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George Rebane

Let me start by inviting our progressive pals to post links to reports of rightwing instigated voter fraud because nationwide the left is off and running.  The latest comes from Las Vegas where the unions are stuffing ballot boxes, voting for the old and infirm, and hauling their own members off their jobs to cast supervised votes.  Meanwhile legions of loyal lefties surround polling places (at minimum distances?) to do some last minute campaigning.

SEIU and ACORN (renamed) are prominent in the ‘vote early and often’ efforts.  And one candidate running for the state senate was told that he couldn’t vote because he had already voted – that was news to him.  More here

But the interesting part is the Left’s continued denial that any voter fraud is taking place by citing the dearth of successful court cases dealing with voter fraud.  Most readers know that bringing an obvious voter fraud case to court is difficult and expensive.  And if you make it, the Left’s justice system will seek to prosecute you as likely as the fraudsters.  Besides, why should an individual care, voting is a commons, and no one feels personally aggrieved – the pain is diluted over all of us.  We all recall the Black Panther squad during the last election threatening with clubs all whites who dared to approach a polling place frequented by blacks.  The whole thing was caught on video, and our Sec 8 Attorney General threw the case out.


To demonstrate voter fraud from the Right, we hear the Left cite the requirements for voter ID as a return to the Jim Crow days.  To prove your bona fides as a legitimate voter is intimidation and fraud to the mind of progressives.  And citizens going to observe polling places and vote counting, as provided for by law, are accused of somehow intimidating only those voting for Democratic candidates and causes.  Go figure.

Unions have no problem telling their members how to vote.  But woe be it to any employer who informs their employees what on the ballot is in the best interest of their jobs.  The Left considers that intimidation, while the Right considers that a responsibility (duty?) that the employer should fulfill.  As a worker with a brain, you would want to know what your company/boss recommends.  Because we all vote through a secret ballot, there is only upside in receiving that kind of information.

The same charges are brought in the media against organizations (mostly conservative) that want to check the voter rolls for the dear departed and the long gone.  That again is somehow only supposed to deny the Left their vote count, and in that they happen to be right.  Locally the Tea Party is sending its members to observe the voting processes and to reinforce the ‘voter integrity project’.  For this it is pilloried by every lefty with online access.

On the obverse, we know the advice that the unions have given their members has caused massive amounts of unfunded liabilities and debt to be laid on to thousands of government jurisdictions, and in the private sector the transfer of jobs overseas due to the cost of labor here.  To understand this insanity, we all have to remember that the Left considers profit a dirty word whose garner demonstrates greed and serves no benefit to society.  Jobs should be created solely as an excuse to pay those who often can do little more than fog a mirror.  Governments at all levels have hired ‘those who can’t’ by the hundreds of thousands.  And come election time, that itself is a systemic kind of voter fraud that goes totally unnoticed.

[Addendum] Locally, I wonder what a complete count in Nevada County will reveal.  Barry Pruett has done a sampling of the oldest cohort of our voters and reports on it here, and The Union’s 1nov12 edition has also written an article (paywalled) on voter rolls that cites Pruett’s work.  Using his sample of 400 oldest people on the county’s voter rolls, Pruett found 31 or a rate of 7.75% of those registered voters had died during the last 10 years.  And apparently two of them had cast post-mortem ballots.  From this experience Pruett concluded that “we have potentially hundreds of deceased individuals on our voter rolls locally, and thousands of deceased individuals on our voter rolls statewide.”

[2nov12 update]  Like clockwork, the Left’s spokesmen from coast to coast arise to pooh-pooh any concern about voter fraud.  Even some local worthies can be found doing their duty here in the hustings (see comment stream below).  Tonight Fox News did an extended report on 2008 voter fraud just in one state (Ohio), and it was enough to explain away the modest efforts to contain voter fraud during this election.  In that state irregularities were legion, and ACORN was extremely active to the point where their lackeys were registering and voting so many times they lost count – one guy on camera said he registered 73 different times.  Obama, of course, carried the state.  We may recall that efforts to clean the vote four years ago also met with derision and charges of voter intimidation from the Left.

Today Democrats and Republicans there and elsewhere have joined forces to monitor polls and vote counting to make sure that 2008 doesn’t happen again.  And as I said, that was only one state.  Meanwhile the local lefties are again in chorus (lawful poll watchers are labeled “poll police”) denying the problem exists, and calling to question the sanity and/or the intent of people here who want to help assure that our county’s vote is proper.

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84 responses to “Voter fraud getting into full swing? (updated 2nov12)”

  1. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Yes it is, but this afternoon I have to go choose which dog additional I shall be a God to. I’m not making this up, and it will take me some time to digest that which you have written, apparently I missed doing so the first time around, something must have come up. Looks worthy of at least and hour or two of carefully reading, and several days of contemplation, we shall see.

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  2. Walt Avatar

    Not going to happen Keester. ( answering “your” questions) Since you don’t have a problem making light, and disparaging a persons religion. ( we take using the Lords name in vain a little more seriously than you.) Obviously you must bare the mark of the beast.
    Now the good part.. Some union guys got busted red handed stealing Mitt signs.
    ” Ohio police arrested four men early Friday on charges of stealing Mitt Romney campaign signs that were found in a union-owned pickup truck, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported.
    The signs, some as large as four feet by eight feet, were allegedly stolen from private property and business areas in Wood and Lucas counties in northwest Ohio. They were believed to have been put up by the Northwest Ohio Conservative Coalition, the newspaper said. Ohio is a critical swing state in Tuesday’s presidential election.”
    And our Progressives like to say that unions are as pure as the wind driven snow, and never do anything to mess with elections.
    To be fair, there is big news out of Nevada. One person has be arrested for voter fraud. But since it was supposedly a “republican” it makes for “breaking news”. ( a nice dose of media bias, since Libby fraud is rarely even reported)
    That brings us back to the HBO “pig”. As shown above by “the marked one”, the “pig” gets a pass under the excuse of ” comedy “.
    And Steve…. There is no excuse NOT to have ID. Don’t forget that it was the all knowing, all mighty “O” that made the stupid remark about “57 states”. (Might want to check on that slip)
    And mostly Progressives fear an honest election practice of showing ID to vote.
    Leftys got real peeved when billboards showed up saying ” voter fraud is a crime”
    and ” One person ,One vote ” Leftys demanded they be taken down because somehow that was “voter intimidation”. Look that one up as well.
    LIBS need all the illegal votes they can get away with. from illegals voting, to just plane illegal votes from the grave. Remember ACORN? Naaaa no voter fraud there either. No need to prove who you are when casting a vote.
    Now get out there. Vote early and often. (Right Doug? LOL)

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  3. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    I know who said “57” Walt, I was yanking your chain.
    Bill Maher is a comedian…
    No one supports stealing signs, it is juvenile behavior; but whether done by D’s or R’s, its almost always an isolated incident.
    ACORN was no more guilty of voter fraud than a dozen Republican operations I could name, each, if true, equally stupid, but still statistically insignificant…
    And I will remember the everyone must have ID statement when the Chinese of the UN take over and they come for your guns and tattoo your ID on your neck, big boy….I’ll be right there saying, hey, see Walt supported this 🙂

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  4. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 325pm – even though I read many liberal outlets, I’m nowhere near as astute as you in digging out the dirt on “a dozen Republican operations” that were on par with ACORN on voter fraud. You probably have them at fingertip – if so, could you please share them with us (I don’t want to accidentally send money to the bastards).

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  5. Walt Avatar

    Things keep getting better and better in N.Y.
    Ol’ nanny Bloomers turned away the Nataniel guard.. Why you may ask? Because they HAVE GUNS!!!!
    Here is the story.
    http://nation.foxnews.com/bloomberg/2012/11/03/report-bloomberg-denied-national-guard-assistance-brooklyn-because-their-possession-guns
    I say let the citizens that do have them ( I don’t care how they got them ) shoot the looting vermin in the streets.

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  6. Walt Avatar

    Your gonna love this Steve… ACORN not guilty?
    http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
    You might like a little more light reading about
    “no” voter fraud.
    http://www.wadenapj.com/event/article/id/28614/group/Opinion/
    And many, many more just like this if you only care to look.
    But keep your head buried deep in the dark spot of your choosing.

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  7. Walt Avatar

    Want “O” to fix the borrowing problem?
    Start making him eat coal.( at least clean coal)
    That way, by the time the election is over, he
    will have crapped enough diamonds to put the nation
    on Easy St.
    It would sure beat the bull coming out of his mouth today.

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  8. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Seriously George, I thought you kept more current on the news. Perhaps the best example of systematic Republican voter fraud is the activity of Strategic Allied Consulting, which came to light in Florida, but spread to several other states, including Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, Oregon, Minnesota and California.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444752504578024903833678698.html
    “The Republican National Committee had urged state parties in Florida, Nevada, Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina to hire the firm for voter-registration efforts. The national party also gave state parties $3 million in total to pay the firm.”
    And of course even though the RNC severed ties with SAC, the ramifications are continuing…….
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/virginia-voter-fraud-case-expands-to-focus-on-gop-firm/2012/11/02/76285252-24eb-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html
    And lest you all say this was a one time event, the principle in the firm, Nathan Sproul, hand picked by the RNC to run voter drives, has been implicated in the same type of voter fraud activity in previous elections, and changed the name of his firm from “Sproul and Associates” and “Lincoln Strategy Group” to Strategic Allied Consulting to avoid association with past charges…..
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2012/0929/Potential-voter-registration-fraud-in-Florida-GOP-s-own-ACORN-scandal/(page)/2
    According to The Nation:
    “….Sproul’s alleged activities were uniquely worrisome. “So the difference between ACORN and Sproul is that ACORN doesn’t throw away or change registration documents after they have been filled out,” remarked Chris Cannon, a Republican lawmaker from Utah, who later lost his seat because of a right-wing primary challenge, during a congressional hearing on voter suppression. Indeed, many voter registration groups (including ACORN) have paid per-registration form turned in, thus incentivizing fake signatures—i.e., Mickey Mouse registering to vote. But this type of thing doesn’t actually result in fraudulent votes because Mickey Mouse doesn’t show up at the polls and try to cast a ballot. Destroying registration forms, on the other hand, means citizens who believed they were registered show up and could have been denied their vote.”
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/170198/gop-quietly-hires-firm-tied-voter-fraud-scandal-work-battleground-states#
    And although the above may be the most widespread recent fraud, there are other examples, such as the Republican Indiana Secretary of State….
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/02/04/418963/indiana-secretary-of-state-convicted-of-voter-fraud/?mobile=nc
    Or perhaps the voter fraud case currently being pursued against the staff of former Congressman Thaddeus McCotter……
    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9467
    To be clear, I think all voter fraud is reprehensible, but as many have noted, the incidents of voter fraud are less likely than being hit by lightning….even from Republicans.

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  9. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    By the way, I might point out that after many investigations of ACORN there have been no convictions
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_controversy

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 743pm – Thanks Steve, now we know the basis for your ‘both sides’ stance. As I would not venture onto an open field during a thunderstorm, neither would I belittle our own citizens volunteering their efforts to keep American elections on the up and up. I sure as hell would not accept a situation where foreign poll watchers were called in by one party or the other.

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  11. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    I love lefties when they start talking about their Constitutional rights. It’s cute. Like a 2 year old singing a little song they learned from their granny. They have no idea what they are babbling on about, but it is cute! From Steven F. -“.million (sic) of people do not have photo ID, do not need photo ID and should not have to get photo ID to vote.” Really Steve? Try buying a fire arm. A beer. Get on a plane. And soon, the precious free health care you lefties have gone on about for decades. I had to get SS numbers for my kids when they weren’t even a year old.
    Here’s a sample of what’s happening at the polling stations:
    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/11/03/breaking_naacp_takes_over_polling_station_advocates_for_president_obama_at_houston_polling_location
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/01/texas-woman-forced-to-cover-up-vote-bible-t-shirt-at-polls/
    “Electioneering would cover wearing a hat, a pen, a T-shirt or a sign that would indicate a position for a political party, candidate or a proposition,” said Watson.” I do hope Watson will take the stand and tell the world what position the T shirt implored one to opt for. Apparently if you went in with a T shirt that just said “vote” they would throw you out. And union T shirts are OK. I see how this works.
    And of course, from that well known ultra-right-wing news service –
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57539706/congressmans-son-resigns-after-voter-fraud-video/
    Love it – “the laws are designed to suppress the vote among groups that traditionally support Democrats.” Maybe you lefties could fill us in on these “groups”. Steve? Doug?
    Yes, boys and girls, there’s no voter fraud because we can shut our eyes and put our hands over our ears and not see or hear anything.
    How about the thousands of voters in Seattle that gave their address as the Democrat party office. Couldn’t anyone find them later. Not a one. No funny business there. All legal and legit.
    And of course, who can forget our fav –
    http://blog.heritage.org/2010/07/21/the-new-black-panther-party-evidence-on-voter-intimidation/
    What if the KKK got all dressed up in their finest and stood in front of the entrance at the polling station? What would our AG do then? I guess he’d have to see what color the skin was under the robes before proceeding.
    Life in the good ole USA. All fair and square.

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  12. Walt Avatar

    Hope you like crow Steve,, because what I’m serving up
    will have you passing feathers for a week. You might want to do a quick search
    before making statements you claim as fact. Like me to pass you the Catsup or Tabasco??
    “Nevada’s law banning cash bonuses for voter registrations has been upheld by that state’s supreme court despite an ACORN-backed legal challenge to its constitutionality.
    The decision upholds the 2011 criminal conviction of former senior ACORN executive Amy Adele Busefink for her role in a massive voter fraud conspiracy. Voter fraud, sometimes called vote fraud, election fraud, or electoral fraud, is a catch-all phrase coined by lawyers that encompasses a host of election-related improprieties.
    As I reported in my book, Subversion Inc., at least 54 individuals associated with ACORN have been convicted of voter fraud. (Table of convictions available here.)
    ACORN itself was convicted of voter fraud in Nevada last year in a case that arose out of the same set of facts as in the Busefink case.
    Las Vegas Judge Donald Mosley said the actions of ACORN made “a mockery of our election process.” Mosley called ACORN’s crime “reprehensible” and said it was “the kind of thing you see in some banana republic, Uruguay or someplace, not in the United States.”
    The case involved a conspiracy to provide illegal financial bonuses to voter registration canvassers for exceeding their daily quotas. Nevada law forbids the practice on the theory that such bonuses provide an incentive for canvassers to file bogus registrations.
    The court found that the Nevada statute “neither violates the First Amendment nor is unconstitutionally vague.” Busefink argued unsuccessfully on appeal that Nevada’s ban on “the payment of individuals based upon the number of voters registered” violated her free speech rights.
    This resounding affirmation of Nevada’s voter fraud law comes as photo ID laws nationwide come under attack by left-wing activists and their black-robed brethren. Many of the legal attacks on these electoral integrity laws are funded by Obama backer George Soros. Soros-funded advocacy groups Media Matters for America and the Center for American Progress have been working nonstop to undermine public support for common sense legislation promoting clean, honest elections.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/09/Nevada-Acorn-Conviction-Upheld

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  13. JesusBetterman Avatar

    There once was a fellow named Walt,
    Who did commence a weakish assault,
    When he ran out of ammo,
    He suddenly went clammo,
    And claimed he was never at fault.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    Well, at least now we know the sources people consult on the voter fraud issue, and how these report what really went down. Isn’t dialogue wonderful?

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  15. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    With fiends like Frisch and Keach, who needs enemas?

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  16. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    Yeah, how dare I consult sources like the Wall Street Journal, The Christian Science Monitor and The Washington Post….

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  17. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    When I could be quoting sources like World Net Daily, The Blaze and Free Republic. 😉

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  18. Walt Avatar

    Yur turn Steve,,, Now if you actually read those sites as well as other ( gasp!) Right leaning news outlets, you might actually get the real story. Not info that has been sanitized to help Owebama look good.
    Like where ever you got the word that ACORN was cleared of any wrongdoing.
    Your “source” sure got that wrong.
    But we know why your more than worried that Mitt will win.. ECO (ha)nonprofits
    are on the “free money” chopping block. You may need to go back to China to get your payche… I mean funding to keep the beaded curtains hanging.

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  19. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    Ray Stevens has a few thoughts on voter fraud. His grandpa voted Democrat from the grave: Details Here: http://youtu.be/WUEqh07E4dY

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  20. Russ Steele Avatar
    Russ Steele

    No Voter Intimidation?
    HOUSTON, TX – Friday afternoon at an early polling place located at 6719 W. Montgomery Road in Houston, NAACP members were seen advocating for President Barack Obama according to volunteer poll watchers on location at the time.
    According to Eve Rockford, a poll watcher trained by voter integrity group True the Vote, three NAACP members showed up to the 139 precinct location with 50 cases of bottled water and began handing bottles out to people standing in line. While wearing NAACP labeled clothing, members were “stirring the crowd” and talking to voters about flying to Ohio to promote President Barack Obama.
    After watching what was occurring, Rockford approached Polling Supervisor Rose Cochran about what she was seeing.
    “I went to the polling supervisor and let her know that it was not appropriate that they were in the building handing out water. She ignored me. I repeated my statement. She told me that she would handle it. She did nothing. I then went to the assistant supervisor and he stood up, walked over to another table and then sat down. I then walked into the waiting room and they were reloading another dolly with more cases of water,” Rockford said in a True the Vote incident report.
    After handing out water and advocating for President Obama, the NAACP members started handpicking and moving people to the front of a long voting line inside the polling place according to the incident report. After multiple complaints from voters about the line cutting, Rockford received a phone call from downtown telling her to “stand down.”
    “All of the sudden one of the clerks, Dayan Cohen, said that someone wanted to speak to me on the phone. It was someone from downtown. I got on the phone and she said she was from downtown and that I needed to stand down and that it was okay for the NAACP to be within 100 ft. and they could hand out water. I told her that the NAACP was inside the building, wearing the NAACP clothing and caps and were handing out water and moving people from the back of the lines to the front of the lines,” Rockford said.
    At this point, NAACP members were instructed to turn their clothing inside out, which they refused to do and said they weren’t going to stop their actions inside the polling place. Their behavior and actions to move people to the front of the line continued for the rest of the evening. Texas State Representative Sylvester Turner, a former Texas NAACP leader, was also seen outside the building talking with voters.

    No Sir, none to be found, unless you are looking for it like the Voter Integrity Project.

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  21. George Rebane Avatar

    Administrivia – I unpublished a bunch of nonsensical mudballs here. They finally got to my kidneys. No one will miss them.

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  22. JesusBetterman Avatar

    So why wasn’t this deleted? “With fiends like Frisch and Keach, who needs enemas?”

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  23. Larry Wirth Avatar
    Larry Wirth

    Chill, sock puppet- just a couple of typos…

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  24. JesusBetterman Avatar

    Then fine, print the correction, or find yourself “logged in ” permanently on farstars.blogspot.com, as Walt is already.

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  25. Steve Frisch Avatar
    Steve Frisch

    I think it is simple Jesus……calling people shit is OK for George’s friends……

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  26. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George you forgot to boo potty mouth Frisch.

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  27. L Avatar
    L

    Ok, Haysus: “With friends like Frisch and Keach, who needs enemies?” Like it better now? And Mr. Frisch, the reference wasn’t to digestibility but to indigestibility of your coda.

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  28. George Rebane Avatar

    PJTV’s little piece on 2012 elections and voter fraud is informative and entertaining.
    http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=509&utm_source=PJTVDaily&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=2012election

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  29. Jesus Betterman Avatar

    That would be HayZeus to you Mr. L, and thanks for the correction. BTW I appreciate the form of the original, just not the content.

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  30. Jesus Betterman Avatar

    For George,
    What do you call a Black Forest cookoo clock that features a mariachi band in miniature and is made in Mexico? (nothing like free trade, is there?)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    A Guacan-spiel.

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  31. Steve Wynn Avatar
    Steve Wynn

    Walt,
    How come your resources seem to be limited to the Fox channel? Is there somewhere else that we might find the same info as they seem to have a huge issue with credibility…..
    Thanks and I’ll look forward to seeing it!

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  32. Walt Avatar

    Steve E. is back? Well well well… One thing is for sure, this “Steve Wynn”
    isn’t the one from Vegas. You haven’t used that one for a while.
    But “limited to FOX”? Not hardly. Usually what I dig up and put up for all to see usually doesn’t show up on FOX until two to four days later.
    It’s not my fault Progressive propaganda snews won’t give you the whole story, if at all.
    Just like Liberal voter fraud. They don’t report it. But now that there have been an instance or two of ( WHAT!!!!????) a registered Repub. stooping to the same level, it’s headline news. ( Hell,,, they were only playing by “your “rules of fair play. NOPE,, don’t condone it one bit.)
    BTW,, ” Steve ” you may not like FOX, but you might want to see just which news source is top dog. Here is a clue… It’s NOT CNN, or MSNBC, CBS, etc.
    So if FOX had most of the “Conservative” viewership years ago, how come their numbers continue to go up? That’s right. More and more Leftys that want the real story are now watching FOX. Only dyed in the Blue LIBS stick to Leftist news.
    See how it worked out for Frisch? His “source” told him ACORN was off the hook and blamess for voter faud. How did that workout?

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  33. Steve Wynn Avatar
    Steve Wynn

    Sorry Walt, as you’re WRONG about the idenity as I despise Mr. Enos and I’m actually (legally named Winslow “Stephen” Wynn, so you can understand why I took my middle name as I got beat up a lot as a kid with that first name).
    How come New York State spent $19,000,000, and they found 7 illegal voters? These 7 were felons, or people who did not understand the rules and they had lost their right to vote and the thousands that were proported to be illegal, had issues with the cities having building market incorrectly or other typograpical issues, so my question is was that a worthwhile investment of money to find 7 with the spending of $19,000,000?
    I would tend to say NO…..

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