Lucy’s 5 cent psychiatric booth could do much for you. But I will include you in my book “The State of Jefferson.”

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fish

14 July 2014

But I will include you in my book “The State of Jefferson.”
Well I’m sure it will be glossy and just be filled with lots of photos!

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Gregory

14 July 2014

Fish, I’ll have to remember that one myself, though I’ll assume it’s more akin to my Creosote link. But Anna really had been passing herself off as a scientist and authority on climate change, and Pelline had been promoting her as the go-to scientific authority in Nevada County on climate change… but in reality, she has admitted to not ever taking a class in physics, not in high school, not at Cal, not at Harvard.
Had she decided to study biology at my alma mater, she’d have ended her sophomore year having taken nearly as much physics as the physics majors (in the same classes), as much chemistry as the chemists, as much math as the mathematicians, as much engineering as the engineers and they all would have taken as much biology as she had. All the while taking as many hours in the humanities as most majors in the humanities. In fact, her minor would have been required to be in one of the humanities.
And she would very definitely known what temperature was.

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Gregory

14 July 2014

Here you go, Jeff.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-staff-writer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,13_IM759_KO14,26.htm
But wait, there’s more!
http://www.salaryexpert.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=browse.staff-writer-salary-data-details&cityid=300&positionid=35132

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Jeff Pelline

14 July 2014

Sure, Greg, if you say so. ROFLMAO. I’ve got to finish up some other work before I go to bed. Good night.

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fish

14 July 2014

Hey jeffy…..how is that you found yourself able to live the life a country gentleman? With a publishing hobby to boot. IPO money…..I mean we’ve plumbed the depths of your unpleasant little soul this evening…I have a guess……but I remain unsure?
C’mon be a sport….You married into money? You’re really a secret agent? How do you manage the country life and the Tahoe getaway on $42K a year.
Well 42K ish…since I don’t believe you employed any longer?
You tell me the truth and I’ll dial it back a notch.

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fish

14 July 2014

…. but in reality, she has admitted to not ever taking a class in physics.
This deficiency seems to be a requirement to be a Klimate Kampaigner these days. The ability to believe anything with no grounding in…well anything.

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Gregory

14 July 2014

I suspect Jeff did well selling his parent’s house in Berkeley.
BTW, by the same survey sites, editors don’t make much more than staff writers do. Why? There are plenty of underemployed journalism and various flavors of English majors out there.

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Bill Tozer

14 July 2014

oh boys, I never judge a man on how much money he makes. I have known millionaires that have ended up living in their cars and rose again but to a more modest level of income. Split the difference. I have been the epitome of being broke and have entered parties walking in on the red carpet with Entertainment Tonight filming the entrance but not allowed inside. Them were wild days of Wild Bill and coke and a young starlet from Paris on the arm. But, if you are going to play, you are going to pay.
I wouldn’t trade one day of then with a week of now for all the tea in China. Now I am just a simple hick with a tick from them thar hills. A country bumpkin if you prefer.
But the way, Mr. Fedor, my name has already been used as the name of a bit character in some B movie called “Up the Creek” or something like that many moons ago. I was sleeping with some sweet young Jewish thing with large pendulous breasts and her boyfriend writer was having a hard time coming up with a name for one of the backwoods characters of the movie he was writing and co-producing.. She suggested Bill Tozer for the character’s name so I have already had my 5 minutes of fame. Never seen the flick, but I chalk it up to being deep in the right place at the right time.
Always wondered what kind of hooters Lucy developed after moving on from Lucy’s 5 cent psychiatric booth.

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Jeff Pelline

14 July 2014

Gregory,
My parent’s never had a house in Berkeley. To quote Bugs Bunny, what a maroon!

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2014

Honestly I do believe Pelline is touched. He has decided long ago he likes nothing and no one in the town and county he choose to move to. Next thing he will be doing is offering his sail boat for a homeless shelter. Oops, he did. How many chaps stayed in your boat? Oh, none. That’s right, “good intentions” are all the nutty libs have. And did you get a permit to use the boat in your yard? Too funny.

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Todd Juvinall

14 July 2014

Oh an the Anna Haynes babe. She came by CABPRO many times and left notes on the door trying to get a tax form that is not required by the feds. She left numerous messages on the answering machine. She is way out there in the ozones. And she is Pelline’s bosom buddy! She posts our blogs as a link on her website under “slimate deniers”. Too funny. But regardless, I get many more people looking at my lowly blog then Pelline does on his so all is good.

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Barry Pruett

14 July 2014

No the house was in Marin. Summary: Jeff Pelline is an elitist. He spent the evening bragging about money, making fun of people that did not go to “elite” colleges, and trashing the Constitution. Tonight, you have seen everything you need to know about *eff Pelline. My dad worked in a steel mill, and I went to normal college. From that background, some of the most intelligent people that I have ever met did not go to college, while some of the most ignorant and obtuse (those who tink that they are smarter than everyone) perhaps were unwarrantedly told too often that they were better than everyone else. Anyone who even suggests what Pelline has suggested here (censorship by a government agency) should roundly ignored…no pun intended. Meeting is Wednesday Jeffie. See you there.

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George Rebane

14 July 2014

Good morning all. Well, this has been quite conversation with Mr Pelline. In review I noted that in his 1223am he appeared to summarize his problem with certain people using Western Gateway, to wit – “Anyway, as for the Park, it needs a better policy to balance the rights of hard-right political activists with the rights of people who want to enjoy the park for all its amenities.” It seems to be a matter of unbalanced rights. But again the missing part of his argument seems to be substance. Nowhere has he or anyone else made the case that anyone’s rights have been denied or diminished; yet again it appears to be a baseless charge. I stand on my Alinsky assessment.
As for the rest of it, I have no idea why he has put himself through this desperate mud fight. BTW, besides being confused or obtuse about the matter of public park usage, he also does not seem to understand salutations and their proper usage when showing respect/recognition to someone’s academic credentials. I don’t know whether it’s only ignorance or just another opportunity for derision.
Nevertheless, Mr Tozer was right, this sandbox is now overfull with an exchange that has, at least to me, become tiresome. Maybe a fresh one will motivate a broader range of topics.

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Barry Pruett

14 July 2014

Fuuny story. On my first day of law school, the assistant dean did some math for the new students. He proceeded to show the rarity of a person getting into law school and then told the students that they were “an elite member of society.” I thought that he was an idiot and hoped that the kids in the room did not actually believe him. Elite? Book smart is not elite. That type of talk tends to give people a highly inflated view of self. I think that Cal and Northwestern went to Jeffies head. Possibly as an only child his parents told him how great he was all the time and he actually believes it. Note to Jeff: I am no different than a construction worker, I just have a different toolbox. You are not either. There is something to be said about being humble and respectful. Elitism is certainly a huge problem in our society. They want to tell everyone what to do because “I am smarter and I know better.” That is how dictatorships start…read no Constitution and no liberty. Thabks Jeff. See you on Wednesday!

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