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George Rebane

Do you notice that on all the media (Fox included) it’s a big no-no to piss off Muslims?  Now with all the action going on in Mali, Obama’s lie about Al Qaeda being on the ropes is exposed, and the reporters are again having to talk about “the war on terror” a lot.  But when they get down to reporting against whom the war is fought, they get all mushy and wind up calling them “Islamic militants”.  That’s it, there are no other enemies in that misnamed conflict called “the war on terror”, except the ragheads who keep killing innocent civilians by the thousands wherever and whenever they can do it.  But no one dare report that we are fighting ‘Islamic terrorists’, that’s a big no-no.  It is politically very incorrect to juxtapose Islam and terrorism, or to call them bad names like ragheads.  Those folks are only militants, you know, just like people all over who happen to be 'militating' for what’s good and right.

And there’s more.  The WH spin is that Al Qaeda is just “shifting its focus” to north Africa, as opposed to expanding its operations from the middle East.  I don’t know, given all the stuff that’s going on and growing in Afghanistan as we prepare for our victorious exit, it sure looks like more than a little shift of focus is going on.  After all they are now operating in two theaters with boots on the ground and guns in hand, and kidnapping Americans.  Oh well, I hope everyone here knows who is fighting whom for what.

Wonder what Hillary will say about Benghazi on 23 January?  Maybe it will be the Richard Pryor confession about when he screwed up heating his heroin or something – ‘Best we can tell, the ambassador and his aides were in the compound getting ready for bed.  They decided to have some milk and cookies in the kitchen before turning in.  And when one of them dunked a cookie into his glass of milk, suddenly the whole thing blew up.  Then a lot of people showed up.  It was terrible.  We really don’t know much more than that.’

Oh yes, the gun banners have gained another public relations advance.  Recall that they went from wanting to ban guns to just ‘controlling’ them.  Well, after Newtown, outlets like National Propaganda Radio have been reporting on Joe Biden meeting with all kinds different groups in order to fashion his recommendations that the President received this week.  So here’s the new look for those who really don’t like guns in civilian hands, they’re now called the ‘gun safety groups’.  Yep, the whole 2nd Amendment debate will be divided into folks belonging to the ‘gun rights’ groups opposing the ‘gun safety’ groups.  Now which of you out there are against gun safety?

Remember all that blather for months and years about not raising taxes on the middle class.  Bygones.  The guy needed to get re-elected, and dammit he had to promise something, don’t you see?  We now find out that taxes are going up for as long as this bunch is in Washington, and don’t you forget it.  Why?  Because that is the way we’re going to get the economy going again and reduce the deficits.  They’ve looked at the whole mess from every which way, and that’s clearly the only solution that will work.  Besides, you didn’t really think he wasn’t going to raise taxes on everyone who still pays them.  After all, there aren’t that many of us suckers left out there – it’s either us or who?

Finally, we recall how responsive this White House was going to be to the people's inputs?  You know, using the internet and all that.  All it would take was 5,000 of you good folks out there signing a petition about some concern, then this White House would jump on the case and provide an answer.  Well, that was a bit low, lotta petitions – how about 10,000?  No, nope, that was still too many petitions.  Let’s make that 25,000.  Whoa! Now that didn’t work; how about we bump it to 50,000 little siggies required on a single petition.  Well hell! Whatsamatta you out there, no one got a job or nothin’, signing petitions alla time!!  Today the WH asked ‘how’s a cool 100,000 sound before we even peek into our inbox?’  I guess the real message is that all such bets are off until 2016 when Hillary can have a go at it.  In the meantime you all can shove your ‘vox populi’ up where the sun don’t shine.

[18jan13 update]  I was waiting for John R Lott Jr to weigh in on the current gun ban imbroglio.  Lott has been the leading researcher on gun laws, and has published extensively on the subject.  In the 18jan13 WSJ he writes ‘The Facts About Assault Weapons and Crime’.  It’s worth a read, especially by those enthralled with all the ‘benefits’ to the safety of school children promised by Barack and Dianne when their next gun bans go into effect.  This is bullpucky season in spades, and it might help to throw in a fact or two on the matter, even if they are inconvenient.

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194 responses to “Ruminations – 17jan13 (updated 18jan13)”

  1. Walt Avatar

    Nice rant Ben. ” nonviolence” you say? Maybe you should use some examples a little closer to home. Like the Tea Party VS OWS. How does those two groups fit
    into your ” non violent” screed?

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Just a little trivia fact. It is SAFER to vacation in a war zone known as Afghanistan, that it is to in a “gun free zone” known as CHICOGO.
    ( less American troops were killed there,than civilians killed here on U.S. soil) Yup,, good old gun control is working just GREAT!
    BTW,, Good luck NY on getting those new 7 bullet magazines. ( aside from a model 1911 .45… I think..)

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  3. Walt Avatar

    Well well…. I see where Ben sourced, and (sort of)retitled his ” Conservative and Republican Reagan Counter Revolution “.
    And from West Point no less! Get a load of what they think about us freedom lovers there….. And they say we need not fret.. OH,,,JOY!…..
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/18/terrorism-center-at-west-point-warns-against-danger-of-american-limited-government-activists-and-far-right/

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  4. Ben Emery Avatar
    Ben Emery

    George,
    I don’t remember Moa or Stalin ever promoting non violence. Also you forgot the last part, “Righteousness nonviolent movements will always be more powerful as long as the media or information gets out to the public. ”
    Walt,
    OWS vs TP. There is a big difference between the two movements.
    – TP promote the ideas and policies of the establishment, so the hammer doesn’t come down. Those who have profited most off of our current policies own both parties that operate our government. Less taxes, less regulation, and less government spending (social programs not military) all work to the benefit of the wealthy and big business.
    – OWS challenge the policies of the establishment and there is a massive oppressive response from the establishment but people weren’t shot and killed.
    If TP comes out against the establishment with the same rhetoric we will see a violent exchange between the people and the state that will more than likely result in people being killed. In turn will perpetuate more violence.

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Yada,yada,yada…. You sure skipped over that “non violent” part.
    Arrests: TP 0 , OWS 1000’s+. Cost of damage. TP 0 ( property values most likely appreciated) OWS millions.
    TP works within the laws, OWS, well,,, need I say more? rapes, (yes)killings,
    home grown terrorists found within their ranks. And “O” and Co. pats them on the back, and Left wing media makes excuses for them.
    It’s clear that your one of those that like to cozzy up to “security over Liberty”.
    Uh,,, what’s the ” other” half of that statement?

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Looky what I found! And they still want to blame Bush
    for New Orleans and all that “lost” money. Looks like someone found it.
    And in a Democrat’s pocket no less.. ( like that’s a surprise)
    Look for this pardon to show up on “O”‘s desk when the time comes…..
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/justice/louisiana-former-mayor-indicted/index.html

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  7. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    The Weathermen also believed that the best way to remove a tyrannical gov’t was by choosing a violent path. Other than the obvious ideological polarity, how is what you guys espouse any different than what they believed?

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  8. George Rebane Avatar

    BenE 134pm – Your last part was covered by my little aphorism. And in this land of polarized and biased reporting, I believe we can pretty much forget about your “… as long as …” part being of any help. They most certainly don’t report stuff that we conservetarians consider of importance.

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    MichaelA 251pm – I’m not familiar with the ideology of the Weathermen, but I do know how our Founders thought to deal with a tyrannical government, and the legacy that they left us in that regard.

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  10. Gregory Avatar

    “I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_pledge

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  11. Walt Avatar

    Ironic isn’t? The “assault weapons” fun has come back and bit “O” and Co. in the ass. Good ol’ F&F.. Rich Marshal Holder is doing some heavy felating to try and keep those F&F records sealed. And from what I hear in the wind, the “we have to do something” that’s coming from “O” and Co. most likely will apply to them too.
    How many dead Mex. Citizens have piled up because of Holder?
    Yes, Bush may have played the same game,, but those records were turned over none the less. The day of reckoning is near.

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  12. Gregory Avatar

    The Bush era program was in cooperation with Mexican authorities, Fast and Furious was not. Not The Same Game.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    re Gregory’s 318pm – you gotta love that “… initiation of force …”

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  14. Gregory Avatar

    George, 3:37 … David Nolan had a way with words. I suspect PoliSci majors from MIT in general have more on the ball than the ones from CalState Frisco, and Nolan had a pretty good run, o’ that it could have been longer.
    I signed that pledge back in the ’80’s when I became a card carrying member of the Party but I’ve since fallen off the dues paying wagon.

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  15. Walt Avatar

    Mr. R,, Since you have the means, ( and I think you would have a BLAST )
    Think about making plans for a trip to AZ. . The Big Sandy gun shoot
    is a few months away. I will get there one day, but not anytime soon.
    My daughter was at the last one and told me what I was missing.
    Automatic weapons are there to rent. (you buy the ammo as well)
    From heavy guns to tanks are on the menu. The full rules, regs, and events
    are on the Big Sandy web site.
    I encourage any and every 2ND Amendment lover to attend just once in their life.

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    Walt 414pm – Thank you. That might be fun to do again. But I have had the chance (duty) to fire more kinds of weapons than I can recall that range from 223 to 175mm guns courtesy of the the US Government. (One of the most fun was the 105mm Jeep-mounted recoilless rifle with a coaxial 50 cal spotting rifle that is loaded with a magazine full of tracer rounds. A feeling of raw power in the hands of a lowly infantryman – but with that kind of gun you have to ‘shoot and scoot’, because it leaves a mighty big dust cloud behind that shouts ‘here I am!’)

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  17. Walt Avatar

    Just thinking of ya’,, and I know you like to get away now and then.
    My fear of going there is that I would burn up the value of my house
    in ammo alone.

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  18. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George wrote: ” you gotta love that ‘… initiation of force …’”
    That’s the crux of it, right? If the bad ol’ gov’t initiates force, then the 2nd Amendment has provided the means for us to defend ourselves.
    Well, I can’t speak for the Weathermen, and I don’t believe they actually had much of a gelled philosophy, but let’s just pretend that the unarmed peaceful protesters who were murdered at Kent State is what got the Weathermen’s panties in a bunch.
    Weren’t they engaging in their own version of par force?

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  19. George Rebane Avatar

    MichaelA 554pm – I am confused. “Weren’t they engaging in their own version of par force?” Which “they” are you referring to? The protesters had no par force. And I’m not sure what the Weathermen did with their bunched panties.

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  20. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Walt
    The couple that had to walk two miles through the dark to get to their home that night the tree finally toppled might have a few other notions about finding the tree across the road than you do. If they had been coming the other way with a medical emergency, there would be hell to pay. The couple whose dog was in a panic at the time of the shootings, and which managed to slip out two days later ain’t happy either. The dog has been sighted in the area, but won’t come near any humans, but is seen on game cameras.
    I’m noticing with amusement Hannity tonight, with champion female shooter demonstrating various guns, slowly squeezing the trigger once every two seconds, in an honest injun demo of how it works. The point being made was supposedly the great big hole from the shotgun with #2 was what you should really be afraid of. No mention of real speed of fire, speed an ease of reload, or distance of effectiveness, how to lie with human powered Powerpoint.

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  21. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    I’m ruminating on the fact that Glenn Beck has become an urban planner, and his Independence, USA (with its Gal’ts Gulch main street) looks a hell of a lot like new urbanist, Agenda 21, communitarianism.
    http://dc.streetsblog.org/2013/01/16/glenn-beck-double-agent-for-agenda-21/

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  22. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    A magazine has a spring that forces bullets into the chamber….
    So a Playboy with a pop-up centerfold?
    Seems that a lot of folks have confusion between mags and clips, and what does it matter? You can print your own; http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/01/14/gunsmiths-3d-print-high-capacity-ammo-clips-to-thwart-proposed-gun-laws/
    My guess that you could buy enough of a machine shop to make AK-47s for under $20,000 used. That was one of the original design criteria, easy to make parts.
    Now for the real scary: BioLab Hackers DIY DNA sequencing and green glowing cats:
    http://blog.ted.com/2013/01/15/ellen-jorgensen-on-what-you-can-do-in-a-diy-biotech-lab/

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  23. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    I suspect that the reference to the Weathermen (The Weather Underground) was really aimmed at The Symbionese Liberation Army, which did a lot more damage with guns.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army

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  24. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George obfuscated: “The protesters had no par force. And I’m not sure what the Weathermen did with their bunched panties.”
    Seriously? How do you know those kids at Kent State didn’t have guns at home to honor their 2nd Amendment rights?
    PART 1 of 4

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  25. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Let’s take, for example, the current par force of the day.
    The Syrian protests and demonstrations started peacefully, and the gov’t responded with gunfire. The protesters went home, loaded their guns, and answered like for like. Par force!
    PART 2 of 4

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  26. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Soon, Bashar al-Assad will be doing the “last plane out of Damascus” boogie.
    PART 3 of 4

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  27. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    The Weathermen’s bunched panties led to the following:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions
    PART 4 of 4

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  28. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Here’s the link that was causing the trouble above: http://tinyurl.com/b6skq8g

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  29. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Yup Greg, Keachie’s just so far out in left field, no one else has such crazy ideas.
    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/massachusetts_bill_would_requi.html#incart_river_default#incart_m-rpt-2
    This too shall come to pass.
    MA Part 3 Agreed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9b3ZZywQvg

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  30. Gregory Avatar

    Regarding the initiation of force and “let’s just pretend that the unarmed peaceful protesters who were murdered at Kent State is what got the Weathermen’s panties in a bunch”…. let’s get a Biblical perspective with some dialog from the Kevin Smith comedy, “Dogma”. A scene with the last scion, Bethany (Linda Fiorentino) and the 13th Apostle, Rufus (Chris Rock):
    Bethany: You were martyred?
    Rufus: That’s one way of putting it. Another way of putting it would be to say that I was bludgeoned to sht by big fcking rocks.
    Sorry, but throwing rocks is an initiation of force, as is burning buildings, and if you throw rocks at a bunch of scared and armed National Guardsmen sent to control mobs without any riot training, well, while it wasn’t a shining moment in the National Guard history, stoning isn’t a healthy part of any non-violent demonstration.

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  31. Walt Avatar

    Someone stop by Dougy’s place and put him back on his meds..
    Ya’ gotta tone the rhetoric down. In knee jerk reaction times like this,
    some busy body just might not understand the long standing wacky nature
    you possess, and call “the proper authorities”. To the layman, you could pose a threat to someone, and “something needs to be done before he hurts someone”.
    Ya’ gotta watch what you say dude,, Us old timers know your pretty much harmless.. It’s that one over sensitive dime dropping do gooder that will get you every time.
    Just trying to protect ya’ from yourself. We don’t want you hauled away for just being you… Take care..

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  32. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    “…stoning isn’t a healthy part of any non-violent demonstration.”
    Agreed. Got Arab Spring?
    But back to par force, it seems like it always starts with a snide remark, a cut, and then maybe a kick to the shins. Next thing you know, the daisy cutters are dropping out the backs of C-130s.
    I’m not trying to dissect Kent State all over again here, I am just trying to equate the Weathermen (on the left) with those on the right today who are making a lot of noise about the gov’t getting some “lead persuasion” if they get all tyrannical and such…

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  33. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Walt, you don’t need to worry about Jesus Keachie. He’s the real deal. You get what you get, and he could care less what anyone thinks. Good for him.
    But it’s good to hear that you’re concerned…(-;

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  34. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Armed guards in schools gets off to a great start, or similar word starting with “f”.
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/18/1469231/armed-school-guard-leaves-gun-in-student-bathroom/?mobile=nc
    37000 schools nationwide, open typically 180 days a year, what could possibly go wrong?

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  35. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    In a previous life I see Greg as a columnist in a southern newspaper, writing about why lynch victims had it coming, but he himself would NEVER particpate.

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  36. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    We’ve run out of Daisy Cutters, but we and the Russians have improved it. We created the Mother of All Bombs, so of course they invented the Father: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAB Big benefit compared to nukes, no radioactivity.

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  37. Gregory Avatar

    Keachie 10:46, a new low.
    Doug already is a character right out of 1984; inventing crimes and revising history, excising Oldspeak and in with the Newspeak.
    MA, the Weather Underground was formed to foment a violent overthrow of the government, and there’s a Grand Canyon between that and the rhetoric of fighting back if the government initiates violence. Going back to the Clinton years, Ruby Ridge and Waco both fed the militia wackos, with some good reason: they were both ugly overreaches by triggerhappy feds running roughshod over the Constitution.

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  38. Douglas Keacie Avatar
    Douglas Keacie

    And the Symbionese Liberation Front with cyanide laced hollow points for Marcus Foster and shot up banks and a funeral pyre house in LA was just the Left’s version of the Tea Party, back in the Disco 70’s? You are so predictable, Greg, plunk your magic plonger again, we are all so entertained!

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  39. Douglas Keacie Avatar
    Douglas Keacie

    What Greg fails to have ever understood is that the rank and file of those going to the antiwar demonstrations were not privy to the conversations of the leaders of the Weather Underground, and were not concerned about the WU manefestos, and frankly could care less. Those protestors were there to protest the war, PERIOD!
    At no point in time have I heard it stated that the four shot were active members of the the WU. Would Greg care to correct me with evidence from the time?

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  40. Gregory Avatar

    Every single sentence of “Keacie”‘s 9:20 is pointless, and every single sentence of his 9:27 is based on errors of comprehension, starting with the first one.
    The issue was Mandersonation’s claim the Weathermen were just incensed by the Kent State shooting of nonviolent protestors; they weren’t nonviolent, and the Weathermen were pledged to a violent overthrow of the government, period.
    Protesting the war can be done without setting buildings on fire and throwing rocks at the firemen and police who respond. Might that be appropriate? Maybe, but don’t bitch about being shot at afterwards. If you throw rocks at people with guns, they are likely to shoot, not pick up the rocks and throw them back.
    In a neonatal repeat, we have the Davis protesters who blocked people from getting into their bank by locking arms, in a big party, were warned about being pepper sprayed if they didn’t break it up, and then whined about being pepper sprayed. Even our revolutionaries are wussies nowadays.

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  41. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    How ironic that no one wants to reply to the Glenn Beck city planning post. In short, Mr. Beck is proposing exactly the type of new urbanist development, with commercial mixed-use building, higher density housing, car free town centers, small businesses in the storefronts, innovation and tech centers, green building, renewable energy designed in, that he is railing against was he says every urban planning effort is a sign of creeping Agenda 21. So why is it if a community like this can be build as a Galt’s Gulch, it is independence, but if it is built in a city center it is communism? And don’t tell me because cities compel people to live in these environments; anyone who wants to move can if they don’t like density, and a Beck commune will go through the same zoning and planning process in Idaho as any other project would. So A 21 activists, you should be opposing Galt’s Gulch just as vigorously as you opposed a regional “Blueprint” or the original (and much better) plan for Loma Rica Ranch.

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  42. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    “nonviolent protestors; they weren’t nonviolent,” ~Gregory Goodknight~
    All of the protestors at Kent State were throwing rocks? The four who were shot were throwing rocks? Evidence please.
    Or, to save you the trouble about hunting for what isn’t there in a feeble effort to support your lies (based on your logic of always stating precisely what you intend, which you require from everyone else), here’s Wikipedia:
    “The Kent State shootings—also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre[2][3][4]—occurred at Kent State University in the U.S. city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.[5]
    Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the American invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.[6][7]
    There was a significant national response to the shootings: hundreds of universities, colleges, and high schools closed throughout the United States due to a student strike of four million students,[8] and the event further affected the public opinion—at an already socially contentious time—over the role of the United States in the Vietnam War.[9]”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

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  43. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Steve, what you are up against occurs often here:

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  44. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, if you’re one of a mob, and some of the mob are throwing rocks at guys with guns and setting fires, you’re part of a mob that is throwing rocks at guys with guns and setting fires.
    It’s clear from statements after the fact that many of the protesters assumed the National Guard had blanks, if anything, in their guns. Bad bet.

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  45. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 1020am – I’m not familiar with Beck’s proposal for a conservative community. But if it’s anything like the Citadel on which I posted, then the difference between such conservative communities and Agenda21 driven community planning is obvious and should be accessible even to a progressive.
    The Citadel will be a new planned community into which people will move/buy or not, knowing beforehand what the rules (CCRs) are. Agenda21 planning seeks to impose such new rules on existing communities already populated with different understandings of what property ownership would entail. A21 also seeks a universal imposition on its density standards and where humans will be allowed to live. And as I’ve advised the tin ears before, A21 does not need to be foisted under its own banners and marching band – as in Nevada County, progressives everywhere are imposing their ‘smart growth’ ideas.

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  46. Gregory Avatar

    “So why is it if a community like this can be build as a Galt’s Gulch, it is independence, but if it is built in a city center it is communism?”
    Do it with your money, it’s an oddity. Do it with my money, it’s an outrage.
    Regarding Loma Rica, I’m agin it because of the horribly conflicting land use; part of the reason for the lack of development is the airport noise signature and hazard shadow. Put lots of homes and businesses there and people will eventually be hurt. Badly.

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  47. Walt Avatar

    Dougy has gone off the deep end.(@9:20)
    The SLA was the “early version of the TP”
    Just what the Hell are you smoking?
    By your line of thinking ,the OWS was/is a harmless little quire group.
    Got a photo of a Tea Party person throwing a rock through a business window? ( GOOOD luck with that. NO photo shop allowed We know you would do it just for the sake of pushing the argument)

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  48. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    “if you’re one of a mob, and some of the mob are throwing rocks at guys with guns and setting fires, you’re part of a mob that is throwing rocks at guys with guns and setting fires. ” ~Gregory Goodknight~
    And that makes you a legitimate target for lethal fire? Well Greg, if you use a highway, and drunks use a highway, then you’ve made yourself a legitimate target for a headon. Some students hit weren’t even part of the demonstration.

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  49. Gregory Avatar

    “to save you the trouble about hunting for what isn’t there in a feeble effort to support your lies”
    I checked everything I wrote against the wiki before I posted. Perhaps if you’d quote one or more sentences you think were a “lie” we can figure out what your problem is.
    I suspect it’s your confusion of the term “unarmed” with “non violent”, and an inability to see rocks thrown or arsons as “violence”.

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  50. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    “Move along, nothing violent about the Tea party, this time”
    http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Tea+Party+signs%22&hl=en&lr=&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=jfD6UOz2BqzWiAKOzIAQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAA&biw=1600&bih=873#hl=en&lr=&tbo=d&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=%22Tea+Party%22+violence&oq=%22Tea+Party%22+violence&gs_l=img.3..0i24l10.43700.52769.0.54549.15.15.0.0.0.0.142.1761.0j15.15.0…0.0…1c.1.FzB0ILM1g44&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41248874,d.cGE&fp=2169850658cc63bc&biw=1600&bih=873

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