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118 responses to “Sandbox – 29jun14”
So FUE, tell us all here. Why were you booted from the Ubion? We have heard you were quite a jerk with the locals and there were a lot of complaints about you. Is that the case? Your tenure there was pretty short. Was it your attitude about denigrating the locals?
Also, CABPRO is now 21 years old and still going. Frustrating libs like you on a daily basis. O am very proud they are. Yell us FUE, what special things have you created that are helping the human race do better? Inquiring minds really don’t care about you, but hey, eht the heck You and Reinette can raise worms. LOL!
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Since I seem to be the cause de jour of the current foothills report/RR scuffle I will add this to the cauldron. The personal attacks, issues, and grudges are better suited for an elementary school playground than blogs that attempt to hold discussions about important and/or relevant/interesting topics. I made reference a few days ago to sharks on a feeding frenzy and Fish ask for more specific information.. The last series of posts on the SoJ thread is a classic example. The longer it goes on the more vicious it gets, and mostly about nothing of particular importance or significance. It just shows how divided our country has been manipulated into becoming. One can only hope the division finds a way to heal because the path we are currently on leads to disaster and no viable solutions ever come from drawing lines in the sand and digging in. Our system is designed to create compromise which doesn’t really work.. it is a half-assed approach. We need consensus solutions to solve our problems and that can’t happen when the participants are separated by the Grand Canyon. Having said that, the feeding frenzies are pretty funny to read. great entertainment.
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JoeK 535pm – all too true Joe as we have been observing since RR’s launch. However, there is no “scuffle” between RR and any other blog, unless, of course, it takes one to scuffle. I cannot say that about other blogs and RR readers who are free to visit any sites they choose and express their views when commenting here.
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Todd,
I’ve already explained that:
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2012/10/07/my-experience-at-the-union-newspaper/
I’m more interested in hearing why you name is on this list. As a former supervisor, you should be setting examples for the rest of us:
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
What’s up dude?
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Agree with Joe Koyote. There are much better things to chat about that one solitary man. I won’t give him the power. He knows he can pop over here, kick the hornet’s nest and get the last laugh. True to form. At least he is consistent.
I once became self employed cause no one would hire me in a particular neck of the woods. Slim pickins anyhow. Nothing wrong with taking control of one’s life. See, I can be nice.
If you guys would stop popping over to Mr. Pelline’s blog and run back here to tell Mommie and Daddy all the nasty things said about us, then there would be no problem. We are turning into a bunch of old hens in a gossip fest. Yes, I will still refer to the unmentioned soul as Fattis Maxius because if one is going to play the Emperor, then the title fits.
To each his own. Blogging about issues does or does not have to be competitive sport, but it sure is fun when the gloves come off and it gets personal….for awhile. Think I am done kicking the dead horse.
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Jeff I’d be careful with your assumptions. Sort of like someone saying you were fired for cause at the Union. I think the county residents need a full disclosure from you on the reasons. Tell the truth, get it off our chest. I know you want to.
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Oh and the link to your story with the socalled explanation is pure fiction and you know. Lipstick on a pig. The community deserves your honesty not your stories.
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I wouldn’t sweat it Todd…although jeffys list is a regular rogues gallery!
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and who could ignore….except jeffy….the biggest scofflaw of them all??
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Shit Todd….just one entry on the list?? It’s like you’re not even trying!
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Todd,
To repeat:
I’ve already explained that:
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2012/10/07/my-experience-at-the-union-newspaper/
I’m more interested in hearing why you name is on this list. As a former supervisor, you should be setting examples for the rest of us:
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
What’s up dude?
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SAND……..IS GOOD!
http://memegenerator.net/instance/51854797
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“Fish,” You’re dodging the question. Why is Todd’s name on this list: http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
Todd is a former county supervisor.
Good night.
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Pelline, please tell us the truth why you are really not at the Union. You dodge the question and then try an double down. You see FUE, I really don’t care what you print about me. You cannot rile me. What the community wants to know is why as some say, you were fired for cause from the paper. What did you do? Would what you did, if you did it, a arrestable offense? Please fess up an let it out. We all know you want us to know the truth.You were given a very trusted place in the community FUE and I am surprised that you try and obfuscate it. The Editor of our newspaper is an important and trusted position. I personally have never been fired from a trusted position. Can you tell now and release your guilt? What a hoot!!
Fish, that is too funny. The Government owes all that money! Too funny!
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Todd,
I have answered your question. It is easily proven. But you have not answered mine: Why is one of our former county supervisors a deadbeat taxpayer?
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
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“Fish,” You’re dodging the question. Why is Todd’s name on this list: http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
Todd is a former county supervisor.
Good night.
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 09:19 PM
I have no idea why Todd is on the list and I don’t particularly care!
Do you?
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Do suffer from a character defect that requires guidance from Todd?
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“Fish,” Do you condone this?
http://nctax.spiralisp.net/index_new.php?sapn=35-270-66-000%20&Submit=Search&MM_submit=ok&test=
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http://memegenerator.net/instance/51857174
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Shoot howdy, that is a long long long list. Interesting names. A lot of folks falling behind. Saw a Titman on the list….do not know the person, but I can only imagine he had a rough time in 2nd and 3rd grades.
Filing bankruptcy or falling behind happens to a lot better people than I. Honest Abe comes to mind and was it Hoover that died a pauper? Mark Twain had to go on his speaking tour to cover his debts just to make some dough ASAP cause he was insolvent. Not a criminal act. Heck, even Bubba and Mrs. Rodham left the Oval Office penniless (according to her recent truthful statements)and unable to pay their massive debt incurred for legal fees and Willy getting disbarred from the Arkansas State Bar and all. They were broke and unable to pay their bills. That is probably why Mrs. Rodman took the furniture and some dishes and even tried to take the drapes before she got caught. The drapes stayed with claw marks on them.
Ok, who has the biggest toys and abode? There are some things money can’t buy, like character and a good reputation. The aforementioned traits are worth more than gold. And if one is really really fortunate, he will have one, maybe 2 good real close friends in life, not just acquaintances. Seem to recall someone was quoted recently saying “what you sow is what you reap.”
I still owe my Dad 300 clams, but he passed away so I am in debt forever and ever, Amen.
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Do suffer from a character defect that requires guidance from Todd?
http://memegenerator.net/instance/51857351
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There are some things money can’t buy, like character and a good reputation.
So you’re saying I screwed even if I have money!? Thanks Mr. Ray of Sunshine!
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These were lifted from the comments stream of my SoJ post. They belong here.
Welcome Mr. Koyote. You really know how to hurt a guy. Comparing Fattis Maximus’s rants about his former employer who fired his sorry gluteus maximus to us clamoring about Benghazi is like telling a comedian he ain’t funny. Heard his new boss is a Class A anal cavity. Self employed now, is he not?
Don’t forget to take yer blood thinners. I will be taking mine so we have a level playing field.
Enjoyed Ms. Patty’s link. We are a Republic. Our founders knew of the whims and passing passions of the majority. Suppose that is why each state, no matter how small and rural (sparsely populated) has 2 Senators. Nice civics review.
A new state would be an long strenuous uphill battle as Dr. Rebane overtly conceded. Just glance towards Puerto Rico.
I for one will not be the first to darken the new sandbox. Just like being sociably late for a party.
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 June 2014 at 11:16 AM
Gregory
“I compared Pelline’s rants about The Union to conservative rants about Benghazi. That is what put him over the edge.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage
Posted by: Gregory | 29 June 2014 at 12:13 PM
JeffPelline
Huh? Dave Iorns said this about Joe Koyote, not me.
“Dear Koyote
It seems to me that all those people, you claim, who feel the same way French does, also have the right to speak their mind. The problem is I don’t see them doing so. I for one admire the fortitude and the guts that Reinette continues to show regards her beliefs. By the way WTF does Benghazi have to do with terrazzo Lights??? Do you always have such a tough time sticking to the issues at hand? Why don’t all you hysterical/ historical folks let the majority of the public decide this issue!
-Dave Iorns”
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 12:30 PM
RL Crabb
Jeff Pelline – comments directed to one Joe Koyote – 6/25/14 8:01am – “Maybe you should give this blog a rest. I think you’d be happier.”
Another tall tale from the “journalist”.
Posted by: RL Crabb | 29 June 2014 at 01:14 PM
fish
Sorry Greg…you couldn’t be more wrong!
Narcissistic rage…..HAH!
http://memegenerator.net/instance/51839038
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 01:23 PM
Todd Juvinall
My goodness, the FUE gets around doesn’t he? Seeking out those scofflaws who talk about him. Defending Reinette for what? A worm farm fiasco that cost the taxpayers 80 grand for nothing? My goodness, if ever there was a buffoon here in our little burg, it is the FUE. Now it is lights that never existed during those gold rush days? Hell you can’t change a window but the town can light the place up? What a joke.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 01:26 PM
John
JP has his FUEdar on at all times searching for a reference to HIMSELF! Must be boring.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 01:34 PM
Todd Juvinall
Eat, crap and search. Yep, boring! Too funny!
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 01:37 PM
JeffPelline
A “tall tale.”? Huh? The issue was correcting the misstatement about who made the reference to “conservative rants about Benghazi.”
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 02:10 PM
Gregory
Jeff,
Maybe you should give this blog a rest. I think you’d be happier.
Perhaps someone can point out the numbers showing increased economic activity in the area due to Ms. Senum’s efforts, or is just being seen doing something as important as actually getting something of actual value done? Her lifestyle work is very nice, but you can’t pay retiring city employees their pensions on the cash generated by the Farmer’s Markets, and the oversized dog houses for the homeless have not been a big hit.
Posted by: Gregory | 29 June 2014 at 02:22 PM
John
And the only entity that made any money on the worm farm was RS.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 02:27 PM
Bill Tozer
Perhaps Fattis the Phew would be happier back in his own playground. Maybe he should give this blog a rest. Hope he don’t stink up Dr. Rebane’s nice new clean sandbox or leave some land mines half buried in the sand. Oh, I suppose we could have Walt get in there with some heavy equipment to lift those Lincoln Logs out.
Isn’t it pass somebody’s dinner time? Thought I heard Jo Mama calling. Peace out bro, dig your fro.
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 June 2014 at 02:30 PM
Todd Juvinall
Actually I think we should invite the FUE here often. He truly is a comedy relief. His views of the 1% he is a part of are necessary for us, the great unwashed, to better understand him.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 02:32 PM
Bill Tozer
Having an award winning journalist could increase this lowly blog’s prestige. But the victim mentality does not last long here.
Poster’s note: This is completely on topic. We were discussing the possibility of a 51st State, were we not?
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 June 2014 at 02:43 PM
fish
I’d rather jeffy address us directly as here well. I don’t mind the “correspondence chess” commenting game but if he drops by we’ll surely save everybodies valuable time!
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 02:45 PM
JeffPelline
I have no interest in commenting here; only to correct your misstatements.
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 02:46 PM
John
JP, if everybody here went to your cesspool to correct your misstatements you might have some real traffic for a change.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 02:50 PM
fish
I have no interest in commenting here; only to correct your misstatements.
Well…off you go then!
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 02:52 PM
JeffPelline
Opps I find myself talking to a “John” and a “fish.” Time to exit the Star Wars bar.
Many thanks for allowing me to correct the record, and your apologies are accepted.
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 03:03 PM
JeffPelline
I mean “Oops.”
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 03:04 PM
John
Yes, back to the safety of home base where no dissent is allowed, and everyone posts their full and correct name. Except for your own sock puppets, Gloria Zane, etal. And the pompous hypocrite exits, stage hard left.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 03:29 PM
fish
Many thanks for allowing me to correct the record, and your apologies are accepted.
BURN……!
/kelso
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 03:31 PM
Todd Juvinall
John, now thaat’s funny!
I think the “Star Wars” bar scene was fantastic. What a place of diversity! You like diversity right FUE? (you 1%er) I know your three or four posters like diversity, well, they say they do but really have none in theire own businesses and rent seeking endeavors. Like theFrisch and MichaelkA. You know, those champions of multi-culturalism! Too funny. So, yes, we here on the conservative blogs practice what we preach, we are the true champions of that which you liberal nuts preach. What a hoot!
Now, go back to the mediocrity of the FUE nlog.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 03:36 PM
JeffPelline
Todd,
CJ Bryant of the Tea Party and Bundy follower Weldon Travis comment on my blog. They are civil. “John,” are you really a “Freeman”? Now that would be a twist to the Star Wars bar theme.
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 03:49 PM
Todd Juvinall
FUE, you think everyone is stupid apparently. We know you ripped Travis and CJ some new ones on your blog. You are simply a joke when it comes to telling the truth. Oh, and thanks, I am the wookie, koo koo ca choo.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 03:52 PM
John
Nothing uncivil being said here JP. Yes, I am free, pretty close to completely. How about you?
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 03:55 PM
JeffPelline
Todd,
No, I only rip on hypocrites who are deadbeat taxpayers masquerading as “good people” whose favorite books is “the bible.” Travis, CJ and I have had some good conversations on my blog.
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 03:59 PM
JeffPelline
John,
Civil? Do you read the threads? BTW, the word is that you’re a “soverign citizen,” AKA “freeman.” What’s that like?
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 04:04 PM
Todd Juvinall
FUE, gosh I have never been booted from a job, how about you? You know you are the laughingstock of tyhe community don’t you? A silver spooner hypocrite? Too funny! We read your rips of them, you can stop luying.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 04:07 PM
JeffPelline
Todd,
Wait a minute: How about that short-lived comeback as CABPRO’s ED. That was the shortest tenure I ever heard of. LOL.
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2012/01/07/can-todd-juvinall-grow-cabpro-with-mudslinging-or-intelligent-dialogue/
BTW, I’m doing great. Happy as I’ve ever been in my western Nevada County “lifetime.” Didn’t have to move to Roseberg. Paying all my bills, and going to Italy on vacation. And I can even spell “lying.”
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 04:19 PM
John
jp, for an award winning journalist, and a former editor of a respected community newspaper, your spelling skills need some help. Or maybe it is your editing skills. I’m not sure about your question, or why you would use quotation marks around the word free man. Is that some kind of a slur you are directing at me? I don’t owe anyone anything, and it is a pretty good place to be. How about you? Are you free? Do you need some help getting there?
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 04:20 PM
JeffPelline
John,
Come on. Don’t dance around the question. Just confirm what your friends tell me about you: You’re a bonafide “freeman” and “sovereign citizen.” What’s that like?
Posted by: JeffPelline | 29 June 2014 at 04:24 PM
Russ Steele
George created a new Sand Box, why are all these unless posts on this thread?
Posted by: Russ Steele | 29 June 2014 at 04:27 PM
John
Not sure what friends you are referring to jp, you might have the wrong John. I seriously that any of my friends would ever speak to you, about anything.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 04:38 PM
John
I seriously doubt that any of my friends would ever speak to you.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 04:40 PM
Todd Juvinall
You are right Russ, I’ll move over to the sandbox.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 05:06 PM
fish
Civil? Do you read the threads? BTW, the word is that you’re a “soverign citizen,” AKA “freeman.” What’s that like?
It’s probably not much more than not being a mindless suck up to the status quo.
But hey…your mileage may vary.
http://memegenerator.net/instance/51848024
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 05:32 PM
Barry Pruett
On the former Union editor’s blog, the meaning of the word “civil” is “you agree with me.” Disagree with the FUE and you are “uncivil.” Get it?
Posted by: Barry Pruett | 29 June 2014 at 06:03 PM
George Rebane
Damn! I take a day off and go sightseeing with my bride here in the mountains, and when I come back …
Let’s keep this crap in the sandbox, PLEASE!
Posted by: George Rebane | 29 June 2014 at 06:27 PM
Jeff Pelline
George,
You lost control of your blog. Again.
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 07:40 PM
Jeff Pelline
Barry,
Hope you’re having a great summer, though it doesn’t sound like it. You’re still grinding your axes at the Rebane blog. Wanna go sailing?
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 07:41 PM
Todd Juvinall
Jedd I’d be careful with your assumptions. Sort of like someone saying you were fired for cause at the Union. I think the county residents need a full disclosure from you on the reasons. Tell the truth, get it off our chest. I know you want to.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 08:16 PM
John
jp clearly doesn’t get that there are multiple people named John who think that he is a pompous fool.
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 08:21 PM
Jeff Pelline
Todd,
I’ve already explained that:
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2012/10/07/my-experience-at-the-union-newspaper/
I’m more interested in hearing why you name is on this list. As a former supervisor, you should be setting examples for the rest of us:
http://www.mynevadacounty.com/nc/ttc/docs/AB_DELQ_WEB.pdf
What’s up dude?
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 08:55 PM
John
pelline, what kind of an ahole stunt is that? How many lists do you think you are on? What was the last job you were fired from? How many people think you are the most hated person in Nevada County? Do you know what your family really think about you? Do you really want to play this game?
Posted by: John | 29 June 2014 at 09:06 PM
Jeff Pelline
“John,”
I’m thriving, thank you. Time for “Mrs. John” to tuck you into bed. Nighty night.
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 09:12 PM
Todd Juvinall
John, now you see why no one in rthe county (except for a few whackos) likes the guy. What a hoot!
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 09:24 PM
Bill Tozer
John, its a Bozo no-no to mention anther’s family. Penalty, hitting below the belt. 3 minutes in the penalty box.
Now, to change the subject. Both sides of the aisle are represented.
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Alright, 3 minutes are over. Carry on.
Even talk about the State Of George Jefferson is because rural counties are not be listened to, their concerns not addressed, nor even taken half way seriously. They act like we are the senile Grandpa sitting at the dinner table who is to be politely acknowledged for amusement’s sake but never taken seriously.
It is not just a CA or Colorada thing. Read blogs from Illinois and its the same thing. The Twin cities, Chicago, Denver, Sackofpotatoes are dirty words. No love for Capital Cities. Majority rules and all that stuff. If Jerry Brown and the state legislatures from the urban jungles wanted to build a bridge all the way to Japan, we have NO say.
Posted by: Bill Tozer | 29 June 2014 at 09:24 PM
Michael Anderson
Hey Todd, please go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Michael Anderson | 29 June 2014 at 09:39 PM
Jeff Pelline
Todd,
According to public records, you own “We the people” of Nevada County more than $3,600. When will you pay up? It’s time for the County to clamp down on this. All told, we could use the money.
Many thanks in advance for your check,
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 09:46 PM
Jeff Pelline
BTW, the details are here:
http://nctax.spiralisp.net/index_new.php?sapn=35-270-66-000%20&Submit=Search&MM_submit=ok&test=
Posted by: Jeff Pelline | 29 June 2014 at 09:48 PM
fish
Hey Todd, please go fuck yourself.
Welcome back Michael!
Posted by: fish | 29 June 2014 at 10:01 PM
Todd Juvinall
Hey I see the Burning Man perv is back! Welcome back!
Pelline, sorry charlie, I heard you are a tax scofflaw, is that true? Or just a good accountant? I know your pal SteveF owed $250,000 of his employees taxes and you kiss his butt. LOL! This is cracking me up.
So FUE, why were you booted from the Union as we have heard? What was the reason. Should women and children be afraid? Too funny.
Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 29 June 2014 at 10:12 PM
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The EPA and the economy:
“EPA is recklessly rushing ahead,” said Texas Republican Rep. Lamar Smith. “In this proposal, the EPA disregarded the law requiring independent scientific review; silenced its scientific advisors; denied review of carbon storage science; and adopted an energy policy that ignores technical and practical realities.”
“The NSPS fundamentally obscures the state of technology and rejects sound energy policy. In so doing, the EPA displays a striking disregard for the law and scientific integrity, while jeopardizing our nation’s future,” Smith said.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/09/podesta-undermines-obamas-climate-agenda/
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George: I must commend you on the creation of the Sandbox. Very good idea for keeping the random comments in place. Sorry about getting “out of line,” and in an effort to change the subject from the all knowing all powerful, what is going to happen with the Hobby Lobby case today?
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Looks like the Supreme Court is brining law and order back from the depths. The recent Supreme Court rulings against the lawless dictatorial regime of Obama are a welcomed sight for these tired eyes.
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Barry,
The ruling was 5-4.
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“I Hear a Symphony” was the title of The Supremes’ hit back in the day.
Slammed the unions in Illinois for being forced to pay union dues for looking after chronically ill family members as well.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/30/supreme-court-rules-against-unions-in-home-healthcare-worker-case/
But most telling to me was the 9-0 decision that the Senate is on recess when they say they are on recesses, not another branch of government, aka, Obama. Surprising is the most liberal judges on the court wrote the opinion in a scathing tone.
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Yes. 5-4 ruling and the Supreme Court keeps protecting liberty as the lawless regime keeps attempting to take away liberty. I am in a good mood today…sitting by the pool and reading. With love, Barry from Orlando, Florida.
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That SCOTUS is beginning to acknowledge Obama’s overreach is already a victory as this president has acted like a central American tinpot to the fawning approval of his base. I think that given its make up SCOTUS will have closer splits as it rules on issues involving specific legislation that extends the scope and reach of government in general. This as opposed to adjudicating contentions between the branches. I am looking forward to the House suit against the president.
Meanwhile, Obama continues to endear himself to us by loudly repeating the lie that Repubs in Congress are the reason for gridlock when ol’ Harry has not even brought to the floor of the Senate over 200 bills that the House has sent it. (And no lamestream outlet, including local ones, make any mention of that as the pillory conservatives.) I guess by liberal standards, gridlock only works one way.
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Opps, misstatement as if anyone cares. Unions were forcing FAMILY members caring for their loved ones union dues.
5-4 rulings are 100% of the law.
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Yes…unlike elections where a candidate can claim a “mandate,” all Supreme Court rulings are mandates regardless of the dissent.
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Even in elections all one needs is 50% plus one to change the direction. Anyone who claims a 5-4 is somehow diminimis is a screwball. As was said, a 5-4 is the same as a 100% decision.
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One thing I did learn about these decisions though. When the SCOTUS ruled that the “wetlands” wholly within a state were not subject to federal 404 permits because there was no “navigable waters” crossing interstate borders, the bureaucracies still found ways around the decision. They are paid big money to sit at desks and come up with all this crap. We need to reign that crap in.
Regarding the Kennedy opinion on this “rule” by Sebelius. I have always discussed and encouraged the legislatures to pass complete bills so there will be no interpretation and rules passed by the regulators without a vote and more importantly, understanding, of the laws passed. Kennedy made some sort of jab at the regulators on this.
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A 5-4 ruling along ideological lines is not anymore a “mandate” than a close vote in an election. The four voices still exist in the debate — and in the public’s mind. It is an ongoing dialogue. Many people had thought the vote would be “unanimous.”
Having said that, if the argument is truly “religious liberty,” then it is acceptable. How can you argue with that? On the other hand, there is the more pragmatic issue of companies that have to manage their health costs.
Either way, it would be incorrect to draw any broad conclusion about government “overreach,” except for rigid ideologues.
As the NYT reports: “The companies said they had no objection to other forms of contraception, including condoms, diaphragms, sponges, several kinds of birth control pills and sterilization surgery.
The Obama administration said it did not question the sincerity of the companies’ beliefs, and it has offered exemptions to other groups on such grounds.”
So in fact, both sides are open to compromise.
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It is only incorrect in your narrow liberal view. Over that past week, the Supreme Court has rebuked both Obama and liberal ideology. That must really bother you. Back to the sun…
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No, it doesn’t bother me, because my view is “middle of the road.” The Supreme Court also upheld same-sex marriage. It is a mixed bag. These Supreme Court rulings are about American culture; I don’t keep score as if it was a football game. That’s too simplistic. Hope you’re enjoying the humidity of Northern Florida in summertime; it’s gorgeous at the Lake.
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That over half the country and prestigious publications like The Economist and WSJ believing that there is rampant overreach by our governments – the federal and most states, especially California – will make them “rigid ideologues” is more of a commentary on the evident ideology of the commentator than what is happening in the real world.
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WTF Jeffy??? SCOTUS shot LIBism down in flames. The “argument” is over.
There is no more courts to drag it’s dead hide too.
Need rubbers? You have plenty of “choices” of where to buy them. Right down to the corner gas station.
Making one pay for contraception is a far cry from “blocking access”, or “denying” ones “right” to said product.
One thing is for sure. Lefty’s got their “wee-wee” whacked by the judges gavel. From making Sandra Flunky cry, to kicking unions in the “junk”. ( Put some ice on that.. It’s will be weeks before the Dr. can see you)
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George,
What happened to my response?
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Let me try again. George, Citing The Economist and WSJ to prove your point isn’t very persuasive. Walt, your language is colorful but you obviously have not read today’s ruling and do not understand the company’s position. “As the NYT reports: “The companies said they had no objection to other forms of contraception, including condoms, diaphragms, sponges, several kinds of birth control pills and sterilization surgery.”
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The SCOTUS remanded the homosexual issues back to the states. The did not rule it one way pr the other I believe.
Since the FUE exhibits in its finest form, partisan divide, it is fruitless to debate him. But you can all try. I simply see the 5-4 victory as a mandate of 100% regarding the laws decided. Any other view is meaningless.
The HobbyLobby decision was a victory for women and a defeat for the femi-nazis. Stay at home, true American values women are the victors since they are not going to be forced by the “gun” of government to pay for others abortions.
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“Todd the Polarizer” speaks out “We slayed you” on a 5-4 decision, and now he’s also a spokesman for women. “There’s something about an Aqua Velva man”!
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Jeff: Please. Citing the DailyKos as you do regularly is hardly compelling. Shoot it is downright laughable that you pawn it off as fact. Also, I applaud the marriage ruling. States should decide. That said, my personal opinion is that states should decide same-sex marriage is legal, but it is not up to me individually.
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Why thanks for the confirmation of my superiority to your noggin. I speak for women who talk to me and I listen carefully. You should try it with women and commenters. You may learn something. As far as polarization, you take the cake. I doubt you can debate one on one without steam coming from your collar and without calling the opposition a name. You are a hooT!
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Hmm. My response to Todd and Barry disappeared into the ethernet. Maybe George can fish it out. So much for “free speech.” LOL
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Barry,
For a lawyer, you depend a lot on hyperbole. But it doesn’t resonate with intelligent people. Maybe you’ve become too caught up in tea party talking points. Citing the WSJ, the bastion of hard right conservative views on its Op-Ed page, to prove a point about “government overreach” is not compelling. BTW, I rarely cite the Daily Kos if ever on my blog.
Todd,
You are the king of polarization, and you wear it on your sleeve by lording around on a narrow 5-4 Supreme Court decision.
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You cited the DailyKos this weekend! The WSJ is by far exponentially more credible to the DailyKos and the Huffington Post. Please Jeff. Go back to your sandbox where you moderate the commentary to fit your needs. You must be desperate following the liberal spanking in Nevada County and now the rise of conservative nationally. You will find no friends here and your rhetoric is exposed. The safety of your regulated sandbox is much better for you.
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“Narrow” or not. NO means NO.
Poor SEIU.. They can’t come after me for back union dues for taking care of my Mother. ( That was union work ONLY)
Maybe Jeffy has a problem with that too.
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Enjoy,, Barry,,, What’s the alcohol of choice on that coast?
Have one on me… Ya’ know I’m good for it.
It’s also fun to jab with a digital “pointy stick” long distance from the side of the hotel pool. ( A little challenging with a smart phone, with auto correct in play.)Now ” poke” away.
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FUE, Barry has it right on the mark. Since you arrived in Nevada County you have created a lot of partisan negativity and fighting. You are simply a narcissist looking for attention. This blog is for those that want to discuss solutions to pressing issues across the land and here in the county. You have been handily defeated locally and nationally and yet cannot accept it. Please seek help.
I have lived here most of my life and have many friends. From the left and the rght. I am well liked except by a few disgruntled lefties like you. I use that as a plus for me. Anyway, I feel truly sad for you, so much the lonely guy. Too funny!
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Walt: We are in Florida for our daughter’s national gymnastics championship. She competes on Wednesday, but we came here with a cadre of Nevada County residents (about 20) and rented a house! Great time with friends. Drink of choice…Corona and Margaritas…of course.
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