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Must be driving the morons nuts that Rebane’s Ruminants has been down all day due to what is reportedly a particularly virulent denial of service attack on Typepad.
How did you know typepad was down due to a DOS attack….back 4 or 5 times today? …and actually no….after reading your nonsense this weekend a little quiet was a refreshing palate cleanser.
….. as always LOL.
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Golly, I am awake already! Anyway, I enjoyed the peace and quiet since the moron Frisch was leaving us more intellectual types alone. LOL!
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Yo Dr. Rebane: Good to see you back in the saddle hell bent for leather.
Yo Walt: Dude, I can believe my eyes. I found an old clip of you back in the day. Beardless, clean shaven, and not even wearing your ever present brain bucket. Only a fine head of hair to protect your melon. I must confess that you without the helmet was odd, even odd for you back in yesteryear. It was your trademark then and now. When you get back from the Far West, check it out.
To the undiscriminating eye, our own Walt is in the background , stage right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc-AQJ2MYo
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Ah, but by 1978 Walt had donned his trademark helmut and was doing his patriotic duty recruiting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw
Welcome back morons.
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Welcome back morons.
Scurry back and gaze adoringly at piggius maximus.
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Mr. Stevenfrish. Oh, I feel the love. Finally proof that you and I are racists. The Village People are racists, didn’t you know that, pinko? And to play their songs makes us in the racists camp. No worries, most of the 70’s children were racists dancing to YMCA. Is tomorrow hump day? Gotta love the unspoken rules we break. The only thing pinkos are tolerate of is intolerance. Feeling the love.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3574172073001/hump-day-under-fire-from-pc-police/#sp=show-clips
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Welcome back morons.
I can feel your contempt Steven. I hope you are having a good day
Russ
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I see the tax evader is namecalling again from the ratified air of the east. Too funny!
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Hey, Fish brought it up. He doesn’t have to go anywhere but here, and if he does he doesn’t have to bring what he finds back if he doesn’t want to.
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I enjoyed Greg Goodnight’s piece on Star Testing. Upon reading it I mentioned it to my daughter who is a junior at Bear River. She basically said Duh.., No one cares about it and little effort and importance our placed toward it.. no one takes it seriously. These motivations or lack there of seem to come from those giving the test. Why just the opposite is not happening is anyone’s guess.
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Whoops.. Sorry for my lack of detail. Meant to place my previous comment on the next thread.. Gregory on Ruminations 20May14.
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There has always been ambivalence to testing by students and no reason to think Bear River students are less engaged on those tests than elsewhere.
The article was about the API/SimilarSchools derived from STAR testing. For STAR results, here’s the last Bear River report:
http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2013/ViewReport.aspx?ps=true&lstTestYear=2013&lstTestType=C&lstCounty=29&lstDistrict=66357-000&lstSchool=2930048&lstGroup=1&lstSubGroup=1
76% are below Proficient in Algebra II. 71% below Proficient in Geometry. 75% below Proficient in Algebra 1.
Bear River has been weak for years; they were a “CPM” (misnamed:College Preparatory Math, originally a remedial math program from Davis) whole math school 14 years ago and never really grew out of it.
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Testing the idea the Bear River kids were just not taking it seriously… they did pretty well on the language side, with all doing well on their grade level English… only 18% below Proficient for the 9th graders.
Picking another math result … of the 118 kids who took Algebra II… only two tested as Advanced. A full 117 kids took Algebra 1… and only one (1) tested as Advanced. Those are worse than third world results.
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Greg,
You do realize that k-12 is much much more than proficiency in math or any one subject, correct? All around are the students at Bear River proficient at being decent humans beings? Teaching students to follow their passion and to critically think are the way the US will begin to start competing in education once again internationally, not standardized testing. If a person is passionate they will dive in and want to learn as much as possible without positive or negative reinforcement. Your passion seems to be math and that is great for you or my son who is double majoring in Math/ Economics but for my nephew who can give a shit about math forcing him to meet some proficiency of some uptight math geek is a sure fire way of turning him off for learning the essentials of mathematics for life skills. It is about nurturing and giving the tools to be a productive participant in society not a number on a spread sheet or a mindless obedient worker. That is 19th/ 20th century mentality. That mentality is holding our education system hostage and back to meeting the full potential of our future generations.
I don’t or won’t try to debate you on your Union piece because it seems to be well thought out and researched but will challenge the mentality from which you tackled the subject. It sounds like you have been a positive role model in Nevada County when it comes to the advancement of mathematics and I applaud people who roll up their sleeves and participate in future generations. The same goes for the Sierra Economic and Science Foundation and their techtest/ techtest jr.
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“All around are the students at Bear River proficient at being decent humans (sic) beings?”
We might as well stop formal education at the 6th grade if that’s the standard; that’s the focus in Kindergarten. What kind of parents send their kids to Bear River High School?
In percents:
Not a high school graduate 1
High school graduate 12
Some college 34
College graduate 32
Graduate school 22
Given 54% are college graduates, and around 88% have attended college, I’m going to go out on a limb and guess the parents of BRHS students expect their children with the ability and drive to be able to graduate with the ability to attend a CSU or UC and get a bloody bachelor’s degree.
It is possible to graduate from BRHS able to complete a university degree in 4 years but the odds are not great.
Nice kids isn’t the reason that, in round numbers, the people of Nevada County pay out on the order of $10K a year per kid so they can attend a school like Bear River. It’s to get an education.
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“Teaching students to follow their passion and to critically think are the way the US will begin to start competing in education once again internationally”
Congratulations, Ben, you have learned modern Ed speak. Completely meaningless, empty rhetoric. No, standardized testing doesn’t teach anything, but it does point out which schools are managing to teach the subjects being tested, and it gives competent schools an idea what kids know. A competent school needs little testing. For example, the Pleasant Ridge district started using Mathland at the same time as the adjacent GVSD, but Pleasant Ridge, after a month, ripped all the tubs of Mathland manipulatives (ed-speak for toys), calculators and coloring books and sent them back. As a stopgap, they used old books until they decided the Saxon books would do.
When STAR testing began a couple years later, no one had been “teaching to the test”, yet all the Pleasant Ridge kids were above average while among GVSD kids, half were in the bottom 25%. Competent vs. Incompetent. It took a few more years for the GVSD to change to the Saxon books.
Now, back in ’95, Saxon Publishing was offering a classroom’s worth of free books for each grade for piloting, with one and only one catch… they wanted kids given a standardized test to start (whichever the school wanted) and the same test at the end, with the results to be made public. I was in contact with John Saxon’s office (phone tag, I did mange to talk to his secretary) and asked Linda Brown, Byerrum’s Assistant Stuperintendent about the possibility and she reacted like Dracula to a silver cross… “That’s just drill and kill. The (whole math) NCTM Standards are the key”.
They went to Saxon eventually, but not before damaging a generation or so of kids passing through.
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Greg,
No, what I am communicating is a different approach other than an antiquated education model that you seem to be stuck on. Let me ask you Greg, did you play sports or participate in performing arts in high school? If no, what if you were forced to play a sport or participate in a play that you didn’t particularly want to participate in. Would you have really gone in with a great attitude ready to absorb everything like a sponge or would have have gritted your teeth and got through it by doing the minimum required? There is a place for higher science/ math/ english but not everybody is interested in going to college or pursuing those subjects at advanced levels. As our blue collar manufacturing has left the country so has the ability to earn a living without a college education, which has increased in cost in the range of 1,000% over the last couple decades. Making higher education less and less available for middle and lower income class families.
Do you get my point? Those classes need to be available for those students who want to pursue higher levels but it shouldn’t be forced upon students who could care less about algebra II or physics or dissecting the writings of Shakespeare. I think standardized education should stop around 16 years old and then students have the opportunity to pursue something they are passionate about either through higher education, vocational schools, or just flat out volunteering to gain some life experience and hopefully some insight on what they want to pursue as they enter into adulthood.
Once again I am taking the position of individualism and you are using the authoritarian hammer because you believe your way is the correct way. Where I am saying your way is the correct way for some but my way is also correct for some. So wouldn’t a logical and rational solution be to have the opportunity to have it both ways? If we have millions from Nevada County to dump into illegal and immoral wars we sure as hell should have enough to give our children the options for the best education they can receive.
Since 2001 Nevada County has chipped into the Afghanistan/ Iraq coffers a cool
$431.71 million. So when we are stripping schools of teachers, programs, after school programs, tutoring, and so on because of funding problems we need to really ask ourselves; What are our priorities?
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“Once again I am taking the position of individualism and you are using the authoritarian hammer because you believe your way is the correct way.”
Ben, there is no way to sugar coat this: you are clueless.
I think any kid actually taking Algebra II deserves a competent Algebra II text and teacher. They are likely taking it because they wish to attend (or at least be able to apply to) a University of California or other quality university, and 4 years of mathematics is required.
You seem to be assuming the kids doing poorly at Bear River want to be doing poorly… in fact, you seem to think they want to be like Ben Emery when they grow up. Unfortunately, many may well do so.
Have you started that nursing program yet, or are you resigned to never having even earned an Associate of Arts before you start Medicare?
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Brother Ben is back! Missed you BB. I hear what both you and Mr. Greg are saying. Ben says if a kid does not give a rat’s ass about math or any STEM subject, he should not be forced to struggle with it. Have him take drama and drawing…er…I mean art. Have him/her do their own thing. Perhaps drop out and hitchhike down to West Hollywood to become an actor…er…waiter or cab driver. Heck, every waiter or clerk down there has a script for the next great movie in their back pocket and every waitress is an aspiring actress. I know that territory.
Perhaps the youngin should hop a train to Nashville and make it big on the stage of The Grand Ole’ Oprie. Emotions matter, not results. Heck, I think if someone can do what they dream of doing, more power to them. I loved dredging gold for a few years. Loved it and had gold fever to boot. Even make a living. But, without a back up plan, things can dry up. As Bette Midler said “I have been broke and I have had money….and believe you me, having money is better.”
Money can’t buy happiness is true, but it can buy freedom from the hand to mouth existence and buy time to pursue one’s dreams while supporting those who depend on you….the young and vulnerable.
Meanwhile back in reality, minimum wage jobs are/were/will never be intended to deliver a living wage. Never/ever. That is why only 4% of the workforce draws minimum wage and only 2% of the workforce that are full time employees draws minimum wage for all -their sweat and toil.
Ben, yes, all kids are not cut out for college or even high school. The poor we will always have with us–Jesus of Nazareth. A mind is a terrible thing to waste-United Negro College Fund. So, for those that don’t give two cents about math or English Lit, what is their plan B? You are not suggesting we cast them aside to let them drown in their own vomit are you? That would be truly letting our children, our future, our Nation down. Screw the future and the future will screw you. What you sow is what you reap.
Lets not forget that high schoolers’ frontal lobes are not fully developed when they make decisions that result in such predictable outcomes. Winning is a habit to some and conversely quitting becomes a habit to others.
To make the future look bleaker in public education funding:
http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-schools-pensions-20140521-story.html
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Here is an article about the Scandinavian countries education system and more specifically Finland. The Nordic countries finish in the top countries for education year after year with a education system I am talking about competing with very rigid Chinese and Singapore where private schools rule supreme.
Bill- I didn’t suggest hitchhiking and no education I’m talking about giving options for education. If we made education a priority like we do military/ war we would have the best education system in the world. But we don’t because war makes instant profits for a few companies who then in turn buy our representatives to promote more militarism and war like policies without ever declaring a war as the Constitution dictates.
What Americans Keep Ignoring About Finland’s School Success
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/12/what-americans-keep-ignoring-about-finlands-school-success/250564/
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Ben, what makes Finland somewhat special is their teacher corps. To replicate Finland (not a bad idea) you’d have to fire perhaps 75% of American teachers and administrators. Maybe more of the administrators, who really need to be more of what used to be called the Headmaster. The cream of an academic crop able to actually judge competence and effectiveness.
My kid didn’t cram for tests. No juku, or the American equivalent, Kumon. Didn’t take cram school for the SAT. The Waldorf types would cringe at the amount of TV he watched. He did all his homework and had far too many distractions, including a heavy performance schedule with the chamber choir. In fact, he was a lot like me in high school.
In the US, by at least one study, the lower the SAT taken in high school, the higher the probability they are teaching K-12 ten years after their baccalaureate. That is the key to understanding our education problems.
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Greg….to the best of your knowledge did the Saxon math program change significantly after Houghton Mifflin purchased the rights?
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I can think of no better place for this headline than in an “Administrivia” thread.
Alarmist Paul Ehrlich Predicts Need to ‘Eat the Bodies of Your Dead’
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/sean-long/2014/05/22/alarmist-paul-ehrlich-predicts-need-eat-bodies-your-dead#ixzz32TBFHNCG
Whaddya think jeffy….topic for a future issue of Sierra FoodWineArt magazine (offering culture and entertainment news)?
Perhaps a discussion of a suitable wine as accompaniment.
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It is possible to graduate from Bear River High School and finish a college degree in 4 years but the odds are not great? Collectively I might agree to some length, but several students that I know personally (from BR)have finished four year degrees in four years and a select few in less time. Many of those have gone on to advanced degrees. Most of these students are making the best of their opportunities no matter what they are.I’m with you on the level of education being offered and specifically on mathematics.
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Jon… thanks for mentioning your overall agreement about the school. The kids with a baccalaureate in 4 years or less… how many were in a mathematically intensive majors like math, physics, chemistry or engineering? Mea culpa, I’m usually focused on those. While math talent is generally required for success in computer science, geometry, trigonometry and calculus isn’t.
Some kids do OK at BRHS and I expect it’s mostly in spite of the school, not because of it; I remember the year my son graduated NUHS and went off to Cal, BR actually had a kid accepted into Cal Tech… and the graduation announcement handout (listing the grads and their future plans) identified the California Institute of Technology, the #1 college in the country for the fraction of alumni with PhD’s, with admission standards in the stratosphere… as a non-academic trade school. They had no clue.
To fish and the FUE…
Dinner Guest: Hannibal, confess. What is this divine-looking amuse bouche?
Hannibal Lecter: If I tell you, I’m afraid you won’t even try it.
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Jeff,
George is part of the extreme right in most of his views. That is why I did my farewell fascist/ authoritarian/ corporatist comment series that lasted two or three weeks. George tried his best to ignore the comments but his fab five fascist minions couldn’t help themselves and proved my opinion correct by their responses. Politically it is a scary bunch over at Rebane’s Ruminations. People who live in complete denial of their privileges handed down to them from our nations bigoted history. They truly believe they earned everything in their lives on their own sweat, blood, and intellect despite being products and recipients of the progressive movement policies that dominated the New Deal and FDR administrations through the Johnson administration. Policies they now want to take away from others who need the same protection or help from the government that they received while coming up in the world. It is truly amazing and discouraging to think that bigots of that degree are given the time of day anywhere in the US still. Much less a seat at the legislative, judicial, and executive table.
Oh Ben…you never disappoint….but truth be told after ducking documenting your “fascist/authoritarian/corporatist” charges you simpered away with a final…..“I hope you won’t have power over anyone……”
Good news…..I don’t…..and I’m loving it.
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fish 259pm – I presume you are quoting BenE from the FUE’s blog. The item that I want RR readers to pay particular attention to from the incessant repetition of screeds like this is that their accusation that I, or anyone else, is of the “hard right” remains baseless since none of these high intellects 1) know what hard right means (i.e. can give a list of tenets of a hard right ideology), or 2) can demonstrate the connection between any of such tenets and the person who stands so accused in their eyes. All they can do is endlessly repeat their braying that this person or that person is a ‘hard right winger’, and the validity of such a statement must be embraced by their chorus solely on their say so. Additionally, we also note the perennial inclusion of their desire to deny voice to those with whom they agree, a denial that their ilk has carried out during the last century with the most bloody of consequences. They do mean us harm.
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I presume you are quoting BenE from the FUE’s blog.
I am, and indeed it is.
I was under the assumption that “protest chanting” was a behavior that one outgrew as certain levels of intellectual maturity were reached. I guess not so in Bens case.
Hey Ben….if you want to remain immature, do it like me….be snotty! Sanctimony is so off putting.
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George opined: “They do mean us harm.”
Really George? Just exactly who means you harm? I’d like to see a list please.
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They truly believe they earned everything in their lives on their own sweat, blood, and intellect despite being products and recipients of the progressive movement policies that dominated the New Deal and FDR administrations through the Johnson administration. Policies they now want to take away from others who need the same protection or help from the government that they received while coming up in the world.
Now perhaps I’ve been too hasty…..maybe ol soft headed Ben is on to something…..I mean after all FDR and his policies did help the little guy…you know… kept the rapacious capitalists at bay and stopped them from losing their meager possessions.
“I live near the Blue Ridge Parkway. It’s a gorgeous road cut through the mountains that runs from the Shenandoah through the Blue Ridge in Virginia all the way down to North Carolina. It was built on the destroyed lives of American kulaks – rural Southern mountain folks. To make way for the road, America’s Mussolini – Franklin Delano Roosevelt – had federal troops forcibly remove these rustics from what they thought was their land. Whole communities were excised. You can still view the sad remains of what were once people’s homes . . . or so they believed until the fed’s shock army advised them otherwise.
Does the scenic beauty – the usefulness – of the Parkway wash away the horror visited upon those poor people? Of course it does not. We – most of us – simply blank it out. We enjoy the road. Just as we enjoy the land seized from the Indians and revere the likes of Andrew Jackson – an earlier tyrant who force-marched another group of kulaks off the land they once imagined (silly Indians!) to be theirs.
But, could roads exist without wholesale evacuations and gross violations of property rights – all of it backed up by bayonets and bullets?
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/05/eric-peters/guns-bayonets-and-the-destruction-of-private-property/
I never thought it possible that a caring progressive like yourself could endorse the fascistic, racist, authoritarian policies of monsters (Jackson, Johnson, Roosevelt) like these.
Oh well it was probably for the best you know, eggs and omelets as it were. The quest for progress for the masses. Whats a few crushed and broken peasants on the march to bring fascism….err….progressivism to a poor benighted population when the “Right People” are at the helm.
Anyway they were kinda in the south so I’m sure they were probably in favor of slavery too and like totally deserved having their shit taken from them…fucking racists. Serves them right. FDR probably should have had them killed…them and their spawn for daring to impede the peoples radiant progressive future….as an example to any others who might stand in the the way! Like Totally!
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Fish, great rhetoric.
Here is your reward: http://bit.ly/TBT79s
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Fish, great rhetoric.
Wha……?!?! I thought you proggie types were all about calling out the wreckers, hoarders, and counterrevolutionaries hiding within the community. I just thought you would appreciate me finding and revealing a double agent in your midst?!
Funny though…it really is the last guy you expect. Ben Emery….in favor of such things….simply shocking!
Anyway, in order to part on friendly terms Michael, it is only fitting that I leave you with a masturbatory gift as well.
Enjoy my friend!
http://tinyurl.com/spank-it-Michael
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Dear Michael,
re: the future
This was an older policy used by our progressive predecessors but one that may hold promise should we need to maintain our power at any time in the immediate future.
During World War II, the U.S. government interned tens of thousands of Japanese Americans who had been convicted of no crime. To put a happy face on the proceedings, the Office of War Information made a film about it. “Neither the Army nor the War Relocation Authority relished the idea of taking men, women, and children from their homes, their shops, and their farms,” narrator Milton Eisenhower claims. “So the military and civilian agencies alike determined to do the job as a democracy should: with real consideration for the people involved.”
We then see footage of the prisoners (sorry: “evacuees”) being delivered to their internment camps (sorry: “pioneer communities”). These new pioneers, we’re told, settled “on land that was raw, untamed, but full of opportunity.” The inmates were eager to work, and they “cooperated wholeheartedly. The many loyal among them felt that this was a sacrifice they could make in behalf of America’s war effort.” (And just look at those happy smiles!)
It gets even worse, but I can’t quote the whole thing; you’ll have to watch it. Here’s the full film:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/05/23/friday-av-club-our-friendly-government-e
Don’t mind the dismissive tone of the author. He is clearly weak and lacks sufficient revolutionary understanding.
This method can be employed by the “right people” to keep our vision for a progressive future moving forward.
I’ll notify Ben so he can help us during the implementation phase.
All Peace to the Progressives
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Yup,, I looked pretty good back then…. Didn’t I?
Looks like the money I spent on reputation.com didn’t pay off.
The Indian is now running a casino, the cop is with the S.F. police union,
and my good buddy in leather buttless chaps has a B&B in the coffee farms in Kona. ( I guess he was in Nevada Co. while we were there.)
Your “shipment” has arrived Doc.,,,
This “mule” got it through. Let me know when I can drop it off.
BTW,,, Met a guy who was a carpenter in Truckee for many years until he got laid off.. He now sells funky soap at a local open air market.
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Really Steve?? I wasn’t Navy. I was Air force.
” Morons”??? Just what’s up with that? When have I ever thrown insults
at YOUR significant other?
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Mr. Fish: What looney toon brain dead moron wrote this????
“Politically it is a scary bunch over at Rebane’s Ruminations. People who live in complete denial of their privileges handed down to them from our nations bigoted history. They truly believe they earned everything in their lives on their own sweat, blood, and intellect despite being products and recipients of the progressive movement policies that dominated the New Deal and FDR administrations through the Johnson administration. Policies they now want to take away from others who need the same protection or help from the government that they received while coming up in the world.”
The world has gone mad I tell ya, stark raving mad. I cannot believe any human with one brain cell left would spout such bull pucky. Well, the scary bunch part is correct. Boo! Scared ya? Let’s sit around the campfire and roast some marshmallows over carbon releasing wood and swap scary stories. Boo! again, you shiny piece of human debris. If black is beautiful, the author of such phewy above just pooped a masterpiece.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/1530407_10151890744775911_179685905_n.jpg
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Mr. Fish: What looney toon brain dead moron wrote this????
Now Bill, we both know who the author of that sentiment is…..and of course that is……overly sensitive British musician Morrissey…wait no….it’s the Sierra Foothills very own Ben Emery.
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People who live in complete denial of their privileges handed down to them from our nations bigoted history.
I guess if Fred can acknowledge our failings I guess I can too…….
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Vertebrate.shtml
Run KKKrazy Doug….RUN!!!!!!
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I asked on May 22: “Really George? Just exactly who means you harm? I’d like to see a list please.”
Crickets.
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MichaelA 819pm – your question of a “list” of those who mean us harm is beyond ignorant, but not unexpected. Why don’t you start with all of those who have militarized our local police departments and government agencies with weaponry that has only one kind of target – masses of American civilians pushed beyond the breaking point. Only rank cynics and pernicious liars claim that such weaponry and tactics are required to fight terrorists and crime on American soil. Especially since violent crime rates have been dropping for over two decades.
But ultimately it is you and yours who see me and mine as those standing in the way of the new world order for which you have demonstrated to be a fine apologist.
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George wrote: “But ultimately it is you and yours who see me and mine as those standing in the way of the new world order for which you have demonstrated to be a fine apologist.”
More crazy from crazy town. You know nothing about my politics. Zero. I was fighting the new world order as far back as the 1960s, while you were drinking beer in Leipzig. Your rogue gallery of idealogues at RR do nothing to further anything in the political realm, neither in Nevada County nor the rest of the universe. You guys are screaming at the sky and no one is listening. Well, I take that back. You guys are listening to yourselves, and there are others like myself who come here for comedic reasons.
But here’s the trick. You don’t actually believe that I am an apologist for the new world order. The reason you wrote that is because you chose me as a subject for your propaganda stream, just like you choose Steve Frisch, Ben and Paul Emery, and so many others. And once we’re so labeled, that’s it.
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