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George Rebane

The Grand Experiment of America is nothing less than to test the historical question – Can man govern himself?  Our Founders repeatedly asked that question of themselves as they labored to give the new nation the appropriate tools of governance so as to stack the deck in favor of a ‘Yes!’ answer.  Jefferson’s admonishment put a bow on the prerequisites for such an answer – ‘A nation ignorant and free, that never was and never shall be.’  And over the last fifty years we have embarked on a course that has resurrected the worst fears of those courageous and farsighted men now two and a half centuries past.

I look at the inventory of evidence and cannot help but start with our national education system which has spread multi-generational ‘dumbth’ deep and wide across the land.   From its schools emerge legions of young deeply ignorant of history and civics with inadequeate tools to help themselves since they are marginally literate and almost totally innumerate.  They join those millions already on the sidelines from the workforce who have no means to evaluate the steady rain of ‘information’ that drenches them daily through countless channels enabled by an accelerating technology.  These are what are commonly referred to as America’s sheeple.  (cf Bryan Caplan’s Myth of the Rational Voter)

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If we examine some of these deficits operating in the daily round, the picture of where we are headed becomes very clear.


The federal government has ‘shut down’ according to the reports from Washington.  Well not exactly.  But supposedly there are 800,000 federal workers whose services will be dispensed with during this political poker game that the Republicans are destined to lose.  The question unasked is how would we manage if these same workers were not recalled.  Yes, we could take a more precise scalpel to who will now do what to make sure that we could still visit national parks and museums, etc.  But I argue that the overwhelming number of these folks could be given early retirement, and the country would benefit enormously as the friction caused by these same people is eliminated.  I argue further that it would even benefit us greatly if we just told them not to report to work while continuing to pay them their usual wages – just stay home and spend the checks you will get without interruption.  The expense to buy that relief would be worth it.

As I reported earlier (here), our country’s economy is now permanently on its butt.  Obama’s lies notwithstanding, the nation will need and is prepared to print an additional tranche of about $1T annually to maintain interest rates at illusory levels and pump unearned dollars into the economy.  This exercise is neither beneficial nor inconsequential.  It is the final bamboozle by our politicians and elites that allow them to get out of Dodge before Dodge comes unglued.  As always, the then current ‘honorables’ in Washington will tell us that the troubles weren’t caused on their watch as they go on to institute more draconian policies to protect themselves and maintain civil order while Depression2 gains momentum.  (more here)

The IPCC’s AR5 report released last Friday and today is a grand exemplar of international fraud.  To put it simply, it ignores the stark evidence of the temperature and CO2 record along with the performance of its grossly errant computer models to double down on predictions of dire consequences for the earth’s climate.  The models have not been able to corroborate the longitudinal evidence, nor have they been able to predict or account for the recent past.  AR5 is simply a propaganda document to allow the world’s central planners to argue for the next round of restrictions on human liberties and actions in the developed world.  The ‘developing’ world could care less.  Lacking any vestige of critical thinking skills the sheeple will fall into the lines drawn by their socialist elites.  (more here)

Obamacare – as the feds use taxpayer dollars to sell the unsellable, we are soothed by statements like ‘even Apple has to fix its software after it is released’ designed to prepare us for the train wreck that is now in full swing.  The undisseminated truth is that the system design and implementation for the insurance exchanges and follow-on physician services processing is an unholy mess.  Its performance cannot be improved by ‘software fixes’, simply because underneath the coding glitches lies a systems design that is fatally flawed from its first performance requirements specification (if even one was generated) onward.  The feds have had two years to get this system up and tested, and the result is exactly as expected by everyone except the clueless and their local lackies.  (more here)

While they attempt to redo the system, countless and uncounted people will suffer and die, because this is now the new healthcare system in which you could not keep your old doctor or health insurance policy for reasons known and reasons still to be uncovered by the Pelosi Principle.  Meanwhile, the lamestream and the usual choruses will sing anthems to another successful campaign of government taking over one more sector from a market economy that they have vilified for the last century or so.

This litany is not yet complete, but its intended objective – an omni-beneficient state – was already anticipated by Frederic Bastiat in the 1840s as his native France was writhing to give birth to yet another ‘republic’ that would hew more to the principles that Marx was then compiling on the other side of the Rheine.  (Over two centuries later, socialist France still hasn’t got its revolution sorted out.)  He outlined then what our current crop of collectivist envision now, a munificent state to dispense

bread for all mouths, work for all hands, capital for all enterprises, credit for all projects, salve for all wounds, balm for all sufferings, advice for all perplexities, solutions for all doubts, truths for all intellects, diversions for all who want them, milk for infancy, and wine for old age – which can provide for all our wants, all our curiosity, correct all our errors, repair all our faults, and exempt us henceforth from the necessity for foresight, prudence, judgment, sagacity, experience, order, economy, temperance and activity.

That we expect all this while putting up with the obvious signs of disaster rising is proof enough for this observer to again affirm that the tipping point is a long way behind us.

[2oct13 update]  Ramirez
captures precisely what the public accepts as the Left’s justified position to
not negotiate and blame the whole thing on the Republicans.

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[more]  I have been waiting to hear some media commentators raise the subject of what both parties bring to any negotiation should the Dems grant that privilege as called for in the Constitution.  It is clear what cards Team Obama holds in such proceedings.  But no one has mentioned the only cards that the Repubs can play – oppose the Continuing Resolution and/or raising the national debt ceiling so we can continue spending without recourse.

And that’s the point, ‘recourse’.  In adding to the avalanche of evidence on the national dumbth, the Dems can face the cameras and ask with a straight face for the Repubs to pass a “clean” CR and the President says he will not negotiate on raising the debt ceiling.  So if the Repubs do neither, they will be blamed by the sheeple for not knuckling to the Dems’ ‘my way or the highway’, and if they do both what levers do they have left to reduce the country’s maniacal spending and printing spree – none whatsoever.  And again, the triumvirate of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi know that the overwhelming number of voters, most certainly all of their constituents, don’t have a clue about this standoff – the proportion of double dummies out there is mind numbing.

I can understand why the lamestream does not educate their viewers and readers about this.  But what really puzzles me is why the conservative side of the media are silent about it.  Why can’t they say at every opportunity that if the Repubs cave on rolling back parts of Obamacare and entitlements, then they might as well fold their hands and start lighting candles for the 2014 elections.

To add insult to injury, the Dems know that the voters are so ignorant that they will not even pick up on the obvious ‘in your face’ shut downs of national monuments, the feds using extra labor to put up fences around open air memorials and adding guards where none were on duty before to keep visitors at a distance just to emphasize the politics of a government ‘shut down’.  You really have to be stupid to swallow all that, and the Dems are betting that they know their audience.

What more would you want to see for proof of concept?

[6oct13 update]  My assertion above that the problem with the Obamacare subscriber/patient system was not a ‘software glitch’ as repeated by every Team Obama member during the last week is corroborated in the reports that are now coming out admitting errors in the “design of the system” and architectural “flaws” beyond the usual bevy of software errors in a poorly tested system (more here).  The question now is whether these system design flaws were purposefully planted or overlooked in the 3+ years developers had to get Obamacare up and running.  Sheer incompetence in these matters of government involvement can never be overlooked, but there is always the pull of going to a single payer system instead of fixing the current mess.  But all this flies over the heads of the eternally confused flock out there.

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88 responses to “National Ignorance – Proof of Concept Working (updated 6oct13)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    Here is more proof of a nation in decline from Con Coughlin writing at the UK Telegraph:
    While the White House insists that essential areas of the government, such as the military, will continue to function, the shut down represents yet a further blow to the prestige of the Obama administration at a time when it is still reeling from its inept handling of the recent Syrian crisis.
    There was a time not so long ago when the world looked to America for both political and economic leadership. But now that can no longer be taken for granted thanks to Mr Obama’s inability to provide decisive leadership on either front.
    Republicans rightly argue that by pressing ahead with Obamacare before the implications of the programme have been properly assessed risks adding to America’s debt mountain at a time when the American economy is still recovering from the biggest economic crisis in recent history.
    The emergence of Russia, meanwhile, as the main power broker in the Syria crisis has severely damaged America’s standing as a major global player.
    In short, the longer the Obama presidency continues, the more America’s status as a superpower ebbs away.
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100238900/us-government-shutdown-barack-obama-is-presiding-over-the-end-of-americas-superpower-status/

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  2. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    I suppose the War in Iraq was the result of group think by mental giants. Also the nomination of Sara Palin. By the way, can you explain what you mean by the great unwashed? Does that refer to the hygienic habits of people you disagree with?

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 725pm – No, ‘great unwashed’ is the now politically incorrect colloquialism that refers to the hoi polloi, and is used here to pique liberal sensitivities.

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar

    Kind of like “ragheads”

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    No like “republicrat”

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  6. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Republicrat is not derogatory Todd but an accurate description of someone who claims to be either a Demster or Pubber because we actually have a one party system. It’s only the hopelessly naive that believe otherwise.

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  7. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr. Rebane, I hope we are not past the tipping point, but my hope may be akin to a schoolboy whistling in the dark as he passes the graveyard.
    Part of me says we survived Carter we can survive this. But the Carter years were just the beginning of the decline in education. Talk about a slippery slope since then. I read blogs (only post here) and I see there are a bunch of people who think as I do. The “don’t tread of me” types. The ones who still believe in the American dream, the work ethic, and those able bodied persons of working age who think receiving gov’t aide like food stamps is perhaps the most embarrassing lowest point in one’s entire life, albeit temporary. I cannot be alone.
    You don’t work, you don’t eat. And gov’t’s role is not to eat my lunch.
    I look at the QE, the debt, the deficit, the public education system, Obamacare, unfunded liabilities and a myriad of too big to solve problems. Each problem is enormous in and of itself and each problem is a different rail car attacted to the runaway train. And its a long train headed to the place where things crash and burn. The bone yard.
    But the most troubling thing I see is this attitude that government owes me something, or government is the first place to turn to. “Ask not what we can do for our country, rather ask what my country can do for me” is today’s deep seated attitude and belief. It sickens me. Its ingrained. And it is the biggest obstacle of all. The root of the poison tree.
    If we are past the tipping point, I know what to do. Dust myself off and start preparing as any prudent person would do. Just got to wait and hope that after this generation dies off another generation will rise to recapture what has been taken from us. People of courage and foresight do not ask “Where my Obamaphone?” Not today, not ever.

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    BillT 942pm – Well said Mr Tozer. Please understand that my hopes viz America and our dreams for it and the future are the same as yours, and remain firm. By ‘past the tipping point’ I have always meant that we will not recover to a business as usual (e.g. the 1950s) state of being without first having to SUCCESSFULLY undergo a national catharsis. And the longer that catharsis is delayed by centrally planned artificial nostrums and palliatives that induce an attitude reflected in the (above) paragraph by Bastiat, the less likely that we’ll survive the catharsis as a single sovereign nation-state which can beneficially trace its founding to 1776.
    Given the rapid progress in genomics, nano-tech, and machine intelligence, tomorrow will be very different from any other epoch in human history. And today we are preparing to fight tomorrow’s societal ‘war’ with ideas and methods that didn’t even work in past wars.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar

    Back to the 50’s George? Are you sure?
    Is it a coincidence George that the 50’s state of being you refer to was the time of the highest percentage of workers being Unionized ant the highest progressive income tax rates for the wealthy and corporations. The lowest tax rate in the 50’s was 20% and the highest 91% according to the Conservative think tank the American Enterprise Institute. They also say “Back to the 1950s? Forget it. We need pro-growth tax reform that will get this country moving again.”
    http://www.aei-ideas.org/2012/04/why-we-cant-go-back-to-sky-high-1950s-tax-rates/

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  10. Paul Emery Avatar

    There are cracks in the cathedral. From todays Politico
    “Some House Republicans facing perilous paths to reelection in 2014 are beginning to budge on the government shutdown, calling for the party to compromise and move on from its fight over defunding Obamacare.
    “Republicans fought the good fight. The fight continues but is not advanced by a government shutdown that damages our economy and harms our military,” Virginia Rep. Scott Rigell said in a statement. “The time has come to pass a clean CR to reopen the government……nd Pennsylvania Rep. Pat Meehan said: “I came to Washington to fix government, not shut it down. At this point, I believe it’s time for the House to vote for a clean, short-term funding bill to bring the Senate to the table and negotiate a responsible compromise.”
    New Jersey Rep. Jon Runyan said: “Enough is enough. Put a clean (continuing resolution) on the floor and let’s gets on with the business we were sent to do.”
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/vulnerable-republicans-end-the-shutdown-97654.html#ixzz2gXbStVls

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  11. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George, Paul completely pwned you on that one (millennial speak for “owned”).

    In all fairness, I feel the need to post my comment here as I did at Pelline’s site tonight. After all, this was my gift to you. Thank you Ben Emery, nice work.

    Sierra Foothills Report
    Michael Anderson, on October 1, 2013 at 4:15 pm said:
    These Tea Party traitors are enemies of freedom, liberty, and the Constitution. They should find another country in which to live. America, love it or leave it.
    Reply
    Michael Anderson, on October 1, 2013 at 10:34 pm said:
    Ben, truth be told, when I stop at Bruno’s in Gerlach, I always order Coors in a can. Been doing that there since 1979, just a habit I guess. Back then, microbrews didn’t exist, and the exports were 3x in price (junk like Dos Equis). Coors is an American beer from the west and I could give a rat’s ass about their politics. I drink it proudly, in the appropriate places. BTW, Budweiser is a rice beer from St. Louis, so no thank you.
    Never was a dipper, but smoked way more than my share of Camel filters till I quit when I turned 24 yrs. old. Saved my life that day. I’ve smoked a few since then, but always with ill-effected ill affect.
    Thanks, Ben, for the video. I took the time to jot down some of the lyrics. For those who missed it, here you are:
    “If things don’t go their way, they can always move away.
    That’s what democracy means, anyway.
    It’s America–
    You got no right to deceive it, it’s the best there is,
    and you better believe it.
    Good men gave their lives,
    so we could live to see it.
    It’s America, love it or leave it.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9JPEz6umM5s
    Michael A.

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  12. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Gee Paul, reasonableness. What a concept.
    This is what I would like. Accountability. I am going to print a very simple questionnaire below. I would like for the appropriate parties to respond:
    Gov’t Shutdown Good?
    YES / NO
    * George Yes / No
    * Gregory Yes / No
    * “Tozer” Yes / No
    * “Dirt Mover” Yes / No
    * Todd Juvinall Yes / No
    * “fish” Yes / No
    * Scott O. @ the church Yes / No
    * Mikey D. Yes / No
    * Steve F. Yes / No
    * Paul E. Yes / No
    More at 11!

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  13. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    A short shutdown is a non-event. This one looks like it will last until the debt ceiling limit debate on Oct 17. Then I will vote.

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  14. fish Avatar
    fish

    Government Shutdown – Good/Bad
    Bad if it only goes a week or two. Good if it goes longer and shows the American people it can do with a whole lot less than it has now.
    This reflexive knee jerk fear of not being adequately “governed” by you proglodytes absolutely mystifies me!?
    I mean, you all claim to be so smart, so well credentialed, but go a day without direction from upper management and you want to drop to the floor and curl into the fetal position.

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  15. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Since government has not shut down, just a slimdown, I reject your premise. I reject the premise coupled with no name calling. Reality, what a concept.

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  16. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    BillT, excellent. MichaelA’s premise is false. Therefore his opinion is false. It appears he has a lot of time on his hands. I wonder why? Naw, don’t care.

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Fish, can I use “proglodytes” too? Too funny.

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  18. Paul Emery Avatar

    Michael A question 11:26
    Bad The Pubsters need to go to work and elect a President and Senate to get what they want. They are twisting slowly slowly in the wind. It’s a tantrum and is being perceived by the American public as such. It’s ironic because Demos will actually gain in the mid term elections because of it.

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  19. fish Avatar
    fish

    Todd…if you’re stealing from me you’re stealing twice…so knock yourself out!
    (ps: I already stole it from reason.com).

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  20. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Thanks fish.
    PaulE the dems and reps are about even in the polls regarding blame. Obama is right there too. In 1995 the election after that shutdown, the R’s held the house and I think the Senate. So you can wish all you want that the R’s will be punished but it is a fantasy.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Readers can take your comments for what it’s worth, You were 11% off in picking Romney last year by 8%. It was Obama by 3.5.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    BTW only 17% of voters disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job. The Dems nearly double them at 32%. Nuff said.
    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm
    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm

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  23. George Rebane Avatar

    I think that Ramirez nails the intellectual content of the current debt ceiling debate (see 2oct13 update).

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  24. fish Avatar
    fish

    The plot thickens……
    From Bruce Krasting via Zero Hedge
    As a long time watcher of Social Security I was shocked (yes, shocked) at the recent Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report on America’s largest entitlement program. CBO concluded that the long term outlook for SS deteriorated substantially over the last twelve month. (CBO link)
    CBO revised its assumptions regarding mortality. This is a huge variables for SS. With people living longer, they will receive more checks; this eats into the solvency of SS over a long-term period.
    CBO concluded that one option to ‘balance’ the solvency of SS required an “Immediately and Permanent” payroll tax increase of 3.4% (Wow!). A year earlier, CBO stated that a payroll tax increase of 1.9% was required to balance SS. The change in the tax increase required is 70% higher than that reported just a year ago!
    SS’s taxable payroll is equal to 36.3% of GDP. That comes to $5.8 Trillion for 2013. A 3.4% tax increase translates to approximately $200 Bn! A tax increase of this magnitude would absolutely sink the economy. There is no chance in hell that anything like that could (or should) happen. However, there are a variety of other alternatives to tweak SS that would not have the negative consequences of such a big tax increase.
    Were not for the fact that the country is managing its finances on a month to month basis, the rapidly growing problems at SS would be high on the list of problems that need attention. Clearly, the White House has read the CBO report. I wonder if the WH will use the rapidly deteriorating condition of SS as its “lever” in negotiating with Republicans over the budget and the debt limit.
    Would Obama throw SS under the bus to achieve an extension of the debt limit and an end to the shutdown? Of course he would. Some things that might happen as part of a ‘big deal’ to buy a resolution of the immediate crisis(s):
    I) Raise the cap on taxable earning- liberals love this.
    II) Raise the retirement age – Obama has already pushed for this.
    III) Means test SS retirement benefits – Republicans wanted this for Medicare.
    IV) Change the COLA inflation adjustment. Liberals hate this, Republicans want it, Obama has pushed for it.
    If all four of these steps were adopted, it would have Zero consequence to the economy for the next three years. Obama would love that outcome.
    What’s the most important thing for Obama? To end the debate over ACA. Would he trade ObamaCare for big changes to SS? In a New York minute.
    As near as I can tell, there is currently no basis for a resolution to the budget impasse, and it looks like we are headed off the cliff on the debt limit. Something has to give. SS may be the lever that the Big O needs for a deal that saves his presidency. The Tea Party folks in the House will not vote for anything that allows ACA to continue, but there are a fair number of moderate Republicans who would trade SS for ACA. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) would puke at this result, so would Harry Reid (D-NV. But if they apposed a deal, then they would be the ones responsible for a national default (Republicans would love this outcome).
    Would Obama push his pals off a cliff to get a deal? The answer is that he has no other viable options.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-10-02/obama-i-need-lever

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  25. fish Avatar
    fish

    George,
    Von Mises, Hayek, Marx…..who are the remaining two?

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  26. Gregory Avatar

    A quick quiz… the law requires the Senate to pass a budget before April 15 each year. When was the last budget Harry Reid passed and signed by the President?
    No, Continuing Resolutions are not the solution. The House has primacy in taxing and spending, and the Speaker controls the House, all with good Constitutional justification. This BS over ‘holding the country hostage’ is because the argument over spending as a whole has been punted since April 2009, the last time Reid did his job.
    I told a couple of active GOP friends weeks ago that I hoped there wouldn’t be CR brinksmanship and instead just let Obamacare run its course up to the 2014 elections and let the realities sink in (I don’t think the kiddies in involuntary servitude servicing crushing student loan debt sold to them by an ed industry looking out for themselves are going to be enthusiastic about subsidizing their parent’s healthcare), but the fiscal crap will hit the fan sooner or later.

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  27. Gregory Avatar

    fish, the last two are Bastiat and Engles.

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  28. Gregory Avatar

    Make that “Engels”

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  29. fish Avatar
    fish

    Bastiat was the one that I “knew” but couldn’t name.
    Meh….getting old!
    I told a couple of active GOP friends weeks ago that I hoped there wouldn’t be CR brinksmanship and instead just let Obamacare run its course up to the 2014 elections and let the realities sink in (I don’t think the kiddies in involuntary servitude servicing crushing student loan debt sold to them by an ed industry looking out for themselves are going to be enthusiastic about subsidizing their parent’s healthcare), but the fiscal crap will hit the fan sooner or later.
    Agree completely.

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  30. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    Todd “the dems and reps are about even in the polls regarding blame. Obama is right there too”
    Who people are laying the blame on depends on which poll you look at. CNN has it at 46% GOP’s fault and 36% Dem. CBS/NYTimes has itst 44% GOP and 35% Dem. The more conservative leaning PEW poll is closer at 39% GOP and 36% “Dem. 72% of all people disagree with the shutdown even though they are about evenly split on Obamacare. 25% of all people think the GOP is being responsible with 69% characterize the GOP as “acting like spoiled children”, while only 47% ascribe the spoiled label to Obama.

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  31. Paul Emery Avatar

    Todd
    Rewrite:
    BTW only 17% of voters approve of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job. The Dems nearly double them at 32%. Nuff said.
    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm
    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm

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  32. fish Avatar
    fish

    Paul, JoeK
    I hope you guys totally sweep the next election cycle!

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  33. Gregory Avatar

    “In our latest poll, the public divides blame over a possible shutdown: about as [many] say the Obama administration would be to blame for failing to avoid a shutdown (36%) as Republicans (39%).”
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/30/the-last-government-shutdown-and-now-a-different-environment/
    Koyote referred to the “more conservative leaning PEW poll” but the solid left Slate writes “The nonprofit Pew Research Center is one of the least biased, most reliable polling organizations in the country”. I’d put their basic point of view as moderate Democrat but take their charge of non-partisan public research seriously so they do try to be even handed.

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  34. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    “Koyote referred to the “more conservative leaning PEW poll” but the solid left Slate writes “The nonprofit Pew Research Center is one of the least biased, most reliable polling organizations in the country”” — Gregory — did you happen to read the article from which that quote came from or did you just copy the quote from the Google synopsis? For those who missed it, the article was about a study by PEW of it own polling and how telephone polls in general have reliability problems. Interesting article that demonstrates how poll samples really may not reflect the larger population.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    I call your attention to the 2oct13 update to this post.

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  36. jarebane Avatar
    jarebane

    test comment

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  37. Paul Emery Avatar

    Fish 12:48
    You Guys sweep the election? You don’t think I’m a Democrat do you?

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  38. fish Avatar
    fish

    You don’t think I’m a Democrat do you?
    Yes I do….. a very tightly closeted and politically confused democrat.
    You would probably feel better if you just came out to your friends and family…there isn’t the same stigma that there once was for that sort of aberrant lifestyle choice.

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  39. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George wrote: “I call your attention to the 2oct13 update to this post.”
    Everything you wrote is true. One problem: this is chess, not tiddlywinks. It has been known for months that this shutdown was a bad strategy for the Tea-publicans. They did it anyway. Bishop to H-3, and the National Parks and Monuments are shut down. What would you have Obama do, close the EPA and Dept. of Education? Why would he do that?
    Our disagreements are much more about the tactics than the problems, George. To paraphrase: “Some say that you are a dreamer, and you might be the only one.”

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  40. fish Avatar
    fish

    Everything you wrote is true. One problem: this is chess, not tiddlywinks.
    Then you have no business commenting…..perhaps another relatable about your love of canned Coors beer….
    It has been known for months that this shutdown was a bad strategy for the Tea-publicans. They did it anyway.
    When your enemy is screwing up let him go! Why do you, Peachie and the Emery boys cling to the fiction that you aren’t full on screaming lefties? If that’s your creed might as well just own up to it.
    Bishop to H-3, and the National Parks and Monuments are shut down. What would you have Obama do, close the EPA and Dept. of Education? Why would he do that?
    I would have…the EPA is expensive…… and truth be told most of the real work is done by the states. Dept of Ed?? Close them down and we might inadvertently educate someone…lord knows Team Democrat can’t have that!
    Our disagreements are much more about the tactics than the problems, George. To paraphrase: “Some say that you are a dreamer, and you might be the only one.”
    “Some say that you are a dreamer, and you might be the only one.”
    ?????
    Maybe to come down off your high you could sleep in the backyard and incinerate something that looks vaguely “man” shaped until next years get together. I’m worried about you dude…you’re verging off into Keachie territory….not a place in which any sane man wants to find himself!

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  41. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Hey “fish,” no need to worry about me, buddy.
    The fact that I actually use my real name here proves that I am willing to stand by what I write.
    You’re just a little pipsqueak with dirty diapers, supposedly in possession of a superior security clearance but still too scared to stand for anything in public.
    BTW, it’s clear that you didn’t even understand my strategy advice. And I’ll comment wherever I like, thank you, so you don’t need to worry about that either.

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  42. Wayne Hullett Avatar

    Re the national dumbth: I recall travelling in Europe as a young man in the early ’60’s and being surprised at how much better educated young Germans were than I, with my freshly minted college degree and California high school education. As I understood it at the time, in Germany students were sorted into college bound and trade school bound in the sixth grade, and attended different classes from then on. I don’t know if that is still the case there.
    Of course that system would never be possible in this country. The screw-ups who sit in the back and disrupt the class and make fun of anyone who is trying to learn have a “right” to be there all through high school since everyone is “equal”. And then the Nancy Pelosi’s of the country want them to have their “fair share” of the income of those whom they were ridiculing for actually trying to make something of themselves. I don’t think the founders anticipated that method of getting votes.

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  43. Gregory Avatar

    Koyote 6:22pm, I never quote from the google summary. Or bing or any other summary. I quote from the original. An old habit beat into me by my history professors.
    Again, the Slate article clearly stated “The nonprofit Pew Research Center is one of the least biased, most reliable polling organizations in the country.” Slate wouldn’t say that about Rasmussen, or Fox. They’re also honest enough to not claim a lack of bias by the NY Times or BSNBC.
    Of course, you’re just throwing chaff, since you’ve failed to present any evidence that Pew is considered “conservative leaning” by anyone but those leaning very left.

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  44. Gregory Avatar

    No, mandersonation, it isn’t tiddleywinks or chess. It’s a game called “chicken”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_%28game%29
    Obama and Reid’s refusal to work the budget process is very probably because they don’t think the GOP House would go through with it. If the House Tea Party caucus is as crazy as you think it is, you should be afraid. So should Obama and Reid. Maybe even think about coming to a compromise regarding backing off the Obamacare timetable or removing the medical device tax that most everyone wants to go away.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    MichaelA 829pm – “What would you have Obama do, close the EPA and Dept. of Education? Why would he do that?” Oh, I don’t know. Perhaps because he cared for the welfare of the country, and knew the damage that these agencies are doing to America and Americans.

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  46. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Mr. Hullet: When our Dads were young, they didn’t travel Europe gallivanting across the countryside with little backpacks. No siree, they bombed the bejeezus out of it. Not on topic, but I thought I would throw that in.
    Concerning Dr. Rebane’s update to National Ignorance:
    https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1234236_10151630736695911_248784026_n.jpg
    https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1017125_10151667979995911_1869898303_n.png

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  47. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George, I wasn’t talking about the usefulness of the EPA or USDE, I was talking about their effectiveness as a bargaining chip. BTW, ~5% of “essential” EPA and USDE functions are still operating (their web sites are shuttered); 100% of the National Park System is closed.
    Greg, chicken has only two players. You are forgetting the American people, player number 3. They provide the Observer effect, which changes the behavior of that which is being observed. Hence, the chess metaphor.

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  48. Bill Tozer Avatar
    Bill Tozer

    Dr Rebane, why is this park closed? They have their own huge endowment and are staffed by volunteers.
    Best quote in this link: “Utter crap.”
    http://freebeacon.com/shutdown-theater/

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  49. Gregory Avatar

    No, MA, the American people are the bystanders cheering and jeering on the sidelines. Mostly say hooray for our side.
    It’s chicken.

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  50. Gerry Fedor Avatar
    Gerry Fedor

    Interesting that both Houses are still collecting their paychecks…..
    Maybe they should give up their pay too?

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