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Smokey the Bear's rules for fire safety – keep it small, keep it in a confined area, and keep an eye on it – apply doubly so to government.

George Rebane

Here’s a 12 minute video taken by Houston’s KTRK news helicopter of a military drill involving what looks like Army H500 helicopters armed with machine guns participating in an exercise that involved some actual firing that got local people excited.  KTRK reports –

SkyEye 13 HD was over the south side where at first look, it appears there's a massive SWAT scene happening.   People have been calling police, as well as our newsroom, saying they're hearing gunshots in the area of Scott and Airport. It turns out, the Army says, it's a multi-agency training drill. They're doing it at the old Carnegie High School.  Helicopters were also involved. The Army isn't giving any details of what the training is about.   So if you see the helicopters or hear gunfire, it's only a drill.

It looks like the next kid planning to shoot up a school will have to contend with some real counter fire if he keeps at it long enough to give time for the helicopter gunships to get there.  Each can also carry about four armed infantrymen.  But there’s nothing to worry about, it’s only a drill against gun toting nut jobs, Islamist terrorists, or whoever else needs to feel the full force of government response in peace or war.

Now many of you may say, Houston was just a one-off, a special training exercise unique to the area or some other bullshit like that.  OK, so then what are they doing over Miami at night as reported in this WSVN newscast by a very compliant 'journalist' who isn't surprised that none of this was announced beforehand?

Some paranoids might think that these helicopters actually belong to the Dept of Education SWAT teams in its newly armed capability to collect delinquent student loans – their existing riot guns for that function may not be enough.  But then you know how desperate those student loan deadbeats can get.

Now consider if these unannounced 'drills' become so common place that the population at large comes to take little notice, and actually takes comfort in that the government is training to protect us all real good.  Would we ever know if someone or group was really apprehended during one of these 'drills'?  Would we ever take special notice after becoming sanguine about machine gun fire from low flying helicopters overhead?

In any case, practice makes perfect.  And as the good folks at KTRK and WSVN tell us “it’s only a drill.” (H/T to RR reader and correspondent.)

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134 responses to “Black Helicopters over South Houston and Miami”

  1. Brad Croul Avatar
    Brad Croul

    Top Five Reasons the Black Helicopters are flying over Texas and Florida,
    5.  Jeb and George are preparing to intimidate voters going to the poles during the next election.
    4. Preparations for the next wave of Cuban and Mexican immigrants.
    3. Training drills for possible gun show rebellions when Bubba and Gator find out they have to submit to a background check, anal probe, or some other indignation the libs have cooked up.
    2.  Preparing for an uprising if Florida and Texas announce a plan to collect taxes on income.
    And, the number one reason the Black Helicopters are flying,
    1. Obama just doesn’t trust Southerners.

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  2. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    “intimidate voters going to the poles”
    As in pole dancing?

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  3. Brad Croul Avatar
    Brad Croul

    No, North and South Poles.
    Polls…
    Thanks!

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  4. Joe Koyote Avatar
    Joe Koyote

    One reason why some government regulation is needed and perhaps why the poles are melting: On a scale of 1-500, the air pollution in Bejing was 758 the other day, prompting the government to urge people to stay indoors. Is foul air a fair trade for economic success?

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  5. Walt Avatar

    On that note Joe, maybe all our ” earth first(ers)” need to move to China and set up shop.
    That’s where the dirty air really is. Have at it.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Paul…,,, In the words of Hilary. “Just what the Hell difference does it make?!”
    Come on ya’ old hippy,, your gripe is a decade too late. ( but GITOMO is still open, Terrorists have yet to see a court room, and we are still waiting for the first shipment of that “free oil”.)

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    Oh yes oil Walt. The oil that Rumsfeld said was going to pay for the war. Two trillion dollars later we are still paying for it. That’s why this is still a contemporary issue.
    ” The bulk of the funds for Iraq’s reconstruction will come from Iraqis,” explained Rumsfeld, who was accompanied at the briefing by Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    Iraqis will pay for the rebuilding of their country, the defense secretary noted, through oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investments and contributions from the international community. ”
    http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=28388

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  8. Walt Avatar

    LOL Paul,, As usual we got stiffed by the Middle East. As I remember it was the anti war, anti oil Left that pissed and moaned about it. ( “war for oil” BS)
    Leftys were all behind “the forgiveness of debt” by Middle East countries.
    At this point your better off trying to rewrite history to make Lincoln
    a registered Democrat. Some city bred LIBS will actually believe that.
    Now that the news about Sen.Perv Menendez is getting the attention it deserves,
    care to spout off why he should still be sitting in the chair on the Senate floor, instead of occupying a jail cell. If it was you or me, that’s just where we would be. But NOOOooo. Since he’s a Progressive in good standing, he has had a pass all this time. The news of this is FAR from old. It got swept under the rug. Now the day of reckoning is here.
    But I’m sure good Libs like yourself will start the ball rolling and protect him at all costs, and attack the ones that broke the story.
    That is just the start of the domino chain. The economy is about to implode with the monetary monkey business.
    Obummercaretax is running up the cost of ANY heath care,( So much for bringing the cost down.) The poor unions that helped push the BS Bill, are now feeling the bite since their waver has expired.( They think that waver was permanent??)
    Now they want another. ( then where is mine?)
    Everything LIB is coming down around your ears, as Conservatives ( like myself) predicted.
    We see jobs are far from front and center which “O” stumped on.
    HELL! Everything “O” used to buy votes is on the back burner.
    That ” jobs council” he put together, and NEVER listened too in the first place, has been fired. and disbanded.
    Sorry my pony tailed friend, it time to get back to current events, instead of
    trying to live in the past about the Gulf war. But just one more thing about the Gulf. That part of the world has gone to crap since “O” took office.
    “O” sure did a GREAT job with Egypt. ” We don’t need to worry about the Muslim Bro hood. they have no control or power”. And just how did that work out?
    They Guy “O” helped into power there sure isn’t a friend of ours. And now we are sending them tanks (M1A2)and F16s. Such a smart move… Don’t ya’ think?

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  9. Walt Avatar

    Damn.. I must be getting old. I forgot all about those WMD’s
    that we supposedly couldn’t find. They went to Syria. Convoy after convoy.
    that was before our military was allowed to do a damned thing.
    And no nuke material in Iraq at the time? Your wrong on that too.
    My renter was there doing the ” clean up”, and now is just about dead
    from cancers that can ONLY be caused by nuke material.( not classified info)
    I will believe HIM over you any day of the week.
    What else I have heard will remain untold. A family member’s clearance level
    is going up. ( there is PLENTY I would love to cram down a LIBS throat. But I must leave it at that.)

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  10. JesusBetterman Avatar

    We never used depleted uranium in Iraq, now did we, Walt, and the dust from those could never have affected him, even if we did, right?
    I been doing some looking, and you know it is funny, I’ve never been able to find real news stories of an intruder being shotup by an AR-15? You’d think it would make front page news, especially if the homeowner pumped 30 rounds into him.

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  11. JesusBetterman Avatar

    If it takes you 30 rounds to take out a couple of intruders, you probably can’t shot straight, and are more of a danger to your neighbors than the burglars.

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  12. Gregory Avatar

    Walt, while Iraq was very definitely shopping for uranium in Niger, there was no evidence that they had it yet, and the Bush state of the union address was literally correct: British intelligence believed the above.
    Hell Hath Frozen Over, Keachie made a point at 4PM. at least in the first sentence. Beat me to the post by moments…
    Battlefield exposure to radioactive material is something that ain’t getting talked about much, as US anti tank rounds contain depleted uranium because of its very high mass make them more penetrating. Your renter’s illness might be related to those.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Gulf_War_syndrome_and_soldier_complaints

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, if five armed druggies showed up at your place thinking you had forty or fifty kilos ready to go, how many rounds would you want to have handy?

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  14. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Novel! Keachie and Greg, typing at the same time, unaware of the other, agree!
    BTW Walt, glad you admit that radioactive particles can be dangerous. The amount of radiation they emit is far less than background radiation, but, because they lodge in one spot, radioactive particles hammer the same nearby cells over and over again, until they are weakened and become cancerous. John Goffman did the original studies for the AEC, and found what the AEC didn’t want to know. They shut him down, had him take all his data papers home, and then his garage “mysteriously” caught fire.
    BTW, Europe has the same games we have, yet we have 62 mass shooting over the last 30 years, and Europe’s had one.

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  15. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Added one too many “f’s” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gofman He heard this first hand, in his livingroom, as my ex father in law (first wife) was one of his good friends.

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  16. JesusBetterman Avatar

    “I heard this first hand.”
    I’m disappearing down the canyon if I see overwhelming force. They’ll kill themselves if they follow. But once again, where, other than on a pot farm, do you find AR-15 vs AR-15? One bank robbery in LA, where else?

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    Re JesusB 400pm – people familiar with firearms, especially those who would own the AR type semi-autos, would not consider the AR to be the ready weapon to repel intruders inside a house. They would either have a handgun or a 12-gauge shotgun (preferably a pump with a minimum 20″ barrel) for such purposes.
    re his 428pm – relevance to gun control issue?

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  18. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Well I gues that blows the “need” issue for AR-15, or reduces it to just going up against the M16’s of the rogue government.

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  19. Gregory Avatar

    “BTW, Europe has the same games we have, yet we have 62 mass shooting over the last 30 years, and Europe’s had one.”
    Tell that to the Serbs, Croats and Bosnians.
    If the 2nd Amendment was treated like derived abortion rights and Obamacare, the Feds would be forcing people to accept their Obama “Personal Defense Weapon” with 30 round magazines unless you could prove you were a felon or mentally ill.

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  20. Walt Avatar

    The AR10 is a long range shooter. If I think something (or someone) is coming
    to do harm, I can hold them off from a distance. If they get by that, and close range is the next option, a Desert Eagle .357 is next up to bat. ( ranged for 50 yards) Then the shotgun bats clean up. Mine is set up with the first shell being bird shot, and it works it’s way down to a slug.(or two)
    With your C.S.S. ,, may I suggest just a coach gun Doug? That’s about all the time you would have. Since your a LIB and demand those low capacity weapons, practice what ya’ preach.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt
    Don’t preach to me about Obama’s next four years. I didn’t vote for him
    Can you show me documentation about the WMD’s going to Syria? I suspect it’s just a figment of your imagination because no one has been able to prove it. You do have a tenancy to make things up to fit your pro Republican slant.
    As long as we’re paying for the war in Iraq it is a contemporary issue. Your hero Bush 2 passed a couple of trillion on to future generations along with 5000 dead Americans and thousands of injured veterans. All that for what? As long as they are alive responsibility for this will be an open question. You can’t sweep it away as history as much as you like. Even Rumsfelt admitted there were no WMD’s and that they were the main reason for the war.
    “If the Bush administration had known there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, it probably wouldn’t have decided to invade in 2003, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an interview broadcast Sunday.
    Speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union” program, Rumsfeld noted there were multiple reasons for attacking Iraq and ousting Saddam Hussein from power.
    However, intelligence reports — now shown to have been false — that Iraq possessed WMDs were the main reason for going in, Rumsfeld said.
    “No question it was the big one,” he said. Asked if the United States would not have invaded if the administration hadn’t believed Iraq had the weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said: “I think that’s probably right.”
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-20/politics/rumsfeld.interview_1_defense-secretary-donald-rumsfeld-obama-administration-curveball?_s=PM:POLITICS

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  22. Walt Avatar

    Contrary to popular belief Yellow cake was found in Iraq.
    So was some chemical weapons, ( in various forms and stages)
    There was a reason for the “non disclosure”, and it outweighed
    political “brownie points”.
    There were many terrorist attempts that were NEVER reported as well.
    There was a lot going on that we will NEVER hear about. But since
    we didn’t ( and probably wont) hear about it from the press, it didn’t happen
    in your minds. There is crap that went on back in WWII that’s still “top secret”
    and matters of national security. Same for Korea, and Vietnam. ALL still “classified”.
    And you don’t think the same game of hide the goods didn’t happen with the Gulf war? There is PLENTY we don’t know. But just because “the press says so” is far from fact and reality.
    There are things that happened and saw, when I was in the service I still can’t disclose today.
    Nope,, we don’t know the half of it. But if you want to believe the media is the know all, tell all, that your choice. ( and you would be wrong.)

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  23. Walt Avatar

    Now lets get into what we do have and don’t field. ( put into use)
    We had an airborne laser. ( maybe we still do) it was tested and proven
    to work WAY back in the 80’s. Then they ( military) installed the system
    on a 747-400. All that money thrown down a rat hole. That 747 has been stripped, and scrapped. Now the money is being spent to try and “shrink” the system. MORE good money gone.
    OBL could have been a charcoal briquette with a singed turban a long time ago
    if we chose too.
    Optic weapons are reality, but somehow Hellfire missiles on a drone is the tool of choice.
    So the real question is,, have we used them? Did those N. Korean missiles really fail? Just because “the media” didn’t report it, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, or exists. the same goes for what or wasn’t “found” in the Gulf war.
    We are fed the information they “allow” us to choke down.
    Speaking of what the media “reports”,,, NBC doctors another tape for maximum Libby anti gun effect. And once again it blew up in their face.
    So what’s the doctored tape count from LIB media now? 4?? maybe 5?

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  24. n Avatar
    n

    BTW, Europe has the same games we have, yet we have 62 mass shooting over the last 30 years, and Europe’s had one……
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers#Europe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers#School_massacres

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  25. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Chart indicates several things. It does NOT indicate the means of death. Most of the school killers commit suicide. Makes me wonder who put these lists together, No indexing by date or number of killings. Odd…
    You get one dynamited school ov the last 150 years since the invention of dynamite. How many shooting sprees with AR-15’s and Glocks since their invention. Dynamite seems to be much more effective than a whole arsenal of guns. Dynamite’s Not popular, is it? It is regulated, but if you were determined, you could make it or an ammonia device. But I guess killing is not the main objective, it really a matter of making other people experience pain where you can see it. That appears to be something that makes guns special, and the near autofire weapons makes it easy to inflict and see it. Some sort of revenge/compensation thing, I guess. I know this is sick, but it matches reality’s numbers, in re shoot massacres.
    A side note on radioactivity:

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar

    Walt
    You’re losing it for sure with your windmilling. Yes, anything that wasn’t reported in the media or through the government is possible. The question is how do you know these things (yellow cake-wmd’s to Syria etc..” that no one else accepts. Are you some kind of soothsayer we are supposed to believe because you are connected to some mythic source of truth? What was the reason for the “non disclosure” and who directed it? So many questions….
    So even Rumsfeld’s admission that there were no WMD’s is not enough for you.
    The trillions bucks bill and thousands of or war wounded and 5000 dead are waiting for your wisdom to reveal itself

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  27. Walt Avatar

    Doug. Your starting to sound like one of those people
    the “experts” have told us to be on the look out for.
    And yet, you still possess firearms. Somehow martyrdom
    is within your realm of thinking.
    Now that some so called preper has snapped and is holding a child hostage
    in a bunker, the next step is to outlaw bunkers. Maybe even a next step further?
    Outlaw hording as some may want to call it? “There oughta be a law” right Doug?

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  28. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Your Archie Bunker style thinking is not outlawed, Walt, but really, in today’s world?

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  29. Walt Avatar

    What ever Paul,,, Your going to believe whatever you care too.
    You have been spoon fed the problem from Lefty media, who will only
    dig for info that will make the Right side of the isle look bad, and
    not report on anything that may be remotely positive. This is nothing new.
    If anything, it’s gotten worse in a short period of time.
    Just like the Sen. Perv coverage. The LIB news networks have not really said a word about it. Now just what do you think if that guy had an “R” next to his name? And this Sen. likes little girls. And he’s not behind bars yet?

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  30. Walt Avatar

    Here is something the media didn’t tell you back when it happened.
    On and near the base I was stationed, there was some good old spying
    going on. One of the men from my unit was used as bait to try and catch
    the spook.
    Nope,, we don’t hear about things like that.

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  31. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Walt:

    The Iraqi people would have had a real interest in what Saddam was up to, if he had been up to anything. Probably more Betty Crocker yellow cake mix in Iraq than anything else.

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Since we didn’t do squat about the last 911 attack, the terrorists balls
    are growing a little bigger I fear. A new attack threat has been leveled.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/30/inside-the-ring-new-al-qaeda-threat/
    And didn’t “O” state the “war on terror is over”? I see no one told aL qaeda
    that, or they didn’t get the memo.
    Funny…. We were just talking about that the other day….

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  33. JesusBetterman Avatar

    So, Walt, what is your answer to this threat which is directed at the entire planet except Antarctica. Buy more AR-15’s and hand them out to whom, like candy?
    “The answer for it, in short: The coming strikes by al Qaeda, with God’s Might, will be in the heart of the land of nonbelief, America, and in France, Denmark, other countries in Europe, in the countries that helped and are helping France, and in other places that shall be named by al Qaeda at other times,” the threat states.
    The attacks will be “strong, serious, alarming, earth-shattering, shocking and terrifying.”
    Or should we stop the drone strikes? Really Walt, you have all the answers, please tell.

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  34. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Back on the gun testimony in Wash DC, looks like nobody can find home invaders repelled by AR-15:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfmONl-9_Y

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  35. Gerry Fedor Avatar
    Gerry Fedor

    I find it rather “ironic” that Walt want’s to complain about how “those darn leftist and how they want to remove guns from Patriot’s like me” when we all know that this is nothing more than a smokescreen.

    I find it rather “interesting” that there is now talk among the right to try to pass the following as a “replacement to the 2nd amendment”:

    Recognizing that the need to arm the populace as a militia is no longer of much concern, but also realizing that firearms are a part of our history and culture and are used by many for both personal defense and sport, this site has proposed a new 2nd Amendment — an amendment to replace the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. This proposed text is offered as a way to spark discussion of the topic.
    Section 1. The second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
    Section 2. The right of the people to keep arms reasonable for hunting, sport, collecting, and personal defense shall not be infringed.

    Section 3. Restrictions of arms must be found to be reasonable under Section 2 by a two-thirds vote of Congress in two consecutive sessions of Congress before they can be forwarded to the President for approval.

    These people are so far and out of touch with the majority of American’s, that they feel the American public would believe their cry’s and support something like this?
    If you don’t think that the wacko’s are going to use this as a war cry then we all need to learn just how paranoid they really are!

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  36. Gregory Avatar

    Gerry, you’re going to have to drive down the NRA poll numbers before you get the 2nd watered down:
    “NRA Has 54% Favorable Image in U.S.”
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/159578/nra-favorable-image.aspx
    Good luck, I think that’s above President Obama’s numbers at the moment.
    Regarding that proposed 2nd, it was apparently not meant as a serious proposal just for discussion by a guy at one website, no political capital was expended by anyone pushing it and dates from before the SCOTUS incorporated the 2nd into the 14th by McDonald v. Chicago, applying it to the states. Now that incorporation is settled law, don’t expect anyone to pay it (or anything like it) any attention:
    http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_2nd.html

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  37. Gregory Avatar

    Here you go, Keach, an AR-15 owned by a Texas sheriff used by his 15 year old son to repel a couple of home invaders when he was home alone with his younger sister:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-q2zHIovOE&feature=player_embedded
    Just because MSNBC couldn’t find one doesn’t mean they don’t exist. They might not be trying very hard.

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  38. Jesus Betterman Avatar
    Jesus Betterman

    All it takes to knock the NRA numbers down is enough citizens ticked off enough to drive the numbers of members and cash stash of the various groups on this list http://patriotaction.net/group/iresistguncontrol/forum/topic/show?id=2600775:Topic:6051769&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
    I would imagine that each mass shooting boosts those numbers on a quarterly basis.

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  39. Jesus Betterman Avatar
    Jesus Betterman

    Greg’s numbers were apparently generated shortly after Sandy Hook, most recent date mentioned is December 22, 2012. At this point, ancient history.

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  40. Jesus Betterman Avatar
    Jesus Betterman

    Took you side long enough to find it. Of course there was nothing in the vicinity that might have become collateral damage, now was there? I I lived across the street, I’d be happier if he’d been using a shotgun. Now, how many more can you find, since that one was so easy for you, noting your taunting of MSNBC. “not trying very hard”? Since you are so talented, let’s find 20 more.

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  41. Gregory Avatar

    “Took you [sic] side long enough to find it.”
    A minute of my time is long? For that matter, it was found the moment that reporter was on the scene. Keach, you’re confusing the MSNBC Kabuki with reality.
    Face it, the 2nd will remain intact and incorporated into the 14th. The last tragedy has resulted in new legislation here and there, and that will keep constitutional lawyers busy in sorting out what’s acceptable and what isn’t.
    Have you figured out the complexity of building a calorimeter large enough to hold the Earth yet?

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  42. Jesus Betterman Avatar
    Jesus Betterman

    Have you figured out that the biophere is not the entire planet?

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  43. Gregory Avatar

    LOL, OK, have you figured out how to build a calorimeter large enough to hold the biosphere and still let it interact with the rest of the planet and the rest of the universe?
    The IPCC is still waiting for you to tell it how to get it right! 🙂

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    A relevant side observation. When someone’s point is countered, and the point is subsequently remade as if it were not countered, why bother to respond to that person? Example: JesusB 400pm, GeoR 433pm, JesusB 1237am.

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  45. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory | 01 February 2013 at 06:58 AM
    I’m sure if you look far enough you can find examples of home invaders repelled with a fork.
    Oh, here’s one.
    “Margaret Jackson may be a 73-year-old grandmother, but she’s no pushover.
    Just ask the guy who attempted a home invasion — she stabbed him with a big barbecue fork.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/margaret-jackson-stabs-thief-with-bbq-fork_n_1822458.html

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  46. George Rebane Avatar

    In debates like this on gun control, the almost entirely unreported cases of self-defense and crime prevention that timely brandishing of guns by intended victims is huge. In my life this has occurred twice while we lived in soCal. Here’s an unlikely source of some numbers on this phenomenon.
    http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm

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  47. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Just to put an exclamation on the the illegal Iraq invasion/ occupation, it was planned long before 9/11 happened. Here are three examples. The other thing to accept is every reason for justifying invading Iraq turned out to be false or wrong. It doesn’t matter because the point was to get into Iraq no matter what because once we were there we were going to create a free market paradise. Yet another example of free market theology failures, yes theological. Free Marketeers have taken their belief into the religious realm since there is no example of it working but their faith is absolute.
    1998 Letter to President Clinton by a number of people who would eventually be in or advisers to W Bush administration
    http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
    2000 George W Bush talking about being commander-in-chief (meaning war time President)
    http://www.russbaker.com/archives/Guerrilla%20News%20Network%20-%20Bush.htm
    2001 Cheney’s Secret Energy Task Force dividing up the country of Iraq in 2001
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/maps-and-charts-of-iraqi-oil-fields/

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  48. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    On guns and second amendment nobody wants to talk about the failures of society/ culture that create the circumstances of mentally ill person would not only feel but actually act on such desperate and destructive thoughts/ feelings. I think the gun debate is a waste of time if we don’t address these other issues at the same time.
    We cannot control every variable but what we can do is identify these variables and their indicators/ symptoms to try and combat violent crime at all levels not just at the pulling of a trigger.

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  49. Jesus Betterman Avatar
    Jesus Betterman

    So the score is now one (1) Home Invaders Shot vs ??? school inhabitants shot? And gee, we’re only i the first quarter of the 21st century? Lots of game time left for the Home Invaders side to play “catch up.” But watch out for those collated damage penalties. (posted Saturday of Super Bowl weekend)
    Relatively speaking, I suspect that anything much below two miles of crust can be ignored for all practical purposes. If it ever did start to change in any significant way, then the magma would have hit the meteor/planetesimals, and the lights go off and out for good.
    So, as I pointed out way back when, both sides need far more measuring points than they currently have, and a sound way of coming up with numbers that are real.

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  50. JesusBetterman Avatar

    BTW George, I notice that the Captchas were not on when I first started logging in from the desktop as JB, for the first couple of days. They are on now incessantly. I will be very tempted to do the experiment of yet another unknown sock from a totally different machine and IP, and see if they are off there. As you may have gathered, they slow me down by all of 20 seconds at best, missing only about 1 in 20 when I get sloppy.

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