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‘A Future of Failure?: The Flow of Technology Talent into Government and Civil Society’ was just published by Freedman Consulting, a progressive policy consultancy run by former staffers of Democrat administrations.  This important report was sponsored by the MacArthur and Ford Foundations, organizations that are much in tune with leftwing causes and central planning.  It recognizes failures – most notably healthcare.gov – by all levels of government to understand, incorporate, and operate systems that have a high technology component.

The report is timely, given what has happen and what portends for Americans as the federal government continues to stumble and bumble in such efforts to inject themselves more and more into our lives and fortunes. Through extensive interviews with government and “civil society” (i.e. NGOs and non-profits) officials and management, the authors conclude that governments are woefully lacking in STEMM (they add ‘medicine’ for the extra ‘M’) knowledge and expertise.  RR readers will not be surprised by any of the factual aspects and even most of the conclusions in the report. 


As an erroneous example of this, they blame the healthcare.com fiasco on such shortcomings.  While their overall premise is correct, they err here because the disastrous development of that website and its IT back end had little to do with government managers’ understanding of STEMM.  What they didn’t have were the most basic skills in structuring and executing a procurement program.  The disciplines they lacked and failed to exercise would have caused them to equally screw up everything from the building of a barn to buying trucks for the military.  And indeed, these civil servant types, appointed and hired, have demonstrated such ineptitude for as long as memory serves.  That is a prime reason why it is common knowledge to all but the hard Left that government should be entrusted with as little as absolutely necessary to serve the common weal.

But back to the report.  Given the bent of the report’s authors and sponsors, their ginger treatment of established and systemic government ineptitude is understandable.  For example they observe that the reason qualified STEMM people leave government in droves and opt for private industry is that for-profit companies “may” provide higher compensation, a more stimulating work environment, and advancement based on merit.  No $h!t Red Ryder.

In spite of such softballing, the report is well written and accompanied by informative tables and graphics.  Its key findings that explain government IT related failures are summed as –

•    The Current Pipeline is Insufficient (not enough people are being educated/trained in IT and STEMM fields while our students continue to “slip” – more here),
•    Barriers to Recruitment and Retention Are Acute (no competent practitioner wants to work with C students managed by double dummies),
•    A Major Gap between the Public-Interest and For-Profit Sectors Persists (it seems that the private sector fosters “a culture of innovation, openness, and creativity that (is) seen as more appealing to technologists.”  Gasp!),
•    A Need to Examine Models from Other Fields (Yep, about time they try finding out what work is like where the motto on the wall is something other than ‘CYA all the way!’),
•    Significant Opportunity for Connection and Training (they mean connecting and being trained in the thinking and ways of dispensing largesse from government on high),
•    Culture Change is Necessary (correct, but well-nigh impossible in environments that worship stasis, eschew risk, and depend on altruistic ‘go along to get along’ behavior).

All that being said and done, this report should be viewed as an intra-progressive communication that seeks to explain a continuing and now growing stream of government failures in a world becoming ever more technology dependent.  It doesn’t and can’t come right out and say that things are as they are because such bureaucracies with perverse embedded feedback systems can only be tolerated by people who are either scheming climbers or stupid and/or ignorant.  The basic message of this remarkable document reinforces the fundamental progressive precept that a growing gush of proactive public policies, based on central planning by an expanding government, are required to deliver an acceptable quality of life to Americans.

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266 responses to “‘A Future of Failure?’ – A Timely Progressive Lament”

  1. Ben Emery Avatar

    It seemed like when workers earned a living wage with benefits companies did fairly well so what makes you think labor accounts for more of the over cost today than it did 50 years ago? If it does, why?

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  2. fish Avatar
    fish

    Don’t worry George I have plenty more examples of fascist/ corporatist and authoritarian leanings and positions. I will try and post one a day for awhile until the idea hits home that outside of the American Revolution you take the side of authority almost every time.
    George….I’d just admit that you’re an “authoritarian” (your definition certainly isn’t the same as Bens and I doubt Bens is within hand grenade range of Websters) so Ben can stand promethean, before the denizens of Nevada City and claim rhetorical victory over the vile authoritarian and his hated band of crime thinking minions!
    It’ll be a nice Christmas present.

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  3. Gregory Avatar

    “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
    “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
    Just because Ben thinks “authoritarian” means “ant-Ben” doesn’t mean anyone should agree with him. One dictionary says it’s
    “favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, esp. that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom” and I don’t see anyone making that case here, except maybe Ben.

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  4. Ben Emery Avatar

    Greg and Fish,
    Two sorry sacks indeed. Defending such policies that you would have lawsuits filed in a matter of minutes of the incident happening to yourselves. Greg threatens people with legal action if they hurt his feelings. And Fish is so courageous he doesn’t use his real name. Imagine being talked to by law enforcement like this for no valid reason other than they can do without recourse. What would you do? According to your ridiculous defense of George’s positions it sounds like you would thank the officer and encourage them to continue harassing you in the future if it meant your “safety”.
    excerpt from “Hunted and Hated”
    “In the course of the two-minute recording, the officers give no legally valid reason for the stop, use racially charged language and threaten Alvin with violence. Early in the stop, one of the officers asks, “You want me to smack you?” When Alvin asks why he is being threatened with arrest, the other officer responds, “For being a fucking mutt.” Later in the stop, while holding Alvin’s arm behind his back, the first officer says, “Dude, I’m gonna break your fuckin’ arm, then I’m gonna punch you in the fuckin’ face.”

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  5. Gregory Avatar

    Lawsuits from citizen to citizen is how torts are resolved, Ben, and a defamation is far more than “hurt feelings”; it’s a lie that damages another person or persons. What you are asking for, over and over, is for some law to be put into place to criminalize what you don’t like, everywhere you look.
    That’s authoritarianism, Ben style.

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  6. fish Avatar
    fish

    Whose defending anything Ben? That I don’t get as overwrought over these things as Nevada City’s preeminent concern troll is your problem not mine. How bout it Ben….didja unpack your Invisble Knapsack today paleface?
    What a ween!
    Look Ben….yeah…over there in the corner….it’s climate change…go get it!

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    And Fish is so courageous he doesn’t use his real name.
    A student of history like the oh so intellectual Ben Emery should know that anonymous blogging/writing/commenting is a well established tradition. I mean if authoritarianism reigns I shouldn’t have any fear of losing a job or having my home vandalized, or my family threatened by posting unpopular opinions and yet that’s the lefts stock in trade. Just look at your fellow lefty Michael ….always cataloguing…always documenting….always threatening. Just as soon as I shed my current employment I’ll be brave Ben….pinkie swear!
    Until I can establish my own mountain lair I need to stay employed and let’s be honest Ben, it’s not easy to score a kush gig like driving the manure spreader……you ol 1 percenter you.

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  8. Gregory Avatar

    Let’s look at Ben logic
    Here’s audio of a stop and frisk from some activists that sure sounds like a couple of racist cops going way over the line….
    Therefore, the whole stop and frisk program is racist and therefore must stop. After all, 9 of 10 murders are by people of color, and only one of ten people stopped and frisked are people of pallor. Must be racist.
    That reminds me a bit of an old Dilbert cartoon my wife used teaching that Sierra College competency math course… the pointy haired boss was up in arms about 40% of his engineer’s sick days being called in for Monday and Friday. Her question… “Why is that funny?”
    Ben, when cops do bad things, that’s a job for the courts that use the rules of evidence and the rights of the accused to get at the truth, and seek redress if the FACTS support it.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 647pm – I was moot on Nelson Mandela’s imprisonment during the Reagan years. All I knew then was that he was a self-avowed communist who was convicted for plotting the destruction of South Africa’s infrastructure.
    But that you consider support of federal border violation laws by illegal aliens a far rightwing excess will stand as a matter of record on these pages. Please do give us more such examples.

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    ….meanwhile on planet Emery….a world much like our own
    A British sandwich shop owner offered this remark on Twitter: “My PC takes so long to shut down I’ve decided to call it Nelson Mandela.” Poor taste? Yes. Illegal? The police thought so.
    This is what happened next. The police came. They arrested him. They confiscated his computer. They fingerprinted him. They ran a DNA test. He was held at the police station for eight hours.
    “Where is freedom of speech?” he asked. Missing in action. But it is a wonderful memory. It provided comfort for so many people in the West.
    When British police arrest a man for a politically incorrect one-liner, the land of the Magna Carta, trial by jury, and common law has entered the Twilight Zone.
    This illustrates North’s law of bureaucracy: “Some bureaucrat will inevitably enforce an official rule to the point of imbecility.”

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  11. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Lawsuits, lawsuits, everywhere a lawsuit. Do this, don’t do that, hey, can’t you read the sign?
    No, can’t read cause it ain’t in Spanish or Mong and I am a product of our public education system.
    Lawsuits, lawsuits.
    http://www.judicialhellholes.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/JudicialHellholes-2013.pdf

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  12. Ben Emery Avatar

    George advocates disenfranchisement for those who do not meet his values of intelligence and reasoning for voting. Wanting others to live under the rule of law they do not participate in creating. Basically when coupled with other ideas he advocates only those who can afford education would be eligible to vote, we tried a defacto version of these ideas before and it produced human beings as property, women included as property for all intents and purposes. Why is it the right wing ideologues on this blog have a tendency to fall right in line with US South on so many issues? It is another example of authoritarian tendency of this blog.
    http://www.umich.edu/~lawrace/disenfranchise1.htm
    Techniques of Direct Disenfranchisement, 1880-1965
    “Direct” disenfranchisement refers to actions that explicitly prevent people from voting or having their votes counted, as opposed to “indirect” techniques, which attempt to prevent people’s votes from having an impact on political outcomes (e.g., gerrymandering, ballot box stuffing, stripping elected officials of their powers).
    The 15th Amendment prohibited explicit disenfranchisement on the basis of race or prior enslavement. So Southern states devised an array of alternative techniques designed to disenfranchise blacks and, to a lesser extent, poor whites. There were three broad, overlapping phases of the disenfranchisement process. From 1868-1888, the principal techniques of disenfranchisement were illegal, based on violence and massive fraud in the vote counting process. Starting in 1877, when Georgia passed the cumulative poll tax, states implemented statutory methods of disenfranchisement. From 1888-1908, states entrenched these legal techniques in their constitutions. Here we explore the principal means of direct disenfranchisement, and the attempts to use Federal law to prevent disenfranchisement, through 1965, when the Voting Rights Act was passed. For the most part, until the advent of the Civil Rights Movement in the 20th c., the Supreme Court acquiesced in the methods used to disenfranchise blacks by gutting the Federal laws enacted to protect blacks. Whenever it resisted, the Southern states followed the motto “if at first you don’t succeed. . . .”

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  13. fish Avatar
    fish

    Why is it the right wing ideologues on this blog have a tendency to fall right in line with US South on so many issues? It is another example of authoritarian tendency of this blog.
    So what are you going to do about it Ben? This blog I mean….
    That’s right…nothing!
    My but you are a tedious little boy.

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  14. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    No fish, BenE will do his best to deny all who disagree with him the right to have their opinion. He is a tyrant. He is probably happy about the fellow in England who was shu up, arrested and booked for his utterance this week. The left are the true fascists.

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  15. fish Avatar
    fish

    BenE will do his best to deny all who disagree with him the right to have their opinion.
    Whatever….!
    I was only half kidding when I suggested that George should just give Ben the catharsis that he seems to need so desperately by admitting to …..oooh……AUTHORITARIANISM.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I agree fish but the scary thing is people like BenE get elected and implement their terror on opponents.
    Regarding AUTHORITARIANISM. I admit I did discipline my children by sending them to their corner wjile misbehaving. I do recall as well that I fully funded the Sheriff’s Office so he could get the bad guys. I guess I am. Darn! I have lost the respect of Mr. BenE. Oh whoa is me.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    re BenE’s 619am – the careful reader will note that BenE continues with his allegations of my purported ‘authoritarianism’ and ‘disenfranchising’ without presenting anything that I have written – i.e. sans any evidence whatsoever. This is a typical leftwing tactic that dates back to the days of Lenin, the Stalinist show trials, and most recently Kim’s killing of his uncle. The condemning words of the accused are supplied by the prosecution. The liberal at his best uses the ‘we know what you really meant/thought/said’ approach I have described here –
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2013/08/we-know-what-you-really-saidthoughtmeant.html
    They really never get tired of it because its the only tool they have for anything ranging from debate to a court of law.

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  18. fish Avatar
    fish

    George 8:31
    That was a pretty good thread.

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  19. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    That evil greedy bastard David Koch is donating too much money to cancer research and foolishly gave 35 million to the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History and 100 million to preserve and restore the humble digs of the New York City Ballet and the New York City Opera. He even went so far to fund the long running PBS series “Nova”. A despicable right winger he is. Somebody stop him. There oughta be a law.
    http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/FoundationsDHK.asp

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  20. Gregory Avatar

    George, I think it’s an issue of rationality and literacy, not left vs. right. Empty headed right wingers obsessed with the caricature of leftists they carry around in their heads seem to have the same basic affliction.
    A case in point… An anarchist of sorts; I can’t remember the kook’s name, but the fellow who took over the local Libertarian Party a decade ago (Lance something? Google to the rescue… Lance Brown) was a dead ringer for Ben’s style of argument but with a different set of delusions. Had a grand scheme to be the LIB presidential candidate that he eventually abandoned.
    I’m still waiting for Ben to support his “algebra is a useless subject” claim.

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  21. fish Avatar
    fish

    A case in point… An anarchist of sorts; I can’t remember the kook’s name, but the fellow who took over the local Libertarian Party a decade ago (Lance something? Google to the rescue… Lance Brown) was a dead ringer for Ben’s style of argument but with a different set of delusions. Had a grand scheme to be the LIB presidential candidate that he eventually abandoned.
    Maybe there’s a nice cage into which they can both be thrown….the survivor still gets no respect.

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  22. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Geez, talk about ‘authoritarianism’ and ‘disenfranchising’. There is a perfect example that needs no further explaination.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/union-turmoil-could-force-boeing-to-move-production/article/2540381?utm_campaign=Fox%20News&utm_source=foxnews.com&utm_medium=feed
    He who owns the gold makes the golden rules’

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  23. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    You know what has been said but here you go. What all my examples will add up to is a nation and government run by a small few people who suppress and oppress those who oppose their policies.
    “To undertake an exercise in fashioning a ‘better’ voting system I would like to proceed by first framing such an effort in a reasonable manner, and then see where that would take us. And the starting point should be to get a common understanding of ‘better’, or to define a voting franchise utility (VFU) function. I’ll offer that a VFU will highly rate –
    • Adherence to the Constitution as amended, specifically excluding strictures based on race, religion, gender, political persuasion, sexual preference, ethnicity, previous condition of servitude, etc.
    • Maximize the expected number of franchised voters, but err in the direction of minimizing unqualified voters,
    • Pareto-optimality (see below),
    • Require some demonstration of minimum cognitive function and relevant knowledge base.”
    Right Wing Ideologue Paul Weyrich in 1980 who was one of the founders of Heritage, ALEC, and worked for the Reagan campaign/ administration. He his speaking to a Christian group about politics and voting, which is against the intent of Constitution and the law.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    George….I think Ben wants you to take a look at his school project…I think he was assigned something about voting. You know how important praise from a father figure can be to an impressionable youngster!

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  25. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 738pm – Excellent Ben! And I stand by everything that you quoted. Now you connect that to your charges and demonstrate your own understanding of the written word.

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  26. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    I know you stand by wanting to force people to vote according your ideology. Since this is a blog lets make it simple. According to your VFU standards or function.
    Lets say a person thinks the US Constitution is bogus or is just wrong.
    Would they be a qualified voter?
    Shouldn’t they as a human being have a say in the laws that they have to live under?
    Lets say a person was raised in a poor area and went to lousy schools and couldn’t read. Both of their parents could barely read. When finished with school this person works a job that allowed them to live but enough to seek higher education.
    Would they be a qualified voter?
    Shouldn’t they as a human being have a say in the laws that they have to live under?

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  27. Ben Emery Avatar

    George and his followers believe if a nation has the military force to back up aggressive policies they have the right to use aggressive military actions. Might is Right. This is stripping the civil liberties of those who live in those nations who are on the receiving end of our aggressive policies.
    “George,
    What you essentially said in your Feb 5 responses was that if a country has the ability to be the aggressors it is a viable option. This is the reality but it is the antithesis of individual liberty, natural or legal rights. I understand it is the working paradigm but outside of when I was around 14 years old haven’t accepted it as the moral or correct paradigm. It appears you seem to be fine with it as long as you are on the aggressor side of the action. When violence is answered with violence it is a genocide pact or perpetual violence. When violence is answered with due process and legal consequences violence can be stopped.”
    “BenE 937am – Didn’t mean to say anything “essentially”. The ability to be an aggressor is a “viable option” for a country. It has been so forever, and will continue to be so. That is why countries develop weapons, field militaries, and sign hopeful treaties. Whether we believe in it or not, ‘might is right’ is the operating paradigm of nation-states.”

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 554++am – Your reasoning continues to be deficient and demonstrably fearsome if/when you and yours come to power.
    Nowhere have I argued for ‘forcing people’ to vote my ideology. As is most people’s, my belief system is also imperfect. That is why I run RR and we have these debates. That you equate ‘force’ with the defense of one’s beliefs with reason is a remarkable declaration.
    I have already detailed my beliefs about the Constitution, its legitimate modification, and the minimum qualifications to exercise the vote.
    ‘Might is right’ has been and continues to be the reality in international relations. I believe that the US has been the most moral, generous, and beneficent-to-mankind superpower in history. (Ben, the operational word here is ‘most’.) Can we be better at wielding our power? You bet. But it is our wielding of power over most of the last hundred years that has provided and maintained what you call ‘civil rights’ for those in the world that have them.

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  29. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    Do you want to reduce the eligible voting pool from virtually all citizens in our nation over the age of 18 to only those who meet your criteria?

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 921am – I will stand with what I wrote in my Union column as addended.
    http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/09/who-can-work-who-may-vote.html

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  31. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    So yes you want some kind of test for people to have the privilege to vote thus reducing the voting populace to those who could pass such a test. I am not trying to play gotcha and am verifying.

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  32. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 936am – My goodness, there may be hope yet. Yes Ben, that indeed should be the takeaway from the piece cited in my 1124am.

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  33. Ben Emery Avatar

    George and his 4 or 5 cohorts continuously defend the authority to use force in Afghanistan and Iraq (among other places) despite the people or governments of those nations posed no imminent threat to the United States. Millions of people have either been displaced, injured, PTSD, or killed due to this policy that might is right. Everyone of those millions have family and friends or just acquaintances that now hate the US or at least its government/ military. We went from maybe a few hundred disillusioned terrorists to who knows the number today.
    -19 hijackers
    -15 Saudi
    -Major Financiers of 9/11 and al Qaeda Saudi
    -Osama bin Laden Saudi (never charged with 9/11)
    US goes into Afghanistan and Iraq. We round up without charges thousand Muslims. Jail them, torture them, and refuse to all them any sort of due process. I think only one conviction in over a decade of this immoral and war criminal behavior.
    -US tortures (my opinion with contractors in charge not US military trained commanders)
    -US destroys the country with military action
    -US occupies and sets marshal law
    -US puts up walls
    -US uses chemical weapons (white phosphorus and depleted uranium)
    -US carves up Iraq Oil Fields in 2001 prior to 9/11
    -US spies on Americans in 2001 prior to 9/11
    But you guys continually defend this actions. I could go on and on but we get the point; if the rights and lives that are being destroyed aren’t yours or you loved ones your are at least indifferent and worst supportive.

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  34. fish Avatar
    fish

    I could go on and on…….
    and on and on and on and on…………

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  35. Gregory Avatar

    Ben Ben Ben
    The US went into Afghanistan after Afghani-based terrorists flew airliners into a couple buildings in NYC.
    The US sent troops to fight Iraq when Iraq’s dictator invaded a neighbor who we’d rather have bought our oil from. The US later invaded Iraq when we got tired of them violating the cease fire shooting at our (and British) planes keeping them from killing their least favored minority groups while we were wrestling with the Afghani tar baby.
    The UN subscribes to a “you broke it, you bought it and have to fix it” model. I think we should have countered with a “they broke themselves and if they can’t fix themselves with some help, we’ll let their neighbors take them over” model. In fact, the latter still works for me.

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  36. Ben Emery Avatar

    Greg,
    Why do you think the US has the authority to do such things?
    19 terrorists hijacked planes and did horrific acts not the people or the government of any other nation. If there is a nation that had the most to do with 9/11 it was Saudi Arabia but we have a President who has long family ties with one of the most brutal dictatorships on the planet so Saudi Arabia gets a pass. I wouldn’t of supported an invasion of Saudi Arabia either since 9/11 was not a state action it was a criminal action perpetrated by individuals. Investigate and go after legally those who trained and funded the plan. Instead we get into a holy war, which George and his 4 or 5 followers at least agree with enough to stay quiet on RR or aggressively support.

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  37. Gregory Avatar

    Ben, it’s basic international law; you can hit back.

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  38. Ben Emery Avatar

    Greg,
    No need to try and debate. You agree with policies that go against liberty and freedom of others. It’s alright you’re just solidifying my position.

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  39. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BenE, I never realized you are a warmongering man. Thanks for letting us know.

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  40. Gregory Avatar

    “You agree with policies that go against liberty and freedom of others.”
    To the contrary, as a libertarian on the fairly radical side, I believe in freedom of choice on everything and the smallest government possible, but no smaller. In the case of military adventurism from GHW Bush to Clinton to GW Bush to Obama, the Congress granted the war powers being exercised. IIRC even Hillary Clinton voted for them.
    Aided and abetted by what passed for a government in Afghanistan, Al Qaida destroyed a major piece of New York City and killed thousands of people in an act of war. That Ben Emery apparently thinks the FBI should have been sent in to solve the crime and apprehend the perps cannot be helped by anyone but Ben Emery.
    Had my presidential pick in ’88 been elected the precursors to 9/11 would not have been in place but as Hell did not freeze over, it was Bush I not Ron Paul in the Oval Office when Iraq overran its neighbor.
    The Constitution isn’t a suicide pact, Ben.

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  41. George Rebane Avatar

    I wonder what “liberties and freedom of others” BenE is referring to in his 1038am.

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  42. Ben Emery Avatar

    Guys,
    I repeat, no need to try and debate the issue. There is nothing we haven’t said before.
    George,
    Would you say a foreign nation that we posed no threat to invading, occupying, overthrowing the government, marshal law, all the while displacing, destroying, injuring mentally/ physically, and killing innocent civilians would be violating our liberties and freedoms? You don’t see it you are blinder than I thought.

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  43. Ben Emery Avatar

    George,
    I am talking about a foreign nation doing those things to the USA.

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  44. fish Avatar
    fish

    Gentlemen, gentlemen, …..gentlemen!
    We’re not getting anywhere here…..Ben has has smoked out a den of crimethinkers…your protestations to the contrary will not sway his judgements.
    …and Ben, a future congressman and all round “A” student should recall that the term “marshal” has nought to do with war little to do with war in this context.
    marshal
    märSHəl/verb
    1. arrange or assemble (a group of people, esp. soldiers) in order.
    “the general marshaled his troops”
    (don’t let this sentence throw you…marshal really addresses the organization of things)
    synonyms: assemble, gather (together), collect, muster, call together, draw up, line up, align, array, organize, group, arrange, deploy, position, order, dispose

    the term for which I believe you search is…”martial”…. pertaining to matters of war and soldiery.
    martial
    märSHəl/adjective
    1.of or appropriate to war; warlike.
    “martial bravery”
    synonyms:military, soldierly, soldier-like, army, naval

    My best to President Camacho when you see him in D.C.!

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  45. Ben Emery Avatar

    Fish,
    You are correct, my bad. Martial Law. Most of the corrections that are pointed out are trivial but this one is legit. When you are typing in the back of barn trying to get back to work a person makes many mistakes. No way to contact me outside of online at work. One and done is all the time I have for many of these comments.
    Have a very Merry Christmas and I will send out a prayer for you tomorrow night when I will be burning a yule log in the great outdoors.

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  46. Ben Emery Avatar

    Lets move back to voter id disenfranchisement. The only place where a poor person has a say in their government is through their vote. So make laws that target the poor, elderly, college students, and especially people of color. The way to actually have the governed dictate to the government what their needs and wants are is through the vote. Restrict poor peoples ability to vote and make outcomes of elections solely upon spending money and we get what we currently have. Over 9 out of 10 candidates who spend the most money in their campaign win. Tomorrow I will get into money in politics.
    Despite years of investigations, tens of millions of dollars, the push back and eventual dismissal of US attorney’s, and voter fraud convictions of something like 0.0001% you guys support voter id disenfranchisement laws. Most voter fraud convictions are a mistake like voting in the wrong district or trying to vote while being a felon in a state that denies felons the ability to vote despite serving their time.
    These new voter id disenfranchisement laws are specifically targeted at those who generally vote for the democratic party and are easiest to spot. You guessed it the color of a persons skin is the key indicator that they are going to be challenged. This goes back to the inequality and the long history of oppression and suppression of people of color.
    This is a great summary of the new ALEC model legislation voter id disenfranchisement laws.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830

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  47. fish Avatar
    fish

    Right back at you Ben! Merry Christmas!

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  48. Paul Emery Avatar

    Anyone who thinks that the whole push to make voting more difficult is not politically motivated to discourage voting by those inclined to lean Democratic is hopelessly naive. It’s so obvious and in reality quite a potentially successful strategy. It’s like those who blast California pro Democratic reapportionment and ignore what the Republicans have done nationally to lock in the House majority. Jeez guys, it’s POLITICS !!! Don’t you get it? I feel like I’m talking to a bunch of innocent children sometimes. Grow up.

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  49. fish Avatar
    fish

    That passage was directed at Ben I assume Paul?

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