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[This piece by Ms Jean Gerard was printed in the 4feb14 (paywalled) Union today.  Ms Gerard was not sure that it would be published, so she sent me the piece to appear on RR as her byline.  It is posted as received.  My own remarks are addended below.]

Jean Gerard

We’ve heard from several folks through The Union about multiple downfalls of the Commercial Street Boardwalk – folks who live and work in Nevada City and have to deal with the nuisance that it is on a regular basis.

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And I recently had a conversation with a gentleman who came here six years ago and loved our area. He had to leave for a few years, but recently returned and found a major change in the character of Nevada City. Not a change he praised. The trimmers, the pot smoking/selling, and the type of people in general the Boardwalk is attracting made it very distasteful to him. He was shocked. So it’s not just locals that notice the nuisance.

Marijuana isn’t the only business being conducted on and in the vicinity of the Boardwalk that’s not in alignment with that business district. If you read The Union on a regular basis you may remember that the Nevada City and Grass Valley Police did a ‘saturation patrol’ last August and arrested six people for drugs. Three of them were related to a heroin deal that happened right there on Commercial Street.


One employee of a business on that street told me they’d witnessed one person sitting on the sidewalk near the Boardwalk shooting up. In broad daylight.

If you read the Police blotter, you see that there are calls on a regular basis regarding the goings-on in that area.

And the city planner says there are no physical impacts!

Mr. Kevin Fraser wrote a very good article in which he stated, “It’s fascinating to watch as tourists turn the corner and encounter the scene on the boardwalk and then quickly reverse course….”

I heard from another person who works at a business on that corner who also has witnessed tourists turning around, rather than continue down Commercial Street.

Mr. Conley Weaver said “Vehicular traffic is congested by the effective narrowing of the street and the wanderings of the Boardwalk people.” I can tell you that, more than once, I’ve been stopped from driving down the street because of the people standing in the middle of it – ‘socializing’ – and not caring that any auto traffic needed to get through.

Recently, I took the time to visit businesses on Commercial Street and ask a few questions to see how the business owners and employees ‘really’ feel about the Boardwalk.  

Some of the questions I asked were the following: Has the Boardwalk increased or decreased loitering on Commercial Street?  Overwhelmingly, the majority said “increased.” Would you like to see the Boardwalk stay or go? Again, overwhelmingly, the answer was “GO.”

There were other questions that also got the majority of answers weighing against the Boardwalk, but the city planner and a couple of members of the city council would like you to believe everyone is happy with it.  That is not the case.  It is seen, as Mr. Weaver said, as Skid Row by many.

Downtown Nevada City is an Historical District. There has been a red light district in town before, so the red light on Pete’s Pizza, in front of the Boardwalk, might be considered ‘historical’. (It might also be one reason tourists turn around at the corner of Pine and Commercial). However, at no time in history that I know of, has a roadway been taken up for people to ‘sit and socialize.’

Back to Mr. Fraser’s article: he said that he votes. And that he would “vote against every person in every capacity that has had anything to do with the creation and continuance of this incredible public nuisance.”

Nevada City residents, you’ve got two councilmen who need to be replaced if you have any hope of regaining and maintaining Nevada City’s charm. One’s term is up this year. And any city planner who says “Whether you like it or not is not what is considered. We have to review it based on facts” is another person who needs to go. She’s clearly arrogant, but she’s also delusional when she thinks there are no negative impacts. She is ignoring the facts. I suggest you work with your city council on a plan to appoint a new planner.

The city council meeting on February 5th will be filled with Reinette Senum shills to talk up the Boardwalk. The council needs to recognize this and act accordingly. The Boardwalk needs to go.

[Addendum  The Commercial Street boardwalk pictured above was championed by former Nevada City mayor Ms Reinette Senum.  At the time it was completed I saw it as a charming addition to the off-Broadstreet scene.  I am not of the school holding that functional historical sites must retain every color and cornice the way it was during a given period.  Nevada City has undergone significant changes in its 160+ year history, and the one we now claim to retain captures none of its epochs faithfully.  But we have synthesized what to most people brings back echos of the fabled 19th century gold mining town in California’s motherlode.  And maintaining a semblance of that is good.

While not exactly a part of Nevada City’s history, the boardwalk does replicate outdoor settings that began to appear in European cities and along our east coast during the 1800s.  And having one in our town for tourists and locals to sit and take their ease on warm days and evenings is what the original intent of that construction was.  But as Ms Gerard points out, things don’t always go as hoped and planned, and many people today see that the locale has more than not gone to the dogs.  NC has a big welcome mat that also attracts a wide variety of transients, drug distributors, people with no visible means of support, and even out-and-out low lifes who today use that comfortable setting for their socializing and commerce.  I have witnessed it all while having coffee with friends in an adjoining establishment.  In short, if our inviting and permissive city code is helpless to improve the situation to the benefit of visitors and Commercial Street businesses, then the boardwalk appears to have become a public nuisance and liability to our tourist trade.  gjr]

[5feb14 update] Today’s Union published an Other Voices by Ms Reinette Senum presenting the motivation and beneficial aspects of the Commercial Street boardwalk.  All this publicity is in preparation for tonight’s city council meeting where the boardwalk will be discussed.  Here are the details – The Nevada City Council meets at 6:30 p.m. tonight at City Hall, 317 Broad St. It will also be televised on local public television, NCTV channel 17.  For some reason The Union has not published the Senum piece in its online edition.  I have captured her article as an image from the 5feb14 Union‘s print edition and posted it below.  Apologies for the aspect ratio of the image; too lazy to mess with it further.

Also, the report that Ms Gerard is a NC Tea Party member is false, and I have corrected my post to reflect this.

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108 responses to “The Nevada City Boardwalk (updated 5feb14)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    Lefties launch a defense of the Boardwalk here: http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2014/02/04/do-the-union-letter-writers-reflect-most-of-us-boardwalk-is-latest-example/
    It is time for a vigorous debate on the Boardwalk issue. Jeff P and Ms Reinette Senum are in full attack mode, claiming that none of us can speak for the whole community, they know best. Heh!

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  2. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    Thanks for having an open mind and not wanting to side with the strict rules of compliance of private property in historic districts. They have their place but can get a bit overbearing at times. The complaints that are levied against the boardwalk have nothing to do with the structure itself and have existed long before the boardwalk was installed. Overall it has been a positive for Nevada City.

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  3. Ben Emery Avatar

    Before people jump on it, yes I understand we are talking about public property in this case but was referring to Georges comment above.
    “I am not of the school holding that functional historical sites must retain every color and cornice the way it was during a given period.”

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    Before jumping to conclusions on this one should look at Ashland Oregon which has a thriving tourist industry that Nevada City has many times tried to emulate. They have a public area and a park right in the middle of town that draws hundreds of young people every night in the summer, many of which might be considered similar to the so called undesirables described by Jean Gerard. The bottom line is that Ashland thrives on tourism and has no problem with the situation.
    Worth thinking about.

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  5. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    I think that what business and property owners have to say is what matters. They’re the ones who would know the facts, and have to live with it. I think it’s disgusting that Mr. Pelline labels people who disagree with him “hard right” like some school yard bully.

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  6. Russ Steele Avatar

    Ellen and I stopped in Ashland, stayed over night in one of the touristy motels and ate at the local cafes. When we tried to use the Park we were forbidden entry. No Dogs Allowed. Our dog is better behaved and cleaner that some to the people we observed in the Park from the street side. Tourism friendly yes, Dog friendly NO!

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Bonnie, Pelline made his bed and now he sees no one likes him. Anyone who is not him is “hard right”. But why be upset with the term? To him it is an epithet, to me it is a badge of courage. He exhibits the worst of America the “hard right” the best. When he criticizes those that believe in the Constitution, smaller government and a balanced budget as “hard right”, he shows all he is the “loony left”. Too funny.
    Regarding the boardwalk. It is peopled by folks who are different, no doubt about it. They have gravitated from Callanan to this spot and that is a good thing. The little park was dark and eery and I heard you could buy your drug of choice there without much interference. The Boardwalk is lit up so when they do their drug sales you may get a glance at it. But hey, everyone needs a place to go and since Nevada City wants to attract tourists with money, why not have a outdoor Star Wars Boardwalk attract the monied tourist?

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Don’t see this as an earth shaking issue. Nevada City has always attracted a certain element with its charm and friendly quaint storefronts. Hey, if you wanna hang out, Nevada City is a lot better than that ugly stretch behind Goodyear Tire or the new Safeway where campfires get out of control on occasion. Definitely not as atheistically pleasing to the eye as Nevada City, a small burg just a pleasant drive from Graniteville.
    Since I normally avoid the historical district, I have no say in the matter. I have seen the sidewalk structure and driven slowly by it. Even stopped and sat down after circling round and round looking for a parking place. That new public parking off York street was ok, except there was a crazy dude hollering at the sky and blocking some poor dear tourist from backing up. My words to the local yokel did not help matters in the least, but I digress.
    The sidewalk platform and benches were not bad with the pretty flowers and all. Sure, the planter boxes were stuffed with nasty cigarette butts, but I didn’t mind. I was looking for a butt can anyway.
    Sure is a lot nicer than the dingy park Mr.Todd refereed to. I am proud of little Nevada City for opening its big heart and welcoming all comers, great and small. On leaving from my last visit to the Historical District, I was reminded of that Southern Hospitality saying, “Don’t be any stranger.”

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  9. Jeff Pelline Avatar
    Jeff Pelline

    Russ, check out all the dog friendly parks in Ashland, Ore.:
    http://www.ashland.or.us/Page.asp?NavID=8761
    As far as the Boardwalk, common sense will prevail tomorrow night, and the Boardwalk will continue. In fact, I’ll bet “Ms. Reinette Senum’s column” runs in The Union tomorrow, providing a more coherent and rational flip side of Jean Gerard of the Tea Party. (I ran into Brian Hamilton on the street, and we had a nice chat yesterday).
    Here’s what’s interesting. This group paints Reinette as an extremist. But when given the choice, the middle is embracing Reinette’s perspective on the Boardwalk, not the “hard right.”
    I’m increasingly convinced Todd is largely responsible for marginalizing this group. I recently asked a well-known conservative how the “Gang of Four” managed to win a majority of seats on the BOS. He answered with a straight face: “Todd.”
    As I explained to Bonnie, Nate Beason, who represents our family and many of yours, is a conservative. Sue McGuire , who ran against him, is “hard right.” Therein lies the difference.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Now isn’t that interesting. I was walking the streets and asked how the Gang of Four was booted and they said, Peter and Izzy. (NH 2020 proponents) Coincidence there Jeff Pelline? I am sorry, well maybe not, that you travel in such a small circle that you really don’t know anything about the county or the people in it.
    I actually appreciate the fear I put into the hearts of the small band of liberals here. We on the “hard right” have th high ground on most issues here. I do disagree about Senum. She used taxpayer money to raise some worms I am told. It was a failure and yet you try and make a heroine out of her failure. That’s what liberals do. Fail at almost everything then promote those who failed. You and your ilk, here locally, the state and the nation have promoted until you have reached the “Peter Principle”. You have wrecked the place. You are so proud.
    I also recall the newspaper started going to hell when you were the Editor Jeff Pelline. Was that all your fault or someone else? Word on the street it was you.

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  11. Barry Pruett Avatar

    The boardwalk is nice enough. I spend a lot of time in Nevada City for work, and I have experienced that it is a little difficult driving down that street when other traffic is approaching, but it is cute.
    The bigger issue is how Nevada City has changed over the passed 15 years. It just seems that there is quite a drug culture there. When walking down the street with my family, and my daughters asked me what that smell (weed) was, I was a little taken a back. It was the last time that we went there together. We spend much our time in Grass Valley…regularly drinking wine at Smith or Lucchesi on Friday evenings.
    Nevada City should try to determine what is leading to the drug culture there. Grass Valley has overtaken Nevada City in the “which Nevada County town is better” question.

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  12. Bonnie McGuire Avatar

    It’s amazing to me that good American people who actually like the Constitution and Bill of Rights they swear an oath to uphold, and we all enjoy, are considered extremists …or hard right by some. Very destructive.

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    Can anyone point to where Jeff Pelline referred to any local as “hard left”? “Moderate” vs “hard right” is his usual dichotomy, and he’s generally unable to notice differences between even left-libertarians and conservatives.It will be interesting to see how “purple” Nevada County will be in November.
    Crabb got JP right with his locally famous Cartman parody strip. Sweet.
    Regarding Nevada City and Ashland, no comparison can ever be made. Ashland is a wealthy college town 7 times the size of Nevada City, maybe 10 miles from a metropolitan center of 70,000 and part of a greater metropolitan area of 200,000. The Oregon Shakespeare Festival is destination quality professional theater with multiple venues that runs most of the year (this year it starts Feb 14 and runs into November). The cash flowing into the town is constant and considerable, and it’s closer to Medford than Nevada City is to Auburn, just 10 miles north on I-5.

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  14. Gregory Avatar

    Barry, my guess is NC has been more a part of the grower’s culture because it’s sleepier, the closest real town to the rowdy NSJ area that is more of a hotbed of growing, and the GVPD are more gung ho in busting loadies and drunks alike.
    Personally, I think the boardwalk is a wash; the inhabitants are generally well behaved, probably better than in the hangouts frequented before the boardwalk was built.
    If the businesses abutting it ever want to change the clientèle, I’d recommend Bach and Mozart at a low to medium volume.

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  15. Gregory Avatar

    How many have noticed the hydroponics supply billboard next to The Willo on ’49? Faces the traffic flowing from North San Juan into Nevada City.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    It is interesting to me that government at all levels will spend so much time on things like the Boardwalk and never ever figure out how to get the economy and jobs back as a priority. Nevada City leadership is no better than the Harry Reid Senate of the California Legislature. At least Grass Valley has some people with brains running the place.

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    Never one to hesitate from going off topic……
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/04/sheila-jackson-lee-writing-executive-orders-for-obama-to-sign-our-number-one-agenda/
    Look everyone……. it’s Bens democracy……..Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah!

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  18. Gregory Avatar

    I see Pelline has done his usual hack job on this thread back at his sandbox. No, Jeff, my comment about the billboard wasn’t about Nevada City, it was about North San Juan, not to mention some of the many growers in county territory down Newtown Road, which stretches from The Willo to Bitney Springs Road.

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  19. Ben Emery Avatar

    Thanks Barry and Gregory. Overall the boardwalk has been a positive for Nevada City and a negative for a very loud small group of people.

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  20. Ben Emery Avatar

    Fish,
    I am not for executive orders I am for democratic republic governance. Representation for the interests of the people not interests of big business.

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  21. Walt Avatar

    Speaking of the “boardwalk”,, wasn’t there a “hippy cam” trained on it for a while? Heck. It still may be up and running. Nev. City ( Nevada County for that matter)has turned into bum central. I have seen more than one bum pushing loaded shopping carts, up hill, on 49 just to “get there”. It didn’t matter what time of year. ” Build it,, and they will come”. ( Utah’s place, and other facilities of the like)
    But where are the “real” compassionate LIBS? How come they haven’t taken the bums into their own homes? The “Adopt a bum program”. ( we have programs for just about everything else.)

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  22. Gregory Avatar

    Not a net positive, Ben, just a wash, and the people who are offended by the boardwalk inhabitants are not without a rational basis; I suspect for every loud objector there are many quiet ones.

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    I draw your attention to the 5feb14 update and Ms Senum’s piece on the boardwalk that appears in the 5feb14 print edition of The Union.

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  24. RL Crabb Avatar

    So how many bums have you rescued, Walt?

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    I am not for executive orders I am for democratic republic governance. Representation for the interests of the people not interests of big business.
    But these are progressives Ben. Your people, with whom you share a common ideology. Those who govern to benefit all of humankind! Democracy is their god…why would they take action contrary to democratic progressive principles?

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  26. Gregory Avatar

    RL, wasn’t it Ms Senum pushing the building of what amounted to large doghouses to shelter the homeless?

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  27. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Walt, you are a hoot. We do seem to have many programs paid by the taxpayers to help the less fortunate. I do recall the FUE making a statement a couple of winters ago that he would use the yacht in his driveway as a shelter for those folks. The follow up on it though showed he was simply bloviating. No nme was allowed in the yacht.
    The point that seems to be missed about the Boardwalk is it takes up valuable road space and some parking slots. Their could be a real net loss in revenue when you add up the loss of parking fines and space for patrons on the street. Of course, maybe now that the DA’s office is in the old B of A, the cops might check the pockets of the drug dealers at the Boardwalk. Well, maybe not.
    I do appreciate the fact that Walt made and paid a lot of taxes when he was busy excavating and that money went to these feel good programs. I find it interesting that Utah’s Place is named after a self described socialist as well.

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  28. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Personally, I don’t get how this is at all a political football. What does right/left have to do with the boardwalk other than yet another dumbass line drawn in the sand to further divide people based on the political affinity of which local personalities support or don’t support the idea? Whoever it was that said local politics are so nasty because the stakes are so small was right on the money. It is up to the City Council to decide. If you are a resident of NC then go to the council meetings and express your opinion. If you are not a resident then it really isn’t any of your business just like local non-partisan elections are no business of national Super Pacs of any political stripe. It you don’t like the outcome just speak with your wallets. The market fixes all things, right? Every day our nation becomes more polarized, more divided and much of it is just plain petty BS like this.

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  29. RL Crabb Avatar

    Gregory11:41 – It’s just that I have a hard time understanding how you can mock people who are trying to help the homeless, no matter what their politics.

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  30. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Addendum — about the hydroponics sign by the Willo — so f—ing what? That is free market capitalism at work. They are doing nothing illegal. If it is OK to sell one of the most addictive substances on Earth (nicotine) in every grocery store in the country, it’s OK for someone to sell hydroponic supplies to someone who may or may not be growing pot. BTW CVS Pharmacies announced today that they will cease selling tobacco products as of 10/1/14. Given the documented health threats of nicotine use, they felt selling tobacco was hypocritical to their role as a health care provider.

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  31. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “I find it interesting that Utah’s Place is named after a self described socialist as well.” — Perhaps it is because he cared about the plight of the homeless and tried to help them out. Perhaps they should have named it the Todd “remember me I started CABPRO” Homeless Shelter and then locked the doors because the homeless don’t pay taxes. The county would still have to pay to bury them anyway after they starved, froze, or both so what is the difference? The main reasons people are homeless in America are medical bills and job loss. It is not because they are lazy and want to be on the dole.

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  32. Gregory Avatar

    RL, I wasn’t “mocking the homeless”, I was mocking those who thought building them doghouses was a solution. Ten points and a warm fuzzy gold star for caring from those who think it’s the thought that counts, zero for not actually helping things.
    The politics wasn’t and isn’t a consideration.

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  33. Gregory Avatar

    “about the hydroponics sign by the Willo — so f—ing what? That is free market capitalism at work. They are doing nothing illegal.”
    The “f—ing what” was simply pointing out an answer to what others were wondering… why the pot culture was so prevalent in Nirvana Silly. The store put their one (I assume it’s the only one) billboard just past Newtown Road and CA-49; I assume they know where their customers are from.
    I don’t give a flying you-know-what about people smoking pot discreetly and not being a danger to others, however, I know of at least one home in my neighborhood with a resident sociopath or two with anger management issues that has had a grow on and off for years, and that is not an uncommon happenstance. It’s a business choice that doesn’t attract a lot of former Eagle Scouts.

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  34. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Just drive down any freeway in CA and you are going to see billboards for pot distributors and recommendations and growing supplies. It’s big business. It’s now an accepted part of the culture and it’s everywhere. People ought to just get used to it.

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  35. Gregory Avatar

    So, Koyote, do you think tobacco companies should be allowed to advertise again? After all, it’s everywhere and engravings of dead US presidents who were tobacco farmers are in wallets worldwide.
    No, commercial growing and public use isn’t even close to being an accepted part of the culture… legalization does not mean acceptance, it means it isn’t considered criminal by a majority, and that’s a good thing. Alcoholism isn’t criminal, either, but few accept it as behavior to be “accepted”.
    RL, rereading, you didn’t claim I was mocking the homeless, sorry.
    If it’s wrong to mock politicians who undertake boneheaded crusades, your own income would go to zero, and doghouses for the homeless is no solution even if the problems of security and placement were not solved (and found to be unsolvable) before the dog and pony show of a big construction party or two to make them.
    One of the great Tom Lehrer lines from a half century ago… “We are the Folk Song Army, every one of us … cares! We all hate poverty, war and destruction, unlike the rest of you squares.” And that’s from a fellow who is as firmly on the left as Rebane is on the right.

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  36. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    1) Who said anything about commercial growing? I was referring to growing for medical/personal use only as the law allows. And the original complaint was about a hydroponics sign which is in the eye of the beholder. You saw the sign and though “pot” someone else might see “bean sprouts” .. not quite the same as an ad for Marlboro. 2) I guess “acceptance” is how you define it. Recent polls indicate over half of all Americans think pot should be legalized and regulated. If that isn’t acceptance, what is? 3) There is no beneficial anything to tobacco. There are very few positive aspects to alcohol. There are no documented harmful effects or deaths from pot and many positives. You are comparing avocados to trout to rabbits, three different substances, each of which needs to be addressed separately. Personally, as the biggest known cause of cancer, I would ban tobacco advertising altogether and I bet health care costs would go down.

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  37. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    JoeK, as usual you always get me to laugh. You libs don’t do anything for the homeless yet claim the folks like me are evil anti homeless and poor advocates. That is why I laugh. You personally probably have never helped a person in need with your own time and money. Tell us the truth now, you are a piker right? I bet your donation line on the tax form is a big fat zero, right? Of course you will lie and say it isn’t, but we all know the libs lie about everything (see Gore and Biden tax returns). We on the right don’t pat ourselves on the back about helping others like you hypocrite libs. We just do it and move on. You want us o give you an award because you care. Ahhh, so sweet.
    Regarding Utah. Many people care about the homeless. I would say Bill Schultz should have had the honor of the name. He did more for the homeless and addicted than any lib but golly, he was a Republican, not a socialist so they passed him by. So JoeK, tell us all right here how you spend your resources on the poor. Oh, can’t? What a hoot!

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    I would ban tobacco advertising altogether and I bet health care costs would go down.
    Yeah….because nobody smoked before Joe Camel showed them the way.

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  39. Paul Emery Avatar

    It is estimated that MJ cultivation in Nevada County is a 200 Million annual business which far dwarfs logging, mining or any other industry in our county. This is based of course on estimations but statewide cultivation is a 14 Billion a year enterprise. These numbers can’t be proven however they are generally accepted as in the ball park. Any way the “trickle down” is huge for retail, real estate and school incomes. With our economy being as fragile as it is we should not bite the hand that feeds.

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  40. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Yeah….because nobody smoked before Joe Camel showed them the way.- your kidding right? The link between advertising, particularly to teens, and smoking is well documented by many liberal do-gooder university studies. However studies by the American Tobacco Institute inform us that smokers are calmer and more successful, oh yeah, and better public speakers.

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  41. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Estimated crop value? How the heck is that possible? Also, the sale of it derives no tax for the population. I say if the stuff is grown let us have a tax like Colorado just passed. 25%. What do you say PaulE?
    I see JoeK is the chicken I knew he was. Never answers but hey, libs are all liars anyway. Too funny.

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  42. fish Avatar
    fish

    Yeah….because nobody smoked before Joe Camel showed them the way.- your kidding right?
    Your difficulties with sarcasm are hardly my responsibility. Joe Camel has been banished to the nether regions of advertising and apparently the teen smoking rate has started creeping up again anyway.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/04/fda-anti-smoking-ads/5186731/
    I guess you couldn’t save them after all Joe Kamel!

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  43. fish Avatar
    fish

    Posted by: Paul Emery | 05 February 2014 at 02:50 PM
    Damn Paul….agreement twice in one week! This and we’re expecting more rain. Getting weird out there!

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  44. Bonnie McGuire Avatar
    Bonnie McGuire

    Regarding the homeless problems in Nevada City and Grass Valley. The only difference is the size of the towns and what we hear from the local media. Grass Valley has a big problem. Some businesses would like to be able to put up fences. I feel sorry for down and out homeless people, but know the biggest contributor to it are addiction to drugs and alcohol….according to the stats. We all contribute to helping poor people…through taxes (welfare etc), donations to charitable institutions like the Salvation Army and other churches, and Hospitality House. But in order to get help individuals who need help have to do their part. They have to want a better life and make the effort to change. As a County Health Director once said, “It’s a waste of time and money trying to help someone who doesn’t want to change their behavior.” Until this happens big time everyone had better keep their house and vehicles locked, because these sad souls are desperately trying to survive their addictions.

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    I believe there will be a Proposition on this Fall’s ballot to legalize and tax recreational Marijuana. Nice to know it will have your support. Wanna gather signatures? I’m sure they can use some help.

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  46. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    PaulE, where in my comment did I say I supported your pot garden? Still putting words in other people’s mouths. Too funny.

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  47. Paul Emery Avatar

    In your words Todd:
    “I say if the stuff is grown let us have a tax like Colorado just passed. 25%.”

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Where in that is a support from me?

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  49. Paul Emery Avatar

    So then I take it you’re in favor of criminalization and support all the taxpayer dollars that it takes to enforce it.

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  50. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Where did I say that?

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