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George Rebane

The 14nov13 Union announced that Supervisor Hank Weston will seek a 3rd term for the county’s fourth district.  Among the reasons for his re-election Mr Weston cited his “budgetary experience” that will now be necessary to manage the county’s response to its unfunded liabilities that are coming home to roost.  In particular CalPERS has informed Nevada County that it needs to pay $1.3M per year for the next five years to satisfy minimum contribution requirements for its retirement account maintained for country employees.

Seven years ago SESF analyzed the county’s unfunded liabilities which it found to total over $48M as of 2006.  These findings were published in ‘TR0712-1: Unfunded Liabilities – Our Community’s Fiscal Time Bombs’, and presented to the Board of Supervisors by Michael McDaniel, the report’s lead author.  As I recall, the supervisors politely thanked us for our labors, and promptly dismissed the matter from further consideration.  At the time the county had almost $20M in reserve, and all was well.

This was in the heady days of 2007 when CalPERS was reaping double digit appreciations on its portfolio, the real estate market was on its way to the moon, and everyone was drinking the kool-aid.  Our warnings of the unsustainable performance of such investments were lost in those days of wine and roses.  I think we were judged to be out of our depth; after all county finances, especially public employee pension funding, are a complex matter not accessible to everyone.

The point of this missive is that the liabilities are now starting to come due, with the operational word being ‘starting’.  The $6M+ demanded by CalPERS is just the beginning of what the county must start making up if it is not to default on its pension commitments.  CalPERS has demonstrated itself to have a deficit in both accounting and investments when it comes to astute portfolio management.  Way back when, it was content in calculating its future fiscal health by predicting 7.5% annual returns.  The market has delivered these since the depth of the Great Recession, yet now CalPERS is going to the counties and displaying its newly discovered sore finger.

The point here is that Nevada County’s plans should include contingency responses to when CalPERS discovers more shortfalls in its ability to make ever increasing pension payments to the state’s growing cohort of public employee retirees (many from jurisdictions in or teetering on the edge of bankruptcy).  I fear that the bills to our county will quickly amount to tens of millions as the markets react to the inevitable ‘tapering’ of the Fed’s $85B/month quantitative easing.  Yellen is inheriting Bernanke’s folly, and she will own it if she does not start slowing down the gratuitous printing of dollars that is now going on at a trillion dollar annual rate.  This reputed monetary dove will be the one to take away the punchbowl, you can bet on it.  And then she will be known as the Fed’s Black Swan.

I wish Hank Weston godspeed in his re-election, and then in his confrontation with the All-devouring Beast.

[16nov13 update]  Then there are those who believe that Yellen will launch her chairmanship by really turning on the money nozzles.  This will doubly guarantee that there will be no soft landing for the economy, but it sure would blow the lid off the stock markets for a bit.

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But it’s really our own RL ‘Bob’ Crabb who in the 16nov13 Union nails the essence of how the present, shown above, pilfers from the future.

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135 responses to “Supervisor Weston to Manage County’s Unfunded Liabilities (updated 16nov13)”

  1. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Ben: That is the rub. From your post, one can infer tghat you believe conservatives are uncaring. Not true at all; in fact I would posit to you that conservatives are more caring. Conservatives want to help everyone, but we define help differently. It appears (correct me if I am wrong) that your definition of help means a handout. Conservatives definition of help is increased freedom to succeed or fail on your own accord. Conservatives want to help people by giving their money to organizations they support not through taxation to the organizations the govt supports. I want everyone to have unlimited opportunity. Poor is a temporary; loss of freedom is forever.

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  2. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Barry,
    I wouldn’t categorize my issues with those on RR as conservative issues but rather more authoritarian issues.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Sorry George, I now invite the fellow over to my blog. Wanna guess if he does?

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  4. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    The recently announced $298m settlement with CALPERS and CALSTRS by JP Morgan puts yet another slant on “unfunded pension liabilities”. How well would pension funds be doing if they weren’t always being ripped off (along with other stockholders) by Wall Street? If JP settled for that amount in California alone, how much did they really steal?

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  5. George Rebane Avatar

    BarryP 629am – I want to point out that BenE’s 1121pm again represents the pinnacle of progressive debate – they assign your ideas a label and end it there. When a conservative identifies a policy or person as socialist, he cites the evidence of collectivism that motivated the assigned label. Quite a difference.
    JoeK 840am – selling those mortgage backed securities was a deal between investment professionals, or was it? Apparently one side had no idea what it was buying, and on RR that’s been the point about CalPERS all along.

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  6. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    George– 8:59 — Calpers professionals or not there obviously was fraud involved or Morgan would have never settled. I don’t think caveat emptor applies in the case of fraud. How can you try and lay the blame on CALPERS (other than a feeble attempt to discredit pension plans)? That is like blaming a store owner for getting robbed.

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  7. fish Avatar
    fish

    I wouldn’t categorize my issues with those on RR as conservative issues but rather more authoritarian issues.
    Everybody in…nobody out! Command and control eh Ben!?

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    JoeK 1027am – In your habitual rush to blame the private sector while vindicating incompetent government, you appear to be profoundly ignorant of what the JP Morgan judgment entailed. Perhaps this might help.
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303985504579208253578086052?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
    We can then revisit the role of our central bank, the Fed, and then move on to the diktats of Congress that excoriated banks who “discriminated” by wanting to restrict loans only to people who could repay them. But I fear that you will again find such a journey of reasoning from the record too arduous.

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  9. TheMikeyMcD Avatar

    Rebane, you’re just trying to shackle people in FREEDOM!
    Ben, re: “authoritarian” litmus test
    Do you believe the government should FORCE American’s to participate in Social Security?
    Do you believe the government should FORCE American’s to participate in Medicare?
    Do you believe the government should FORCE American’s to participate in Obamacare?
    Do you believe the government should FORCE American’s to participate in an unequal income tax system?
    Do you at least see the hypocrisy in claiming to value equality/liberty while supporting a progressive income tax?

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  10. fish Avatar
    fish

    Do you believe the government should FORCE American’s to participate in Medicare?
    McD,
    I can’t speak to the other items but I recall very distinctly Bens goal of herding everybody into Medicare when Obamacare was being discussed. He was quite enthusiastic about it.

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  11. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Mickey,
    Force on the terms you have stated has a positive service received at the end of it therefore would be considered within the general welfare clause of US Constitution. Force on what I am talking about has nothing but intimidation, jail, torture, or death at the end of it.
    Here is the thing with this lily white blog, everything you mentioned with “force” is a financial/ economic issue. Since as a lily white male from the US you don’t have the intimidation of stop and frisk, the profiling of the police on a daily level, bombs being dropped on your head, military occupation of your region because of natural resources, and a Constitution that says for the purpose of white male voters a enslaved human being will be only considered 3/5 human being. This list can go on and on but you or those who share your skin color and gender have never had to worry about it, this is part of white privilege, so it doesn’t even register on your list of “force”.
    Just in case you haven’t read the Constitution the noble compromise of ignoring women and indigenous peoples but allowing slaves to be counted as partial human beings is found in Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3.

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  12. fish Avatar
    fish

    None of which answer McD’s questions Ben. You need therapy Ben…maybe a weekend with Oprah.
    It’s also why you’ll never be in congress…..which is good….sustainable farming is a far nobler pursuit than failing at saving the world from D.C.

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  13. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish,
    I answered all of Mickey’s question just not the way you wanted me to. The difference between what I am talking about and what Mickey is talking about is a choice. I can choose not to pay into FICA but even though I am self employed I choose to pay the entire tax out of my income. I can choose not to pay taxes or anything on his list. There might be a consequence to a refusal to do so but that was my choice. Did slaves have a choice? Did the Iraqi’s have a choice of US Ocupation? Does the people of Afghanistan have a choice of a US Occupation? Did women have a choice of being left out of the US Constitution?
    Does this 17 year old have a choice whether or not the police are going to harass him? http://www.thenation.com/article/170413/stopped-and-frisked-being-fking-mutt-video
    The real question being put forward by Mickey is a very simplistic naive question are we individuals or a united/ community. We have gone in circles on this issue and there is no need to rehash it all again. Mickey has not achieved a single thing in his life on his own and will not until the day he dies, none of us have or will.

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  14. TheMikeyMcD Avatar

    Thanks for proving my point Ben. It is your ideology that, hypocritically, requires Government FORCE (“authoritarian”).
    Playing the ‘race card’ is racist and bigoted… Ben, you are better than that.
    I have never owned a slave, dropped a bomb, or occupied another nation. I do live under fear of stop and frisk daily and we are all ‘profiled’ by authorities, daily.
    Your leap from my love of personal liberty to my skin color to bombs dropping lack any semblance of reason/logic.
    I have been anti-war since before it was cool. I fight the authoritative institutions that shackle us (namely Federal Reserve, EPA, Dept of Education).
    I know that freedom is the best soil for a healthy quality of life. Central planning is poison.

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  15. TheMikeyMcD Avatar

    That’s exactly how I would expect a politician to answer simple yes/no questions.
    Any guesses on what Ben is farming? LOL

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  16. fish Avatar
    fish

    We have gone in circles on this issue and there is no need to rehash it all again.
    …and yet here we are again.
    I know down in your bones you need to feel guilty about this…..knock yourself out…some people choose to dress up in womens clothing, you’ve selected carrying racial strife as your penance….who am I to criticize your “faith”.
    Mickey has not achieved a single thing in his life on his own and will not until the day he dies, none of us have or will.
    I don’t understand your statement…..is this an admission that Ben would really prefer the forced “community” inherent in all attempts at collectivism…or have I missed something?

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  17. fish Avatar
    fish

    …and Ben? With your racial guilt bona fides how come you’re not out working the Tim Wise circuit? He makes a very nice living rubbing the noses of those prone to your particular fetish in the past deeds of those who looked like them. Beats spreading manure…..literally I mean…with a manure spreader….not rhetorically!

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  18. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    I mistakenly posted the comments of Ben Emery at 11:21 pm last night at Mr. Pelline’s blog this morning at 8:30 am and attributed them to Mr. Juvinall.
    Todd brought that to my attention over at Mr. Pelline’s.
    I most humbly apologize to Todd for my mistake and to readers for any confusion it may have caused. Todd is 100% correct, they were Ben’s words and not his. Mea culpa. Todd was right and I was wrong.
    [Ben, your comments were spot on!]

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  19. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Funny how the comments were suspect when you attributed them to me and now they are spot on with BenE. Too funny.

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  20. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Posted by: Todd Juvinall | 20 November 2013 at 08:20 PM
    I will say it again….I was wrong and I am sorry.
    The reason they were suspect from you and spot on from Ben is because they were so out of character. That should have given me pause.

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  21. Barry Pruett Avatar
    Barry Pruett

    Yes Steve. I saw that and was laughing about it. I would have said soemthing on Pelline’s blog, but I refuse to be moderated and subjected to his blind rage over me. In any event, it should have given you pause! I am surprised that thinking it was Todd did not cause you did not have a stroke…so for that…I am quite glad that you survived! Sorry Todd. LOL.

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  22. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Sorry for ? I thought it was funny. I appreciate the quick fix.

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  23. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish,
    This might shock you but many times over my life I have turned down very lucrative positions. Life is about living it not making money. I chosen to work outside or work where it allows me to spend my days outside my entire life. I have never and most likely will never have an office job. I ran for congress to try and bring a different point of view to the campaign for CA US District 4, which I did. Unfortunately the Democrats ran a carpetbagger just like McClintock, which allowed McClintock to basically sit on the sidelines the entire campaign. McClintock was the only reason to cover and when he didn’t show up to 4 public forums it quickly became Democratic carptetbagger against myself. McClintock never lived in our district and the Democratic carpetbagger moved back to Florida within two months of the election.
    Here is Utah Phillips explaining ‘Making a Living, Not a Killing’.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ol9c_utah-phillips-on-making-a-living-no_news

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    Whatever Ben…when Obamacare kicks in see if you qualify for “irony impairment” transplant surgery!

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BenE, list those lucrative positions for us would you please. I am amazed you would give those possibilities up for raising tomatoes.

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  26. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Fish and Todd,
    I figured you guys couldn’t understand the concept as old as the hills.
    Maybe Timothy 6:10 can explain it in your terms.
    “But the root of all these evils is the love of money, and there are some who have desired it and have erred from the faith and have brought themselves many miseries.”
    The miseries they cause are here on earth but more importantly destination of their souls.
    A person doesn’t need to go any further than the teachings of Matthew to understand the teachings of Jesus. If we live these teachings, which were not new when Jesus spoke them then we are walking a righteous path. If we try to achieve the Kingdom by piece meal action when it is convenient to do so then the Kingdom is much harder to attain. The reason I use the language of Jesus because it has been implied on many occasions the preferred religion on RR is Christianity.
    Matthew quotes
    “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
    “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
    34
    Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
    35
    For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
    36
    naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’ 37
    hen the righteous* will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
    38
    When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
    39
    When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
    40
    i And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
    41 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

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  27. Gregory Avatar

    Ben, your relative poverty isn’t anyone else’s doing. Outside labor has its rewards but those jobs pay little because the value created is small.
    McClintock didn’t debate you or Clint Curtis (D-Mars by way of Florida) because there wasn’t a chance in hell either of you would win. The only reason you got a two-digit share of the votes is that most Dems could smell the certifiable insanity (he was a conspiracy theorist with implausible rants) on the Dem ticket, and there wasn’t a LIB running for the office.

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  28. fish Avatar
    fish

    Ben,
    You are such a catastrophically obtuse nitwit I’ve simply lost the will to engage you further……It’s like shooting dairy cattle with deer rifles or showing the family dog card tricks…..there is no sport in it and it annoys all involved. If this was your intent…then well played sir….if not ….don’t leave the house unless in the presence of adult supervision.
    I wish you well in your future endeavors.

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  29. George Boardman Avatar

    Since Weston and Ed Scofield collect CalPERS pensions, is it a conflict of interest for them to get involved in the county’s management of its pension obligations?
    You can bet they won’t vote to reduce any existing pensions!

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    GeorgeB 320pm – That’s an excellent point that should have both legal and ethical ramifications. I wonder how many other electeds across the state are in similar positions. We need one our barrister readers to weigh in on this.

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  31. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Brother Ben, we agree!! “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
    Yep, we all can say to those on our left, “Depart from me, you accursed………….”

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  32. TheMikeyMcD Avatar

    Ben, awesome citations. I love theology. Let’s go there more often. Of course Jesus was speaking of money as an obstacle to one’s personal faith in God, not the benefits of philanthropy. It is tough to be philanthropic when the government takes half of what is earned.
    I find liberals far more focused on money than capitalists. Where liberals are driven by envy all of the capitalists I know are not chasing money as much as they are striving to produce value for their fellow man. We capitalists have a sense of purpose in providing something of value that our fellow man would CHOOSE to purchase. I sincerely know that money does not make me happy and I have made crazy decisions (similar to Utah Phillips) on the matter.
    Ironic that taxation (especially unequal progressive tax system) fits the definition of “Stealing” which I am pretty sure the Bible still frowns upon (see 10 Commandments). Imagine how much more good would be done today if folks were permitted to keep more than 50% of what they earned.

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  33. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    OK Mickey,
    Taxes without representation is stealing, taxes levied by a unrepresentative form of government to pay for their policies is stealing. Despite the poor representation we have in our government we do have representation. Your lack of understanding of why our nation came to be amazing. The colonies taxed themselves and had house of burgesses or something equivalent to tax themselves for their needs. It is called self determination.

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  34. TheMikeyMcD Avatar

    Never thought I would see the day when Benn Emerry (purposefully misspelled) claimed that we had representation in Washington (and Sac CA)! Flip-Flop.
    Pardon me for expressing my disdain (read nonrepresentation) for our military’s sins, Federal Reserve cartel’s sins, piss-poor education system’s sins, enslavement through SS/Medicare, etc etc.
    Furthermore, let me point out the hypocrisy of claiming to be pro-equality while promoting an unequal tax regime (progressive income tax).
    steal
    stēl/Submit
    verb
    present participle: stealing
    1.take (another person’s property) without permission and without intending to return it.

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  35. fish Avatar
    fish

    Taxes without representation is stealing, taxes levied by a unrepresentative form of government to pay for their policies is stealing. Despite the poor representation we have in our government we do have representation. Your lack of understanding of why our nation came to be amazing. The colonies taxed themselves and had house of burgesses or something equivalent to tax themselves for their needs. It is called self determination.
    Oh my….I just found the will to go on! Thanks Ben.
    Forgive me I have been laboring under the assumption that you thought that government as it is practiced today places our collective futures in the hands of an oligarchy made up up of interlocking corporations….even right now nefariously plotting to decimate the democratic structure of the United States? NAFTA/GATT, the TPP, the Federal Reserve…..etc.
    So which is it Ben? Are we a poor but still representative democratic state or is it now the mere pretense of self determination masked by corporate control?
    On which side of Occams Razor are we camping today?

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