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George Rebane

The prestigious national newspaper Investor’s Business Daily has now picked up the alarm about the feds’ enormous ammo and gun buys.  (RR readers were made aware of these developments months ago.)  All of the weaponry is designated for in-country use in the US, and amounts involved are enough to support the Iraq war use rate (5.5M rounds per month) to continue that level of combat for 24 years.  (H/T to reader)

MIT mavens in artificial intelligence acknowledge that AI (robots) will permanently kill jobs while increasing the nation’s productivity as they replace humans.  This has been a longstanding area of interest on RR (see Singularity Signposts) for the last several years, recently culminating in a series on the economic impact of productivity growth on unemployment given the government imposed slow growth that is planned for the remainder of this decade.  It is also heartening for me to finally hear corroboration of the thesis that such intelligent machines “could create more inequality.”  The message here has been ‘bet on it’ (here and here).

This should not be a matter of joy to anyone.  Those who can design and work with such machines will prosper, and prosper magnificently.  Those who have to compete with them will suffer the fate of ‘John Henry, the Steel Drivin’ Man’.  Congress is still in denial about this future, but it is good to at least see academics of the technical stripe pick up on this and start making public statements (example here).
 

Obamacare is now an identified and almost universally recognized albatrsos hung around the nation’s neck.  As more and more of it comes to light and is implemented, the disastrous numbers continue to roll in about its impact on America’s healthcare and overall economy.  One thing is certain, EVERY benefit that this new Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, starting with its cynical name, has turned out to be a bald-faced lie.  Nothing salutary of it remains except the cries of a few true believers in his second coming, and, of course, all those legions of new government workers hired to bilk their fellow citizens.

Recently even the quantitative comparisons with many European socialized healthcare systems have been cast in doubt with the revelation that it takes an extra envelope stuffed with cash passed under the table to a physician or administrator to be approved for a procedure, moved up in the que, or actually have the service performed.  These bribes are called “informal payments’ and have been the norm for decades in underfunded nationalized health systems with poorly paid workers.  As such national healthcare systems start suffering cutbacks, this practice is also spreading to the richer countries.  In any case, it’s hard to compare costs in the face of such dealings.  One is reminded of attempting to equate unemployment rates between nations practicing various levels of socialism and/or communism.  About the future of Obamacare no one should be surprised.

[update]  Burnished bullshit.  That is about the best that can be said for the YubaNet reported study by Glantz and Grana of UCSF.  The connection between the Tea Party and the tobacco industry and/or "tobacco interests" is utter nonsense and no more intimate than the celebrated fact that literally any two people on earth can be joined by no more than 'six degrees of separation' or six links on the grand sociogram of the world.  Here's their strong point from YubaNet's breathless report –

"From previously secret tobacco industry
documents available at the UCSF Legacy Tobacco Documents Library, IRS
filings and other publicly available documents, the study authors traced
a decades-long chain of personal, corporate and financial relationships
between tobacco companies, tobacco industry lobbying and public
relations firms and nonprofit organizations associated with the Tea
Party."

Study authors Glantz and Grana are cheap-shot demogauges of the worst kind – i.e. they generate their politically motivated progressive pap on taxpayer dollars.  The connection from which they weave their egregious relationship (conspiracy?) is that the nation's tea parties have, of course, used the imagery that has come to represent the historical occasion in Boston harbor.  That imagery was apparently also used by 'tobacco interests' in promoting their industry.  And that is the thread these liberal 'scholars' use to sew together today's tea partiers and the evil tobacco industry.

That leftwing blogs like YubaNet gleefully publish and give full credence to such studies points clearly to the other layer of manure that the lamestream and liberal echo chambers have been coating the countryside with – the tea parties are history, pay no attention to the little burble they caused in 2010, everything is back under control.

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80 responses to “Ruminations – 9feb13 (updated)”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gee Walt
    I was just comparing so called wasted taxpayers money just for yucks. Just to reinforce he record I didn’t vote for “O” this time around. Did you vote for Romney?

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  2. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    What I find really fascinating here is that try as they might the forces of science denial represented on this page have serially failed to actually answer the key claim: That the very same ‘think tanks’, lobbyists, private foundations, and people who are currently part of the climate denial movement were often previously members of the effort to avoid the consequences of anti-tobacco laws and tobacco litigation.
    This really points out to me what the real agenda here is. In the face of a stark choice between respect for human life and individual and corporate profit, the posters here prefer profit. Now they are going to deny that until they are blue in the face as well. But the truth is posters here are more worried about the cost of a gallon of gas or a kilowatt hour of electricity than the human cost, and socialized social cost, of the negative health consequences of their decisions. The reason for that is quite clear to me. They don’t give a shit what happens to the next generation, they have health insurance to cover their costs, and they are serial resisters of change.

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  3. Russ Steele Avatar

    Steven,
    Just what might these “human cost, and socialized social cost, of the negative health consequences” be, that we a putting on our children and grandchildren? I am much more worried about the debt we are running up that they will have to pay. We are stealing their future, with our foolish spending.

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  4. Gregory Avatar

    It’s amazing what a rent-seeking PoliSci fanatic can spin from one guy with a career in working rightwing groups.
    No Steven, the “deniers” keep at it because the evidence is that the planet is in no danger of a catastrophic warming from anthropogenic CO2, and the so-called “consensus” was fabricated and enforced by just the sort of character assassination you’ve again indulged in.
    Clouds and aerosols, and how the computer models simplified what little was known about them in order to make the simulations possible, were always the weak point of the IPCC brand science, and that chicken has come home to roost. None of them are following the Reality that the forecast warming isn’t happening, and even the draft AR5 has a graph showing current measured temps below all the simulations of AR4… sans error bars, to be determined later. The bigger the better.
    It’s perhaps instructive to note that after 34 years of warming measured by satellite (since ’79), current worldwide sea ice is almost exactly at it’s average for the date over that 34 years.
    The bright side, Steve, is that the Sierra Business Council is probably in the best state to milk the issue for the longest possible time, but it will end here, too.

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  5. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George,
    We all know that our government is owned by those who have accumulated huge sums of wealth and power. For this reason the best answers for the most people will always be ignored because power never relinquishes it without a knock down drag out fight and unfortunately their political party, the least worst party*, that controls our federal and state governments has successfully divided the country where we are incapable of uniting to take on such a fight.
    * Least Worst Party- The Democratic and Republican Parties. Both when given a chance to govern in the peoples interest fails miserably so the other party is given another chance at being the majority. The are opposite sides of the same coin, representatives of the corporatist/ fascist/ oligarch/ aristocrat/ plutocrat or what ever we want to call it.

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  6. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    This is nothing really new, but our Lefties refuse to see the error of their ways, so here is a little reminder of the down side of their beloved solar panels. They are not as “green” as they would like us to believe.
    Now if a MINE put out anywhere near the toxins of solar panels there would
    be more outrage than we ever saw with IMM.
    The Associated Press relates:
    “Solyndra…reported producing about 12.5 million pounds of hazardous waste, much of it carcinogenic cadmium-contaminated water, which was sent to waste facilities from 2007 through mid-2011.
    Before the company went bankrupt, leading to increased scrutiny of the solar industry and political fallout for President Barack Obama’s administration, Solyndra said it created 100 megawatts-worth of solar panels, enough to power 100,000 homes.
    The records also show several other Silicon Valley solar facilities created millions of pounds of toxic waste without selling a single solar panel, while they were developing their technology or fine-tuning their production.”
    “The state records show the 17 companies, which had 44 manufacturing facilities in California, produced 46.5 million pounds of sludge and contaminated water from 2007 through the first half of 2011. Roughly 97 percent of it was taken to hazardous waste facilities throughout the state, but more than 1.4 million pounds were transported to nine other states: Arkansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Rhode Island, Nevada, Washington, Utah, New Mexico and Arizona.
    Several solar energy experts said they have not calculated the industry’s total waste and were surprised at what the records showed.”
    So tell us again just how “clean”,,, solar really is.And look at all the tax dollars that wizzed away for nothing.

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  7. Gregory Avatar

    Walt, you forget, the new Green Economy in California was going to put us in the forefront in the new century. A new energy source that would make us independent from the Middle East and all those horrible wars that Texas Oilmen had gotten us into.
    It will take some time for the Frischs of the world to come to grips with the apparent fact that that will be the new oil shale finds…
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news/economy/california-oil-boom/index.html

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  8. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Your so right Gregory,,,, How silly of me to forget all about that.
    Please remind me of how great that worked out.
    As for the Ca. oil shale I believe I mentioned that a few days ago,
    and the only response I got from Frish and friends was crickets.
    Nope,, they hate news like that. But then again this is Ca.,,
    and you can bet your bottom dollar that the ECO gang will fight
    to the last bong hit to keep that oil right where it is.
    And because they can sue in the name of critters, WE get to pay
    for their fight. Not one dime will come out of ECO pockets.
    I will wait and see how they respond to the toxic crap produced
    by solar production (that’s some serious tonnage) in comparison to local mining, let alone the whole damned state.

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  9. Ken Jones Avatar
    Ken Jones

    Facts Walt omitted from the article:
    While solar is a far less polluting energy source than coal or natural gas, many panel makers are nevertheless grappling with a hazardous waste problem.
    The roughly 20-year life of a solar panel still makes it some of the cleanest energy technology currently available. Producing solar is still significantly cleaner than fossil fuels. Energy derived from natural gas and coal-fired power plants, for example, creates more than 10 times more hazardous waste than the same energy created by a solar panel, according to Mulvaney.
    The U.S. solar industry said it is reporting its waste, and sending it to approved storage facilities — thus keeping it out of the nation’s air and water. A coal-fired power plant, in contrast, sends mercury, cadmium and other toxins directly into the air, which pollutes water and land around the facility.
    Many businesses generate hazardous wastes as part of the manufacturing process. No one ever said solar panels were free of any potential wastes. But leave it to Walt to demean anything that is considered green. Walt still hates the Prius.

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  10. Gregory Avatar

    KJ, the Prius is a Rube Goldberg model of complexity and exotic materials that is very expensive to repair after some lefty goober driving a red Volvo smashes it. The lifetime energy costs of a Toyota Yaris (basically, a Corolla without the late middle age weight gain) put it to shame.
    Solar electric energy would not be happening in California without huge direct and indirect subsidies, and would collapse without all the carrots and sticks being used to encourage their use. Outgoing (gone?) Energy Sec’y Chu correctly stated they need to improve by a factor of 6 before they’re competitive, and that was before natural gas prices had been driven down by an abundant supply.

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  11. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Good Lord KJ…. Ya’ think all that hazardous material is actually worth it?
    You have ANY idea of how expensive that is to deal with? I used to work in that field! But funny you drove right past the IMM part of my comment. It’s fine and dandy for a not so “green” business to generate haz waste by the train load, but a hole in the ground that generates the same material as any gravel pit above the surface,, people would think the world was coming to and end the way our local idiots raised hell. ( Like Mr. “toxic tile” loved to howl.)
    The crap produced by your “green” stepchild is FAR worse than the cyanide system IMM would have used.
    So ya’ still like the Prius? Have at it. I’m not the one that will need to buy the batt. for that boat anchor. And Lithium batts. are far from being “clean” either.
    I got a study question for ya’.. Just how much is the REAL cost to make a Chevy Volt? ( not the sticker price) Please include all subsidized, third party parts manufactures as well. So just how much is the American taxpayer stuck with so you don’t have a bigger, self imposed guilt trip?

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  12. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    One more thing to think about since you decided to sing the praises of toxic sludge being a profitable business,, Just who eats the cost of disposal?
    Like I said. That stuff ain’t cheap to get rid of. It’s not much of a trade off
    if you ask me. And just what is your stance on Yucca Mountain? That was to be a hazardous waste site too. Or is some nasty crap just politically better than others? No matter what,,, both dump sites will be dead zones for eternity.

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  13. Ken Jones Avatar
    Ken Jones

    Walt you have no idea of what you are speaking about. The reporting is required under SARA 313 TIR. Do us all a favor and look at the reports, who files and the threshold levels that trigger the reports. Industry produces hazardous wastes in the process of manufacturing. Do you even have a clue of what constitutes a hazardous waste?
    You didn’t address the points about how solar energy is cleaner then coal or natural gas either. Mines do generate hazardous wastes as well Walt. But when you are so blinded by your ideology against our environment then common sense becomes uncommon. I would also suggest you research subsidies to the coal, gas and oil industries. The amount of money for solar is like a grain of sand on the beach when compared to oil, gas and coal.

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  14. Paul Emery Avatar

    Well spoken Ben | 11 February 2013 at 10:14 AM
    “Least Worst Party- The Democratic and Republican Parties. Both when given a chance to govern in the peoples interest fails miserably so the other party is given another chance at being the majority. The are opposite sides of the same coin, representatives of the corporatist/ fascist/ oligarch/ aristocrat/ plutocrat or what ever we want to call it. ”
    The ultimate joke about most of these discussions is how party partisan it is. We had eight years of Bush and look what we got. We’ll have eight years of Obama with predictable results. Why not just throw the whole lot out ? It would only take one election cycle and the House could be independent. Just imagine if 90% of the votes went to third parties-any party. That would be a festival of change and great fun and imagine the squealing from the pig sty of those who think they have control. That’s all it would take. One cycle plus well targeted consumer strikes.

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  15. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Nice deflection away from the subject at hand. ” Well,,,, uh,,, just about everyone generates waste,,,”. So that makes the crap generated by solar manufacturing “acceptable”, because you happen to like it. ( and heavily subsidized )
    And just for the sake of argument I will use IMM as an example.
    The eco gang pretty much demanded “zero emissions” out of them.
    And all done by private money.
    Now some other eco kooks get some funding to mess with two more mines
    that are about to get going. Those snuck under the anti mine activists radar.
    There not a whole lot of waste generated there,, What?? used motor oil??
    But solar toxins are SO much better. A little hypocritical,, don’t ya’ thunk?

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt
    You made no effort to verify you sources for your blather so why should anyone pay attention to you? Solar jobs by illegal immigrants-remember?

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  17. Gerry Fedor Avatar
    Gerry Fedor

    I have to wonder if the Tea Party and CABPRO parties in Nevada county are nothing more than social organizations?
    Do they support “accurate causes” that by definition follow their principles?
    Anyone know the answer?

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  18. Ken Jones Avatar
    Ken Jones

    Walt my discussion was pointing out that business do generate hazardous wastes. Furniture, electronics, auto,mining and many industries. The issue isn’t accepting one industries waste stream over the other. My issue was simply how you only posted what you see as negative omitting the other information.
    I would challenge yuu first to tell me what a toxic waste is before you imply that supporters of solar power believe waste streams are “better” than any other industry.
    Mines produce many types of RCRA wastes. Some of the potential wastes streams come from the use of both acids and bases.

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    GerryF 458am – As a member of both CABPRO and the local tea party, I can tell you that both are definitely not “social organizations” – they would fail on too many counts for such an appellation. And however much I’d like to answer your second question, I can’t because I don’t know what an “accurate cause” is, and how such or any cause “follows principles”, especially “by definition”. Could please expand and/or rephrase?

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  20. Brad Croul Avatar
    Brad Croul

    Small arms ammo production is up significantly since Bush took office (post 911).
    http://www.almc.army.mil/alog/issues/SepOct10/spectrum_smallarms_ammo.html
    Possibly due to increase wartime (permawar) ammo requirements, local municipalities had to wait in line for ammo needed for practice and qualification training requirement and were forced to dip into ammo reserves. Seems logical that they would want to replenish supplies.
    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/17/204959.shtml
    But, right on queue, the right sees spooks in every shadow.

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    BradC 921am – as a gun owner and enthusiast I can report to you that until Obama, ammunition, especially of the 9mm and 40cal kind, was manifestly abundant throughout the Bush years. There were no shortages of any kind for civilians even though the government was always first in line buying all they wanted. Your reports appear to be liberal red herrings.
    And you are correct about being right on cue (I believe that’s the word you sought), we on the right correctly see government as did our Founders – intrinsically inept and corrupt, with every tendency toward autocracy and evil, lest it be monitored constantly with a generous modicum of distrust by a populace having recourse.

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  22. Paul Emery Avatar

    George. Please explain the threshold for the “populace” to have recourse. Would that threshold be managed by a central authority or would it be neighborhood by neighborhood or up to the individual (McVeith). How is it determined to be a legitimate Second Amendment option or what was determined to be an insurrection such as Kent State? So many questions.

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  23. Paul Emery Avatar

    Also who does the “monitoring” individuals or organizations and what determines a call to arms and how is that managed and by whom?

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  24. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE 1137am ff – All good questions which I believe you have asked and I have answered before. What you are seeking is a nice tidy ‘Handbook on How to Start an Insurrection’. While I’m sure that these must exist (especially written by leftwing revolutionaries), from what I’ve heard, they all require some purposive organization to be the catalyst to marshal some compliant cohort of the ‘populace’ to get things going. I’m not aware of any such organization waiting in the wings to incite insurrection (are you?).
    Absent such a formal start, I think that any resistance that might arise will be totally spontaneous and totally unpredictable. The event is best explained in systems science in the field of ‘self-criticality of complex systems’ which has a lot of math connected with it. Think of building a sand pile by dropping individual grains on it. It is impossible to predict when the last grain dropped will cause an avalanche down one side of the pile, or where the avalanche will occur, or how big it will be.
    So like the insurrection in Syria, no one knew when or where it would start, how and in what manner it would sustain itself, etc until things were pretty far along. In short, such insurrections start in an unconnected distributive manner here and there. It is after these independent groups communicate with each other, and know of their individual successes, that there is a tendency to organize and unite. But all this is unpredictable (that’s why autocratic governments try to cut/control all lines of communication as quickly as possible).
    But again, to me your question reveals your inherent worldview that things don’t start or move unless there is a central authority that initiates and directs. Fortunately our universe is not built that way; it functions quite well with widely distributed knowledge and control that is also spontaneous and therefore completely stochastic in nature. It is when central control is imposed that things start to get fragile – look at the development of the monolith coming into place that is Obamacare.

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  25. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, your line of inquiry is hilarious, and I’ve a suspicion the humor is unintentional.
    I think it would be a lot like the former problem of defining “pornography” back when it was illegal. SCOTUS Justice Potter Stewart wrote that it was hard to define, but that he knew it when he saw it.
    So far in my lifetime, we have the Weather Underground and the call to arms by Tim McVeigh, and I’d expect there were others that have slipped my mind. I don’t think anyone of substance saw justifications for either.
    At the Democratic Convention in ’68, there was what has been termed a “police riot” by sober investigators. Now, that obviously wasn’t a ‘2nd’ trigger event, but imagine a “police” and “National Guard” riot over a large area, or a law enforcement retreat and civilian rioters ala Los Angeles that lasts weeks, and you might know it if you see it.

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  26. Gregory Avatar

    George, I tend to agree especially with your 3rd and 4th paragraphs of 1:11PM. I think Paul is trying to figure out how the Tea Party could “go 2nd”, and the short answer is that it won’t.
    As I write, a recently celebrated (by some) Obama supporter and gun control advocate is apparently playing out his endgame near Big Bear.

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  27. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Gregory,
    Do you have links to prove that Dorner was an Obama supporter and gun control advocate? Your comment is the first I’d heard of this, and I thought I had watched and read about this case fairly closely. Thanks.
    Michael A.

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  28. n Avatar
    n

    Do you have links to prove that Dorner was an Obama supporter and gun control advocate?
    http://boywithgrenade.org/2013/02/07/christopher-dorners-manifesto/

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  29. Ken Jones Avatar
    Ken Jones

    Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he didn’t vote in the 2012 election as the candidate he supported, John Huntsman, was out the race.

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  30. Gregory Avatar

    “Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008.”
    Sure sounds like a supporter to me, even if he didn’t bother to vote in 2012.
    And on gun control,
    “[G]ive Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card…. Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit”

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