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[This piece by Ms Jean Gerard was printed in the 4feb14 (paywalled) Union today.  Ms Gerard was not sure that it would be published, so she sent me the piece to appear on RR as her byline.  It is posted as received.  My own remarks are addended below.]

Jean Gerard

We’ve heard from several folks through The Union about multiple downfalls of the Commercial Street Boardwalk – folks who live and work in Nevada City and have to deal with the nuisance that it is on a regular basis.

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And I recently had a conversation with a gentleman who came here six years ago and loved our area. He had to leave for a few years, but recently returned and found a major change in the character of Nevada City. Not a change he praised. The trimmers, the pot smoking/selling, and the type of people in general the Boardwalk is attracting made it very distasteful to him. He was shocked. So it’s not just locals that notice the nuisance.

Marijuana isn’t the only business being conducted on and in the vicinity of the Boardwalk that’s not in alignment with that business district. If you read The Union on a regular basis you may remember that the Nevada City and Grass Valley Police did a ‘saturation patrol’ last August and arrested six people for drugs. Three of them were related to a heroin deal that happened right there on Commercial Street.


One employee of a business on that street told me they’d witnessed one person sitting on the sidewalk near the Boardwalk shooting up. In broad daylight.

If you read the Police blotter, you see that there are calls on a regular basis regarding the goings-on in that area.

And the city planner says there are no physical impacts!

Mr. Kevin Fraser wrote a very good article in which he stated, “It’s fascinating to watch as tourists turn the corner and encounter the scene on the boardwalk and then quickly reverse course….”

I heard from another person who works at a business on that corner who also has witnessed tourists turning around, rather than continue down Commercial Street.

Mr. Conley Weaver said “Vehicular traffic is congested by the effective narrowing of the street and the wanderings of the Boardwalk people.” I can tell you that, more than once, I’ve been stopped from driving down the street because of the people standing in the middle of it – ‘socializing’ – and not caring that any auto traffic needed to get through.

Recently, I took the time to visit businesses on Commercial Street and ask a few questions to see how the business owners and employees ‘really’ feel about the Boardwalk.  

Some of the questions I asked were the following: Has the Boardwalk increased or decreased loitering on Commercial Street?  Overwhelmingly, the majority said “increased.” Would you like to see the Boardwalk stay or go? Again, overwhelmingly, the answer was “GO.”

There were other questions that also got the majority of answers weighing against the Boardwalk, but the city planner and a couple of members of the city council would like you to believe everyone is happy with it.  That is not the case.  It is seen, as Mr. Weaver said, as Skid Row by many.

Downtown Nevada City is an Historical District. There has been a red light district in town before, so the red light on Pete’s Pizza, in front of the Boardwalk, might be considered ‘historical’. (It might also be one reason tourists turn around at the corner of Pine and Commercial). However, at no time in history that I know of, has a roadway been taken up for people to ‘sit and socialize.’

Back to Mr. Fraser’s article: he said that he votes. And that he would “vote against every person in every capacity that has had anything to do with the creation and continuance of this incredible public nuisance.”

Nevada City residents, you’ve got two councilmen who need to be replaced if you have any hope of regaining and maintaining Nevada City’s charm. One’s term is up this year. And any city planner who says “Whether you like it or not is not what is considered. We have to review it based on facts” is another person who needs to go. She’s clearly arrogant, but she’s also delusional when she thinks there are no negative impacts. She is ignoring the facts. I suggest you work with your city council on a plan to appoint a new planner.

The city council meeting on February 5th will be filled with Reinette Senum shills to talk up the Boardwalk. The council needs to recognize this and act accordingly. The Boardwalk needs to go.

[Addendum  The Commercial Street boardwalk pictured above was championed by former Nevada City mayor Ms Reinette Senum.  At the time it was completed I saw it as a charming addition to the off-Broadstreet scene.  I am not of the school holding that functional historical sites must retain every color and cornice the way it was during a given period.  Nevada City has undergone significant changes in its 160+ year history, and the one we now claim to retain captures none of its epochs faithfully.  But we have synthesized what to most people brings back echos of the fabled 19th century gold mining town in California’s motherlode.  And maintaining a semblance of that is good.

While not exactly a part of Nevada City’s history, the boardwalk does replicate outdoor settings that began to appear in European cities and along our east coast during the 1800s.  And having one in our town for tourists and locals to sit and take their ease on warm days and evenings is what the original intent of that construction was.  But as Ms Gerard points out, things don’t always go as hoped and planned, and many people today see that the locale has more than not gone to the dogs.  NC has a big welcome mat that also attracts a wide variety of transients, drug distributors, people with no visible means of support, and even out-and-out low lifes who today use that comfortable setting for their socializing and commerce.  I have witnessed it all while having coffee with friends in an adjoining establishment.  In short, if our inviting and permissive city code is helpless to improve the situation to the benefit of visitors and Commercial Street businesses, then the boardwalk appears to have become a public nuisance and liability to our tourist trade.  gjr]

[5feb14 update] Today’s Union published an Other Voices by Ms Reinette Senum presenting the motivation and beneficial aspects of the Commercial Street boardwalk.  All this publicity is in preparation for tonight’s city council meeting where the boardwalk will be discussed.  Here are the details – The Nevada City Council meets at 6:30 p.m. tonight at City Hall, 317 Broad St. It will also be televised on local public television, NCTV channel 17.  For some reason The Union has not published the Senum piece in its online edition.  I have captured her article as an image from the 5feb14 Union‘s print edition and posted it below.  Apologies for the aspect ratio of the image; too lazy to mess with it further.

Also, the report that Ms Gerard is a NC Tea Party member is false, and I have corrected my post to reflect this.

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108 responses to “The Nevada City Boardwalk (updated 5feb14)”

  1. Gregory Avatar

    We interrupt this squabble for an important weather statement from the National Weather Service
    “TIMING AND STRENGTH: A SERIES OF IMPULSES WILL BRING PERIODS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS INTERIOR NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. THE FIRST WAVE SHOULD ARRIVE FRIDAY, WITH SUCCESSIVE WAVES CONTINUING THROUGH SUNDAY. CURRENT FORECASTS SUGGEST THAT 2 TO 4 INCHES OF RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE SACRAMENTO AND NORTHERN SAN JOAQUIN VALLEYS. BETWEEN 4 TO 8 INCHES OF LIQUID EQUIVALENT RAINFALL WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THE MOUNTAINS.”

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  2. Gregory Avatar

    ” You saw the sign and though “pot” someone else might see “bean sprouts” .. not quite the same as an ad for Marlboro.”
    There is no chance the billboard (looked more closely, it isn’t hydroponics but another growing product) is aimed at someone growing just a few plants since it mentions palette loads of the stuff.
    “2) I guess “acceptance” is how you define it. Recent polls indicate over half of all Americans think pot should be legalized and regulated. If that isn’t acceptance, what is?”
    I already made that clear, but here goes. My party has been fighting for re-legalization of all drugs for at least the three decades I’ve been a registered and occasionally a dues paying, card carrying member. Typically, the objections would be “you can’t just let people have them” and the philosophical counter is, the people have them, the question is do you throw them into jail for it, or maybe shoot them for running away?
    Another standard objection was/is, if you’re not willing to throw them in jail for it, they’ll think it’s OK, and the counter is, not being criminal doesn’t mean it’s OK, it means you’re not hurting other people so it’s wrong to take away your freedom and put you in jail for a few years.
    There is nothing fundamentally wrong with being judgmental; a good argument can be made that lack of judgment is the cause of many of our problems. Shame is good when the conduct is shameful. Do I care if you hang out and smoke all day? Not a bit, especially if you’re a trust fund baby doing your best to squander the last of the Rockefeller fortune of your branch of the family. If you’re on the dole and taking food from the foodbank that should go to people who are trying their damnedest to feed themselves, you should be ashamed of yourself and should probably be allowed to be hungry for awhile.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gosh Todd if you’re not a supporter of legalization and taxation and you’re not in favor of criminalization then where do you stand?

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  4. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    I read with amazement (and dismay) one writer’s reference to Ashland Oregon’s Plaza as a success in urban experiments and something NC could look forward too. I was born and raised in Oregon, lived in Ashland OR and still visit the town frequently. The plaza area, quoted as a success by the writer, is far from reality. In truth, it is an abject failure and the scourge of most local businesses and residents. Please note a recent local article about the untenable situation.
    http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120416/NEWS/204160335
    Homeless problem disturbs Ashland businesses, OSF
    Survey: Concerns include fear for people’s safety and that aggressive panhandling will lead to loss of tourists
    By Vickie Aldous
    for the Mail Tribune
    A survey of Ashland business owners on the impacts of homeless loiterers downtown found widespread concern for the safety of themselves, employees and patrons, and fears that aggressive panhandlers are turning away tourists.
    The head of the Oregon Shakespeare Festival also sent a letter to the City Council this month saying OSF has been troubled for years by the impact of certain homeless people on the community.
    “This is a serious problem that could affect the well-being and economic health of our community,” Executive Director Paul Nicholson wrote in the letter.
    The survey of downtown businesses was conducted by the Ashland Chamber of Commerce during spring break in late March.
    Business owners reported they had been spit upon and their tires slashed. They said residents and tourists often are harassed by panhandlers when they walk through downtown, chamber board member Lisa Beam told the City Council earlier this month.
    Nicholson wrote that while some people are trying to escape homelessness, others choose to be disruptive and tend to congregate in front of OSF’s Black Swan Theatre on Main Street, where they often are under the influence of intoxicants.
    They harass OSF patrons and employees, and intimidate people by aggressively asking for money, Nicholson said. This has led many people to avoid the sidewalk and plaza area in front of the theater, and some patrons have said they are reluctant to return to Ashland.
    Nicholson said OSF is committed to working with local businesses, the city’s Homelessness Steering Committee and political leaders to find lasting solutions.
    Tensions about homeless issues downtown are rising as Ashland’s busy summer tourism season approaches.
    Additionally, a mentally ill homeless man is believed to have set a blaze that charred several downtown plaza businesses, leading to more than $250,000 in damages. Raymond Lee Wilson, 37, allegedly started the fire during a March 19 downtown rampage that police said included throwing rocks through two business windows, stealing from one and vandalizing a vehicle.
    Some business people have asked for an expanded police presence downtown.
    Ashland Police Chief Terry Holderness said he has one officer devoted to downtown patrol and regularly authorizes overtime for a plainclothes officer and uniformed officer to work the downtown area together.
    Officers who are writing reports and records clerks try to frequently staff a police substation across Main Street from the downtown Plaza, he said.
    “We put a lot of resources into dealing with problems in the downtown relative to the resources that we have,” Holderness said.
    Holderness and City Administrator Dave Kanner are seeking authorization this spring from the Ashland Citizens Budget Committee — which includes the mayor and the City Council — for an additional police officer. That person would devote 70 percent of his or her time to the downtown, with 30 percent of hours devoted to Ashland schools, Holderness said.
    It would take almost a year for that person to begin work because of police academy and training requirements, Holderness said.
    Earlier this month, the City Council directed Holderness to draft a new “time-out” law for possible adoption by the council before the summer. Repeat offenders would be barred from the downtown for a certain period of time. They could be arrested for trespassing if they return.
    The Chamber of Commerce plans to install donation boxes in front of the Black Swan Theatre and other downtown spots. Signs with the boxes would encourage people to help fund services for homeless people instead of giving to panhandlers.
    The Chamber plans to install the donation boxes before the end of May. Donations will go to St. Vincent de Paul, which has programs to aid homeless people and to help people avoid falling into homelessness in the first place.

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  5. Russ Steele Avatar

    Dave@11:27
    Thanks for the reality check. The imagination of our local progressive often gets out of hand.

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  6. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    PAulE, you are just a hoot. I don’t even have to speak when discussing things with you, you do it for me.
    PaulE, why did you oppose affordable housing projects in our area? Are you a limousine liberal? Also, how many plants do you have at your residence?

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  7. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    From Paul – “It is estimated that MJ cultivation in Nevada County is a 200 Million annual business which far dwarfs logging, mining or any other industry in our county.”
    So it’s ‘big business’. Ben will now have to jump in and denounce the pot growers as going against the ‘people’. Right Ben?
    When tabacky is outlawed and you can’t buy it in stores folks will start growing their own along side their pot and it will be cool again for the left. Another reason I can’t follow any sort of logic from the left.

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  8. Ben Emery Avatar

    Boardwalk gets year extension despite have a 50 to 6 in favor comment session with the local businesses on the majority side.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar

    Dave
    The area I refer to is not in front of the Theatre but in a different part of town. My sources in the area tell me it’s appreciated as an alternative being on the sidewalks.

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gosh Todd are you asking me for a biological inventory of what is growing on my property. Exactly what “plants” are you referring to. Be specific.

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  11. Gregory Avatar

    Dave, Ashland is a lovely place, takes an hour and a half one way in a small plane from Grass Valley, then about a half hour to snag a taxi to go the last mile or so into town.
    Sorry to hear of the homeless issues in the town; one of the problems that generally gets ignored or even denied by the progresses who care, oh, so very, very much, that the more you make something like homelessness easier to bear, you get more of the homeless. Even Gandhi had to face that truism when subsidizing homespinning not only increased the well being of the very poor who were homespinning their own clothing but drove the total numbers up dramatically as the subsidies had made homespinning a valid choice for many.
    No, they weren’t choosing poverty, just making the best choices they could see in the circumstances.

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Faithful RR readers what you are seeing here is typical Todd Juvinall Chickenhawk tactics. Speak loudly and carry no stick. You asked me about plants at my residence and I asked for clarification as to what plants you refer to? I’d like to answer your question but you need to be specific. Clarify the intent of your question and I’ll give it a go.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Golly PaulE, chicken hawk? Sorry I am not a homosexual, are you? You have a pot garden PaulE? Also, are you a regular pot smoker? Hell, you asked me when my kids were born so asking you about your dope habits should be welcomed by you. You are such a staunch defender of the pot and the right to smoke and grow it. So, tell all the readers here PaulE, how often do you smoke pot and how many plants are in your ownership. Bet you dodge as usual.

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  14. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Of course the topic of homeless people always turns to drugs and alcohol and mental illness, be it in Frisco or Nevada City or Ashland, Ore. Turn on the lights and you will attract bugs.
    I preferred to call myself a wanderer, vagabond, a rolling stone gathers no moss kind of renegade back in the days of wine and roses. Homeless? Never entered my mind once. I was lingering with a purpose, never loitered. Homeless were skid row bums, chicks between guys; not young bucks such as I. Smoked a lot of pot during those days and anything else I could get my hands on except needles or pills. Wasn’t my style. Never used the title hobo or train tramp cause that was property of the generation preceding me.
    Now, back to the moveable wooden structure or boardwalk. Madeline Helling said it right. 47 years ago the city council went all out for an historical district and it probably saved Nevada City from going under. The boardwalk is not historical in appearance by any stretch of the imagination. But, it is nice. Some may argue that allowing the boardwalk bench thing is the slippery slope to other exceptions, like serving that dinner on the public streets and charging people for it. Never has Nevada City use public streets to charge people to sit down at the love feast as a minor example.
    Just to touch on a nuance Dr. Rebane mentioned. It seems Nevada City is moving more toward the European feel than the Gold Rush. I read of the goal of a community center with little shops designed to be like they have across the Atlantic Ocean in the Fatherland or Motherland, depending own your ancestors. Old Country feel. Maybe like France or Bohemia. Cobblestone looks great if you ask me and most smaller Euroland villages have a town square as the hub of the spokes. Certainly South and Central America got that design from the Spaniards. Just seems with the hills and current structures, sticking a community center/market place at the bottom of Broad Street just ain’t the old country. There was once a nice tunnel craved out of the rock going from the Stonehouse to the bordellos. Need to get away? Darn freeway ruint that.
    At least Grass Valley as two European round-dee-bouts and at least one in Truckee. The way our country is heading, heck, turn all of it into Euroland #2. Very charming and apropos.

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  15. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    How many beers do you have in your fridge Todd? How often do you get drunk? I think Paul’s pot use or not, is really none of your business.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Are you his pot smoking pal JoeK? Of course my questions are relevant to the discussion. You and your ilk are constantly asking very personal questions of conservatives but cower when you are asked about your habits. I bet you are a heavy smoker aren’t you JoeK? Your personal habits would probably scare any normal person.

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  17. Paul Emery Avatar

    Bill
    Our local Historical Society has created a snapshot of what they consider to be the Historical Nevada City which by and large has helped Nevada City economically and culturally. The question is how far do you go. The great baseball player Satchel Paige sums it when he writes “It’s okay to look back, just don’t stare.”
    Commercial street is far less dangerous today than it was in 1976 when I first moved here when there was a bar named Pete’s place where Coopers is today that you could not walk in front of for fear of being beat up or molested if you were a woman, gay or hippie. Not many tourists on that side of the street in’76. It;s far better today for sure.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    I don’t smoke pot Todd but I suggest you might consider it for medicinal purposes. It is claimed that Cannabis offers relief from paranoid anxiety problems. I don’t know if it will help you but you’ve got to try something.

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Paul;E I don’t need anything like you have suggested. Funny how people like, plain normal folks, look odd to the “progressive” mind. Too funny.

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  20. Paul Emery Avatar

    Just trying to help Todd. Glad you’re OK. I makes me sad to see people suffer.

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  21. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I can send help PaulE. You seem down.

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  22. Ben Emery Avatar

    Hey Bill,
    Don’t you find it funny that South America (Spaniards) and now Nevada County are trying to preserve the history of oppression and theft?
    Do you know how and why the Spanish influence in the America’s except for Brazil that speaks Portuguese?
    I wonder how much input the Maidu or Nisenan people have in the historical society?
    My Spanish/ Portuguese ancestors (Garcia) in California had their land stolen when California became a state that was a result of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
    I get fighting a war and losing has consequences but the Mexican- American War wasn’t fought in California and those who lived here should not have had their land stolen. Then we could go back even further to the building of the Missions with slave labor of the indigenous populations. If we look at history without the patriotic lens we would see the entire history of our nation is steeped in anything but liberty for all. The only shame I might feel personally from our history is that we are very selective in the retelling that history. Truth shall set us free. There are no amount of reparations that could satisfy the destruction of entire cultures and sometimes the extinction but would could do is acknowledge the history for what it is so we do not repeat it.

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  23. fish Avatar
    fish

    Again time for a patented Ben Emery fisking…..
    Don’t you find it funny that South America (Spaniards) and now Nevada County are trying to preserve the history of oppression and theft?
    Are you asserting that South America and Nevada County are making false representations in their presentation of the regions history?
    Do you know how and why the Spanish influence in the America’s except for Brazil that speaks Portuguese?
    Another extremely poorly crafted Ben Emery accusatory sentence…..but feel free to elaborate.
    I wonder how much input the Maidu or Nisenan people have in the historical society?
    Are you asserting that they’ve been denied the opportunity?
    My Spanish/ Portuguese ancestors (Garcia) in California had their land stolen when California became a state that was a result of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
    If that’s the case then you should pursue legal action. I wouldn’t get my hopes up though.
    Then we could go back even further to the building of the Missions with slave labor of the indigenous populations.
    Because the mission system was a product of Spanish colonization is this a tacit admission that Ben Emery is descended from slave holders. This explains much about your obsession with the notion of “corruption of the blood”.
    If we look at history without the patriotic lens we would see the entire history of our nation is steeped in anything but liberty for all.
    Indeed….but the United States did pretty well compared to most other nations/empires historically. Not perfect….not horrible.
    The only shame I might feel personally from our history is that we are very selective in the retelling that history.
    Why would the “conscience of a nation” ever have cause to feel guilt or shame about any aspect of history?
    Truth shall set us free.
    Empty platitude.
    There are no amount of reparations that could satisfy the destruction of entire cultures and sometimes the extinction but would could do is acknowledge the history for what it is so we do not repeat it.
    No..no..no…..I’m pretty sure that you want to set the Wayback machine back to the meeting between the Arawaks and whomever showed on their beach and no further. If we’re going to do this lets do it right and wipe the slate clean entirely. How about pursuing the ancient Egyptians….or the descendants of the Mongol Hordes? What about the Assyrians or the Persians….I’m pretty sure that during their expansionist phase they trampled on someones lawn! While we’re at it we should probably go after the Romans and it just wouldn’t be right to let the Spaniards off the hook for their antics……Talk to me about reparations after you resolve these outstanding issues.

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  24. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Gee Ben, I was refering to the architurual influence of the Old World upon the New World. We even got some Chuck Dickens influence on the top of Broad Street in Nevada City, CA (a small berg a few thousand miles south of the Great Frozen Tundra).
    Don’t know what kind of architural influence that Attila the Hun left in his wake, but I thought I saw some yurls on the backside of Ananda in what then known as the “primitive area” years ago when I was prospecting up in their neck of the woods. Even once picked up an escapee hitchhiking from the primitive area. Actually, he was just sneaking out to buy himself a can of tuna and consume it with no witnesses. Guess living in those Attila tents gives one a real hankering for Starkiss Tuna. Yak, yak, pun intended.
    I love the architure of Ecuador, Columbia, Nigaruaga. Peru ain’t my favorite spot, Bolivia is great, but its the architure of Latin America I keep dear to my heart.
    Wasn’t talking culture Brother Ben. But now that you mention it, sleeping in old slave quarters or under totem poles kind of gives me the weebie geebies. Too many angry ghosts with wicked senses of humor. Stop by sometime and we’ll play cowboys and injuns.

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I was considering a lawsuit against the ancient Romans for enslaving my people of the white color. But, alas, the world of injustice has moved on. Ever notice that most Russians have a oriental look in their eyes? Genghis etal raped and pillaged the words people all the way to Poland. BenE, please help us Europeans who are the ancestors to the terrible invasions of Kublai Khan!
    Regarding the local Indians. They came across the Bering Straits and took the land from the people that were already here. I saw that on the History Channel. So, where is your outrage BenE?

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  26. George Rebane Avatar

    As have all group entities of living things – swarms, herds, flocks, colonies, prides,… – so have human families, tribes, ethnicities, cultures, kingdoms, and nation states competed for both survival and/or supremacy. And as long as there are limited resources such competitions will continue either to subjugation or even unto death. To believe otherwise does not suit the reasoned nature of the discussions and debates attended on these pages.
    We seem to have come to seeking peaceful coexistence only when our technologies of destruction became so powerful and dispersed that mutual destruction was the likely outcome of war. And then only until some other development came about that would tilt the advantage enough to make going at it once more worth the desired end.
    The first justification of contest and conquest was always to secure Lebensraum for us and ours. Then we developed more sophisticated reasons based on ideologies to brandish the sword – it was for the good of the soon to be vanquished. At first it was religions – true believers vs the heathens and infidels – following the dictates of their gods. But then came the dispensers of global social justice – true believers following the dictates of their godless philosophies – who have showed us what sums must be used to count human misery and death. ‘For the Good of Mankind’ is an altar on which the sacrifice of no amount of fellow humans will suffice.
    Whether fortunate survivors or the latest conquerors, we are all the inheritors of such a history. And we have invented nothing better that we can bequeath our children save a tentative peace that is built upon endless gains in technology and productivity. No stable point, no eternal pax humana has been identified or offered by any but the greatest killers to date. And among us the message of their ideological descendants is still alive and perhaps even ascendant.

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    How true George. But when a person such as BenE chooses to ignore all history except a few items that fit his model, then the explanation is clear. Hitler used faulty history to murder millions of human beings and without a blink. Stalin and Mao did too. Khan murdered countries of people and stacked their skulls at the front gates to tell the next city they better bow to him. But BenE and the social justice types would give up their own lives to further their cause. Oops, crap, no they wouldn’t. They would be the camp guards.
    Religion, especially the New Testament of Jesus should be totally accepted by BenE but we see he is unable to do that. All that is wrong with mankind may be fixed by accepting the Savior. BenE should try it.

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  28. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    I read the former mayor’s opinion piece in the Union. Somehow it was not behind the paywall. I read Mr. Paul’s last response to me. Seems like Nevada City has improved. If Paul says it is much better and the former mayor says they are getting people from blocking the sidewalks, then that is good news. Progress not perfection as the old saying goes.
    When the girls were young, I had two back to back bad experiences in Nevada City strolling around with them on a walk. The first was a VW bus (old hippy van type) literally drifted on the sidewalk at the corner of Broad and Pine and I had to jerk the girls back to avoid unspeakable disaster. The smell of reefer madness filled the air. Then there were young people screaming profanities into the air just for fun. Not family friendly in broad daylight. Then as we continued our walk, a freaky looking type was throwing ice cubes at us from his drinking cup.
    The second time (thinking it was just a fluke) was similar, except for the VW Bus incident. Did find it amusing that a young chick asked me for some spare change while breastfeeding her baby. Pretty girl, but again not family friendly. So I did not step foot in the historical district for a few years after.
    All this to say is I am gladdened to hear that the sidewalks are becoming less riddled with obstacles and necessary measures are beginning to take hold. Oh the people business is a messy business.

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  29. Ben Emery Avatar

    Bill,
    I know you were talking about the historical architecture and whose architecture do you think that is? The point, Nevada City is trying to hang onto its 150 plus year history when the history of the area inhabitants goes back thousands of years. Goes to show history we are taught is only a brief glimpses into history by those who sit in power allow to be celebrated.
    To answer my first question about the Spanish influence over the Americas was the Pope deemed it to be. In doing so he ignored the thousands of years of culture and history already lived in the Americans and started a massive genocidal conquest that is still taking place today with indigenous people.

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  30. fish Avatar
    fish

    To answer my first question about the Spanish influence over the Americas was the Pope deemed it to be. In doing so he ignored the thousands of years of culture and history already lived in the Americans and started a massive genocidal conquest that is still taking place today with indigenous people.
    Don’t you have someone to go be “In Solidarity” with?

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    What does Manifest Destiny mean to you?

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I think we have alreday fulfilled it PaulE. What does it mean to you?

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  33. Ben Emery Avatar

    Fish,
    I think a daily reminder of all the political actions going on around the world is now called for.
    Turkish police fire tear gas to break up Internet protest
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/08/us-turkey-internet-protest-idUSBREA170NK20140208
    Sarajevo hoses down following night riots
    http://www.reuters.com/video/2014/02/08/sarajevo-hoses-down-following-night-riot?videoId=276761722&videoChannel=117760
    General News about Asia civil unrest
    http://thediplomat.com/2014/01/protests-greet-new-year-in-southeast-asia/
    South Africa: Four killed at protest over water shortages
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25840703
    Brazil: Rio protest over transport fare rise ends in violence
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-26077374
    Trans-Pacific Partnership protests across North America; more than 45 communities will say No More NAFTAs!
    http://canadians.org/blog/trans-pacific-partnership-protests-across-north-america-more-45-communities-will-say-no-more
    Australia – protests over new shark cull rules
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/25996682
    Predator Sharks are indicator species that literally affect the rest of the marine ecosystem, which in turn impacts all ecosystems on the planet.

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  34. Paul Emery Avatar

    Pretty much Imperialism and conquest of those weaker than ourselves for the purposes of wealth and power.

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Yeah PaulE, we are just a imperialist country seeking wealth and power. Ever been south of the border PaulE? You wanna give back LA, and the rest of the Treaty lands to Mexico? Amazing. But pretty funny.
    BTW, is the journey to find wealth and power only America’s? Didn’t your Macedonian Greek conquer half the known world? Too funny.

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  36. fish Avatar
    fish

    I think a daily reminder of all the political actions going on around the world is now called for.
    Thanks Ben.

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  37. fish Avatar
    fish

    Pretty much Imperialism and conquest of those weaker than ourselves for the purposes of wealth and power.

    Or pretty much what humanity has done since its inception. One would think that this notion would make you a fairly ardent Christian Paul. Have I guessed incorrectly?

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  38. Ben Emery Avatar

    Paul,
    These authoritarians don’t get the point that all of their so called “success” was made much easier by having a male christian imperialistic system in place for centuries in the Americas. It isn’t a coincidence that white males in the US;
    -have been the majority making laws since day one in the US and virtually 100% until the mid 20th century.
    -own the most property
    -are compensated most for their labor
    -90% of Fortune 500 CEOS
    -have never been considered property
    -never been forbidden from voting or running for public office
    -have never been forbidden to own property
    -have never been forbidden to attend higher education
    -have the most accumulated wealth
    Us white males in the United States biggest attribute to our success is called “lucky sperm club”.

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  39. fish Avatar
    fish

    Us white males in the United States biggest attribute to our success is called “lucky sperm club”.
    Ah…now Bens torment is revealed! That he is only a poseur in the heirarchy of victims…….(Garcia)….establish the proper bona fides….check ….when his campaign photo make him look like the son of the 4th Earl of Kent…….Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
    If your father had only had you with a black or hispanic woman you might have stood a reasonable chance of turning into a reasonable human being.
    I knew that all your whining about authoritarianism was merely projection….it always is with you progressive “egg breakers”.

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  40. Paul Emery Avatar

    I’m just calling it for what it is Todd, Imperialism. You have no problem with that because we’re good and despite genocide on the native peoples they’re better off because of it. Tough love rithe? The conquest of those weaker than or=ourselves gave us free land and cheap labor the perfect formula for the golden era of Capitalism that many readers of this blog wish to return to.
    “Guns in our hands and god on our side”
    Bob Dylan

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  41. Paul Emery Avatar

    sp “Tough love right?”

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  42. Ben Emery Avatar

    Fish,
    We are cutting ones nose off to spite ones face aren’t we?

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    I wouldn’t let him bait you Todd…..the Emerys notion of sin starts and ends with “Perfidious Albion”. Pauls weeping for the natives on this continent doesn’t, and can’t address the joyful slaughter and slavery perpetuated by tribe on tribe.
    An Emery examination of history should really be re-titled:We’re Self Loathing White Guys….Please Don’t Hate Us!

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  44. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Yes PaulE, I am a manifest destiny guy but not an imperialist. Mexico got its ass kicked by Americans and the loss forced them to sign a treaty and give up lands they took from the natives. Now, why would you think that giving it back to them is a good idea? You still never answered that.
    America is powerful because it has believed the individual is important. No king, no politburo, no white sheets. You are a conflicted man apparently. Your Greek Macedonian conquered the known world. Why did he do that PaulE/
    BenE, you are a hoot. You claim “Garcia” now? You must be looking for some government affirmative action program for some free buckos. I met some people along the way of life, mostly women, who used their married Spanish name (even though they were GASP! White) to apply for jobs back in the days of guilt here in America. Real honest right? I bet you can justify all that because it is perpetrated against “white” people. You two Emery’s are the symptom of disaster for a great and fair country.

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  45. fish Avatar
    fish

    We are cutting ones nose off to spite ones face aren’t we?
    Not sure I’m taking your point here Ben. On another thread you claim, It is not about jealousy, envy, revenge, punishment, bitterness or any of the other reasons given by you guys but rather security against tyranny of the minority or minority rule governance. but come right back with more Class Warrior whining about “Lucky Sperm. Do you even know what your angry about Ben….as usual you’re all over the map? Your daily swoon over the “masses” as if mob rule would be some vast improvement isn’t convincing me at all!
    PS: Did you ever ponder the question I asked regarding the new female GM chairperson? She makes much less than her predecessor….is that a good or bad thing?
    Oh yeah…since you brought it up again…AUTHORITARIANISM…..any plans….any at all to back up the points on your list?

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  46. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Here are some details about the way indians were treated in California after the Gold Rush that should make you proud to be an ‘merican
    “In 1848, the United States acquired California from Mexico just in time for the Gold Rush of 1849. Now, the mountain tribes encountered European miners who saw Indian women as concubines and Indian men as slaves or even as shooting targets for sport. The newspapers of the time were filled with headlines about Indians being killed:
    “Good Haul of Diggers” [a slang term for Indian slave laborers in the gold fields]
    “Thirty-eight Bucks Killed”
    “Forty Squaws and Children Taken”
    “Indiscriminate Massacre of Indians — Women and Children Butchered”
    This last headline told of 188 peaceful Indian men, women and children killed in Humboldt Bay. The story was just a little too sympathetic to the Indians, so the editor was run out of town.
    From a high population of 300,000 before contact, Indians in California reached a low of 16,000 in 1900. According to Alvin M. Josephy in his book 500 Nations, the history of the California tribes “was as close to genocide as any tribal people had faced, or would face, on the North American continent.”
    http://www.pbs.org/indiancountry/history/calif.html

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  47. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    PaulE, in the converse you are stating you are NOT proud to be an American. Sorry for you PaulE. No allegiance to this great country must be painful. So, which country on the planet do you prefer? Are you just using the fruits of America for your own ends since you have no positive allegiance?
    Tell me PaulE, why do feel it necessary to carry such guilt and hatred for actions of others in the past? That is a treatable psychological problem. But, hey, if you want to hate, why not yourself. Your greedy, imperialistic ancestors came here and probably wiped out a few Indians themselves. Is that your problem? Did your ancestors commit genocide on the Indians? I know mine did not, so my conscious is clear.
    PaulE, do you hold the Arab/Muslim slave procurers responsible for their slavery of people today? How about the black chieftains that sold their people into slavery to the Arabs? Any twinge of anger there PaulE?

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Here PaulE, read this article and tell me George Bush and America just don’t give a shit about people.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Emergency_Plan_for_AIDS_Relief

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    I was just noting some details about you’re beloved Manifest Destiny that you might have overlooked in your history lessons.

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  50. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Never overlooked anything PaulE. When we ended at the Pacific, Manifest Destiny was complete. Many people on all sides lost their lives in the quest. I see you still never answer others questions. I have learned through reading about psychology that when you do not answer you are agreeing. Thanks.

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