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“In fact, [climate change] has now driven our climate outside the range that has existed the last 10,000 years…” — Dr. James Hansen (from NPR)

George Rebane

TwoViewsThere’s a coordinated blitz to recover ground lost to climate change skeptics in the past couple of years.  The lost ground is uneven – in fact, in California there’s actually been a gain as the rogue CARB continues creating chaos – but there’s been enough doubt expressed by politicians across the country so that another application of bogus science is called for to shore up the politically correct belief systems that have recently shown some fraying at the edges.

And who but that intrepid NASA scientist Hockeystick Hansen himself has leaped into the very breach of the breech with a Washington Post op-ed piece, and a report purported to be published by the National Academy of Sciences (I couldn’t find it, and their search engine has no knowledge of a James Hansen.  Hmmm.).  But there’s enough in the political coverage (here and here) of ol’ Hockeystick’s re-emergence to piece together the elements of his current assault on the nation’s credibility.

RR readers have been exposed to his shenanigans in past years when he first introduced his notorious global temperature ‘hockeystick’ (here and here).  And, in addition to scores of scientists, tireless bloggers like Anthony Watts, Steve McIntyre, and our own Russ Steele have spent years laying bare the errors and lack of science that the AGW (anthropogenic global warming) crowd assembled by the UN has been inflicting on the world’s public policies.

Well, now Dr Hansen claims that all these extreme hot weather events we’ve had in the last few years are proof positive that they are caused by AGW.  BTW, the cold weather events during the same interval are just that, ‘weather’ and not climate change.  You gotta have a PhD to tell the difference.

And this time he’s not bringing up another collection of dodgy computer models like those that created the hockeystick.  No, now he’s appealing to established statistics and recorded historical weather data – you know, bell curves and all that.  Well actually it’s hard to tell what kind of statistics he’s using because the media are guaranteed to muck up what he really did.  All we know from the reports is that he compared data from the base period of 1951-1980 with data from 1981-2010 – two thirty-year periods from a (climate) process that changes in the order of centuries.  Best to watch the NPR video to get the gist of his arguments.

Assuming he carefully tallied up weather events of various intensities for the base period, he could then make a histogram that plots weather intensity (x-axis) against the number of such incidents for each level of weather intensity (y-axis).  He then fits a bell curve (Gaussian distribution) to this histogram.  Then he does the same thing for the 1981-2010 interval data, and lays the two bell curves over each other.  And by Jove, it appears that the most recent bell curve is visibly shifted to the right of the base period bell curve.

The extreme weather events are those represented by the right tails of the two bell curves (see Hansen’s figures in the video), and the most recent 30 years shows a higher number for any intensity level of weather events.  So there you have it, slam dunk, end of story, AGW is here, let’s get that cap n’tax legislation going again.


But not so fast.  There are a couple of huge assumptions that went into this little statistical hokus-pokus.  First, his sample intervals are too small to support the assertion that his thirty year tallies correctly captured the real distributions of the random weather processes which any given operating climate regime will contain.  In fact, skeptics point out that looking at data windows the size of a century or so reveals that 1951-1980 was an extraordinarily mild period in the world’s weather when compared with what came before.  Such alternating periods of intense and mild years are quite normal in a stable climate process that are longer than Hansen’s thirty year looks.

Second, he hasn’t told us what the normal variability is in such bell curves as we slide a 30-year window from, say, 1850 to 2000.  We know that year by year such bell curves will shift left and right, and get wider and narrower.  (Here we’re looking at the auto-correlation of the intense weather process that he’s reporting on, but that’s getting too techie for the scope of this post.)  Finally, we know that he has included wildfires as ‘weather events’ without acknowledging the ongoing and insane forest fuels build-up policy of the US Forest Service, and the increased use of wildlands by the public.  These factors have increased significantly between the two 30-year study periods.

In sum, we haven’t even gotten to the more seminal factors that argue for 1) man-made climate effects, and 2) whether we actually know how to purposely, and without doing greater harm, alter climate in a desirable direction.  For example, we know that historically higher temperatures don’t go in lockstep with atmospheric carbon levels as claimed in the public policy (read political) arena.  The main political thrust of UN’s fraud-weighted International Panel on Climate Change  continues to be the implementation of the UN’s frequently denied Agenda21 through frontal attacks like California’s AB32.  These are now being rammed down our throats by CARB, and the more nefarious ‘sustainability’ and ‘smart growth’ projects fostered by the various worldwide ICLEI (‘International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives’) chapters of which over 500 are in the US, with California claiming 100 of them.

Exit question:  Is Nevada County getting ready to set up its own ICLEI chapter, now formally renamed as ‘ICLEI – Local Governments for Sustainability’?  (Gotta hide that “International Council” stuff else the natives start getting restless.)

[7aug12 update]  For completeness, here is Anthony Watts’ response to the latest from Hansen.  And Fred Krupp, president of the Environmental Defense Fund, argues (celebrates?) in the 7aug12 WSJ that there is ‘A New Climate-Change Consensus’ between skeptics (mostly conservatives) and true believers (mostly liberals).  To the mix we now add the recent work by Richard Muller, former skeptic and UC Berkeley physicist also cited by Krupp, who has reanalyzed the historical temperature data and fit some new regression models to it that show a recent increase of temperature.  He does no climate physics to identify contributing factors, let alone their magnitudes, to his temperature derivations, and simply concludes that the rise is overwhelmingly anthropogenic in origin since what else could it be.

[Technical Appendix]  A more informative and defendable approach to investigating the imputed increase in bad weather incidents is to look at them in terms of arrivals, and then compute the probability of a given number arriving in, say, a recent time interval.  I hope the non-technical readers haven’t rolled their eyeballs yet, because understanding this approach is very accessible.

Let’s start with a slight detour by baking a raisin cake.  Suppose we intend to bake a raisin cake in a standard 8x8x2 inch cake pan.  The volume of this cake will be 128 cubic inches.  The recipe calls for a cup of raisins, which here we’ll count out as 300 raisins.  We pour the raisins into the gooey batter, mix everything thoroughly, and stick the cake in the oven.  Out comes a beautiful raisin cake that has an average density of 300/128 = 2.34 raisins per cubic inch.

Now the raisins are distributed randomly as a result of our pouring the raisins into the gooey batter in the mixing bowl and turning on the mixer.  If we cut off a 4×2 inch piece measuring 16 cubic inches, we’d expect to find about 16×2.34 = 37.5, or about 38 raisins in that piece.  I said ‘about’ since the actual number of raisins will vary, because that number is really what’s called a random variable – there may be more or fewer raisins in another 16 cubic inch piece we cut from the cake.

An important and interesting question to ask at this point is, ‘What is the probability that we’ll find x raisins in a given volume V of the cake in which the expected number of raisins is λ (Greek letter lambda)?’  Here our example volume was V = 16 cu in, and λ = 37.5.  Skipping a bunch of mathematical details, the answer to the question comes from a formula called the Poisson distribution, which expresses (please, nobody panics!) P(x), the probability of finding x raisins as

PoissonPDF
The x! term is the factorial which is illustrated by the example 3! = 3*2*1 = 6.  Also, it turns out that 0! = 1 by definition.  The natural base (a property of our universe) e = 2.718… .  So if we wish to know what is the probability that our 16 cu in piece has only x = 20 raisins in it, we would just plug into the formula and compute (easy to do on a spreadsheet that has Poisson function built in).

PoissonExample
So the chances of finding exactly 20 raisins in that volume of cake is mighty slim, as you would expect.  A more useful question might be ‘what’s the probability of finding at least 20 raisins in our piece of cake?’  This is computed as the complement of the probability of not finding zero, one, two, …, or nineteen raisins in the piece.  Or P(x ≥ 20) = 1 – [P(0) + P(1) + P(2) + … + P(19)].  If you go through the calculations, you’ll find that P(x ≥ 20) = 0.999, almost a certainty that you’ll find 20 or more raisins in a 16 cu in piece of cake.

In a similar manner, we can use the formula to find answers to such questions about the raisins in various sizes of pieces in various quantities, or within various limits like, say, ‘what’s the probability that the number of raisins found in a 25 cubic inch piece is between 50 and 75?’ – now using a λ = 25*2.34 = 58.50, the expected number of raisins in 25 cu in, the answer is 0.84 or about 5 out 6 chance.  That’s all good and well, but what’s it have to do with severe weather incidents and climate change?

To answer that let’s trade in raisin cake volumes for time intervals, and the number of raisins for the number of specifically defined severe weather events.  If we take a sufficiently long (think credible) time interval such as, say, from 1850 to 1950, and count the number of, say, known hurricanes observed in the Atlantic during that time, we’ll get an average hurricane incidence or arrival rate of so many hurricanes a year.

If we now assume that the same weather process that operated over the 1850-1950 ‘control interval’ is still in operation today – in other words climate has not changed significantly since 1950 – then we can use the Poisson distribution formula to compute the probabilities that we would have seen the actual recorded number of hurricanes (or any other ensembles of weather events) during the recent years.  This will give us a definite level of confidence on what has or has not happened to climate.

We can also compare such recent probabilities to those that occurred for similar spans of years in the control interval.  I would venture that such probabilities are not sufficiently different to cause any reasonable person to become worried that some fundamental climate process has changed markedly to give the results computed for the last thirty year interval.  And that’s the proper way to do the analysis, and avoid the synthesized pyrotechnics generated by Dr James Hansen.

I invite people – Anthony Watts?, Steve McIntyre? – who have the data, and have studied the parameters of severe weather events, to perform this analysis and write a report that would be much more revealing than the one described by Dr Hansen.

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155 responses to “Hockeystick Hansen Strikes Again (updated 7aug12)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    Paul@10:25
    Did you read the whole report? The issue is insuring that the wells are properly cased to the proper depth. That is a technical issue, that any credible driller will address. I agree that some regulation and inspection necessary at the state level to insure that driller are professionals and following industry practice. We do not need more federal regulations.
    Why state and not federal regulations. Because every geological formation is different. While there may be shallow water in New York, that water may not be present in any other state. Thus a one fits all regulation will only be an obstacle to efficiency and effectiveness.

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  2. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, it’s still an unapproved draft report from one guy in the USGS, who has a vested interest in getting the regulations he proposes into the books, as provided by an activist organization.

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  3. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    This is the reports origin. Where do you get the “one guy” theory? What is his “vested interest” and where do you read that? . It’s the official USGS response to the proposal not an unfinished draft. It’s an uncharacteristic stretch for you to make those unfounded assumptions.
    U.S. Geological Survey, New York Water Science Center Comments on the Revised Draft Supplemental Generic Environmental Impact Statement
    Here’s one for you Russ
    http://www.propublica.org/article/scientific-study-links-flammable-drinking-water-to-fracking
    “For the first time, a scientific study has linked natural gas drilling and hydraulic fracturing with a pattern of drinking water contamination so severe that some faucets can be lit on fire.”

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  4. TomKenworth Avatar

    Just so you understand that I am busy with other items, I’ll simply lay out some history for you here: http://farstars.blogspot.com/2012/08/higher-ed-in-california-history.html
    The Doofus on KFBK attempted to equate UC System campuses with the State University system, because they had similar names, {but only since 1959) and both were state funded, a position I’m sure poor boy scholarshipped through Harvey Mudd must have treated himself to with relish. More on this later, and where is my podcast, I want a copy, L. W. GoodNugget says it exists (“There’s a podcast.”)? Meanwhile, go enjoy the fair!

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  5. TomKenworth Avatar

    But let’s facpolitics and centralized controle it. This arguement isn’t about do-able science and engineering. It’s about politics and centralized control over peoples lives by the energy monopolies, who want to keep things just the way they are, with them in control. The idea that every yahoo out there might be able to thumb his or her nose at what is draining every increasing amounts of their net income, just freaks out those on the right.
    If you can figure out how to drill sideways, four miles down, and you can figure out how to lower a rover on a planet 20 million miles away, you sure as hell can figure out how to make cheaper than carbon emitting fuels solar panels. If the USA government were to put a $100,000,000,000 in gold bars prize on the individual or firm or government worldwide that developed such panels, turning over non-exclusive but complete rights to the USA government, you could bet that it would be done, and fast. It would be the best 100 billion the Feds had ever spent. Unfortunately, Big Energy and their lickspittle lackeys will see to it that it never happens, and anyone individual who comes close, privately, will most likely simply disappear, along with all their notes, prototypes, etc.
    Unless, of course, they are very careful, say nothing until it is all working, and then spam the web with all the details on the day they first walk their agent into the Patent Office, to begin that process. How many moles does Big E maintain in that office? Probably willfind out in 200 years.

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  6. TomKenworth Avatar

    “But let’s facpolitics and centralized controle it”
    should be:
    “But let’s face it, politics and centralized Big Energy firms control it.”
    ( at that point in time, my typing must have totally over-run some other process my computer was doing. Glasses back in the car, still)

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  7. Gregory Avatar

    “Doofus on KFBK attempted to equate UC System campuses with the State University system,”
    That was not at all an issue. Doofus who called in tried to equate a US labor union program to find 2.7 gpa (or better) high school grads who were illegal aliens and committed to “social justice” to give them s couple years worth of a college education to being a balance with the UC’s having business departments.
    Really? That was the funniest thing I’ve heard all week!

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  8. TomKenworth Avatar

    There was no question that the Doofus controlling the slider was attempting to further the disrespect higher ed in this state. What I pointed out was that our economy consists of businesses and labor, and yet, while in private and public universities and colleges we find many, many, well funded Schools of Business, we hard hard pressed to find even Departments looking at our economy from the viewpoint of the employees. “Committed to social justice” is a bad thing? Is that somehow worse than being, “committed to the free enterprise system?” The latter might well be a qualification for admission with a scholarship to a School of Business. It was at least somewhat apparent that for the youth admitted into this program, that, while they would receive credits, they would still have to get admitted into the regular campus at UCLA to be able to make anything out of them.
    Additional things that people in science have been able to build, and still can’t crack solar? Give me a break.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/09/us-cybersecurity-gauss-idUSBRE8780NJ20120809

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  9. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, there’s one guy in the USGS whose name is on it, and it’s a draft, meaning it isn’t official, and ewg.org is an activist site, not Federal.
    Just because one guy in the USGS wants certain things to be done doesn’t mean the USGS has given it their seal of approval.

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  10. TomKenworth Avatar

    Waiting for the first Big One with fracking plastered all over it is like waiting for the next mass shooting. Aurora, Sikhs, who’s next?
    http://www.esa.org/esablog/ecology-in-the-news/increase-in-magnitude-3-earthquakes-likely-caused-by-oil-and-gas-production-but-not-fracking/

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  11. TomKenworth Avatar

    BTW, again, the amazing disconnect between “fracking” and the later reinjection into the earth of excess fracking fluid that returns to the surface, just boggles my mind. They may be two “separate” events, but you don’t get the need for the second (disingenuously here described as the causal agent, not fracking, “oh please, fracking is just fine”) without doing the first. This is much like declaring that inserting semen has nothing to do with conception, it just happens to occur nearby. Classic Compartmentalized, (I hesitate to use the next term) Thinking!

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  12. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    It is the official response to the request for an environmental assessment. How can that be more clear? Please show me where it was com[piled by one personal to justifies your assumtion that it’s an “unapproved draft report from one guy in the USGS, who has a vested interest in getting the regulations he proposes into the books”.

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  13. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, it clearly says “draft”, which means it hasn’t been “released”. There is one person’s name put to it, and checking his linkedin page, with four whole connections and no educational background listed, it’s unclear just how much weight to give it.
    http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-williams/18/670/87/
    Coincidentally, there’s a new Muller (you like him) interview where he weighs in on the subject…: “Well, I totally don’t support the old kind of fracking, but I think clean fracking – in which you just fine the hell out of the companies if they spill anything or upset the water tables – they can fix it up – compared to developing really cheap solar, developing really clean fracking, I think, is relatively straightforward.”

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  14. TomKenworth Avatar

    As long as companies can simply write off as “expenses” any fines they incur, legislated or regulated, oil, gas, and coal will just go on their merry ways, as witness BP and the Deepwater Horizon rig and how it was written off, including the fines.

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  15. TomKenworth Avatar

    And of course there is the advertising smoke screen in which Chevron claims they poured 8 billion back into the country, but in the background, they’re trying to sell the Richmond refinery to China, moving it there, and driving up the gas prices for Californians.
    http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2012/08/07/9317/q-chevron-richmond-refinery-fire-and-higher-gas-pr/

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  16. George Rebane Avatar

    TomK 1037pm – there is every reason to believe that Chevron has reinvested massively in the US, but they would have done more if the US were not becoming a nightmare for energy companies to do business in.
    California has already lost attraction to any legitimate business that cannot make money from its economic insanity. From the recent demonstrations in council chambers against oil refineries, hell yes Chevron wants to get rid of its California holdings. And it is Californians, not the energy companies, that make California gasoline expensive.
    The tipping point is now behind us, and that you and yours don’t have a clue as to how you have destroyed this state is reason enough for everyone to leave who can. There is not a shred of sanity coming out of Sacramento, and IMHO all of you progressives in the hustings here are now the democratic majority that provides no plan for recovery, and every new initiative to take us downward faster.
    Your philosophy has now reached the bankrupt level where you will have to start taking private property at gunpoint to pay for all of those on the dole. And in my view, most of the state’s employees are effectively on the dole along with those Californians on welfare who reliably vote for whomever promises the biggest monthly check.

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  17. TomKenworth Avatar

    My philosophy and where the business leaders of this state, country and world have taken us, are two entirely different things. The highest paid California State employees are athletic coaches at UC. Are you calling them welfare recipients? The next highest paid are all doctors who are heads of departments in the UC teaching hospitals. Are they welfare recipients?

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  18. TomKenworth Avatar

    On the Richmond refinery fire. We’ve had banks too big to fail, and now we have fires too big to call arson. If wonder if the guy who jiggered the computer software is still alive…

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  19. Gregory Avatar

    “My philosophy and where the business leaders of this state, country and world have taken us, are two entirely different things.”
    Thank goodness. Imagine if the state, country and world were run according to the views of retired public school teachers from San Francisco with unconstrained left wing lack-of-sensibilities and overactive imaginations… the movies “Brazil” and “Idiocracy” are all that come to mind. In the case of California, it’s a shambles with only the first “Kenworth” (Keachie) steps of out of control spending, a punitive regulatory climate and lack of consequences for failed schools and school districts.

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  20. George Rebane Avatar

    TomK 1218am – These conversations are so hard with you. Take from my 1101pm, “… most of the state’s employees are effectively on the dole along with those Californians on welfare …”. How on earth did you conclude that this statement asserted that the higher and more productive state paid employees are on welfare?! Professors of medicine teach physicians which society sorely needs (now more than ever with Obamacare), and university coaches create profitable circuses which pleasurably vacuum the pockets of the alumni and the general population. It is ever a wonder how the progressive mind parses and ponders.

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  21. TomKenworth Avatar

    According to the logic of Rebane and L.W. GoodNugget, I should be flat broke and on the dole. Instead I do receive money from an account which I paid into 50% up front deducted from my salary, and 50% paid into by the school district IN LIEW of paying a higher salary to begin with. A deal is a deal, so deal with it. I also continue to do new and creative endeavors, in the finest tradition of free enterprise. Here is some work I did for a recent client. http://www.swapntalk.com/Minatures4Sale/FirstBatch/ We also grow food, and will be doing a lot more of that soon, since corn no longer grows in the midwest, , thanks, deniers. Oh, and the native grasses are being replaced by woody scrub plants, due to too much nitrogen from polluting cars possibly? Apparently they emit a compound that is readily absorbed by the woody plants, which are replacing the tall grasses native to the region, as the woody plants’ roots grow deeper and steal the water..

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  22. TomKenworth Avatar

    BTW, Liew GoodNugget, I also paid into social security from my freelance activities down through the years, but under current laws, will never collect a cent as a teacher, due to special interests deciding teachers shouldn’t be rewarded for stepping outside the classroom and doing additional legitimate free enterprise work. In short, the taxpayers said, “let’s make sure our teachers won’t get rich, and keep them out of the marketplace, too many competitors already.” Or maybe more succinctly, “No Uppity Teachers!”
    Actually did have one colleague whose sideline vinegar business took off so well he left teaching altogether, well before retirement.
    In lieu of more postings today, have an Obama time at the Faire!
    Oh, and do keep on working on your plans for fixing the economy, and do the projection for just how it will all play out, for everyone. So far, your plans seem to include anyone without a stash being shoved off the cliff. That’s not acceptable, and certainly won’t make Romney electable.

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  23. TomKenworth Avatar

    “the higher and more productive state paid employees” and just where do you draw the cutoff point? Which employees do you feel are unproductive and therefore on welfare? Are the profs in the business schools of the UC system above or below the line. How about Robert Reich at Berkeley? Could it just be that you don’t like what some state employees are paid to do, so you smear them with the tar and feathers of “welfare leeches?” In that case, Rush Limbaugh is an octo-duodecahedron fourth dimensional welfare queen. May his tessarac collapse and soon.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Rectified_tesseract2.png

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar

    Gregory
    It is the working document in the environmental review process required by state and federal law. It is required for approval of this project much like EIR’s (commonly called draft EIR’s) are required in California to recognize and suggest mitigation for recognized problems. Call it what you want. Of course it’s an “approved ” document and is an official and legally required document. Can you tell me what information you have to accuse the writer of being a rouge individual and what justifies your statement that he “has a vested interest in getting the regulations he proposes into the books, as provided by an activist organization.” Where did you get that information or did you make it up to fit your theory?

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  25. Gregory Avatar

    Paul, can you find it on the EPA website?
    “Of course it’s an “approved ” document”
    Then it should be available from a public agency. LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT TITLE. “Revised draft Supplemental Generic Environmental Impact Statement”
    Try to find something that is titled something like “Final Environmental Impact Statement”.
    1) The draft version we see is courtesy an activist website, not the EPA.
    2) If the guy whose name is on it is the only author, he has a vested interest in seeing his work upheld. If it gets tossed out by superiors, he is not likely to get a get a good review.

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  26. Paul Emery Avatar

    You would have had better luck going to the USGS (United States Geological Survey) site. They are the ones who authored the report
    The EPA had nothing to do with this. Williams works for the USGS
    Here are some details about John Williams that you missed
    John H. Williams has a BA in Geology from Colgate University, and a MS in Geosciences from Pennsylvania State University. John currently is the Groundwater Specialist for the U. S. Geological Survey Water Science Center in New York, and is responsible for technical oversight of the Survey’s groundwater program in the State.
    https://profile.usgs.gov/jhwillia/
    John has provided technical assistance to the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency, Army Corp of Engineers, and U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission on investigations of contaminated fractured-bedrock aquifers. He has worked with the Geological Survey of Canada in the investigation of transboundary aquifers in New York and Quebec.
    In addition, John is an integral part of the geophysical training and technology transfer program of the Office of Groundwater – Branch of Geophysics. He has provided support in borehole geophysics to Survey offices throughout the U. S. and in the United Arab Emirates. He recently co-taught a borehole geophysics workshop in northern Iraq for the Iraqi Central and Kurdish Regional Governments that was supported by the U. S. Department of Defense.
    Over the past several years, John has made presentations on water-resource issues related to shale-gas development to the U. S. Department of Energy, U. S. Environmental Protection Agency, National Ground Water Association, North American Energy Marketers Association, Empire State Water Well Drillers Association, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection, professional associations of geologists, geophysicists, and engineers, universities, and environmental groups. He also has provided testimony to the New York State Assembly and New York City Council on these issues.”
    Here is his report that was the basis for his response
    http://ny.water.usgs.gov/projectsummaries/CP30/Marcellus_Presentation_Williams.pdf

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  27. Gregory Avatar

    USGS is of course what I meant and correctly typed a number of times.
    While you didn’t actually find a released version of the draft you were saying was final, the slideware you found was even better. The last page shows a number of activist sentiments (No Fracking, no fracking with NY water) that seems to indicate he’s not exactly a neutral scientist in the matter.

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  28. Gregory Avatar

    George 08:41 AM
    Perhaps we can agree that BA anthropologists trying to teach high school computer science without significant work in the subject are effectively on the dole.

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  29. Gregory Avatar

    “Can you tell me what information you have to accuse the writer of being a rouge [sic] individual”
    Going rouge… is that like lipstick on a pitbull?
    Sorry, Paul, but I made no accusation of the author being a rogue. Only an implying of being fallible and opinionated, like everyone else. More to the point, there remains no good reason (including anything in his reports as he’s far more sober than you or the activist site you were first linking to) to stop fracking. It’s here to stay in the absence of hard findings to the contrary.

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    Gregory 330pm – Don’t exactly who the BA anthropologist would be, but I do agree it is a stretch to make that curriculum connection; unless ‘high school computer science’ was the name of a course in which you learned to use a couple of MS Office apps.

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  31. TomKenworth Avatar

    That would be B.A. plus 90 units, 18 of which were in computer science for educator classes, plus four years experience selling hardware and software, and experience with computing dating back to 1965, look up Keachie and Goines, but remember who really figured out the application Goines miss-remembers as his own. I figured out how it would be useful,and explained it to him and the rest to get the manpower to enter the data.
    Poor GoodNuggets. If it doesn’t come stamped with an official degree, it can’t possibly work. The Wright Brothers never attended an aeronautical school, so of course they couldn’t fly. Trust me L.W., if politicALLY CORRECT SFUSD could have found anyone one other than a white male who even had the slightest clue as to how to connect and operate computers, they would have. Essentially, I was both the pick of the litter, and the only one applying, and in fact was invited to apply by my first principal, when he found out what I knew. If you had ANY real concerns about public education, YOU could have gone and gotten a credential and brought a lot to the classroom. Was the pay scale too low for you? Was the work too degrading for a Harvey Mudd graduate? Why didn’t you step up to the plate then, instead of being such an _______ now?
    As for what I taught, it was initially BASIC and Pascal, and a couple of computer literacy courses, using MS Works, and some early multimedia items I was able to get donated. I also wrote grants and got some Fischer Technics robotic kits donated, which the kids loved. In time BASIC was replaced by C++. Of course times have changed, and now the curriculum looks like: http://lhs-sfusd-ca.schoolloop.com/cms/page_view?d=x&piid=&vpid=1275747746574 and I believe a teacher has continued the robotics side of things, and has sent a team or two out into the national competitions.
    http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/education/2012/05/robotics-spark-youths-math-science-interests
    In reading this article it warms the cockles of my heart to see that an idea I proposed over 20 years ago has finally come to fruition. They’ve established a school on Treasure Island for the ghetto kids to have a chance to completely leave the “hood” and feel free to experience a brand new lifestyle. I originally suggested ferries to get them there, but buses are fine.
    Way back when, before events derailed the train, I would have gone on to finish the MA in anthro and then gone on for a doctorate, specializing in ethnographic film making, and in a way, I’m doing that today, just locally. I am proud of the students I gave a good start to, and the countless hours I spent learning on the job, over and beyond the full time job of teaching, in order to advance our kids. When it comes time up at the Pearly Gates, I have no qualms about whether or not my life was well spent. He who spends his time constantly belittling others, may not be so confident. A public apology from HUWLW Greg Gregory Goodknight is still in order (and he insists on adding to the list daily), or those nuggets will roll after him forever.

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    Fracking update from Watts Up With That
    Frohlich, 2012 found no correlation between fracking and earthquakes… NONE, NADA, ZIP, ZERO-POINT-ZERO…
    Most earthquakes identified in the study ranged in magnitude from 1.5 to 2.5, meaning they posed no danger to the public.
    “I didn’t find any higher risks from disposal of hydraulic fracturing fluids than was thought before,” says Frohlich.”My study found more small quakes, nearly all less than magnitude 3.0, but just more of the smaller ones than were previously known. The risk is all from big quakes, which don’t seem to occur here.”
    All the wells nearest to the eight earthquake groups reported high injection rates (maximum monthly injection rates exceeding 150,000 barrels of water). Yet in many other areas where wells had similarly high injection rates, there were no earthquakes. Frohlich tried to address those differences.

    If water injection cause earthquakes, then it must cause them everywhere and according to Frohich it does not happen.
    “It might be that an injection can only trigger an earthquake if injected fluids reach and relieve friction on a nearby fault that is already ready to slip,” says Frohlich. “That just isn’t the situation in many places.”

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    Golly, I do owe Doug Keachie’s sock puppet an apology; I chose Anthro as a placeholder because I’d mis-remembered Keach’s major as the equally unrelated Sociology and I didn’t want it to be a specific dig at Keachie. Not that the shoe wouldn’t fit.
    To teach high school math in California you pretty much need a BA/BS in Math, though a major in a math intensive discipline coupled with passing the non-trivial Praxis exam is another path. Computer science should be no different, and I’d expect someone teaching, for example, AP Computer Science to have the equivalent to BA/BS in Computer Science or Math.
    One take on what’s required:
    “In most computer science teaching certification programs, students pursue a bachelor’s degree in computer science but also take education classes.”
    http://education-portal.com/computer_teacher_certification.html
    Here’s one program aimed at a secondary CS credential, and while it might be light for someone wishing to be a practitioner, it’s a pretty good coverage of the subject:
    http://catalog.emich.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=3&poid=3002&returnto=265
    It is a shame that school administrators, if they can’t find someone actually qualified to teach the subject, will assign someone who is legally able to be the teacher (ie able to fill out the attendance report); it’s a tragedy when it’s a key subject like math.

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    Well spoken Greg, but that is now, not then. Again, if you were so concerned about the lack of qualified computer science teachers, why didn’t you become one? Schools make do, and school administrators make do with who’s available. And, I never taught math, except when I occasionally, as a sub prior to become a computer science teacher, did so, and also in post retirement as a sub, and as a tutor.
    As for filling out the attendance report, let’s add in sys admin for Novell 3.11 and then 4.11, for the whole school, as unpaid extra duties.
    BTW, why didn’t you bother to respond in the other thread where you got roasted in more detail? Do you really think I couldn’t go back and repost it?
    Actually, I’ve done better than that: http://farstars.blogspot.com/2012/08/response-to-gregory-goodknight.html

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    My bad, we are still in the same thread. I didn’t notice that out of all the recent comments, only this one went back a column.

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    Steele, it is wildly possible that in time lubing mama Earth may be seen as a way to prevent Big Ones from ever happening. In the meantime, little quakes where there had previously been virtually none, does seem to be a direct result of the lube job. The lawyers will have great fun if New Madrid opens up and some scientists even vaguely suggest that there is a connection to Oklahoma.

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    “if politicALLY CORRECT SFUSD could have found anyone one other than a white male who even had the slightest clue as to how to connect and operate computers, they would have”
    Doug Keachie (aka TK) that isn’t “computer science”. Computer science is real programming languages, algorithms, data structures. Operating systems. Boolean logic. A special case of discrete mathematics.
    “Schools make do, and school administrators make do with who’s available”. Yes, that’s also how gym teachers end up teaching math; thanks for letting all know that’s how you ended up ‘teaching’ computers.

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    I actually went back to school and filled in the blanks with the courses needed to be fully qualified to teach computer science, during my first year of teaching, and have the credential to prove it. You, on the other hand, apparently have never done diddly squat to prepare yourself for teaching by completing any credential that you have admitted to. Do you have a credential in anything? Thanks for your commitment to education, which appears to amount to kvetching from the sidelines, and moaning about the costs. If all the computer science and math majors choose to pursue careers outside of teaching, then maybe it says the tax payer is not willing to pay for what those talents can command elsewhere, and pass the laws requiring majors in a given field for teaching. These days most teachers do have the credentials for the fields they are teaching, and you can check this online pretty easily.

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    Ah gee shucks, looks like the charter schools are having a hard time complying with NCLB:
    http://www.charterconference.org/CACharter/2012/program/search_results.php?selection_id=4452261&gopage=80

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    NOw, if we are going to have a level playing field in California, we might want to review the situation in Milwalkee, WI, as in this draft report:
    “We close, however, with the assertion that we raised in framing this paper: that accountability for private schools carries with it the additional, and perhaps more fundamental, meaning than it does in typical public school systems. More than one hundred private schools serve nearly 20,000 students in Milwaukee, making the program approximately one-fifth the size of the surrounding public school district. As of 2010 the performance of students in each school is posted on the state’s website, making such outcomes as easy to gauge for prospective parents as nearly any other attribute. The city’s leading newspaper, moreover, ran front-page stories detailing each private school’s performance for the first time. The educational environment in Milwaukee, created in no small part by the voucher program, is one in which private schools quite literally compete for public support. The vast majority of these schools depend, in many cases entirely, on voucher money to exist. Although some public schools in Milwaukee close or are reorganized from time to time—and although such trends are increasingly common elsewhere (e.g., Enberg et al. 2011), suffice it to say that private schools that cannot attract students face the far greater likelihood, and perhaps even certainty, that they will cease to exist.
    In a real sense, then, the results we observe represent outcomes of an accountability regime in which the stakes could not be higher. Voucher schools in Milwaukee are now accountable not only to forces at work in the private educational market, but also to public regulation and oversight. This may limit the generalizability of our study to other, similarly intense conditions. But the law introduced in 2010 appears here to stay, along with the basic reality that private schools are entirely dependent on the market for the good each can uniquely provide. In that context, we might speculate that the effects we observe here may be sustained
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    over a long run in which schools, public and private alike, are brought increasingly to account for their performance.”
    http://www.aefpweb.org/sites/default/files/webform/MPCP_Accountability_Spring_2012_AEFP.pdf
    I’d love to know what Greg is doing to bring such accountability to California’s charter schools. It would be a good place for him to refocus his purpose.

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    I’m sure Keachie met the minimum standards for California teachers for every class he was assigned to. Let’s check the California Administration Assignment Manual:
    “Computer Science: If a class covers the general use of computers, the teacher should hold
    the supplementary authorization in computer concepts and applications or use a local
    teaching assignment option. Title 5 §80005(a) clarifies the authorization for the subject
    areas for service in departmentalized classes. An individual may be assigned to teach
    classes that fall within the broad single subject areas listed on their document. In Title 5
    §80005(a), the subject area of computers is listed under three broad subject areas:
    business, industrial and technology education, and mathematics. Since January 31, 2001,
    employing agencies may no longer choose any credentialed teacher to teach computers
    but assign an individual who holds a credential, teaching permit, or waiver in one of
    these three broad subject areas.”
    So Keachie, you have the “supplementary authorization in computer concepts and applications”?
    http://www.extension.ucr.edu/academics/certificates/supplementary_authorization_computer.html
    That looks to me to be about 4 years of work short of a BA/BS in Computer Science.

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  42. TomKenworth Avatar

    That is indeed the credential I hold, or at least the earlier version of the same thing. You can check it yourself, as I suspect you have.
    https://educator.ctc.ca.gov/esales_enu/start.swe?SWECmd=GotoView&_sn=E6qDMaOfaPtAasEpP4ZAkwZzm-F1bgpV.pFRWH3kaMhjLcsbWuBiulvSIo1uDUj9&SWEView=CTC+Search+View+Web&SWEHo=educator.ctc.ca.gov&SWETS=1344826989
    You as a voter are responsible for the fact that it does not represent four years of work towards the degree that you think should be a minimum requirement to teach the subject. Funny how nobody else is beating the drum with you.
    Now ______, explain if I have broken any laws, or if my school district has? I did not design the system, and I suspect that if the system required what you seem to think it should, computer science would not be offered as a subject in high school, or middle school. Are you down with that? How far behind in computer science would you like the USA to be? How exactly is it that students at HS all across the land are passing the AP exams in computer science, given the terrible situation in high schools as you see it. Would you like to trash the AP programs next? Busy boy!
    BTW, statewide, there are all of TWO (2) teaching positions open for full time teachers, in the state of California. Do note, I do not have the TCIS credential required for one of them. Do I have knowledge equal to it. Most likely. When was the last time you changed the hydraulic hose on a backhoe? Or wired a commercial building for electricity? Installed a sink or toilet? Shingled a roof? Worked on a car, or maybe even worked at a school that owned it’s own working jet engine, with colleagues in every tech specialty, from sewing to welding? Have you ever sewn your own backpacking equipment? Can you fix your own washing machine?
    http://www.edjoin.org/viewPosting.aspx?postingID=437891&countyID=37&onlineApp=1#requirements
    Also note, without an AP score of at least four under your belt, I rather doubt either Harvey Mudd or UC Berkeley would accept you into their computer science programs. You got in back when it was EASY.

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    BTW, I also passed the CBEST (who couldn’t!), got my CLAD, and have well over 200 of the 100 points needed for NCLB, between years of teaching, Mentor Teacher years (I was one), and college units taken in the CORE areas. Given a choice between Greg Goodknight, for all of his experience with computers, and myself, if there were a job open in computer science teaching full time at a public OR charter school, Gregory would not be qualified, tsk, tsk…lost again. You know Greg, this is getting rather old and stale, like AV fuel gone bad. You keep crashing.

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  44. TomKenworth Avatar

    Prior to the www on the Internet, I had plenty of training for the likes of Gregory Goodknight. More old chestnuts coming back to life:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.save.the.earth/koe7hG–9X8%5B1-25%5D

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    “I do agree it is a stretch to make that curriculum connection; unless ‘high school computer science’ was the name of a course in which you learned to use a couple of MS Office apps.” -GR 10 August 2012 at 03:49 PM
    George, Bingo.
    Keach, congratulations, the schools in California designed a “supplemental authorization” (not a credential) that insured they could have a minimal standard for teachers to keep a computer lab running. It is so far away from the single subject credentialing given math, science, English and other subjects as to not even be funny; like I said, get that supplemental authorization and you’d still be four years away from earning a BA/BS in computer science.
    Tell me, Lowell has an AP Computer Science offering. Do they have a “meathead” major with a supplemental authorization leading the class, or do they have a BA/BS Math credentialed teacher who can credibly teach an entry level college Computer Science class?
    Finally, high school kids who apply to Mudd don’t apply to any program, and they don’t declare a major until their sophomore year after they’ve already taken the first three semesters of every major possible there, math, physics, chemistry, engineering, computer science and biology. There aren’t quotas and they don’t think you know enough to choose until you’ve sampled everything. Nice try. Besides, I was offered an early admission there and UCLA (my backup), and never gave Berkeley a thought.
    No, it was never “EASY” to get into Harvey Mudd; it was designed from the start to be the hard core school of science and engineering of the Claremont Colleges, and the proof was the fact that Mudd took over from CalTech as the school with the percentage of graduates with PhD’s very early on, now a bit behind CalTech but remaining ahead of MIT.
    However, it was awfully easy to get into Cal in the dark ages, especially in one of the “Meathead” majors discussed in an earlier Rumination. Harvard, too.
    [PS I first overhauled an engine in ’76, and do the maintenance on the 520 cubic inch Teledyne-Continental I own. 12 spark plugs take time to clean and gap]

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    When I left Lowell, Art Simon took over. He was a regular math teacher, and most likely had what you were looking for, degree-wise. When I came to Lowell, none of the regular math teachers wanted the job, or they would have had it. This included not only the teachers at Lowell, but every teacher in San Francisco Unified, and in fact every teacher in the entire USA, as it was an open position.
    A “supplimental authorization” was and still is the ONLY “computer science” credentialialing available through the state. I’m reasonable certain that Art Simon or whoever took over for him has had to get one, even though they already had a standard single subject credential in math. I’ll leave it up to you to prove otherwise. Bureaucracies are idiots, as you well know, and once they’ve assigned a this to a that, they like to keep it that way.
    “and the proof was the fact that Mudd took over from CalTech as the school with the percentage of graduates with PhD’s very early on, now a bit behind CalTech but remaining ahead of MIT. ” ~Posted by: Gregory | 12 August 2012 at 11:38 PM~
    where are these stats located? Who compiles them? Some Meathead?
    I’d hazard a guess that you fly one of these three, without bothering to look it up, based on your previous comments about fuel usage:
    Beechcraft Bonanza
    Bellanca Viking (17-30 and 17-30A)
    Cessna 185
    And please note, that I never, ever claimed to have a 4 year degree in computer science. That’s your straw man, and everyone here knows it. Now go find another dead horse to beat, H.U.W.L.W zuchandbelladue MH!
    for the rest of you C’est Si Bon!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kTV4gysuYs

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    Keach, I never intimated you had anything other than a meathead degree, and everyone here knows it. And yes, the supplemental authorization is just a fig leaf for inadequate computer teachers in California schools. That was an underlying point.

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    And you sir, with your uppity attitudes, haven’t contributed one damn bit to changing the situation you profess to abhor. It seems obvious to me that you enjoy spreading contempt, much more than you enjoy doing anything about your perceived woes of society, so unjustly foisted upon you. I have met a lot of very bright people in my life, and been a teacher for at least four certifiable geniuses, and none have ever come even faintly close to your level social stupidity, all of them were way too smart to even think of going there.
    Frankly, I am very close to making a very nice compilation of your bon mots, and shipping them off to the alumni association, for perusal, and posting them with full and complete ID, tags for you on the web, so that you may be known far and wide for who you really are. You certainly have all the qualifications for an M.H. all right, such as might be granted by the College of William and White, which recently moved back to the USA.

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    Keach, your bizarre and myopic threat to escalate your defamatory harassments is noted.
    Otherwise, I do thank you for your forfeit, as you seem to have capitulated in your attempt to actually engage in a conversation over “computer science” in California classrooms and have instead collapsed into a pit of baseless ad hominem slanders.

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  50. TomKenworth Avatar

    No Greg, you lost way back when you tried to do the equivalent of drafting all premed grads into teaching middle school science. Curiously enough, I have known M.D.’s who were able to quit their practices and teach high school full time, apparently being less greedy than computer science gurus. You do a marvelous job of defaming yourself, with no help from me, but as an ardent admirer of human extremes and contradictions, I thought I’d spread your fame to your former classmates.

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