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George Rebane

Do you notice that on all the media (Fox included) it’s a big no-no to piss off Muslims?  Now with all the action going on in Mali, Obama’s lie about Al Qaeda being on the ropes is exposed, and the reporters are again having to talk about “the war on terror” a lot.  But when they get down to reporting against whom the war is fought, they get all mushy and wind up calling them “Islamic militants”.  That’s it, there are no other enemies in that misnamed conflict called “the war on terror”, except the ragheads who keep killing innocent civilians by the thousands wherever and whenever they can do it.  But no one dare report that we are fighting ‘Islamic terrorists’, that’s a big no-no.  It is politically very incorrect to juxtapose Islam and terrorism, or to call them bad names like ragheads.  Those folks are only militants, you know, just like people all over who happen to be 'militating' for what’s good and right.

And there’s more.  The WH spin is that Al Qaeda is just “shifting its focus” to north Africa, as opposed to expanding its operations from the middle East.  I don’t know, given all the stuff that’s going on and growing in Afghanistan as we prepare for our victorious exit, it sure looks like more than a little shift of focus is going on.  After all they are now operating in two theaters with boots on the ground and guns in hand, and kidnapping Americans.  Oh well, I hope everyone here knows who is fighting whom for what.

Wonder what Hillary will say about Benghazi on 23 January?  Maybe it will be the Richard Pryor confession about when he screwed up heating his heroin or something – ‘Best we can tell, the ambassador and his aides were in the compound getting ready for bed.  They decided to have some milk and cookies in the kitchen before turning in.  And when one of them dunked a cookie into his glass of milk, suddenly the whole thing blew up.  Then a lot of people showed up.  It was terrible.  We really don’t know much more than that.’

Oh yes, the gun banners have gained another public relations advance.  Recall that they went from wanting to ban guns to just ‘controlling’ them.  Well, after Newtown, outlets like National Propaganda Radio have been reporting on Joe Biden meeting with all kinds different groups in order to fashion his recommendations that the President received this week.  So here’s the new look for those who really don’t like guns in civilian hands, they’re now called the ‘gun safety groups’.  Yep, the whole 2nd Amendment debate will be divided into folks belonging to the ‘gun rights’ groups opposing the ‘gun safety’ groups.  Now which of you out there are against gun safety?

Remember all that blather for months and years about not raising taxes on the middle class.  Bygones.  The guy needed to get re-elected, and dammit he had to promise something, don’t you see?  We now find out that taxes are going up for as long as this bunch is in Washington, and don’t you forget it.  Why?  Because that is the way we’re going to get the economy going again and reduce the deficits.  They’ve looked at the whole mess from every which way, and that’s clearly the only solution that will work.  Besides, you didn’t really think he wasn’t going to raise taxes on everyone who still pays them.  After all, there aren’t that many of us suckers left out there – it’s either us or who?

Finally, we recall how responsive this White House was going to be to the people's inputs?  You know, using the internet and all that.  All it would take was 5,000 of you good folks out there signing a petition about some concern, then this White House would jump on the case and provide an answer.  Well, that was a bit low, lotta petitions – how about 10,000?  No, nope, that was still too many petitions.  Let’s make that 25,000.  Whoa! Now that didn’t work; how about we bump it to 50,000 little siggies required on a single petition.  Well hell! Whatsamatta you out there, no one got a job or nothin’, signing petitions alla time!!  Today the WH asked ‘how’s a cool 100,000 sound before we even peek into our inbox?’  I guess the real message is that all such bets are off until 2016 when Hillary can have a go at it.  In the meantime you all can shove your ‘vox populi’ up where the sun don’t shine.

[18jan13 update]  I was waiting for John R Lott Jr to weigh in on the current gun ban imbroglio.  Lott has been the leading researcher on gun laws, and has published extensively on the subject.  In the 18jan13 WSJ he writes ‘The Facts About Assault Weapons and Crime’.  It’s worth a read, especially by those enthralled with all the ‘benefits’ to the safety of school children promised by Barack and Dianne when their next gun bans go into effect.  This is bullpucky season in spades, and it might help to throw in a fact or two on the matter, even if they are inconvenient.

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194 responses to “Ruminations – 17jan13 (updated 18jan13)”

  1. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, perhaps if you’d quote one or more sentences you think were a “lie” we can figure out what your problem is.

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  2. Gregory Avatar

    “And that makes you a legitimate target for lethal fire?”
    “Legitimate”? National Guard troops not trained for crowd control or mob suppression were placed in harm’s way. They didn’t know “legitimate” from a hole in the ground, didn’t know what the hell to do and had ammunition that carries a lethal force well over a mile.
    Keach, you’re a loose cannon. Again.

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  3. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Greg, who recommends gun safety training as in not picking out inappropriate targets, as a cure for school shootings, comes on strong, here too, as usual. A real Libertarian Contrarian!

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  4. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, you misrepresent what I write faster than anyone can correct. And you’ve called me a liar but refuse to quote one supposed lie.
    For the record, I’ve not once been an apologist for the National Guard at Kent State. The one hero there was probably the professor quoted by the wiki who pleaded, in part,
    “I don’t care whether you’ve never listened to anyone before in your lives. I am begging you right now. If you don’t disperse right now, they’re going to move in, and it can only be a slaughter. Would you please listen to me? Jesus Christ, I don’t want to be a part of this…!”
    Fortunately, he was listened to.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Holy crap Dougy!!! So some signage is “violence” in your book?
    Good God man… Maybe you should look at some of the “signage” from
    your OWN political affiliation.( Like when Bush was in office?)
    A vary pisspoor comparison at best, We know how you love to grasp at straws when your sinking fast in the argument dept.

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  6. Gregory Avatar

    Walt, what Doug Keachie does when he’s called on an out and out falsehood is more character assassination. I’d call him a liar except I have no way to tell the difference between his inability to reason, understand the written word or remember what it really was 5 minutes later, and just plain BS pulled out of his wrinkled southernmost orifice intended to defame someone, often me.

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  7. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Gregory, back to his Basics, as predictable as Old Faithful, when ascribing the sources of his afflictions. Further proof that at least some of us have devolved from monkeys.
    “The issue was Mandersonation’s claim the Weathermen were just incensed by the Kent State shooting of nonviolent protestors; they weren’t nonviolent”
    The blanket charactization of the Kent State protestors, here clearly seen as including ALL Kent State protestors, is a lie, an untruth, a mischaracterization, a stupid cruel remark, a thoughtless remark, an utterance of a temporarily unkept mind, and just generally not condusive to adult conversation on a rational plane, a flight of Greg’s fancy, if you will. As I mentioned before, Greg loves to insist in precision in the remarks of others, but occasionally gets slovenly when making remarks of his own.
    Waltsie, up there in the Peanut Gallery, I never said the left was non-violent, in its entirity, and thought that looking at this fine selection of images would bring to the forefront, the just beneath the surface threatening and intimidation that the right love, saving the real deal for when they are sure they won’t get caught.

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  8. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, you’re in a mob, a state of emergency was declared, the National Guard was called in by the Governor because of the violence, rocks are being thrown by the mob, and the mob is refusing to disperse. Earlier, a building was burned to the ground with a thousand cheering.
    The only good thing that came of it is the National Guard changed how it handles crowd control. All they had that was effective were very lethal weapons.
    A lie is an intentionally told falsehood and what I wrote remains literally true. No guardsman was found guilty of a crime with their claims to self defense accepted by the courts but to my mind the biggest insanity was the university remaining in session with the Guard called in, armed, to disperse the protests. Two of the dead were just innocent bystanders, a particular tragedy.

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  9. Gregory Avatar

    “here clearly seen as including ALL Kent State protestors”
    That’s the mischaracterization that your petite slander rests on. Some of the mob were throwing rocks and setting fires. That wasn’t a “non violent” protest, and some of the dead and wounded were part of the protest. And in general, the mob didn’t disperse until one passionate Geology professor convinced them to take it seriously and avoid a huge slaughter.

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  10. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    The beach is awash with your littoral débris, and like the stuff coming in on the west Coast from Japan, it is as radioactive as hell, and would be best offed the planet to become space junk. You go literal when it pleases you, but never allow others the same freedom.

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  11. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Greg, Walt, and all others who falsely equate non violent protests to violent acts.
    If a movement and protest are based in non violence then we will see a vast majority of those movements and protests being non violent. When some violent provocateurs rear their ugly heads and start smashing things and acting out in violent ways, I bet you over 90% of them are paid or enticed to do so from somebody with power/ wealth that is being threatened by the movement/ protest. So your examples of rogue acts within a movement or protests are proving the point. If the theme was to be violent it would be the non violent protesters in the minority. Personally on smaller movements I have no problem with sabotage to inanimate objects and property. I can tell you right now that I have pulled up thousands of survey stakes, which in your guys eyes is a violent act. I slowed down the process by increasing the time and cost to the project by doing so it allowed more information to become public on the negative affects of the project. We stopped some really bad development projects in the Southwest but when money smells money those victories are almost always temporary because the money will continue to push until they get what they want. That is why Emgold lost its battle with CLAIM. CLAIM had the facts on their side and Emgold lost their funding and had to call it quits for the time being. IMM will become an issue once again in the near future when another financial backer is sold on the idea that there is gold in there tailings and abandoned mine shafts.

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  12. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    “rocks are being thrown by the mob,”
    Rocks are not thrown by mobs. They are thrown by individuals, and sometimes those individuals are agent provocateurs, from the government, the FBI, the original False Flaggers.
    If you are in a bar, and somebody gets drunk, it does not mean that you are drunk, but then, how else to explain your writings of late?
    You tried for fame as the “Great Divider.” Are you enjoying your payback yet?

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    More to the point of MAnderson’s claim that the Weathermen were just responding to Kent State, from the founding document of the Weather Underground, signed, among others, by Bill Ayres and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn:
    “The most important task for us toward making the revolution, and the work our collectives should engage in, is the creation of a mass revolutionary movement, without which a clandestine revolutionary party will be impossible. A revolutionary mass movement is different from the traditional revisionist mass base of “sympathizers”. Rather it is akin to the Red Guard in China, based on the full participation and involvement of masses of people in the practice of making revolution; a movement with a full willingness to participate in the violent and illegal struggle.”
    Dated a year before the Kent State shootings.
    Keach, you apparently can’t even spell “literal” reliably, and you’ve been having problems with “Keachie”.

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  14. Gregory Avatar

    “I bet you over 90% of them are paid or enticed to do so from somebody with power/ wealth that is being threatened by the movement/ protest”
    Ben, that’s as bad as Joe McCarthy seeing a Communist behind every bush.
    No Keach, rocks really are thrown by mobs, and the leader of any mob is the guy in the front.

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  15. Gregory Avatar

    More accounts of “non violent protests”:
    “The dispersal process began late in the morning with campus patrolman Harold Rice, riding in a National Guard Jeep, approaching the students to read them an order to disperse or face arrest. The protesters responded by throwing rocks, striking one campus Patrolman and forcing the Jeep to retreat.”

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  16. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    George, perhaps you should study up on “Independence”, ID. It is essentially a new urbanist planned community. And A 21 does not impose any zoning or design review ordinances, cities, counties and regions do. All under EXISTING US planning law. It is all perfectly legal and vetted under the US Constitution. Buyers purchasing in any area should be fully aware of the rules governing use of property. It is their responsibility. I would be willing to bet you checked the zoning and neighborhood before you bought your house when you fled up here from your compound in the hills above L.A.

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Libby revisionism is being written with crayon today.
    Lets see the permit and paid in full carbon credits from all the
    hot air Progressives.
    (Reprinted WITH permission)
    WAR IS PEACE
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
    To the modern progressive, slave of the controlled media, freedom is fornicating naked in the streets. Freedom is destruction of traditional values and culture. Freedom is being fed, clothed, housed, and owned by the government. Freedom is having the rich and the elites armed to the teeth while you live defenseless. All while they rob you blind. Freedom is being a slave.
    Follow your masters orders, peasants. Maybe he’ll throw you a Roman style sex orgy party to celebrate the gutting of your constitution and the raping of your freedom. When is the inauguration anyway?
    From a fellow Conservative with his head screwed on right,
    and from the pages of S.F. gate.

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  18. Gregory Avatar

    “I can tell you right now that I have pulled up thousands of survey stakes, which in your guys eyes is a violent act. I slowed down the process by increasing the time and cost to the project by doing so it allowed more information to become public on the negative affects of the project.”
    No Ben, it isn’t violent but it is trespass, theft and vandalism; shame on you.
    What project was it that you sabotaged?

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 259pm – I think your comment again proves that you haven’t understood a think I have written about A21. I’m not sure what you’re saying or claiming that I said. Of course A21 does not have specific implementation codes and regulations for local areas. A21is just the blueprint for generating/revising such codes and regulations whose cited genesis can be anything one wants to claim. A collectivist doesn’t have to cite the Manifesto every time he nudges society toward the Perfect Man.

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  20. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Obviously Greg completely missed the reference and the alliterative semi pun:
    Littoral refers to “Coastal” which, as a grad of the illustrious “just as good if not gooder in English than Berkeley, esp. the anthro dept,” Harvey Mudd, I would expect Gregory Goodknight to understand at first glance. Even Geology 101 would have gotten that piece of science vocabulary into his head. Maybe you were hoping to impress Walt?
    S o mob is inherently a communist organization? Interesting concept, but it fails badly in historic examination. Just because you live in Nevada County, Greg, it doesn’t mean that you join every single organization within the county, or agree with all your fellow citizens. Yet being a citizen of Nevada County does united you, at least geographically, to the rest of the citizens. Do you think that every Tea Party member in the Fourth of July parade agreed with the anti Obama sign, that said, “Bend Over for Change!” ???

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  21. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    And the day isn’t even over yet!
    Occupy the NRA
    BREAKING: 4 People Shot At 3 Different Gun Shows On Gun Appreciation Day. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/19/1473881/two-people-accidentally-shot-at-a-gun-show-safety-checkpoint-on-gun-appreciation-day/

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  22. Walt Avatar

    Well,well, well… I know some people who have been looking for you.
    RE; survey stakes. Thanks for the admission of guilt.
    I’m sure you realize the COST of putting those back.( that’s the whole idea I guess)
    Can you say,,, vandalism?? That IS agin’ the law! You might be proud of that. Then be just as proud of the consequences. Your acts (when you did’m) were reported to “the proper authorities”. Those are still on the books, and open cases. Like I said. Admission of guilt, in an open forum, is SOOO admissible in court.
    Can we tie you to an exact action? Maybe not… But that will be for your legal counsel to iron out. Glad you can afford the litigator, not to mention all the hassle that goes with it.
    Thanks for letting us know that your a card carrying member of “ECO terrorism”. YUP,,, That’s what it boils down too.
    You can bet when those stakes disappeared from one of MY jobs,
    we were a little more than peeved. But I don’t recall my crew going on
    an “official eco buggy” burning rampage. Not that it didn’t cross our minds at the time.
    Anyhow,, thanks for fessin’ up. Who knows,,, Johnny Law, might want to have a word with ya’. They are in need of revenue and will be more than happy to level some hefty fines.(at your expense)

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  23. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    You might be safer in Chicago than at a gun show these days.

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  24. Walt Avatar

    And ALL ACCIDENTS Dougy. Nice try.
    How many “hate” signs can we find in Liberal hands when Bush was around?
    Really want to go there? And those make any Tea Party sign look bland in comparison. ( We know,,, we know… You have piss poor eyesight, and only see what you want to)
    Hummmmmm,, Ben a top official within the E.L.F.? And right here in little ol’ Nev. Co. no less.

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  25. Walt Avatar

    I’m passing my hardhat around to collect enough for a one way ticket to Chicago for dear old Doug. He needs to prove that statement.
    It’s been fun knowing ya’….

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  26. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    So let me see if I have what you are saying correct George: Agenda 21 has no force of law, it is merely a collection of ideas, put down more than 20 years ago by a bunch of people, and what happens locally is decided by locals, or through American law.
    Seems like the person putting it into practice this time is Glenn Beck. Why should Glenn Beck have a right any other community shouldn’t have?
    So I see, it is the idea that is dangerous. Unless your friends do it and call it Galt’s Gulch!

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  27. Walt Avatar

    LOL Steve,, I happen to recall just WHEN Agen.21 first reared it’s ugly head around here. Remember the name Drew Bidwell?( God rest his soul) How bout good old NH2020? Drew opened our eyes to 21 way back then, and just how NH2020
    was tied in parts to 21. Libs called him nuts back then that 21 even existed, and was a figment of his imagination.
    NOT so imaginary now… Is it? As I recall, it was LIBS that claimed that Ajenda 21 never existed.

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  28. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    First, I think you must mean Bedwell, and second, I have never said A21 did not exist, I said it was irrelevant because the decisions about planning, zoning, design guidelines and land use are made under local law, under the California State Constitution, and property rights are adjudicated under the US Constitution. What your guys did not understand in 2001 and still do not understand, is the LAW.
    But you are a Beckhead Walt, how do you like his new urbanist community?

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  29. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 440pm – Thank your for being persistently obtuse, because it illuminates another aspect of progressive ‘logic’.
    Plan A: Glenn Beck et al promote private enterprises that develop communities on private land for people to voluntarily join and live in a cohesive lifestyle that expresses a more or less similar socio-political ideology. It does not impinge on those who choose other lifestyles.
    Plan B: Your Agenda21-like collective approach is to exact a new imperative of laws, regs, codes that change the lifestyles of people already living in a jurisdiction into which they moved expecting a different social order to perpetuate. These people will have to be marshaled to the new order under the threat or application of the government’s gun.
    Plan A is voluntary that sacrifices no liberties. Plan B is coerced by force that on the surface appears as the tyranny of the majority over the minority; but more often than not is really the tyranny of the activist minority over the unsuspecting and inattentive majority.
    That you and yours don’t see a difference here is another promoter of the Great Divide. On the intellectual plain, you are simply irredeemable.

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  30. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Here’s your Plan A being applied to the Gun Lobby agenda:
    http://www.politicususa.com/nra-fueled-loonies-threatening-democratic-members-congress.html

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  31. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Or could it be, the NRA’s implementation of your Plan B ???

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  32. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    George, your problem is that you think that people live in bubbles….every citizen lives under laws, and every property owner lives in an environment where they are subject to the rule of law in planning and zoning. The land Beck is developing is covered by those laws, and your back yard is covered by those laws. There is ZERO difference. For you to think there is a difference is for you to say that you wish to be beyond the rule of law. It is essentially, unicorn farts.

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK 628pm – Keep it up Doug. The “thinly veiled” description by the congressman says it all. It’s the perennial progressives’ ‘we know what they are REALLY thinking’. First construct the strawman, then have a lot of fun cutting it down to the huzzahs from loyal chorus in the hustings.

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  34. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    I hate to laugh at this, but I find it HILARIOUS that on this “national gun appreciation day”, 8 people have been wounded in accidental shootings at 5 different gun shows.

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  35. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 649pm – To point that out is indeed embarrassing, and also very effective with the nation’s innumerates.
    Viewed in light of more focused statistics, the casualties attest to the large number of people expressing their support of the 2nd Amendment today, many of whom were clearly naifs in the proper handling of firearms. In that expanded population of support and enthusiasm, such accidents are a statistical certainty. You and your similarly endowed colleagues would be absolutely surprised at how many firearms accidents occur in the military on a regular basis with weapons in the hands of trained personnel.

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  36. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    Walt,
    I am proud of it and statutes of limitations have run out, sorry big guy. This was in the 80’s and 90’s. If it wasn’t for my family/ kids I would have been more active at Black Mesa movement against Peabody Coal. Talk about corporate crimes and corruption. I would have broken the law in Nazi Germany just as I would have in the US Segregated South or South Africa. It is our duty to break unjust laws. The lies and criminal business practices of the developers in the region made my actions a duty. Yes eventually they were convicted of criminal wrong doing long after their developments were finished. Since corporations cannot be thrown in jail they were fined instead, lying isn’t wrong or immoral in the big money world it is just part of the cost of doing business.

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  37. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Is Gabby Giffords a straw woman?

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  38. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 647pm – Not at all. To make your point, you need to show that such private communities (as Beck is also describing) violate any of the common laws. They do not. The only bubble here is the Big Bubble that the progressives would like to see us in where equal outcomes are the only accepted measure of equal opportunity.

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  39. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK 703pm – connecting logic please?

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  40. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Connecting logic: It seemed to me you were suggesting that threats from NRA noodle brains were a straw man, and I merely suggested they are not.

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  41. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George,
    I don’t want to get sucked into yours and Steve’s Agenda 21 discussion because I don’t know very little about it and I think Steve can handle his own on an issue it appears he is very familiar. That said, I have noticed you go to what is legal in your argument. Being legal and being correct are two different things. It’s legal at the moment for the federal government to have access to our medical and library records, it doesn’t mean it is correct.

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  42. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    DougK 804pm – I was quoting your cited congressman who constructed the usual strawman that he claimed to see through a thin veil. This your (i.e. progressives’) substitute for rigor in a debate. Whatever another person says can be construed by you as a ‘thinly veiled’ anything you want it to be that is convenient to attack. The strawman, thus constructed, was only through your own subjective attribution. And, of course, I would expect you to accept what the congressman asserted.
    BenE 815pm – your use of ‘legal’ and ‘correct’ in this context is faulty. In general my arguments are meant to be correct from a factual and logical perspective. If they happen to correctly incorporate some unclaimed point of law, then they are also legal. Your use of ‘correct’ implies the meaning of complying to some moral or ethical code. The more common semantic of ‘correct’ is with reference to an objective standard. For example, 9 is the correct answer to 5+4. I hope this helps.

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  43. Gregory Avatar

    “S o [sic] mob is inherently a communist organization? Interesting concept, but it fails badly in historic examination.” -Keachie
    Absolutely bizarre and illogical construct unlike anything I’ve written. The Weather Underground was inherently Marxist, and I showed their violence were not inspired by Kent State (as the WU was formed a year earlier with an expressly violent manifesto) which is a claim MA made that started this idiocy of yours. Mob dynamics were a separate topic.
    Keach, you just can’t keep anything straight, can you?

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  44. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Oh, what a fine sunny day it has been. A lovely work day, making lots of money, followed by a kids birthday party sleepover–this is what it’s all about.
    The kiddos are now watching some silly G-rated movie so I thought I’d slip over to RR for some adult comedy, and boy was I rewarded. The Keachie-Goodknight show never disappoints, I see a new injection of Agenda 21 madness, and Ben even admits to some lite “eco-terrorism” from at least a couple of decades ago.
    Thanks guys, I needed the chuckles. Keep up the good work.

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  45. Walt Avatar

    “I said it was irrelevant because the decisions about planning, zoning, design guidelines and land use are made under local law, under the California State Constitution,” as in most states I gather as well.
    And I happen to remember a radical group that used that to their
    advantage to literally take over the community. Hell. they damned near got the whole County. You know,, that guru with a white Roles Royce
    and his Hippy followers. (Rajneesh something or other)
    What was it? The town of Antelope? The state slips my mind at the moment. Yes, they had power for a short time, but that came to an end real quick.
    What went down there, sure had 21 written all over it. Almost like they had the playbook.

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  46. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Walt, the tinfoil is showing. Might want to give that helmet a bit of an adjustment.

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  47. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    BTW, on the eve of Obama’s inauguration I think David Brooks has written one of the best columns of his career. He describes very well the mess the Republicans have made of themselves, and the two options that the Democrats face: either try to work with them, or crush them.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/18/opinion/brooks-the-next-four-years.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
    I have to say, the “crush them” option looks mighty appetizing. I especially like the diminishing political clout of the South. They had their day in the sun and now it looks as if they are returning to “unimportant backwater.” Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of illiterates, irascible malcontents, and Second-Worlders (certainly not all of the South–I love New Orleans, and Huntsville has some functioning parts–but you get the idea).
    I hope their reduced status gives them the proper motivation to finally join the United States of America as a full partner and team member, rather than a pouting step-child with a chip on its shoulder the size of the Shreveport Eldorado. The South needs to grow up or secede once and for all (good riddance I say), and time is running out.

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  48. Jesus Betterman Avatar

    Well Bush thinks the NRA (not Relevant Anymore) sucks: http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html
    I think Greg should just head on over to Walt’s and join him in his hot tub for a beer.

    Or maybe some $2.49 Buck Chuck. 5 million users can’t be wrong. Of course, like the footlong Subway sandwich that only reaches 11″, it no longer lives up to its original name.
    I’m watching Further at the Sweetwater, in Mill Valley, on the Desktop, now streaming in live video and pretty good sound, so that’s why I am J.B. just now.

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  49. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Really George, you are like a petulant child. A 70 year old petulant child who stamps his foot and says, I want it my way, I do’;t want to live in a society where people vote and decide if it does not go my way, I don’t want to follow rules if the people decide and I don;t really care if they are within our system if it does not go my way. I don;t want to live with anybody who doesn’t think like I do. Pretty soon you ail jusy be alone, like the guy in Life of Brian muttering in the Colosseum that he is the real representative of the People’s Front for the Liberation of Judea. I think you should succeed. You came to the wrong friggin’ country, You were 100 years too late. You should have gone to South Carolina. Its a new world baby, and it ain’t yours to do with what you please. You have to live with other people. Live with it.
    I am with you Michael, crush the bastards. They are yesterdays news. Oh, and I like Austin, and Little Rock, and Athens, and Durham-Raleigh, and Miami, and a few others, but George can have Hailey, Idaho and Oklahoma.

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  50. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George, this is the Great Divide that many people capture from your words. You will need to get a lot more specific regarding the pieces on the ground.
    Are we just talking about Citadel-like developments, or full-on secession?
    “‘So I was carried back to the Captain’s,’ the man said later. ‘That night he made me strip off my clothing down to my waist, had me tied to a tree in his backyard, ordered his foreman to gave me thirty lashes with a buggy whip across my bare back, and stood by until it was done.’”
    http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/souths-shocking-hidden-history-thousands-blacks-forced-slavery-until-ww2?akid=9929.6940.TKIhcb&rd=1&src=newsletter777738&t=3&paging=off

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