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George Rebane

California’s Siskiyou County is the latest jurisdiction in the land to voice its opposition to the growing de facto condition of regulation and taxation without representation.  Their stated desire to secede from California is but another cri de coeur in the growing national chorus that laments growing statism.  The success of such movements is unlikely, but the clarity of the delivered messages should not be dismissed.

As Charles Murray has pointed out in Coming Apart (reported here), it is an established part of human nature that people like to live with people who are more than less like themselves.  One of the prime reasons of that is that living with people whose behaviors you can predict more or less reliably is both efficient and gives comfort.  This strong tendency has given rise to distinct cultures, and contributed to the richness and diversity of our world.  It is such a valuable part of human life that wars have been and continue to be fought over the preservation of cultures – in short, people with cultures worth preserving are often willing to sacrifice all in such preservation.

These ideas are foreign or invisible to those of the Left who see the salvation of Mankind in the homogenizing of the world’s cultural differences (witness the great social experiments in cultural homogenization in the USSR, China, Yugoslavia, …).  In these pages I have yet to see a liberal reader who understands the Great Divide.  They all seem to restrict their thinking to hip level reasoning as they start spouting the usual slogans about racism, etc.

Nobelist Daniel Kahneman (along with the late Amos Tversky) devoted their careers to the study of human rationality.  Their findings demonstrated that humans are not reliably rational critters, that the ‘economic man’ was more of an academic fiction than a mathematically predictable agent.  Kahneman and other behavioral economists “call people reasonable if it is possible to reason with them, if their beliefs are generally in tune with reality, and if their preferences are in line with their interests and their values.”

However being a rational person does not necessarily mean that he is reasonable.  The test of rationality involves assessing “whether a person’s beliefs are internally consistent”, in short do they reliably conform to a system of logic.  As Kahneman points out, “a rational person can believe in ghosts so long as all her other beliefs are consistent with the existence of ghosts”, in short “rationality is logical coherence – reasonable or not.”

This conforms to the ideas of utility and multiple logics which I have attempted to illustrate over the last years.  In Thinking Fast and Slow, Kahneman describes numerous experiments and instances in which humans behave irrationally.  In this development he appears to be a supporter of ‘libertarian paternalism’ of the brand that Cass Sunstein, co-author of Nudge, advocates.  Libertarian paternalism is a means of delivering public policy “in which the state and other institutions are allowed to nudge people to make decisions that serve their own long-term interests.”  (And it is, of course, some set of elites who determine our ‘long-term interests’.)

Perhaps nowhere have we seen such a massive demonstration of human irrationality as in the constituencies that voted for Barack Obama.  Here we are talking about women, the young, blacks, Hispanics, etc, all of whom have suffered under the Obama years as their financial fortunes declined after measurable gains and progress over the preceding 25+ years.  And given the evidence in their everyday lives and pocketbooks, they returned the man to office in 2012.  Stephen Moore in ‘Obama’s Economy Hits His Voters Hardest’ in the 4sep13 WSJ goes into the relevant numbers.

It is all of a piece when we consider the Great Divide in the context of our polarized nation.

[update]  Talk about reason and logic going beserk.  Today we attended Congressman LaMalfa’s frogs and toads public hearing at Nevada County’s Rood Center.  There are some yellow bellied, double suckered, single crested frogs or something similar that the US Fish & Wildlife Service tells us is threatened, and it needs a critical habitat and recovery area set aside for it that covers a good swath of the Sierra.  The hearing’s purpose was to inform the public on the progress of this newest endangered species initiative, and allow people to ask questions.  I’m sure that The Union and Yubanet will cover the details, so I won’t bother you with them here.

The public received assurances that the FWS isn’t going to do anything to restrict property rights or hurt the region’s economy.  It doesn’t have the power to do that, so all such damage will be done by other agencies that will subsequently cite the FWS ruling that the multi-toed, yellow-beaked, one-eyed toads need such and such acres for the critters’ recovery, and that will then require another list of things that we can’t do on the affected public lands and private properties.

The supes chambers were filled with people mostly very agitated about the feds continuing to turn the screws on us.  Public trust of the federal government doing anything productive in protecting species and the environment is pretty much gone.  Much of the testimony included citations of the decades’ long mismanagement of the nation’s forests – which now contain fuel densities that create Dresden type firestorms (that some idiots conveniently blame on AGW) – and protection of species (look up the miserable history of the spotted owl).

That progressives are dangerous to your pocket book and health is also highlighted by the Pacific Legal Foundation which has called our attention to (seatbelts please) the feds intent to list polar bears as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act.  This is beyond cynical, and again exposes the overall Agenda21 underbelly of progressive public policy initiatives.  The already protected polar bears are among the healthiest species in the world, now populating their ancestral habitats in numbers that are fivefold of what they were fifty years ago.

But the gratuitous listing of them as ‘threatened’ under the ESA will allow another tranche of land and water use regulations to kick in that will ratchet down more of the wilderness areas that are available for recreation and commercial use.  The broad spectrum stack & pack initiatives are visible under every bureaucratic rock that you care to turn over.  Meanwhile, the Left denies that any of this has been happening, but assures us that more of it needs to happen.

One of the more comedic moments at the Rood Center was when a member of the public held up maps that compared the contemplated frog and toad recovery habitats to the notorious A21 wildlands map that has been much debated for the last 20+ years.  The FWS folks had never seen or heard of it.  Again we saw Exhibit A that government is the employer of last resort.

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62 responses to “Reason and Rationality (updated)”

  1. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Well hey, if the figurine was an accurate depiction of me it would be inflated the whole time and without assistance from any objects.
    It is truly hilarious to me that MichaelA does his best best imitation of an intelligent person but can’t get his mind off of my privates. Too funny. Jealous it appears.
    Regarding the Wildlands Maps. MichaelA is totally ignorant and his gleaming of information to spread here is from a casual discussion with BLM cops is too funny. I always knew he didn’t know anything and he just proved it again.
    Regarding “monkey suits”, I would say regarding the pictures from Burning Man on the internet that MichaelA is in those suits. Burning Man is a gathering of perverts and exhibitionists and anyone attending that cannot be taken seriously. I’ll check Megan’s list to get educated.

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  2. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Todd you give new meaning to the phrase “shit for brains”.

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  3. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    So Todd throws his brains from inside the monkey cage?
    Fascinating!
    Todd, your art project was deflated vinyl at the end. Covered in dust. Like Dodge City: no electricity, water, or sewer services. Just a mangy bedroll, a coupla expired tokens from Hair of the Dog, and NoCall/NoShow notices at Thunderdome.
    Todd, you could have been a contender. Now…all for naught.
    Maybe this will help: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/09/photos-of-burning-man-2013/100584/

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  4. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Todd, your “privates” are the secret ingredient of my comedy soup. Delicious!
    Let’s talk about this: http://www.condenaststore.com/-sp/I-thought-Burning-Man-would-be-more-interesting-New-Yorker-Cartoon-Prints_i9082871_.htm

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  5. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    SteveF and MichaelA, you two girls are too funny. What a hoot!

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  6. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    Here is a little breakfast reading for Todd Juvinall who says there is ,” no mercury in the fish produced by the state.”
    http://www.auburnjournal.com/article/placer-county-which-fish-are-safe-eat

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  7. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    SteveF, you missed my correction apparently.

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Here is the link once again on the State’s Water Board ‘s findings on Mercury. Please SteveF, read it and ten tall us all what it means oh smarter than the average bear. What a hoot.
    http://westernminingalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Fact-Sheet-Summary-Contaminants-in-Sport-Fish-20111.pdf

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    Gentlemen – now that everyone has had a chance to show their mettle, let’s have mercy on the other readers and cease fire on the mud balls.

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  10. stevenfrisch Avatar
    stevenfrisch

    I’m sorry Todd, I did not miss it, I merely wanted to point to your propensity to make declarative statements then back off on them when you are proven wrong….time and time again.
    I think Gregory had it right many months ago when he pointed out that your lack on intellectual clarity is usually more damaging than helpful to your causes.
    I have read both the State Water Resources Control Board report on mercury in fish and the California Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment. You see I actually read most of this stuff because it is my business to do so, instead of pontificating from a purely ideological position.
    Oh and by that way, the link you provided above is not to the report, it is to a fact sheet, in short…the Cliff Notes. The OEHHA study is much more detailed and locally relevant.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George you are correct. We see the responses from the Frisch are full of ad hominems and curse words as your readers can make their judgements on him. I for one get a kick out of his childishness here. I am told by many people that I am of a superior intelligence to him and his ilk but in my humbleness I must be careful. The USA is in deep trouble because the Frisch ilk are in charge of the bureaucracy down to dog catcher and we can all see what a terrible job his and their policies have done to our once great country. Then he and the MA’s come to these places and prove to the readers their shortcomings.
    My link is a official summary of the mercury issue and still the Frisch debates as if he knows more than the Water Board. These findings prove the dredgers were not a problem but people like the Frisch could care less that 40,000 miners and all the ancillary people in stores and sporting goods are out of work. That alone shows his insincerity to the real issue of jobs and proves that rent seekers such as the Frisch cannot be believed.
    Rent seekers like the Frisch and the MA’s are why we will prevail in the battle of ideas and we don’t get paid for it. They are simply bureaucrats while we are free thinkers.

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