102 responses to “FUE on CABPRO (updated)”

1. 

   Bill Tozer

   09 February 2014

   Looking at the picture, I think I saw that guy or his identical twin pissing on a fire hydrant in Quainty Town.

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   Bonnie McGuire

   09 February 2014

   Thank you George. We’ve been aware of CABPRO since it’s get-go and have nothing but respect for it and the many wonderful people who have kept it going. It was something our community needed.

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   Ben Emery

   09 February 2014

   Bill,
   “Looking at the picture, I think I saw that guy or his identical twin pissing on a fire hydrant in Quainty Town.”
   I think that was your reflection in the window.

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   Bill Tozer

   09 February 2014

   Good comeback Ben, like your style. I have pissed on a lot better places than Quainty town. 🙂

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   Barry Pruett

   10 February 2014

   Question: Why do Jeff Pelline and the rest of local radical liberals attack Foxnews, the Tea Party, conservative bloggers, and CABPRO?
   Answer: Fear.

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6. 

   stevenfrisch

   10 February 2014

   I don’t really think anyone has much to fear from CABPRO. The entire county knows they are a bunch of special interest cranks. Even the county Supervisors cringe when CABPRO gets up to talk because they know they are going to have to field a bunch of poorly researched and irrelevant questions and allegations about local policy. The reality is most of their thunder has been stolen by the Tea Party which has become the new catch all for all of the conspiracy theories, anti-government ranters, and discontented souls in the county. The good news is a Tea Party endorsement still seems to be the kiss of death in local politics.

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   Todd Juvinall

   10 February 2014

   We know a person “fears” when they spew like theFrisch did above. Too funny.

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8. 

   Walt

   10 February 2014

   LOL Steve,,, “The entire county knows they are a bunch of special interest cranks”.. Really? I can point out more than a few Lefty “special interest cranks”. ” Friends of…( Name your ditch or creek) Or how about the “occupy
   the overpass gang” on any given gripe of the day.
   Local Libby’ “special disinterests” did a FINE job of snuffing jobs.. All in the name of loony tune ideals. ” The creek would go up 2.5 inches… Mine water would cool the creek down stream.. ” Toxic tile!!! ( remember that line of fear mongering?) Larger than life depictions of the buildings… Then the all important ” AGW”…
   Hell! The local Democrat Socialist party can’t even get “rights” right.
   I recall well the signage on their parade barge in the past. ” Freedom FROM religion”.
   Don’t forget about the 50 grand junk pile in the middle of the roundabout.
   That was money well spent… Right..?
   Just to add insult to injury, your side of the fence is still out to remove water storage ( That would be dams in the river) with a drought so bad, most have never witnessed here. ( all in the name of pretty)
   Now go fill your tank with green pond scum, put wind generators on every corner of you car, Solar panels on the roof, and pack your trunk with D cell batts.
   and see how far you get.
   I hear earthworms make a great hybrid fuel too.

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   Todd Juvinall

   10 February 2014

   Walt, you have it right. Unfortunately Steve Frisch is on the public grant dole and he will never listen. He has it made. All those unfortunates in life, the poor, the downtrodden and the envious, will never get a dime from his stash.

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10. 

    Gregory

    10 February 2014

    Pelline wrote the following in the last day or so: “When they can’t win an argument on merit, they turn nasty, trying to intimidate and bully people. They lie about people too.”
    I was gobsmacked. Two defamations of me Pelline has made in this blog alone is the Constitution Day “temper tantrum” that never happened, and a supposed threat to his kid that never happened.
    He is so blissfully unencumbered by self awareness. Or is it merely narcissistic projection?
    On the other hand, a The Union insider of the time actually did tell me he was “universally despised” there, and Jeff did offer to “apologize” for saying I had a temper tantrum if only I would retract my then fresh “universally despised” characterization. Sorry Charlie, I won’t say I lied when I didn’t to get you to apologize for a lie you made to get me to retract it in the first place. In short, I don’t take being blackmailed lightly.

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11. 

    Walt

    10 February 2014

    A couple of more “crazy” Lefty groups came to mind.
    CLAIM(jumpers),,, an impromptu group born to kill high paying jobs
    with half backed “claims” of doom and gloom.
    And then there is Yuba Net. So much for following the law there. ( illegal special interest.) Immigrations laws are for “others” to follow. Being a needle bending LIB mouth piece gets you special treatment. NO deportation there.
    BTW,, I doubt vary much that it was a conservative minded person that bitched
    about the ” Support our troops” signage down at Combie Rd. ( which has since been removed thanks to someone who took issue with a harmless cross on it.)

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12. 

    Walt

    10 February 2014

    OK “true believers” of GW,,, The newest excuse has been printed. These keep getting better and better.
    “Stronger Pacific Ocean winds may help explain the slowdown in the rate of global warming since the turn of the century, scientists said.
    More powerful winds in the past 20 years may be forcing warmer seas deeper and bringing cooler water to the surface, 10 researchers from the U.S. and Australia said today in the journal Nature. That has cooled the average global temperature by as much as 0.2 degree Celsius (0.36 Fahrenheit) since 2001.”
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-09/global-warming-slowdown-due-to-pacific-winds-study-shows.html
    We need to do something about those winds. They are making the AGW “true believers” look bad.

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13. 

    Gregory

    10 February 2014

    Walt, right on time, WUWT dug out a paper from 7 years ago that proved that slow trade winds did the same thing as we are now told fast trade winds did. Perhaps Master Frisch, the keeper of the true science flame whose only science degree is “Political”, can sort out which is correct?
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/10/seven-years-ago-we-were-told-the-opposite-of-what-the-new-matthew-england-paper-says-slower-not-faster-trade-winds-caused-the-pause/
    Remember, “The science is settled”.

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14. 

    Russ Steele

    10 February 2014

    95% of Climate Models Agree: The Observations Must be Wrong
    Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.
    I’m seeing a lot of wrangling over the recent (15+ year) pause in global average warming…when did it start, is it a full pause, shouldn’t we be taking the longer view, etc.
    These are all interesting exercises, but they miss the most important point: the climate models that governments base policy decisions on have failed miserably.
    I’ve updated our comparison of 90 climate models versus observations for global average surface temperatures through 2013, and we still see that >95% of the models have over-forecast the warming trend since 1979, whether we use their own surface temperature dataset (HadCRUT4), or our satellite dataset of lower tropospheric temperatures (UAH):
    Graphic is HERE.
    Perhaps, Steven Frisch has an answer as to why the real data, the actual measurements, are not following 95% of the models that government agencies, including his own Sierra Business Council, are using to make decision that have a huge detrimental impact on our economy?

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15. 

    Paul Emery

    10 February 2014

    CABPRO
    You can always tell when an organization is on the rocks when they can no longer fund an Executive Director. In my view CABPRO is largely obsolete because it’s funding largely came from the construction industry which was a big force in the 90’s but is now neutered due to the economy. The apparent infighting is typical in dying organizations that are searching for their relevance. The same thing happened to the RQC around 10 years ago. Apparently CABPRO is lacking in inspirational leadership to pull things together. Todd knows more about the situation than he is willing to write about publicly so don’t expect trickles from that spout. Also the Tea Party has more bravado and is much more fun for supporters than an obsolete lobby group.

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16. 

    Walt

    10 February 2014

    Remember Paul,, LIB radio is approaching ” Big Foot” status. Your already on the endangered “watch list”. Ya’ really shouldn’t throw stones when your own existence and relevancy is on thin ice.
    I hear Pirate radio is coming back. A tent on sugarloaf hill with a cheap transmitter and a cell phone, tuned to a mid band frequency my be the next gig.
    Nevada City will have great reception, but the Ridge will be a little sketchy.

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    Paul Emery

    10 February 2014

    Walt
    KVMR is Community Radio with a wide spectrum of programming about 80% music from all genres. We have around 5000 members and around 400 volunteers so we are hardly an endangered species.
    I have no problem with CABPRO as a viable voice in our community. I was encouraged when Chuck Shea, a friend of mine, became Executive Director that CABPRO would become a credible and articulate voice in our community This rift is new information for me.

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18. 

    Gregory

    11 February 2014

    BTW The FUE is still going on (and on and on…) over the CABPRO thing.
    See the dead horse.
    Flog the dead horse.
    Flog, flog, flog.
    The echo over there must have a therapeutic, calming effect for Jeff and Steve.
    Since this thread has such a fine candid photo of the man at the top, I thought I’d bring it back here.

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19. 

    Todd Juvinall

    11 February 2014

    Greg you are too funny! The two “big boys” have found their calling.

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20. 

    Russ Steele

    12 February 2014

    Obama Turnout Machine Crashes in San Diego—Loses Mayor’s Race by Nine Points.
    “Kevin Faulkoner recaptured the mayor’s office in San Diego for Republicans in a special election yesterday. The polls were skin-tight leading into yesterday’s election, and unions poured in millions to keep control in the nation’s eighth-largest city. . . . Democrats were stunned at the margin. In the November open primary, Democrats had won 54 percent of the ballots cast and were convinced they could win the runoff between Faulkoner and Alvarez. Unions pitched in a record $4.2 million to promote Alvarez, compared to only $1.7 million from business interests backing Faulkoner. In the end, Alvarez outspent Faulkoner in total by a million dollars.” Some of this is probably Filner fallout. Dems better hope that all of it is Filner fallout, because otherwise it suggests a severely damaged brand.
    I wonder how our local lefty will try to spin this? People are finally waking up that the left cannot manage anything.

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21. 

    fish

    12 February 2014

    People are finally waking up that the left cannot manage anything.
    …And this has been a puzzlement to me Russ! You would think that the left, the party (faction) of government solutions would have a vested interest, more than their opposite faction anyway, in making sure that these programs were well run.
    It doesn’t seem that this is the case at all.
    Obamacare…Obamaphones….all the mismanaged crap they inherited from earlier generations…… all going south.

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22. 

    fish

    12 February 2014

    I knew Steve would be happier over at Pellines site…basking in the adulation and self referential congratulations. We’re jutht thos thmart becauth we’re jutht thos thmart. Sheesh!

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23. 

    Jeff Pelline

    12 February 2014

    Russ,
    What’s the spin? Faulkoner was a good choice to represent the people of San Diego. You have to look at things on a case-by-case basis, not your lens of rigid ideology. Duh.

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24. 

    George Rebane

    12 February 2014

    There seems to be continued confusion in the ranks of the calcified collectivists. For some years they have argued that conservative influence in the county is rapidly waning as our community has purportedly turned “purple”. Yet at the same time our designated reader reports that some local leftwingers are concerned about a red resurgence in which the “hard right” is now powerful enough to actually “brand our community as place that welcomes political extremism”. Of course, everyone exposed to such penetrating insights understands that political extremism only comes in one flavor.

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25. 

    Barry Pruett

    12 February 2014

    George: Is not California branded as the home of leftwing political extremism by the rest of the nation? The rest of the USA wants to secede from us! LOL. The fact of the matter is that many of the views expressed herein are mainstream outside of California.

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26. 

    Todd Juvinall

    12 February 2014

    It is my observation over the years that the leftists like the FUE are terribly myopic. Claiming to be representative of mainstream while being as far out as the Soviet minkey in space. In the latest purpleman rants, he even wants to go talk to my Pastor. That is how nutty these people are. A restraining order may be required. LOL!

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27. 

    Paul Emery

    12 February 2014

    RE George 10:23
    Actually the Repubsters are very squishy in Nevada County and can swing both ways. We found that out in the Van Zant campaigns which we won rather handily and more recently that was illustrated when
    Democrat Charlie Brown easily outpolled Rep Doolittle on ’06 and McClintock in ’08.

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    George Rebane

    12 February 2014

    BarryP 558pm – True. In fact, I would be very interested in a list of the views on RR that anyone would consider to be “hard right”. In the past this challenge, when met, has only included the Left’s free-wheeling interpretation of what I wrote with the accompanying admonition that their version is what I “really meant”.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/08/we-know-what-you-really-saidthoughtmeant.html

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29. 

    Barry Pruett

    12 February 2014

    State revenues in California are down 20% from a year ago. People are not making money in this state, but it is “all good.” The problem is that we do not live in a vacuum. California used to lead the nation, but now California is bringing up the rear. All is not right in the world when California is in the back. Rigid liberal ideology (fiscally) is sucking California dry. We cannot even pay for our state parks. Extreme liberals (Pelline) seek to divide by diverting focus to social issues so that we ignore fiscal issues. Typical but it contributes to the destruction of a once great state. Sad.

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30. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 February 2014

    “Hard right” is a compliment. Look at the squishy center who will sell out their own mommas to get along with the liberals.

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31. 

    George Rebane

    13 February 2014

    [Russ Steele emailed me his comment which TypePad in its wisdom would not let him post. It is posted below as received. gjr]
    The Claim — Tea Party Conservatives are Holding Back County Economy
    Bill Maher claims that California’s economy is booming because it is Tea Party free, not like Texas, North Carolina and Wisconsin.
    “Friday night on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher,” host Bill Maher pointed out that unlike most of the country, California’s economy is surging ahead, thanks to the efforts of the state Democratic Party and veteran Gov. Jerry Brown (D). California is going to drag the rest of the country kicking and screaming into the present, he said, if it can.”
    According to Maher: “California is creating the kind of modern, liberal nation the country as a whole can only dream about.”
    Citing Maher, our local lefty blogger is concerned “right-wing political extremism is holding back our local economic development.”
    Really! California has an economy to dream about? Lets compare California’s economy with its major competitor Texas:
    • From 2009 to 2012, California’s share of the U.S. economy shrank from 13.1 percent to 12.9 percent while Texas’ portion of the American economy increased from 8.2 percent to 9 percent.
    • California has the fourth-highest cost of living in the nation at 132 percent of the national average. Texas has the second-lowest cost of living at 90 percent. Thus, California’s $8 minimum wage can buy $6.06 of goods and services while Texas’ $7.25 minimum wage can buy the equivalent of $8.04.
    • California’s poverty rate at 23.5 percent, the nation’s highest, while Texas’ poverty rate to 16.5 percent, when cost of living is considered. Proportionately, there are 42 percent more poor people in California than in Texas.
    • According to AFSCME report California has the third-highest income inequality gap in the nation with Texas ranked seventh.
    • According to the U.S. Department of Education, Texas graduates a higher percentage of high school students than does California and a far higher percentage of Hispanic high school students, a key plurality in both states.
    Californian’s pay one of the highest median rents in the country, the state also has a high proportion of people who are renting.
    If California represents all that is good about liberal economic development and a glorious planned future, why do we have the nation’s highest poverty rate, with nearly 9 million people living in poverty? Think about that for a moment. Was this the creation of the Tea Party, or California’s Progressives?

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32. 

    Paul Emery

    13 February 2014

    Todd
    You mean Romney types?

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33. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 February 2014

    That is the nirvana for the liberal George. People are victims and the left wants to keep them there as their purpose for liv g. So in their twisted brains, Maher included, they are 1/2 way to perfection. Pelline, a silver spooner, a supposed “smarter than the average bear” type, loves Maher and everything he says.
    California has always been the leader in things the whole country adopted over my lifetime. Now they are trying to export failure and thank goodness, most states are rejecting. The factoids you have listed are actually a siren’s song for the ner-do-well freeloaders to come here.
    On another note, I was watching RT TV last night and the USA fell 13 points in “press freedom” in one year in regards to 180 countries. The largest drop ever by one nation. We are now 46th. Eritrea is last. This shows that the love affair of the press with Obama and the democrat party has really wrecked our press. No wonder Maher thinks California is doing so well.

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34. 

    fish

    13 February 2014

    Actually the Repubsters are very squishy in Nevada County and can swing both ways. We found that out in the Van Zant campaigns which we won rather handily and more recently that was illustrated when Democrat Charlie Brown easily outpolled Rep Doolittle on ’06 and McClintock in ’08.
    Paul I don’t think you understand “democracy”…..I intimated once that winning elections was the heart of the matter (forgive me I don’t recall the exact circumstances surrounding the issue at the time) and Ben got very offended saying that “democracy” wasn’t about winning elections….it was about “democracy”. Not a big deal though…..I’m sure if you ask him nicely he’ll be happy to explain it all to you!

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    Ben Emery

    13 February 2014

    Fish,
    Winning elections does not equate to democracy. Please take a second and think about what democracy actually means. Then take another second to compare what democracy actually means with the various ways a candidate/ political party can win an election.
    I will give a very obvious example of winning an election without being democratic. Excluding 50% of the potential voting population due to gender is one way that winning an election doesn’t represent democracy. For a 128 years of the 222 year history of our nation that was how it worked. Is that simple enough for you.

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36. 

    fish

    13 February 2014

    Please take a second and think about what democracy actually means.
    Since you claim you have the “true” definition of the term I’m interested to hear it.

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37. 

    Todd Juvinall

    13 February 2014

    PaulE, using your theory, how do you explain Drew Bedwell’s victory over Bruce Conklin in the second most liberal district in the county?
    Also, Robin Sutherland beat Izzy Martin in a race Izzy should have kicked ass. What happened there PaulE?

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38. 

    Gregory

    13 February 2014

    “What’s the spin? Faulkoner was a good choice to represent the people of San Diego. You have to look at things on a case-by-case basis, not your lens of rigid ideology. Duh.” -the FUE incarnate, yesterday 8:15AM
    Nicely spun, Cartman, though the childish “duh” certainly detracted from any gravitas you might have had. The spin is ‘it was just a local election’, but that didn’t keep the President from endorsing the candidate the Obama machine had been campaigning hard for.
    In other mayoral news, former No Olans mayor, Democrat Ray Nagin, guilty on 20 of 21 counts of corruption.

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39. 

    fish

    13 February 2014

    I will give a very obvious example of winning an election without being democratic. Excluding 50% of the potential voting population due to gender is one way that winning an election doesn’t represent democracy. For a 128 years of the 222 year history of our nation that was how it worked. Is that simple enough for you.
    Ah I should have read further….
    Women were chattel for much of our history….chattel is not entitled to participate in the democratic process. Women now have the franchise though Ben….is your quibble with history? We disenfranchise many segments of the population…..felons, the mentally ill, children etc. I think that stupid people should be excluded…you don’t….(more’s the pity) and I think that those who draw their salaries for governmental sources should also lose the right to vote at least on issues where they vote to increase their access to tax money (full disclosure – I fall into this category and would yield to my own restriction).

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    fish

    13 February 2014

    Women were chattel for much of our history….chattel is not entitled to participate in the democratic process.
    A request to the grammarians in the audience:
    Women were chattel for much of our history….chattels are not entitled to participate in the democratic process.
    Better structure?

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 February 2014

    The lamestream media did npt mention that “Schoolbus Nagin” was a democrat. So, once again the people of America are lied too by the so-called “journalists. Yikes as I was writing this Rush saif the same thing!

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    Paul Emery

    13 February 2014

    Todd
    To put it simple Drew Bedwell won because he worked hard and ran a good campaign. Bruce lost because of infighting in his ranks that caused Mark Johnson to enter the primary. If it would have been Drew and Bruce in the primary Bruce would have won easily.
    Izzy winning in the first place wan an anomaly for that District which is very Conservative. In my view she should have never run for a second term because she was dead in the water after celebrating her victory party in Nevada City after the first election.
    In my view Nevada County Republicans have an edge over the Dems in numbers but there are enough swing voters in the ranks that have and will in the future cross over to the other side when they are not happy. Charlie Brown is the latest example.

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    Todd Juvinall

    13 February 2014

    So you have a “what if” on Bedwell? Too funny.
    Izzy portrayed herself as a conservative during her first run. Having attended all those Planning Commission meetings during the General Plan debacle I knew she was a lefty. But the press was simply a stenographer for her like they are for Obama and the people were hornswoggled. But after seeing her in action during her term she could not hide her politics and the people finally got to see the folly and booted her.
    Sue Horne won by write in too. She was up against a Republican and beat him handily. I thought he was a fibber about his philosophy. Especially on property rights.
    Nevada County people are more independent in the booth and I think that is good. If a democrat like Tom Bradley ran, I might vote for him. But the left is so extreme here that will never happen. Read Pelline and your brother Ben’s words. Radical extremists.

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    Walt

    13 February 2014

    Todd is right as rain on that. Izzy pulled a bait and switch on us. She was anything BUT “pro property rights”. Hell. It looks like “O” and Co. used her playbook. Get elected by any means necessary, Then enact one’s agenda. Izzy and the gang screwed us all,
    and the measure of their purposeful damage can still be felt today. Remember that ” biodiversity “study” ( where trespassing on private property was fine and dandy)they
    collected data on? Then there was the formation of the “leaf police” when burning.
    But look at the new gig she got out of screwing Nevada Co. Her vary own ” non profit”
    with a great paycheck. ( like someone else we know)
    Wasn’t there some questions about lacking some building permits for the Sierrafund “retreat”? Ya…. Permits are for “other” people.

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45. 

    Ben Emery

    13 February 2014

    Fish,
    We are talking about democracy, which is people power or rule by the people. We are not talking about bogus elections won by suppressive laws that prohibit otherwise eligible human beings from exercising their ability to vote and have a say in the governing body that will determine the laws they will eventually have to live by.
    We don’t need to make this complicated. If a person is going to live by laws then that person should have a say in those laws either directly or through a representative. Another historical example that comes a bit closer to modern times Jim Crow laws. Don’t worry I can come up with examples to the 2012 and even the 2014 elections.

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46. 

    Bill Tozer

    14 February 2014

    Local issues and elections are exciting. Not bogus in the least. Just look what the former mayor and current city council member said to KNCO concerning some lights on Commercial Street. Admitted flat out that the lights violated the historical district rules, that to keep the lights, they would have to go through the process of the city council, planning commission and all that bloody red tape. “We knew they would be coming after us” someday. My, my. If an elected official believes they can skirt the law….or even consider themselves above the law in tiny Nevada City, then I guess we must not criticize the top dog in the Executive Branch when he goes above the law. In his case, the law is the Constitution of the United States that he took an oath to uphold and defend. We are a nation of laws, except in Nevada City, the State Legislature, and the Oval Office.
    Still, the elections were not bogus. We elected representatives. You can argue representatives of what? That I will give you.

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47. 

    fish

    14 February 2014

    Don’t worry I can come up with examples to the 2012 and even the 2014 elections.
    Oh I’m not…..

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48. 

    Ben Emery

    14 February 2014

    Bill,
    I will bring it to modern day. When ALEC model legislation for voter id laws are promoted as to prevent voter fraud when voter fraud clicks in around 0.001% of the vote, that law is bogus. Those laws are to suppress the vote, which is not democratic in any way. The question I have is for the Democrats and why do they only care about this issue months before an election? Get out the vote strategy or incompetence?
    The Dog That Voted and Other Election Fraud Yarns
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/voter-suppression-kevin-drum
    As for those who do not have to abide by the law, that is a whole another story.

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49. 

    fish

    14 February 2014

    I knew I was right about you and Mama Jones…….
    Gonna be a good day tater!

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50. 

    Todd Juvinall

    14 February 2014

    I see Pelline is whining he doid not get any credit for the CABPRO story he did by the Union. I actually beat hoim but no matter. Now every time he is crticzed about his crap, (the latest by Hreg Zaller) he responds thus,
    “jeffpelline says:
    February 14, 2014 at 5:09 am
    Rob and Dennis,
    Thanks. This is a good conversation. “Hope it boosts my traffic” was a joking comment. This is a personal blog. ”
    So, if he was a legitimate news blog perhaps he would have a point, but since he is a personal blog who moderates comments of conservatives off his site, I would say yes, he has a “personal” blog. He has no credibility in the news scene. Too funny.

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