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George Rebane

This piece of legislation is turning out to be horrible beyond prediction and measure, and we are nowhere near discovering or experiencing the full extent of the damage that it will do to our republic.  I just want this dated post to become a matter of record on RR, one that joins its precursor forebodings that have populated these pages for some years now.  Every assessment and prediction here has been short of the mark.  The cynically named Affordable Care Act is much worse than anyone who understands a smidgeon of things Austrian, to things bureaucratic, to things about systems design could have imagined.  In short, Obamacare is a disaster already made and still in the making – the ‘best’ is yet to come.

But what the saga to date has corroborated is the absolute depths of hubris, pandering, opacity, and corruption that this administration, along with its congressional minions, has perpetrated.  Every beneficent claim for that abhorrent attack on our healthcare system and economy has been shown to be a purposive lie.  For this, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius should be impeached and then criminally prosecuted.  Assuming that she is not stupid beyond belief, she did indeed know her errors and omissions over the last three years, and she most certainly knew the lies she streamed out during this interval.  And if she told the truth to the President, then he is at least equally guilty.

The tragi-comedy for our nation is how many of the ignorant and informationally deprived this administration has still been able to bamboozle.  The only real benefit to its perpetrators that all this has brought about is the disarray into which the affair has thrown the Republicans.  But they are recovering, and given the stream of horrors that Obamacare is generating by the day, the GOP might even come out of this smelling like a rose as the putrid mess begins to sink under its own weight.  Its prescient opponents need only remind people that not only did they tell us so, but they also proposed alternative approaches to improve our healthcare system that were rejected in toto by an all progressive government.  As someone said, ‘Elections have consequences.’

[24oct13 update] The abbreviated criticism above is meant to draw attention to the congressional hearings corroborating the nation’s concerns about the dire straits of Obamacare, and to invite some typical responses from the Left claiming that things are running normally and pretty much as expected (by technically knowledgeable people) in the fielding of the ACA.  Mr Michael Anderson, who runs a computer services business in Nevada County, was able to supply such an assessment in his 928pm comment below.  My response to that is in the sequel.

[26oct13 update] Has everyone googled the growing litany of ‘admissions’ by the terminally incompetent Sebelius.  The one that really drew some belly laughs was AP’s quote that she “admitted” to the President that she has to now fix the website – ‘admitted’!!??  I have changed my mind and agree fully with those calling for her to stay until  she again pronounces healthcare.gov ready for prime time.  I do believe that the President deserves the full measure of her services.  We already paid for that entertainment once, so let’s now enjoy it.  (The following was sent to me by a reader who admitted pilfereing it from ZeroHedge.)

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109 responses to “Obamacare – legis horriblis (updated 26oct13)”

  1. Gregory Avatar

    Reported by Kudlow earlier today… the prime contractor for the Obamacare website is claiming some of the problems are due to the White House insisting on a major change with less than a month before going live… requiring someone to fill out a complete application before they are allowed to see prices. The original design would have allowed browsing of the plans.
    Sounds like the WH knew there would be sticker shock.

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar

    As a software development contractor for the government we often bid the contracts at the break even point, or even a little lower to assure a win, because we knew the government only had a vague idea of what they really wanted and that there would be multiple engineering change proposals, which would be added to the contract as the procuring agencies changed their minds and ask for some not in the original contract. As the profit margins grew beyond acceptable levels for the government auditors, we would offer the government an unexpected benefit to keep from being accused of exploitation.
    It was not unusual to have change orders coming in right up to the delivery date. It appears that the software development for ObamaCare followed the typical pattern of government procurement, not knowing what they really wanted they kept changing system right up to delivery date. In government software procurement the two performance measurements are on time deliver and on cost. The costs was blown by the engineering change proposals, to they stuck to the delivery date as the last remaining performance parameter.
    It appears that ObamaCare followed the typical government software procurement cycle. On time deliver was paramount, no one gave a sh*t if it worked or not, it had to be delivered on time. When the budget started to over run the first thing they cut was testing. Besides, it was impossible to test software that was changing right up to the delivery date.
    The real question is, did the ObamaCare team get what they were asking for, a system that was destined to fail? The issue is, was the failure generated by the procurement process or was it by design. One has to wonder, why hire a software development company with a huge failure record if you wanted the resulting system to perform flawlessly right out of the box? Were the stream of engineering change proposals and the forced schedule all part of scheme to force a failure? My guess is that the replacement system will have a hidden switch, which will turn it in to a single payer management system with a simple flip of switch. Obama will have the systems that he really wanted in the first place.

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  3. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Wow, more fever dreams from George and Greg.
    Greg, thanks for troubleshooting the website problems for us. What’s really amazing is that all of the websites that I have ever been even remotely responsible for have gone perfectly every single time, so yes, this is a real shocker that Ms. Sebelius screwed the pooch so badly.
    Oh, wait a minute…I have that backwards. ALL OF THE WEBSITES OF WEIGHT I HAVE EVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH HAVE HAD ROLLOUT PROBLEMS. Every single one.
    What really amuses me to no end is that these idiot Republican website critics have their aids print out their emails so they can read them, since they have no idea how to use technology. And yet they still express gross umbrage that the technology is not perfect during the first few weeks. These people are complete assholes, and they are not worthy of our thoughts.
    George wrote: “For this, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius should be impeached and then criminally prosecuted.”
    What an incredibly ridiculous statement. Here’s the irony, George. For the states that chose not to implement their own exchanges, they are the ones suffering under the federal glitches. And now they are complaining. Fuck those states. Fuck them up the ass, and then leave them rode hard and put up wet. You pay a political price for being a fucking asshole. Eat your putrid self-satisfying stew, smug red states, and stop your boring and tawdry mewling. These people are damn lucky we are not collapsing their itty bitty economies with suffocating economic sanctions. Who’s the Ayatollah in Alabama we can contact to let them know we are no longer going to ship them lettuce, orange juice, and machine parts until they pull their heads out of their ass?
    George wrote: “…the GOP might even come out of this smelling like a rose as the putrid mess begins to sink under its own weight.” Another fever dream with no foundation whatsoever. I was in the Bay Area last weekend and there is so much money floating around there that it doesn’t know where to go. But this time it even seems sustainable, unlike the blips in 2000 and 2006; when was the last time you met with anyone from Sand Hill Road, George? You seem to be incredibly out of touch with the real world.
    George wrote: “As someone said, ‘Elections have consequences.’” Yes they do. And the next ones are going to spank the Republicans even harder unless they get their house in order. I could care less, I am a registered Republican and not a Democrat, I love that the extreme right wingers in this country are getting heavily spanked, and have a nice day.
    M.

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  4. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Sorry Russ, for not including you in my fever dreams comment. Really? This all about going to single payer? One can only hope. But I am sure it is nothing more than Occam’s Razor, just a crappy job done under adverse conditions. Move along, nothing to see here.

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  5. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    OK, you all should know a dirty little secret I have kept from ya’ll: I ain’t no fan of Obama nor Obamacare. There, I finally said it. Whew, I feel better.
    Rather than post any of the hundreds of links out there, I will just make 2 points.
    First, forget about the web site and its launching problems. Millions of folks are finding out their premiums are going up, their co-pays are going up, and their deductibles are going up. All this to insure 15 million of the 30 million uninsured. I have spoken to 3 fine ladies who are uninsured. They all said the same thing. “Go pound sand, Obama. I will pay the penalty.” Well, they didn’t actually say pound sand, but I don’t feel like repeating F-bombs tonight. Them women folk are getting all riled up I tell ya. Its going to get ugly when they get hysterical. Not pretty I can assure ya.
    Second, its Obama’s lack of leadership on this and almost every issue. No rallying the troops to get on board with Syria (thank goodness). Still, it was like he was a spectator to the Syrian issue, not getting Congress and the American people on board which he could have as all Presidnets do.
    Its like he in not engaged and is hunkered down in the White House “win at any cost mentality”, yet is absent from the process. I believe it bores him or he finds politics uninteresting. He did not even focus hard on the Stimulus nor creating jobs nor even knowing the details of Obamacare, his signature legislation.
    Sure, No Drama Obama has his own style, as each President does. But, where is he now? Is he rallying the folks and burning up the phone lines kickin’ butt and leading?
    Hiliary Clinton of all people put it best concerning her observations of the current Administration. “There is no hand on the till.” I can’t best that for clarity or bevieity. Even when Clinton was Prez, he was always on the phone calling lower level bureaucrats to see what was really going on and get a pulse for things. He was engaged and found it fun to mediate disputes and talk to rivals. But this dude in the White House now just seems to say pass the Stimulus, ok done. Pass healthcare reform, ok done. Pass green initiatives, ok done. Going to Libya, ok done. He will walk into a buzz saw on immigration reform IF he does not roll up his sleeves and get the American people and Congress behind him and lead AND spend every waking moment getting his hands dirty. Don’t seem to be his style.
    It is exactly because of this lack of leadership and engagement is the reason some are calling for the heads of Holder, Sebelius, Tiny Tim G. Obama is just too distant, too removed from the process and allows other to lead instead of him. So of course Obamacare will be a far bigger disaser than just a bad launch. It has no direction.

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  6. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Bill Tozer,
    I cannot disagree with much of what you have written. A good analysis. Obama is not much of a president, and he can’t seem to get out of his shell.
    That being said, PPACA has taken on a life of its own, and it is the signature legislation of his presidency. Even if he doesn’t care to protect it, his minions are heavily invested and they number in the the tens of thousands.
    That is why it is futile to fight against it. The only hope is for bipartisan reforms.
    Michael A.

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  7. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Michael A at 9:28: say, fella – you sound a bit vexed. You wanted Obama care and it was implemented. Now, you’re frothing at the mouth. It’s not just the states that opted out. It’s the whole deal. Google CGI and the HHS. HHS had claimed that it was a competitive bid and there were 4 other companies. Just another frikkin’ lie on top of all the other lies. The D’s are already starting to cave and will pass what the ‘radical’ Tea Party was trying to do before O’Blabber selectively shut down parts of the fed gov.
    Sorry George – the R’s don’t look good on this, since they caved and decided to wimp out. Only the ones that fight no matter what for the correct course get credit. This nation has gone off the financial cliff. It might be that it’s too late, but that’s no excuse to compromise and negotiate about our velocity to the bottom of the cliff.

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  8. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Anderson, thank you kindly for the generous words. Yes, the Affordable Health Care Act is here and it is law. That is where I am coming from. Much to your dismay, I believe Obamacare will be dismantled and that would be the best reform. I also agree with Mr. Steele’s fears that Obamacare is just a step to single payer by design. Once the ACA crashes and burns, Single Payer will be the only option, if not in the next election cycle or two, then somewhere down the line. Good ole’ Harry Palms Reid said so, and he said so to PBS. Its not like we are eavesdropping on him. Obamacare is just a rest stop on the road to Single Payer.
    I agree with Dr. Rebane that we are pass the tipping point concerning acceptance of socialist mindsets, ideals, and now familiarity. Over half the population likes it that way.
    With all that said, why is the Obamacare website a colossal failure? Lets play Ross Peret and open the hood and see what is wrong with the engine, shall we?
    1) The Canadian contractor used (CGI??) has had previous problems in Canada for not delivering the goods to the Canadian Government. The reason they were chosen/not vetted had to be a political decision. Bad ju-ju.
    2) CGI (?) farmed the work out to Indian technicians. Them folks from India are brilliant, but they hired low level programmers not the cream of the crop. It was these low level programers that did the lion’s share of the work. Heck, a dozen top of the top notch designers and techie boys and girls could have a better job in a small office left alone for 6 months.
    The programs themselves have spelling errors. Fruit of the poison tree.
    A novel idea was used. When someone tries to enroll in Obamacare, massive government files are downloaded on the USER’S computer. This idea was supposed to save the Government’s computers for storing huge files and file sharing space. Unfortunately, when the user computers were talking to the Government computers (i.e., massive files talking to massive files)the system was not built to handle the load. Thus the glitches, freezing and crashes.
    The web site has to be torn down, not patched. Scrapped. Treat it as used ass wipe. Adios amigo, long time no come see.
    Those I know who have had a relatively easier time finding out their options are for health insurance have done so by phone. Now, that’s a good old fashioned way to doing things. Faster than snail mail and much faster than staring at the blue wall of death on a computer scene.
    Wonder what codes those files on the user’s computers contain. Might be wise to close your laptop or turn your computer towards the wall when you and the little lady are making hay.

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  9. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Opps, how silly of me. I forgot to mention the training the contractor used for programmers was a 2 hour course. In by 8:00am, out by 10:00am. What possibility could go wrong with dat? Well, at least some state run exchanges let you see your options before giving them you SS number and all personal info, lol.

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  10. Gregory Avatar

    The first bipartisan reform for Obamacare may well include delaying the personal mandate, led by a bunch of Democratic senators who are up for reelection in Nov ’14.
    If that happens, it will probably transfer blame for the “shutdown” of 17% of the Federal Government (like the panda cam and other major expenditures) to Obama and Reid.
    The delicious part of the A team coming to the rescue of Obamacare dot com is this maxim from that grand piece of Computer Science knowledge, The Mythical Man-month: “Adding people to a late software project makes it later”. This has been proven so many times over the last half century it’s funny to see the same fire drill taking over once again… but what else is an angry President to do?
    Need a baby in one month? Get nine women to working on it right away!

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  11. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    They spent $394,000,000 on the website, according to the GAO. The website does not work, which according to one commenter here is because of 36 States who should or do have anal sex decided not to participate in Oh care. Oh please ….
    The main question should be will Eric The Holder sue to get our money back?

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    Regarding MichaelA’s 928pm – As stated in the post’s update, Michael supplied the sought for liberal apology for Obamacare’s shortcomings through a most enthusiastic and revealing rant.
    We note he gave no material reply to these shortcomings and Obamacare’s disastrous launch. But he did attempt to educate the reader as to the realities of website development and then went off the rails with his logic connecting the fortunes of the Republican party with his presumption of my knowledge of the current status of Sand Hill venture capitalists.
    Sad to say, I have watched MichaelA joust with RR readers ranging from the technically knowledgeable to astute on these pages, and have always come away somewhat puzzled as to the depth of his own knowledge. In his 928pm comment he has greatly resolved my questions about that.
    During my career (see RR bio) I have been privileged to be at the center of designing, developing, and testing several large scale systems whose operation involved multiple realtime inputs from multiple users, sensors, and other platforms. The systems have all been life critical in that they were required to access and process massive amounts of data quickly and correctly. Elsewhere in these pages I have outlined the life cycle of such systems.
    In my commercial career I have been equally involved in the design, development, and maintenance of online systems including several websites of functional complexity that exceed that required for interfacing with Obamacare applicants. My last go-around in this arena was with BizRate.com which then was the world’s largest ecommerce concentrator that fielded hundreds of thousands of complex user sessions daily while accessing massive data bases fed by thousands of retailers – one of them containing virtually all the retail SKUs in America. The tracking and analysis of user session behaviors that I and my team developed gave rise to the field now known as web analytics. I was invited speaker at numerous universities and conferences talking and teaching the care and feeding of large scale websites. There is more, but this should suffice for now. (BTW, the sale of BizRate.com for more than an half billion dollars was announced on the front page of the WSJ.)
    Even though nominally retired, I am today closely involved with a new venture funded dotcom start-up that again fields an interactive website that is tied to multiple, some massive, databases. The rapidly growing company is now in its second year and creating more jobs in the local area. We talk with VCs, including Sand Hill, on a regular basis. (When did MichaelA last talk to Sand Hill?)
    By this short summary I mean to give basis to my conclusion that whatever fields MichaelA claims expertise in, they do not include any of the technical or managerial areas involving systems and the internet in which I claim expertise.

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  13. Walt Avatar

    It great having a computer wizard in the family.
    The “safe and secure” gov. website has more spy programs imbedded
    in it than the NSA has in China. Here are just some my “kid” came up with.
    *.optimizely.com
    *.pingdom.net
    ssl.google-analytics.com
    *.g.doubleclick.net
    *.google.com
    *.a.ssl.fastly.net
    *.chartbeat.net
    Those connections just to get front page loaded
    “Apply online” button
    *.facebook.com
    p.twitter.com
    a248.e.akamai.net
    to get to the “select your state” dropdown box and “apply online” button
    The page text indicates “security” There is none with that long list of snooping websites hiding in the background.
    Then what do I hear during the grilling of the “programmers”?
    “Cheryl Campbell, senior vice president of CGI Federal Inc., the company that built the Obamacare health-insurance exchange website, on language hidden in source code that says applicants have “no reasonable expectation of privacy.”
    “This is the part of the signup that is hidden,” said Barton. “The applicant does not see this, but it is in the source code, and what that blue highlighted area that’s been circled in red says is: ‘You have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding any communication or data transmitting or stored on this information system.”

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  14. Ryan Mount Avatar

    more spy programs imbedded
    The site you list above are mostly Google properties that provide analytics. It’d perfectly appropriate to insinuate those into a website not only to track trends, but also to help proactively deal with issues such as load and scaling.
    I would invite those to consider that these are not spy programs, but standard web best practices. if one is worried about such things, simply re-route these sites to null/localhost on your computers. Or buy one of the myriad of apps that will do this for you. You may not like the results, BTW.
    Not to mention Google’s reporting infrastructure can easily handle this site, so in that regard, the government did well. Elsewhere, it’s a mess. If they would have done proper load testing, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation because it wouldn’t be live.

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  15. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Watched some CSPAN hearing on the IT people this morning. No one knows anything. 500 million or more, poof!

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  16. Russ Steele Avatar

    John McAfee, founder of anti-virus company McAfee, Inc, on the ObamaCare exchanges:
    On Fox Business Network’s “Cavuto” on Wednesday, October 2nd, computer programmer and founder of McAfee, Inc. John McAfee said the online component of Obamacare “is a hacker’s wet dream” that will cause “the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities.”
    For starters, McAfee said the way it is set up makes it possible for fake websites be set up to fool people to think they’re signing up for Obamacare.
    “It’s seriously bad,” McAfee said. “Somebody made a grave error, not in designing the program but in simply implementing the web aspect of it. I mean, for example, anybody can put up a web page and claim to be a broker for this system. There is no central place where I can go and say, ‘OK, here are all the legitimate brokers, the examiners for all of the states and pick and choose one.’”
    “Instead, any hacker can put a website up, make it look extremely competitive, and because of the nature of the system — and this is health care, after all — they can ask you the most intimate questions, and you’re freely going to answer them,” he continued. “What’s my Social Security number? My birth date? What are my health issues?”
    According to McAfee, there’s not a quick fix — and as long as it set up this way, it could be a playground for computer hackers.
    “Here’s the problem: It’s not something software can solve,” McAfee continued. “I mean, what idiot put this system out there and did not create a central depository? There should be one website, run by the government, you go to that website and then you can click on all of the agencies. This is insane. So, I will predict that the loss of income for the millions of Americans who are going to lose their identities — I mean, you can imagine some retired lady in Utah, who has $75,000 dollars in the bank, saving her whole life, having it wiped out in one day because she signed up for Obamacare. And believe me, this is going to happen millions of times. This is a hacker’s wet dream. I mean I cannot believe that they did this.”

    Obamacare’s Federal Exchange code was all open source and could be copied for examination and use on your own machine at GitHub. [Link had been taken down] But the question is how many hackers down loaded all the site code before it was taken down. With the code inhand the hacker can find the security holes in the code, which according to McAfee numerious.

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  17. Ryan Mount Avatar

    “No amount of testing within reasonable time limits can adequately replicate a live environment of this nature,” Cheryl Campbell, senior vice president of CGI.
    While there’s some truth to that Ms. Campbell, that is no excuse. If this was the case, why did you and other pull the old Poke Yoke? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poke_yoke)
    Also, we have these modern inventions called Math and Models that can aid in our performance analysis. We do it all the time here at IBM on projects that are as arguably as big as this one.
    Reminds me of Bum Phillips:
    “You fail all the time, but you aren’t a failure until you start blaming someone else.”

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    RussS 1237pm – what ranges from galling to comic are all the leftwing experts (national and local) who know so little about what has happened with the Obamacare website that they attribute all this to be a normal pathway to a fully functional fielded system. It is clear that none of them have come close to doing anything like this or even understanding how it is done. This morning’s House testimony by a group of subcontractors was hilarious, especially when you add on Henry Waxman’s coda. It was extremely clear that there was absolutely no adult supervision when it came to system integration and acceptance.
    As announced here immediately after the attempt to activate the site on 1oct13, there were no “glitches” involved, only a massive engineering and administrative screw-up that was and continues to be wrapped up in layers of lies and, most likely, deeper corruption. It was so badly done that some now are making a case that no one could do that on purpose in the second decade of this millenium; that this had to be an intentional fuck-up to prepare for the main event – single payer socialist healthcare.

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  19. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Just heard Jay Carney claim the reason the govt didn’t do any testing of the website was because they were sooooo worried about women with cancer and wanted to get it going as soon as possible. So, Jay – how’s that working out? He also implied that only evil partisan naysayers would dare to ask questions about why we have a multi-hundred billion dollar (and counting) website that doesn’t function.
    Let’s all keep in mind that the malfunctioning website is only the start of the issues that keep arising in this mess. Single payer, here we come.

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  20. Ryan Mount Avatar

    Typo from earlier:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poka_yoke
    (note the ‘a’)
    It’s a good read on how to avoid defects which is perfectly applicable to the software development and deployment cycles.

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  21. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    The blame game is revving its engines. Love the smell of burning nitro as the dragsters fly down track to get out of Dodge. Dodge? Oh my, I will say pun intended even when unintended. Many are responsible, nobody is accountable.
    I was too premature and foolish to blame CGI and its affiliates. I am sooo dumb I thought there was one contractor in charge of many subcontractors. I have been enlightened about my errant ways. There are 4 contractors, just CGI makes the headlines. 4. Not subs, 4 contractors. If one lead contractor can make a mess of things, what can four do?
    I personally blame the Republicans for this. The White House was so paranoid that them evil Republicans terorists would sabatoge the site or worse (like asking questions) that the Administration no way could be transparent and kept the stiff upper lip moustache rides. Nothing to see here, all is well. Don’t be a naysayer. Don’t worry, be happy. They don’t give out the Nobel Peace Prize for nuthin’. Tone down the rhetroic and go along to get along…
    I think the Healthcare.com.gov.org.net site is doing pretty darn good. Definitely close enough for government work. Remeber boys and girls, you have to enroll by Dec 15th or the IRS will be a’coming for its “shared responsibility payments.” Exciting times bro. Think I will turn up some old John Anderson and sit on the porch singing loudly “Just a’swinging.” Life is good.

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  22. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Russ wrote: “John McAfee, founder of anti-virus company McAfee, Inc, on the ObamaCare exchanges…”
    Seriously? McAfee? Worst anti-malware software on the planet…well, maybe not as bad as Norton. Symantec and McAfee partner their extremely inferior products with places like Best Buy and Staples, that’s the only thing that keeps them alive. Oh, and some CIOs in major corps who have been rogering Symantec and McAfee for so long that they don’t even know they are married. Kind of a common law relationship, but still extremely dysfunctional.
    George wrote: “Michael supplied the sought for liberal apology for Obamacare’s shortcomings through a most enthusiastic and revealing rant.”
    George, you keep trying to paint me as a liberal, and I resent it greatly. It really gets under my skin. Why? Because your meter is so far off base, and people keep telling you so, and you continue to indulge your selfish ideological “badges of shame” that are reductionist, inaccurate, and constructed in such a non-logical way that they fall away at the briefest first glance.
    George, you did not address the fact that the states who did not want Obamacare are now complaining that they can’t get it through the federal website. I am pretty sure that producing a bad website is a High Crime and/or Misdemeanor, so I am hoping that the Tea Party monkeys in the House are beginning the impeachment process. Obama must be impeached, any way that’s possible. Yes?
    Really? Hearings in Congress about a bad website that people didn’t even want? Are you fucking kidding me? What a fucked up country I live in. Pathetic.
    George wrote: “There is more, but this should suffice for now.” Dude, if I had wanted to engage in a dick measuring exercise with you, I would have just said “hey George, can we meet at the Lady Bug restaurant next Wednesday, flop down our members on the tables for all to see, get out the tapes and be done with it?” Yeah, I didn’t do that, and I have no intention of using my CV to make you look silly and stupid. Suffice to say, I was born and raised in the Bay Area, grew up in Los Altos Hills, and watched Silicon Valley emerge first hand. I could have bought the first round of Oracle stock when I worked as a contractor for them in 1985 (still kicking myself for not doing that). But whatever George, lay that member down if that is what you think is necessary.
    George, you didn’t really address my main question, which was to suggest that economic sanctions against the people are trying to destroy this country might be the best way to go: “Who’s the Ayatollah in Alabama we can contact to let them know we are no longer going to ship them lettuce, orange juice, and machine parts until they pull their heads out of their ass?”
    Yeah, you didn’t answer that question. My entire point about bringing up the Silicon Valley was that here is a demographic that couldn’t be more antithetical to your ideological nonsense and they are making money like almost no other place on the planet. You failed to address this fundamental disconnect.
    From my perspective, you and yours are hindering the economic development of Nevada County, and I’ve pretty much had enough of it. Instead of spending so much time bashing the PPACA (or Obamacare if you insist, perhaps that derisive name makes your member grow), how about dealing with something that REALLY affects the county’s economy, like lack of adequate broadband.
    Michael A.

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  23. Russ Steele Avatar

    One of the mild surprises that came out of congressional hearing on the Obamacare web site, was learning that a division of HHS insisted on being the systems integrator and only did two weeks of integration testing. I ran a software development lab that build systems integration tools for the Air Force for several years, and before that I led the team that wrote the design concept and the specification for the Extendable Systems Integration Environment for the Air Force Logistics Command. We build the prototype in Sacramento and then used this integration tool set on multiple aircraft. It became a standard for maintaining the systems integrity of weapon systems, including the B-2 Bomber. Given the complexity of the Obamacare web site and the number of systems that had to work together flawlessly, I would have wanted at least six months of testing, with more time added for each major change to the system. I nearly dropped my coffee on the keyboard when I learned this morning that they only tested the full systems for two weeks before going live. I would like to know how much systems integration experience the government integration team had. My guess not much!

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  24. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    re: Michael -“George, you did not address the fact that the states who did not want Obamacare are now complaining that they can’t get it through the federal website.”
    ‘States’ don’t sign up on the website Michael, individuals do. But they can’t. We taxpayers are on the hook for this to the tune of close to a billion dollars now and it doesn’t work. They had 3 years and they blew it. It goes way deeper than the web site. It turns out that the whole thing is a con. There was a reason they didn’t want anybody to know what was in the bill before they passed it. The fact that Obama won’t sign up for it himself should be a huge clue for everyone. Obamacare will greatly increase the cost of insurance for anyone who is a producer. The takers who used the emergency rooms for primary health care will be sucking up even more of your money. And Michael thinks it’s all just peachy.

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  25. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Greg’s lack of self-control manifested itself in the following way:
    “By mandersonation’s 10:44PM, it’s clear the ‘Perhaps not’ was prescient.”
    Nice use of the word, “prescient.” You’re welcome.
    And then Greg followed with some further nonsense: “A second chance, Mike. Do you have nothing rational (look it up) to say regarding the 7 of 9 SCOTUS Equal Protection opinion in Bush v Gore, or did you just relish writing ‘steaming pile’ in relation to Scalia?”
    First of all, I do not acknowledge that I get some sort of “second chance” from Greg Goodknight. The GG does not have standing in this regard. Yeah, the word “rational.” Pretty complex, Greg. Are you sure that’s what you wanted to write? And yes, I did rather enjoy placing “steaming pile” and “Scalia” next to one another. I know, childish. What can I say?
    Getting back to the question at hand, which you did not answer, did all 7 justices invoke the 14th for the same reason? No, of course they didn’t. Two of the seven wanted a total recount across the state, with consistent rules (as well as 4 of the 9). But hey, Dred Scott-type decisions are what they are. They create great chaos and calamity, and they cost a lot of people both blood and treasure. And then history announces its judgement and the people who supported the heinous behavior go down in the record books with great shame and opprobrium.
    We are now in the accounting period of the exercise. In my book we had the worst president in the history of the Republic with GeeDub, and now we have a middle-of-the-roader in Obama who is doing a B+ to C- job, depending upon who you talk to, at least those who still have a functioning prefrontal cortex.
    In the RR echo chamber, none of this matters. Have a nice time, wondrous people. Enjoy the fall colors. Have a beer at the Ol’ Republic. Maybe I’ll see you there but probably not. Stuck on your avocado couches. Sigh.

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  26. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Scott, you are so not worth my typing fingers but I will give it a try nonetheless.
    PPACA will not increase the cost of insurance for ME and MY BUSINESS. It has already REDUCED those costs. I know that this is the case for small business throughout Nevada County. So, given that our health care system has been dysfunctional for so many years, and we now are on a road to recovery, ass wipes like Scott O. just make me really irritated.
    Scott, give it up buddy. You’re just another closet racist sitting up on your church-y hill, hating the black man president and rolling those balls in your hand Captain Queeg-like, shivering and quivering in spiteful angst, looking over your shoulder for the boogeyman that will never come.
    Get help.

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  27. Russ Steele Avatar

    A thirty year IT expert Bruce Webster writes about Obamacare, IT, and magic thinking
    “A very common pattern in a IT project such as the Healthcare.gov website is that those in the trenches know how bad things are, but those at the top don’t — or don’t want to know, leading to a phenomenon I noticed many years ago and named “the thermocline of truth“. What usually happens is that the ‘truth layer’ moves up the ranks as the scheduled deadline approaches, and the whole project is suddenly delayed just weeks or even days before going live.
    Sometimes, however, the folks at the top insist that the system go live, even though everyone below them knows the system is not ready for prime time (or ready for late night or even ready for the wee small hours of the morning). They have this wishful belief that any “kinks” or “glitches” can be worked out after the system has launched, possibly by taking it off-line from time to time late at night or over weekends. They also believe that the vital importance of this system means that it just must somehow work, and that their sincerity and good intentions will overcome any technical issues.
    This is, of course, feeble-minded crap. Software is very, very unforgiving, and if you haven’t taken the right approach to ensure proper functionality, performance, and quality, no amount of wishing and hoping and planning and dreaming is going to make it work right.”
    My emphasis added.
    It is time for the wishful thinking in the White House to end and let reality take over. Obamacare is going nowhere except into the black hole of all failed IT projects, along with the millions of wasted taxpayer dollars.

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  28. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    So Michael thinks that since PPACA didn’t increase HIS costs that proves his case for the entire country. Glad to hear you have lower costs for now, Michael. You might want to pay attention to those around you. I would like to know what data you have about the rest of small businesses in Nevada County. If they are under the threshold for the minimum number of employees (for now) then PPACA wouldn’t even apply and they can eliminate their costs. What about their employees?
    And thanks for the description of me based on what evidence? I’m printing it out to show my friends and family. You are an amusing fellow. Please keep posting here with your wit and intelligence. Saves me from going to Daily Kos and increasing their click count.

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  29. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    He will pay the fine and boot his 5 employees. Voila, lower costs.

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  30. Gregory Avatar

    Todd, the President of ClientWorks is not going to boot his wife or himself, and the other three (assuming the website is accurate) are probably the ones doing most of the boring grunt work that pays the bills. It may well be that the particular mix of young and old in that little company does bring his cost down a bit… just enough of the younger to balance the cost of the gray hair at the top.
    It also may not be a conforming Obamacare policy like an individual would have available, as companies have a one year waiver.
    mandersonation, 11:34 “did all 7 justices invoke the 14th for the same reason? No, of course they didn’t”
    Yes, they did. All 7 noticed that the way the Florida Supremes was handling the recounts that Equal Protection for voters was violated, which is why they signed on to that opinion. Two of the seven didn’t agree with the remedy decided by the majority (which iirc was to uphold a lower Florida Court decision the SCOFL threw out) and either did I: it should have been thrown to the Florida state legislature, the constitutional remedy for a failed election, but it wouldn’t have made a difference in the end because at the time it was majority GOP with a GOP governor named Bush.
    It should also be noted the Democrat who was the Chief Justice of the SCOFL, along with two other Democrats of the SCOFL in their dissent from the majority opinion of the other 4 Democrats of the SCOFL, that what they were doing was unconstitutional on, IIRC, 14th amendment grounds.
    In short, despite all the huffing and puffing, the 14th and Equal Protection (not Outcomes) seems to be in good shape.

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  31. Gregory Avatar

    MA is apparently very happy about the size of his putz (9:08PM) but his business college IT bachelors and computer maintenance business experience doesn’t compare with George’s academic or professional background.

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  32. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Gregory, thanks for the info on MA. I will check out his website.
    The Florida SCOTUS had decided to allow a recount in the two or three counties that Gore had won. They were allowing a fishing expedition. The US SCOTUS said the whole state had ro be recounted, every county. It was not really about a individual protection under the 14th but in my view a fairness issue of cherry picking a county return.
    MA is obsessed with the privates of life isn’t he?

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  33. Gregory Avatar

    “The argument Obama won in 2012 about the role of government has already been squandered. The Obamacare rollout is a disaster for progressive politics, says Kirsten Powers” in her latest DailyBeast op-ed
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/25/obama-can-t-blame-the-republicans-this-time.html
    Ms. Powers, an Obama supporter, apparently got a reality check recently when her existing insurance policy was canceled and had to shop for a new ACA conforming policy. A relative youngster, an Obamacare policy that is roughly equivalent to her old individual policy will be about $300/mo, up from $160.

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  34. Walt Avatar

    WEB design and government computer programs….. HHHUUmmmmmm. Where have we had issues that cost the taxpayers PLENTY more than once? OH.. YYAaaa.. Right HERE..
    We all saw how cost conscious our drop in the bucket local politicians were, when they played with contracts, and “we know best” attitudes.
    And it happened more than once. Now we can see the same nonsense, cost, and finger pointing on a national scale.
    BTW.. I hear that the San Jose aria is planning to recall some people
    over their anti gun votes. (OH goody goody !)More fireworks coming soon.
    Sac. Bee? Not a word.(yet)
    http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24381934/california-gun-control-votes-trigger-recall-attempts
    As you would expect, the LIBS are thumping their girly man chests down there
    saying ” You think you can recall one of us?? LOL!! Good luck.”
    Of course I couldn’t let a comment like that go un answered.. ” Uh,,, how did that work in your favor in Colorado?” ( I have yet to receive a response)

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  35. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    George, didn’t California have some debacles with computers? I recall welfare progra,s and the DMV. I think the DMV one was shelved after a gazillion bucks.

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  36. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Dr. Haldol, Dr. Haldol, we have a man down in Ward 7! Stat!!

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  37. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Web sites are not the real issue here, but it is fun to gab about our sheer astonishment on how bad is it getting and how counterproductive it will be. Mind blowing, jaw dropping and dumbfounding. Tickles the old back of the neck for sure. Wonder if Obamacare was what Chris Mattews was referring to when he said it gives him tingles down his leg. Or was that up his leg? How easily we forget. Only Uncle Sam could take the world famous Mustang Ranch and run it into bankruptcy.
    The real point is that Obamacare, not the website, will be an overall disaster with each passing month. Each month more will be uncovered, discovered, and discarded by the good citizens of the USA. Don’t see our Congress running out to sign up before the deadline, do you? Don’t see 100s of thousands of union members standing on the overpasses of America’s shooting blanks with their pants around their ankles in glee and celebreation, do you? Not a peep from the teachers unions either. Or Wall Stret. Or burger joints or shipping docks or the phone company dudettes or rice farmers. Well, maybe Sandra Fluke is busting open her clam over Obamacare, put this ACA thing in total is like a car heading down a mountain without brakes. And we are the passengers. Watch out below, INCOMING!
    This is the same punk that feels so much distain for old crippled World War II vets that he went out of his way to bar them from a once in a lifetime journey to visit the open air Vets Memorial beofre they die off or can’t make the journey. And it cost us taxpayers more money to get up barricades. This punk is named Obama and his signature legislation is called Obamacare. Obama Care? Care? Grip this punk.
    Jesse Jackson was wrong when he said somebody should take a knife and cut Obama’s gonads off. Hey Jesse, it would not have done any good. We already have a dickless man in the White House hiding from the Press and who would rather be in Las Vegas than the Situation Room as American boys are being dragged through the streets of Benghasi.
    Can’t blame us Republicans for this one. Obamacare is all yours, Eunich.
    So, if you think you are nice and safe from ObamaCare cause you got Kaiser, think again:
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/24/health-insurance-cancellation-notices-soar-above-obamacare-enrollment-rates/

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  38. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Russ, thanks for your thoughtful comment regarding IT projects. This was the point I was trying to make rather inelegantly in my 9:28pm 10/23 comment. The HITECH rollout the past several years is a good example of that which you describe.
    http://www.healthit.gov/policy-researchers-implementers/hitech-act-0

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  39. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Tozer, my hero, wrote: “Grip this, punk.”
    And, “…a dickless man in the White House…”
    Dude, welcome to the Member Museum. You have duly earned your space on the first floor. Well done, and high fives.
    After all, for many who don’t get it–and I will reiterate once again–RR is one of the finest comedy blogs on the entire Internet. It would actually be #1 if Scott Obermuller, who makes plants die when he walks by them (is it the pipe tobacco he uses??), would stop commenting here.

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  40. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George, I have a comment to Russ that is stuck in the Typepad spam dungeon due to a link the guard didn’t like. Please release the prisoner. Thanks.

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  41. Russ Steele Avatar

    Todd,
    Effort to upgrade to California’s payroll system failing. Reported Thursday, August 15, 2013. The 10-year effort to upgrade California’s payroll system has been a disaster. After spending $254 million, it doesn’t work, and may not be salvageable.
    More at 11:00 News. Not really.

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  42. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Todd wrote: “George, didn’t California have some debacles with computers?”
    Yes, apparently they have allowed the sale of computers to morons. A debacle.
    Witness the fact that you must have a computer in order to run your echo-chamber lizard site, which is akin to leaving a loaded HK45 Compact Tactical in the local kindergarten next to the boxes of Crayolas. The fact that you were allowed to buy one on the open market is a travesty.
    Computers should be registered and licensed, and then allowed for use only by those who can demonstrate basic competency. Todd, that ain’t you, buddy, so it’s time to do the responsible thing and turn in your computer to the proper authorities.

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  43. Russ Steele Avatar

    Todd,
    February 14, 2013. Half-finished $208-million DMV technology overhaul canceled. The part of the project that was intended to revamp the process for registering vehicles was halted because little progress was being made, officials said.
    September 28, 2013. California unemployment welfare system breaking down, workers receiving death threats for late ‘benefit checks’ Saturday, They still do not have it fixed according the report logs leaked to the press.
    Things are going real well in California IT, as they flush our tax money down an black hole.

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  44. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Todd wrote: “He will pay the fine and boot his 5 employees. Voila, lower costs.”
    Todd, this is actually libel. But the funny thing is, coming from you, it’s anti-libel! Anything you say about me that is derogatory actually increases the value of my brand, because most of the people I know and respect in this county view your opinions as a good reason to do exactly the opposite.
    So, continue to break the law and keep being Nevada County’s iconic former supervisor lizard fellow. It is nature’s way.

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  45. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    GG wrote: “Two of the seven didn’t agree with the remedy decided by the majority.”
    Thank you for finally agreeing with what I have been trying to get across the past few days. Why is everything like pulling teeth with tweezers on this site?

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  46. Gregory Avatar

    “Dr. Haldol, Dr. Haldol, we have a man down in Ward 7! Stat!!”
    I do hope your wife and sons are fans of your postings. Your boys especially should know how their father thinks Anderson family men should behave.
    9:38PM MA, it’s because you couldn’t help but state it incorrectly, over and over; your difficulty here is due to the dark orifice your head is so often found.
    The SCOTUS stopped the SCOFL from stealing the election, and Al Gore fans just can’t get over losing.

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  47. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Greg once again stuck his finger in an inappropriate location and pulled out a plum; “…and the other three are probably the ones doing most of the boring grunt work that pays the bills.”
    Seriously Greg? This is where you want to go? I have a dossier on your work history in Nevada County since you first arrived, as well as a detailed account of your pilot doings over the years. Remember, it ain’t libel if it’s true. Right?
    You are a sad man, and you are a taker, not a giver, at least in your current form of dis-ease. Something deep inside is struggling to get some kind of affirmation that will never ever happen, and you are angry at the world. You lash out in these various forums, in hurtful and non-constructive ways.
    I have been so sorely tempted to let your fellow commentators know all of the sordid details of the “GG in Nevada County story” but I still don’t do it, despite your constant crossing of boundaries that make me want to respond appropriately.
    Greg, have you ever thought about why I don’t do that? I don’t think you have, so I am going to tell you. It is because I was raised in a household where basic manners applied. You didn’t speak ill of others, you did your level best to say your pleases and thank yous at all times, you didn’t speak unless spoken to, and you were polite at all costs. For the past 5 years I have had this dossier with the facts that would re-characterize this entire discussion.
    But I don’t do it because it would be really bad manners.
    And I will continue to hold back this information, regardless of your reckless actions. You are who you are, and I can’t change it. So, go on being you. I know you say that I don’t live in your brain, but your actions, words, and deeds speak otherwise. And as I have said before, I have empathy for you, truly I do. I hope that you can be a happier man before your travels on this planet come to the final end.
    Peace out, bro.

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  48. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Greg dribbled: “Your boys especially should know how their father thinks Anderson family men should behave.”
    They have been trained to have good manners. But when there are bullies around, you bloody their filthy little noses. Peace through strength and all that. Remember, I am a Republican. And though I don’t abhor war, it is sometimes the only way to get rid of malevolent shitpiles who apparently have no redeeming value. Isn’t that the history of the human race?
    Keep crossing those lines, buddy. Have you ever read the various books by Miss Manners? She is good.

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  49. Gregory Avatar

    “I have been so sorely tempted to let your fellow commentators know all of the sordid details of the “GG in Nevada County story” but I still don’t do it, despite your constant crossing of boundaries that make me want to respond appropriately.”
    There are no sordid details, Mike. You don’t do it because there is no such story you can tell.

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  50. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Whoops…typing too fast. I certainly DO abhor war in general, unless it is completely necessary.

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