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George Rebane

Capitalism works best when corporations must woo their customers instead of government.

There is something in the liberal mindset that does not understand ‘choice’ when applied to individual responsibility.  In a recent comment stream one such reader stated –

Confused“Do people actually choose to be poor? How many poor people would refuse a million bucks if handed to them by their daddies? Do people choose to die young because they can’t afford proper healthcare? Do people choose to be hungry or watch their children starve? Do people choose to be homeless and sleep under a tarp in the snow? Do people choose to be miserable? I think not. “Individual choice” is corporate double speak for the freedom to pollute, sell us products that are unsafe, and use our children as cannon fodder to rid the world of leaders and economic systems not to their liking, all in the name of profit. Don’t you get that you are being conned?”

Since the apparent answer to such ‘choose’ questions is NO, then that is sufficient reason to 1) require those not so afflicted be forced to sustain the afflicted, and 2) that there is a mysterious yet substantial connection between the notion of ‘freedom to choose’ and a nefarious catalog of corporate misbehaviors.  Before going further, I want to emphasize that such a belief and its follow-on reasoning is a common thought pattern among our liberal brethren – the above commenter is not flying solo.

Astounding as it may be, it is clear that the liberal does not consider or understand the causal sequence of mediating events/states that is usually involved between a decision to do/be or not, and the resulting state of misfortune.  They see it as a one step process – you either chose to, say, “watch your children starve”, or it was visited upon you by fate.  And since no one would really choose misfortune, it had to be the result of spontaneous and pernicious fate, or worse, the inevitable outfall of capitalism, corporatism, Christianity, greedy enterprise, free markets, and other divers trappings of social injustice.


(Before anyone hyperventilates here, this dissertation does not include people afflicted with misfortunes that have nothing to do with choice – e.g. dreaded diseases, birth defects, ‘acts of God’ disasters/accidents, … .  Although one could argue that choice may also have been a precursor to accepting or being ignorant of attendant risks leading to such misfortunes.  And neither is this a prescription for what residual social services should the state provide.)

Today cultural norms handed down through family and private institutions have been replaced by millions of pages of government regulations restricting and redirecting behavior into what government considers ‘socially just’ channels.  These regulations are really diktats enforced with the state’s full authority and power.  Resistance summons deadly force.

For the last forty plus years the state has been in a campaign to create the homogenous and compliant Progressive Man by reducing/restricting the influence of family and culture on children.  The result has been the creation of two generations of Americans weaned to be fragile (see Taleb) members of society through an educational process that emphasizes self-esteem while minimizing performance and self-reliance – the youth are taught that it is not the individual but the collective that accomplishes everything of worth in society, “You didn’t build that!”

In such institutions critical thinking and planning are not in the curriculum because by implication those functions are handled for your benefit by the state.  On the individual level such pursuits are futile and best left to ‘professionals’ provided by the collective.

The result is that corrective feedback paths for the individual are never ‘installed’ and/or are prevented from developing.  The dominant watchword is that youth must be nurtured in an environment of uncompromising safety and security.   The child is then taught that adulthood really involves doing what you like best – ‘whatever floats your boat’ – with the expectation that the state will pick up your expenses at the margin in order to secure your dignified and fulfilling lifestyle.  There is no room for ‘if you choose to do this, then these things will most likely happen, and you will wind up in one of the following buckets of deep shit’.  Such counsel would be considered as ‘judgmental’ or one of the other politically incorrect interventions into a young life.

Instead, the teaching is that ‘if you follow your narcissistic desires, and wind up in deep shit, it was someone else’s fault, and the government is there to help you out – go forth, not to worry’.  Bottom line, since you didn’t explicitly choose the smelly bucket you find yourself in, you therefore are not responsible for falling into it or climbing out of it.  It’s OK to become a ward of the state.  And as we rediscover from collectivist commentary, if you reject this worldview then you have been conned by the evil corporatists.

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61 responses to “The Liberal Mind on Choices and Fortune”

  1. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Ben E. – I’m seeing what the problem is here.
    “Sorry I don’t save your comments from months ago or even reserve a space for them in the back of my memory.”
    If you either can’t (or can’t be bothered) to remember what I wrote, how will it be possible to have a conversation?
    You wrote – “…and we are regulated to the core at the street level with regulations that are put in place by big business.”
    And I asked you to name one single regulation put in place by big business.
    First you refused to and danced around with a lot of nonsense.
    Then you finally came up with 5 laws that were ‘put in place’ by the govt, not any businesses.
    Can you smoke marijuana?
    Can you drink alcohol and drive a car?
    Can you smoke in a restaurant or public space?
    Can you drive as fast as you want in your car?
    Can you have a 32 oz soft drink from a restaurant in New York City?
    And you changed your line to: “The links I gave gives examples of lead regulations, tobacco, environmental, and pharmaceuticals that benefit big business.”
    You are talking about 2 different things.
    This not a ‘gotcha’, it is a teachable moment. Businesses in a free market overseen by a govt that adheres to the dictates of the US Constitution have absolutely no power over you or me. In fact, we as free citizens have all of the power over the businesses. They may only obtain money from us when we decide they have produced for our benefit something of value. They can not put into place any laws or regulations that would apply to us in our daily lives, with the exception of rules regarding our conduct as patrons in a place of business. A business certainly has the right to bar people in a restaurant from smoking or require a certain level of attire. The govt at many levels passes all sorts of laws that are an anathema to big business. SS was a massive blow to life insurance and investment companies. The idea that big business ‘runs’ govt is only true to the extent that we, the voters let them. It seems that most polls show Americans think it was fine and dandy that the fed govt bailed out the UAW at GM and Chrysler with billions in losses to the tax payers.
    I haven’t seen any general outcry about the ongoing cronyism of tax dollars going into the pockets of Obama supporters who then give back generous amounts to Obama.
    The fed govt currently operates for itself, not businesses of any sort or you or me.
    It might pass a law that favors one business over another or not, depending on what the govt wants. Look at the current ‘gun control’ BS. What big business is being benefited here? It is the business of the biggest business of all. The fed govt. The govt is the one to fear and be kept in line. Private businesses have no power or control over me or you.
    It is the govt that ‘puts into place’ laws and regulations, not business. That is not just a way of playing with words and trying to be smart, it is an important distinction that needs to be ingrained into your soul. If you can not learn that fact, then you will always end up supporting the very people you say you are against.

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  2. George Rebane Avatar

    ScottO 227pm – Well said. And your highlight of “The fed govt currently operates for itself, not businesses of any sort or you or me.” is extremely important to remember. The leviathan currently employs well over 2M civilians (counting them is difficult as can be seen from here http://fcw.com/articles/2012/09/13/size-federal-workforce.aspx ). Most of these people are unsuitable for private sector employment, more of them are becoming so every day as technology advances. The federal government is truly a fiefdom of those who can’t or won’t, and it is the most powerful such fiefdom in the world. The problem for the rest of us is that these 2M people know that they cannot find any job outside of government that will maintain their quality of life. That is why they faithfully man their ramparts by voting for any politician and/or measure that keeps that fiefdom secure and growing. And that also explains why so many of today’s workers and young people are scrambling hard to become ‘civil servants’ – that is where they will get the most for the least. Unfortunately, no collectivist believes any of this.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory, George
    Let’s do a little comparative analysis on this see where it goes
    Denmark-Universal coverage for all
    USA-mllions not covered many are not insurable or underinsured
    Denmark
    less than 7% of GDP
    USA-
    17% of GDP
    So the Danes spend less on healthcare and insure everybody hmmm
    I’m using Denmark as an example. In reality there are better systems

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  4. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Scott,
    Big business has come to own both political parties then by default our government in both state and federal. By doing so they have created crony capitalism that is perpetuated by a fascist state. It is called capturing. They control the size of the government, the agencies, the regulations, the military, the legislation, and most important the message that pits average Americans against one another.
    What type of society or culture would we have if controlled by corporations, just look around. A declining middle class, exploding numbers into poverty, obesity epidemic, crumbling infrastructure, the largest income inequality gap in the developed world, 40,000 people dying a year due to lack of access to health care, a million people filing for bankruptcy due to medical bills and 3/4 of them having health insurance, higher education is putting people into the poor house, Monsanto’s controlling our food supply, and the list goes on and on.

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  5. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    To finish off the 5:56 statement.
    At the same time corporations have never seen higher profits and the wealthy have never had it so good in the USA.

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  6. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Ben – if the fed govt would adhere to the US Constitution, none of the cronyism would happen. Big business hardly ‘controls’ both parties and the fed govt. That is a gross exaggeration of reality. I have named instances that directly challenge your beliefs and can name many more. You have no answer for them. The many issues you raise have several roots and reasons. A lot are the fault of the individuals involved and no one else. Some love to have a single enemy in the Jews and the KKK loved to blame the ‘coloreds’ and the Catholics. It is symptomatic of narrow minded folk to want a single enemy to blame everything on. It bespeaks a lazy and frightened attitude that is unbecoming of a person such as yourself. I would ask you to broaden your horizons to actually investigate actual occurrences of these issues and really dig past boo hoo stories to find what choices folks had at various stages in their life and how they could have avoided the various problems. Corporations having higher profits in no way points to anything that they have done wrong. It seems that GM should have been so evil. Being upset about the differences in income is a tiresome and pointless pursuit. The POOR in this country have it so good it’s pathetic to even call them poor. They would be envied most other places in the world. The American middle class by and large decided they wanted everything now and put it on the credit card. When that ran out, they hocked the house. They put it all on red and it came up black. So shut up and go live in a crummy apartment and yes, you have to sell everything dead cheap. Everyone in this country has access to health care. Complaining about the fact that society just spent millions of dollars to save your sorry ass when you only will ever contribute a tiny amount of that yourself brings to mind ungrateful b****s that need a 2×4 put across their brow. Higher education does NOT put people in the poor house. Gullible idiots put themselves into the poor house. Monsanto “controls” our food supply? Hmmm… last week it was Archer Daniels Midland. Tell me – do they trade off from week to week?
    Please let us all know how you get around this terrible situation concerning your personal eating habits. I have posted here repeatedly about large companies that work to subvert our civil rights and work to corrupt govt. The only groups working to end that are the Tea Party and the conservatives. Maybe a few Libertarians, but most of them just went to CO and got stoned. The Greens are so solidly in bed with big business and bigger govt it isn’t funny. The Dems are nearly all total prostitutes. The Lamestream News media is a joke. All they want is a night in the Lincoln Bedroom and to kiss Obama’s ring. There are some decent R’s left and the younger conservatives in the party are showing some signs of hope. But I think the electorate in general in this country hew to the “I’m owed some stuff” line of thinking with a big dollop of “I’m a victim” thrown in. So, I’m afraid we are in for a bigger and more corrupt govt in the future. And yes, some large companies will get in on the goodies. But that hardly constitutes them ‘controlling’ the govt.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 436pm – Gee, it’s as if I never commented at 1156am and 146pm.
    BenE 556pm – These numbers paint a terrible picture. Where ever did you get them?

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  8. Biull Tozer Avatar
    Biull Tozer

    Instead of fixating on how much money your neighbor has, why not focus on lifting your other neighbors out of poverty. Our wretched welfare system keeps a person in everlasting poverty and our education system dooms our future children to a life of mediocrity. Our social programs guarantee our fellow man will live in darkness and want. So many trillions in spending has been an utter failure. Now the spokespersons for all these programs not only say we do not have a spending problems, some now claim we do not have a debt problem.
    Our debt will be 20 trillion when Obama leaves office. Does anyone with a liberal brain really think this will not be a nearly insurmountable burden that will keep our fellow citizens and future generations enslaved by this juggernaut?
    Kinda hard to discuss a starting point when there is no spending problem, no debt problem, and they keeping doing what they have been doing since the Great Society and they keep getting what they have been getting….which is not a problem. Nothing to see here.
    Ah, never mind. They never had one, they never will.

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  9. Gregory Avatar

    Paul 4:36
    First and foremost, I’ve no doubt the Danish model can’t work in the US because Americans aren’t Danes. If you’ve known many you probably know what I’m speaking of. In short, conforming, competent, judgmental. Not very American, and outside of the competence issue, I’m good with that.
    Second, the major problems we have with healthcare costs are that INDIVIDUALS really can’t buy “insurance”. Only companies can buy insurance with before tax dollars, so you have the basic inefficiency of Company A choosing Insurer B on behalf of Drone C, rather than Person C shopping for what they want. If an independent Person D shops for insurance, they pay a premium in that they have to pay with after tax dollars and the market is tiny and only available if you can prove to the insurer you probably won’t get sick.
    And when you get healthcare, no one can tell you what it will cost until long after you get it.
    If I could wave my magic wand, all healthcare would be paid with before tax dollars, decoupling it from employers, and any preexisting condition that was diagnosed while insured would not be considered a disqualifying preexisting condition for the purposes of denying insurance coverage for related conditions. And insurers could sell across state lines.

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  10. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    Ben,
    Please provide a link and or evidence that Monsanto controls our food supply. I am willing to look at the evidence you provide.

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  11. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Mike,
    It is hard to find a major “news” outlet to cover it so my links are going to be food coalitions, progressive, and generally left leaning in most cases. That being said it doesn’t mean the statements and numbers aren’t true. The other thing is we have to be able to connect dots and see where this will lead to that.
    I encourage you to read the first link in its entirety.
    Monsanto controls over 90% of the Soybean and 80% of corn production in the US. Corn and Soy
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500395_162-5978152.html
    Corn and Soy make up much of our diets through processed foods
    http://articles.cnn.com/2007-09-22/health/kd.gupta.column_1_high-fructose-corn-syrup-corn-refiners-association-soybean-oil?_s=PM:HEALTH
    Monsanto connected to 200,000 suicides in India due to seed control
    http://www.naturalnews.com/030913_Monsanto_suicides.html
    Monsanto controls patents on GMO and has standing in a court of law to go after anyone who has their GMO seed, even it is unintentional.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto_Canada_Inc._v._Schmeiser
    Monsanto Rider going through congress at the moment
    http://www.carolinafarmstewards.org/action-alert-tell-congress-to-dump-the-monsanto-rider-march-13-2013/
    Meet Monsanto’s number one lobbyist: Barack Obama
    http://www.naturalnews.com/037310_barack_obama_monsanto_lobbyist.html

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