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George Rebane

[Correction: This is the submitted form of my column that appeared belatedly in the print edition of the 25may12 Union.  I was informed of the delay due to a rush of political columns and articles on the new marijuana ordnance.]

In this election year all the weird stuff we’ve been hearing about seems to be coming at us more loudly and from every direction.  Each piece by itself sounds like a purposed effort to drive America deeper into a place that most of us don’t want it to go; each piece sounds like the revelation of another quiet conspiracy at work.  And when you gather all the pieces together, they don’t look like separate pieces at all, but to many they appear to fit into one big concerted effort from somewhere by some people who are working together.

And what makes it even more curious is that the individual pieces have been promoted by people from all political parties – most certainly including Republicans and Democrats.  So we can’t just point our finger at one side and blame the whole thing on them.

We start with the International Democrat Union (idu.org) founded in 1983 by the likes of Margaret Thatcher and Republican Party National Committee’s John Allen, and joined by VPOTUS George HW Bush.  It is a self-declared union of ‘centre and centre right’ parties with high sounding principles that include abiding by the anti-constitutional UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and calls for unspecified obligations between nations.  Who knows what the IDU does, but it meets every four years near the Republican Convention.

FM 3-39.40Then we have the notorious UN Agenda21 initiative to which President GHW Bush signed us up (http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda21_00.shtml).  Reading its tenets and principles calls for a one world in which human activity is restricted to a fraction of the earth’s land surface, and everyone belongs to a wholesome, sustainable, inclusive, happy society of peacefully like-minded and sensitive people.  The progressive principles of this future UN-dominated world are being implemented through something called the ICLEI Global (iclei.org) which organizes “local governments for sustainability” and already has over 550 US cities as members.

Next we come to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 with its draconian Title X, Subtitle D.  There its anti-terrorism provisions give the President powers to do all kinds of spooky and unconstitutional things like constructing a gulag of stalags in the US for forcibly interning thousands of US citizens when the need arises.


People then point out that this goes along with President Obama’s promise to create a “Civilian National Security Force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military upon which “we cannot continue to rely on … to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.”  It doesn’t help that we hear of all kinds of federal regulatory agencies which today are training their own enforcement SWAT teams.  And on top of that comes the news that the feds have ordered a multi-year buy of almost half a billion rounds of 40 caliber ammunition of the kind used by domestic law enforcement agencies.

In the meantime, others call attention to what appears as a coordinated policy to bring the US to its knees by spending us into oblivion – an intended tactic by the hidden ruling elite to weaken the country so that it will be more compliant to joining other nations willing to surrender their sovereignty to the UN.  This claim is already in the works through the ongoing negotiation of ‘sneaky treaties’ covering submission to an international criminal court (making US leaders liable for prosecution), remitting offshore revenues for UN redistribution, UN small arms control/confiscation, forced funding the care of children in poor countries, and UN regulated outer space conduct.  All such treaties would be binding once accepted.

But wait, we’re not done yet.  Should there be any public resistance to this brave new Amerika, then FEMA, with its United States Police, is said to have already built and is staffing hundreds of ‘facilities’ to house mega-multitudes of anti-social activists and non-believers.  Some call these concentration camps, others say that they are simply for ‘re-educating’ the socially misguided.  What’s most interesting here is the discovery of a February 2010 Army field manual, FM 3-39.40 – Internment and Resettlement Operations that we can now download.  This 325 page tome, written for detaining foreigners and US citizens, makes for some real intense reading.

Finally, we recall that a ‘theory’ is a unified explanation of past observations and data that can also be used for understanding and predicting future observations and data, and by these predictions its validity is assessed.  Oh my!

George Rebane is an entrepreneur and a retired systems scientist in Nevada County who regularly expands these and other themes on KVMR and Rebane’s Ruminations (www.georgerebane.com).

[14may12 update]  And now to all this we add the rumors of the DHS fomenting a “civil war” in America to call for a “clamp down” by the government and the postponement of this November’s elections.  All this in preparation to create a worldwide crisis this summer that would make all the people demand the security that can only be provided by an authoritarian global government.  The developing report on this is put out by an outfit called The Northeast Intelligence Network.  Hard to think of a more sinister rumor of conspiracy than this, but it just keeps on building.

[21may12 update] The above conspiracy now has a name – “The Reichstag Event”.  In a circulating email sourced from Canada it claims that “The Obama agents, through the DHS and other assorted colluders, are plotting a major ‘Reichstag’ event to generate racial riots and produce the justification for martial law, delaying the November 2012 elections, possibly indefinitely, a DHS whistleblower informed the Canada Free Press on Tuesday.”

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78 responses to “Conspiracy Theories by the Dozen, Oh My! (updated 21may12)”

  1. Russ Steele Avatar

    This is not a conspiracy theory, but may be related. Across the nation ammunition manufacturers report their factories are producing ammunition at record rates and keeping their facilities operating 24/7. “Yet, they still cannot keep up with the demand for bullets for everything from handguns to hunting rifles. Gun store owners and manufacturers claim this is the first time they have ever seen such a drastic shortage in ammunition. According to gun rights activists and enthusiasts, ammunition is a scarce commodity and has been getting scarcer this year.” Our local manufacture sells out 18 wheelers loaded with ammo in only hours at regional gun shows. Since Obama was elected, guns and ammo sales have been one of the bright spots in a very dim economy. The people’s actions are speaking louder than any politicians words. Citizens are quietly creating an army of davids.

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  2. Michael Anderson Avatar

    “Citizens are quietly creating an army of davids.”
    Onward to the Great Divide!

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  3. Russ Steele Avatar

    Here is a conspiracy theory reality check: http://youtu.be/CZ-4gnNz0vc

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  4. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Gee George, some of that is even further out than some of the fringe lefties I keep in FB corral. Yah left out building 7 and Area 51. Out of ammo, buy a bow and arrow. I’ve seen folks in Golden Gate Park who are more accurate at 200 yards than most ammoed hunters. Yes Virginia, there is an archery range in Golden Gate Park.

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  5. Russ Steele Avatar

    This morning from the Vision to America website: DHS Whistleblower: Obama to Commit ‘Reichstag’ Event to Enact Martial Law

    The Obama agents, through the DHS and other assorted colluders, are plotting a major ‘Reichstag’ event to generate racial riots and produce the justification for martial law, delaying the November 2012 elections, possibly indefinitely, a DHS whistleblower informed the Canada Free Press on Tuesday.
    The ‘Reichstag Event’ would take the form of a staged assassination attempt against Barack Obama, “carefully choreographed” and manufactured by Obama operatives. It would subsequently be blamed on “white supremacists” and used to enrage the black community to rioting and looting, the DHS source warned.
    The Obama administration would then use the violence and chaos they created as justification for the imposition of martial law in major urban cities in America, the creation of DHS checkpoints, restriction of travel, and the indefinite delay of the November 2012 elections.
    The Reichstag event refers to a fire started during Hitler’s rise to power. The fire allowed him to grab emergency powers and murder his opposition. Historians have long believed that Hitler started the fire himself, while he blamed it on the Communists.
    The anonymous whistleblower elaborated on how the Obama administration is using the Occupy movement, labor unions, and other assorted subversive groups to create massive chaos within the nation.

    Conspiracy? Wish full thinking? Right wing fantasy? I am still troubled by the 450 million rounds of 40 mil ammo. Why does the government need enough bullets to kill every person in America and still have some for a second shot?

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  6. Steven Frisch Avatar

    OMG…a Reichstag Event? GIve me a break. You guys are so far around the bend that you could not pour the piss out of your boots if the instructions were written on the sole. I am buying tin foil futures.

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  7. Michael Anderson Avatar

    “I am buying tin foil futures.”
    Excellent advice. Would that be Alcoa, or do you have a supplier further up the chain? I want in!

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  8. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “Why does the government need enough bullets to kill every person in America and still have some for a second shot? ”
    Because all the boomers were trained to duck and cover.
    Looks to me like someone trying to take advantage of an unfortunate event that may happen due to natural right wing causes.

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  9. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Michael, I don’t think there are any American aluminum foil manufacturers left. The Chinese and Russians bought them all out in order to create a Tin Foil Hat gap. Fortunately, General Buck Turgidsen, USMC retired, now with the Cement Hill Militia, is working on. plan to make quilted tin foil hats from recycled candy wrappers.

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  10. Brad Croul Avatar

    The buying of bullets could be a sign that the recession is over.
    Or, the rednecks and hillbilly tweakers are in an arms(ammo) race with the government.
    Or, it could be a redneck commodities hedge. Instead of buying lead and brass futures, they buy bullets.
    Or, “The ammunition shortage is a nationwide phenomenon. An ABC News story in August said departments across the United States are reporting reductions in training because of shortages and delays caused by the 1 billion bullets that troops training for action in Iraq and Afghanistan fire every year.” (this from “way back” in 2007)
    Read more: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/article_6238231f-a0b8-58c2-be48-cffb0974831a.html#ixzz1ugzx7aFy

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  11. Gregory Avatar

    Four years ago a common left wing delusion was that the evil Bush and Cheney were going to just seize power rather than allow elections that would not include them. At least the right wing worries has a Reichstag event as a trigger.
    I wasn’t worried about the Bushies, as weren’t trying to limit the 2nd amendment and fighting for civilians being armed is counterproductive to the establishment of a police state. I sincerely doubt there’s any real conspiracy behind this one, though I wouldn’t be surprised if there was central planning to handle large scale civil unrest that would give any nervous nellie civil libertarian reason to lie awake at night and wonder out loud during the day.

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  12. David King Avatar

    Boo, boo from the Koch brothers!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc_3wsLd01s
    THEY’RE WATCHING YOU!!!
    LOL!

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I’ll bet a buck that SteveF and MichaelA think there was a dude on the grassy knoll and that Kevin Costners film JFK was a fact. What a hoot!

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  14. Michael Anderson Avatar

    And I am currently reading Todd Juvinall’s Mission, The Story of a Shoe Factory Boy.
    What a boot!

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  15. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Gregory wrote: “At least the right wing worries has a Reichstag event as a trigger.”
    Cheney’s trashing of the 1st and 4th Amendments was bad enough. But if you had been monitoring http://www.legitgov.org/ during the Bush presidency, Lori Price was calling out false flag operations every other day, of which probably 1 in 10 were plausible.
    Perhaps you were living in another country at the time.

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  16. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Never believed Bush and Cheney were just going to seize power, never believed anyone was on the grassy knoll. Todd, perhaps if you are going to ascribe conspiracy theories to those of us who post here you could refer to a specific post. All Michael and I have to do to prove our point is say “see above”.

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  17. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    You two are sooo funny. Always claiming plausible deniability. Tin hats for you two? Call 1800-IAMaknut for further details of grassy knolls..

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  18. Gregory Avatar

    So Frisch, of the Bush Derangement Syndrome sufferers you knew, how many did you make snide comments about? Any tinfoil hat comments for them?

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  19. Gregory Avatar

    MA, “legitgov.org” is tinfoil hat central. Yes, I think we were in two different countries, if you think they had any rooting in reality. The solution to virtually all the constitutional complaints in the Bush years would have been for the Congress to remove war powers from the administration, well within the power of Pelosi and Reid after 2006. Instead, the war powers live on through the entire Obama years.
    Tell me, Mike, what do you think about Fast & Furious? How many guns should the Obama administration have allowed to go to Mexican drug gangs to prove how bad it was? How many fibs should the Attorney General be allowed to give Congress before being brought up on perjury charges? How many deaths are acceptable collateral damage?

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  20. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Darn, Gregory, you should here me go off on the OWS people. Do you seriously believe that I would temper my comments to people who are to my ‘left’? I am a pretty straight forward guy. Did you notice me taking a certain former Nevada County Supervisor candidate who I would say is to the left of me to task for his conspiracy theories? The problem is I never met a single person who professed to believe that “Bush and Cheney were going to just seize power rather than allow elections that did not include them.” But here the conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen.

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  21. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Ooops, typing too fast…you should ‘hear’…..

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  22. Gregory Avatar

    Frisch, when you took the unnamed leftist Supervisor candidate “to task”, did that include any phrase similar to “You guys are so far around the bend that you could not pour the piss out of your boots if the instructions were written on the sole. I am buying tin foil futures”?
    Please, I’d love to see what you consider taking someone to the left to task.

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  23. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Really Greg, you seem to have nothing better to do. Perhaps yu should go find it yourself over at Pelline’s blog. I know you cruise the site regularly since you often comment about it here.
    By the way, I’m amazed that you did not recognize my LBJ paraphrase! Even I can’t come up with colorful phrase like that on my own.
    Since you guys regularly call me a communist, socialist, fascist and collectivist here, and in Todd’s case call me a criminal without anybody here objecting, I figure there are no limits.

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  24. Michael Anderson Avatar

    “How many guns should the Obama administration have allowed to go to Mexican drug gangs to prove how bad it was?”
    I’ll see your Fast & Furious and raise you a Valerie Plame.
    Are you really trying to equate the unconstitutional acts of the Bush administration with anything that has occurred during the Obama administration? Seriously?

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  25. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Valerie Plame? Amazing comment there MichaelA. Seems she was outed for the liar she is and her husband was quite the liar as well (yellow cake and I don’t mean edible). They got their 15 minutes of fame and the best the persecutor (a republican) could get was Scooter for alledged perjury on another matter he sinply forgot. You libs crack me up. Fasy and Durious is leaving dead Mexican men, women and children dead across Mexico and the best you have is Plame! I know we are winning the battle of ideas now, thanks.
    Oh and SteveF, I have probed my memory banks and cannot come up with me calling you a criminal. Point me to the comment please.

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  26. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Todd wrote: “Fasy and Durious is leaving dead Mexican men, women and children dead across Mexico”
    No, that would be Nixon’s War on Drugs doing that. Perhaps we should declare victory and move on.
    And I’ll put you down as a “yes” regarding the question of whether for political reasons it is OK to out a covert CIA officer.

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  27. David King Avatar

    And I’ll raise you this Michael!
    The New Holocaust Deniers
    http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-new-holocaust-deniers/?singlepage=true

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  28. billy T Avatar

    What a joy to come home after a long wearisome day and read the delightful comments on my beloved RR. First and foremost, we may never know for sure who shot JR Ewing from the grassy knoll. The TV series Dallas is long gone, but the conspiracy theories continue to this day. I think it was Bush’s fault, no doubt. Gov. Bush claims he was in Austin at the time but he could have slipped into Dallas unnoticed. It could have been his librarian wife Laura that did the dastardly deed. Laura appears so sweet on the outside, but who knows what evil lurks in the heart of Southern women. Scientific facts reveals unequivocally that it was not Laura because Laura missed by a mile on her first try. Luckily Barbara was with her daughter-in-law and had a sensible back up plan. The down to earth Barbara can put your left eye out at 201 yards with the Derringer she keeps concealed in her panty hose. Her husband George Herbert Walker Bush supplied the ammo with his close ties with the CIA. Yep, its all Bush’s fault.

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  29. Gregory Avatar

    “raise you a Valerie Plame”
    MA may have forgotten that it wasn’t Cheney that mentioned Plame to the press, it was Richard Armitage, who was not a Bush partisan.
    The late, great Christopher Hitchens wrote multiple pieces on the Plame affair, none of them kind to Plame or Wilson:
    “[B]oth pillars of the biggest scandal-mongering effort yet mounted by the “anti-war” movement—the twin allegations of a false story exposed by Wilson and then of a state-run vendetta undertaken against him and the lady wife who dispatched him on the mission—are in irretrievable ruins. The truth is the exact polar opposite. The original Niger connection was both authentic and important, and Wilson’s utter failure to grasp it or even examine it was not enough to make Karl Rove even turn over in bed. All the work of the supposed “outing” was inadvertently performed by Wilson’s admirer Robert Novak.”
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/07/case_closed.single.html
    The most pithy quote Hitchens dug up regarding the whole affair is “The disclosures about Armitage, gleaned from interviews with colleagues, friends and lawyers directly involved in the case, underscore one of the ironies of the Plame investigation: that the initial leak, seized on by administration critics as evidence of how far the White House was willing to go to smear an opponent, came from a man who had no apparent intention of harming anyone.”
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2006/08/plame_out.single.html
    In short, Mike, it’s amazing you’re still carrying water for Wilson & Plame. There never was a there, there. I guess Bush Derangement Syndrome and all the conspiracy theories woven by the left takes years to recover from.

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  30. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    MichaelA is not satisfied with blaming Bush, George, not the greenery, for all the ills, he goes back to Nixon! That is why the lefty conspiracy nuts are soooo funny. The “war on drugs” has been going on since Coca Cola had to stop putting cocaine in their soda pop. Or, since the Chinese had smoke shops of heroin (in almost all gold mining towns). No MichaelA, th drug wars have ravaged the populace way before you can blame Nixon or Nancy Reagan or Bush.
    I personally never used an “illegal” drug so I have done my part to stop the violence and the murders the “illegal” drug trade has done to Mexico and all points south of the USA. I suspect the old TV series “Miami ice” was based on some idea about the drug trade, ya think?
    The drug murders in Mexico and before that in Colombia are fueled by American drug users because that is where the money comes from. The killers want the money. If you ever used cocaine or heroin or even MJ grown and transported here from the places south of our border then you in my view are complicit in the anarchy and murder of many innocent people. The thirst for mind altering substances is a scourge on the American people and out country in general. Can you imagine how much more stable and rich America would be if people stopped getting high? How many more opportunities would be created if Americans did not sit around in a stupor of smoke and needles and spoons? No, I am no prude and I am a realist about the use f drugs, illegal ones, and I see the problem it has created and it certainly is not Nixon’s fault. It is the drug users fault. To blame anyone except the weak-kneed users is ridiculous. So, when I read the stories about the murders and beheading done by the Zeta group in Mexico, I know it is because American users caused it by demand for the substances. Nothing less nothing more. The modern Capone’s abound “down Mexico way”.

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  31. Gregory Avatar

    “Since you guys regularly call me a communist, socialist, fascist and collectivist here, and in Todd’s case call me a criminal without anybody here objecting, I figure there are no limits.”
    By my recollection, I’ve not written those things, Frisch, and in weak moments I think I’ve even thrown in an objection or two on your behalf for some of them, so why throw them in my face?
    “I figure there are no limits”? Frisch, as the CEO of a sweet little non-profit spinning off a six figure salary for you, you should realize there are always limits.

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  32. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Cheney was the mastermind. Armitage was glued to his hip.
    Plame’s CIA relationship was compromised, and people she used in other countries to help the US were probably killed.
    I guess everyone’s OK with that.
    And don’t throw Hitchens at me, as brilliant a mind that he possessed. At the end of the day he was a nicotine-stained, Walker-engorged, highly functional addict, always grumpy and once decided on a subject never able to change his mind.
    His unrequited rage against only certain aspects of 9/11, and his abject hate for Joe Wilson, clouded his judgement (already clouded by fermented grape and scotch whiskey) to the point where I stopped reading him completely in 2004.

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  33. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Todd,
    The only difference between Hitchens and people who “sit around in a stupor of smoke and needles and spoons” is that Hitchens’ drugs are legal.
    Addiction is a medical problem, it has nothing to do with crime. Once you remove the illegality of substances and treat the disease, you will be able to avoid the type of violence now happening in Mexico.
    When someone blames what’s happening in Mexico on Eric Holder, it reveals a prejudice that has nothing to do with drugs or guns.
    Michael A.

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  34. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    MichaelA you are certainly in fantasyland. You have it all backwards but I do enjoy reading your “stories” of unreality. Amazing.
    Oh, and that wascally Cheney, he skated because he was not the source of your fantasy but you just believe that “conspiracy”. What a hoot!

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  35. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Todd, I am here for your enjoyment, as you are for mine. Happy Mothers Day.

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  36. David King Avatar

    Todd said:
    “To blame anyone except the weak-kneed users is ridiculous. So, when I read the stories about the murders and beheading done by the Zeta group in Mexico, I know it is because American users caused it by demand for the substances. Nothing less nothing more. The modern Capone’s abound “down Mexico way”.”
    Well said Todd.
    I do however place a lot of the blame on the breakdown of the traditional family structure.
    With fewer fathers at home to bring Thor’s mighty hammer down on junior’s head when he gets out of line, we are ending up with moral relativism and an easily manipulated younger generation.
    I believe that to be deliberate.

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  37. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Greg, a careful reading of this blog, along with Russ’s, would show that I have on several occasions recommended that rules be instituted that would increase civility and improve the dialogue. These entreaties have been consistently rebuffed, usually with the ludicrous critique that this is somehow censorship (showing a remarkable ignorance of what a constitutional right is for a bunch of people who claim to be constitutionalists). As long as you and others regularly ascribe craven motives to my opinions I will respond by pointing out the cravenness of those who post here.

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  38. Michael Anderson Avatar

    David King wrote: “With fewer fathers at home to bring Thor’s mighty hammer down on junior’s head when he gets out of line, we are ending up with moral relativism and an easily manipulated younger generation.”
    Mr. King, thank you for providing such a keen example of 19th century backward thinking to prove how far we have to go before we will ever get out from under provincial and Puritan views that continue to hobble forward progress in this country.
    The good news is that the Millennials, aka Generation Y, are on their way, and they are going to so thoroughly repudiate antiquated thinking such as Mr. King’s that someday soon we will compare what he wrote this morning to what some men believed at the beginning of the 20th century when asked if women should vote.
    Mr. King, if you are truly interested in solving the drug problem, rather thank clonking junior on the head so he’ll put down the bong, read the views of some people (mothers!) who have actually lived the nightmare that is the War on Drugs:
    http://www.anewpathsite.org/
    http://www.anewpathsite.org/momsunited1.html

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  39. David King Avatar

    Greg, a careful reading of this blog, along with Russ’s, would show that I have on several occasions recommended that rules be instituted that would increase civility and improve the dialogue.
    Like when you called us “crackers”?
    Is that what you mean?

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  40. George Rebane Avatar

    Assessing someone’s ideological affectation and/or political affiliation by using labels proudly accepted by those so self-declared and those continuously published in the open literature is not “craven” in any accepted sense of the word. The labeled may disagree, but that is also the sum and stuff of the debate on these pages.

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  41. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Great George, then no one here should have ANY objection when I say that the policies they profess are fascist, racists, bigoted and selfish. If you point is that the truth is the ultimate defense, and you believe you have a monopoly on the truth, I am just as free to believe the same. So Greg, D.King et al should just grin and bear it.

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  42. David King Avatar

    Michael Anderson Said:(a bunch of nasty stuff, but, I forgive you!)
    Thanks for the links Michael, they are truly enlightening.
    http://www.anewpathsite.org/
    …and look what I found.
    Go to the Links tab.
    Drug Policy Alliance
    Moms United to End the War on Drugs
    http://www.drugpolicy.org/about-us/leadership/board-directors
    Good old George “Holocaust helper” Soros.
    You really should keep better company Michael!
    It’s my sincere hope that someday you’ll put it all together.
    Love and kisses,
    Dave

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  43. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    This is obviously too much fun, but I have work to do, so I’ll just sign in with the question, “do tin foil helmets protect from Cheney shotgun blasts?”

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  44. George Rebane Avatar

    SteveF 1012am – “… and you believe you have a monopoly on the truth …” Wherever do you come up with these one liners Steve?! I, of all people, have written extensively in these pages, using lay and technical language, to attest and explain how our individual perceptions of truth and logic arise and are maintained.
    And, as always, you are most free, nay, invited to explain how “the policies (I/conservatives)profess are fascist, racists, bigoted and selfish.” And as we see, these are very pejorative terms that you like to dredge up, no one I know of would label themselves with such. However, the labels which many of your beliefs and supported policies invite on a broad basis, those labels are proudly worn by millions across the world.
    And to my knowledge, you have never defined any of these terms in terms of a reasoned debate – they appear to be applied on a gratuitous and ad hoc basis to anything you happen to disapprove. I think that is the difference that we need to keep in mind when labeling.

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  45. Gregory Avatar

    Frisch, you regularly violated the rules you wanted Rebane to institute on other blogs, and here. What a bloody hypocrite you were, and are, just wanting to boss other people around while patting yourself on the back.
    MA, the reason no one was ever prosecuted for the Plame outing is that not only was the mention innocent by someone who was NOT a Bush partisan, she had last been in the field so long before that she no longer qualified as a field operative under the Act that forbids the disclosure.
    TJ, “Scooter” Libby didn’t just forget, he fell on his sword to keep Cheney free of an election season embarrassment. Libby did lie in what was legally an obstruction of justice. However, the special persecutor knew Armitage was the source of the leak even before the investigation started, so it was political theater from the start.

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  46. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Greg, as usual you are correct and you keep us in the proper facts. I am fascinated by the Frisch and MichaelA’s though. How is it after all that has transpired on the Plame issue that MA could still makes up his facts? I mean, come on MA, it is all right there to read ad nauseum.
    Frisch though is the real disingenuous poster. He does trash the conservatives constantly and name calls en masse anyone he disagrees with then cries like a baby when he receives like. That to me is a shown of immaturity I see in 13 year olds. How his brain can twist a persons support of the very Constitution he lives under into a fascist needs further review by a psychiatrist. If a self proclaimed smarty like Frisch can actually justify a twisted sense of freedom into Mussolini like reality, then no wonder he belongs to the 20% liberal nutty group of Americans.

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  47. billy T Avatar

    “do tin foil helmets protect from Cheney shotgun blasts?”
    Posted by: Douglas Keachie | 13 May 2012 at 11:15 AM . Douglas, the answer is obvious. No, tin foil hats do not protect one from Mr. Cheney’s shotgun blast unless you are kissing your rear end goodbye. Scientific evidence shows Mr. Cheney only shoots lawyers in the gluteus maximus (a very large muscle) whether one be a Republican or Democrat. Tin foil hats only protect the little head from shot gun blasts. I am still waiting for that loud popping sound which occurs when our liberal friends remove their heads from their asses.

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  48. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    This link will ake you to the latest massacre of Mexican by Mexicans of the drug trade. Read it MichaelA and maybe then you may agree the American drug users could save some lives if they just said NO.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/us-mexico-slayings-idUSBRE84C08420120513

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  49. Michael Anderson Avatar

    “Read it MichaelA and maybe then you may agree the American drug users could save some lives if they just said NO.”
    If alcohol were again made illegal, the same thing would be happening between alcohol cartels. I can’t believe you really think that if Americans would just stop taking drugs, these problems would disappear. It’s never going to happen. Never ever.
    So I’ll mark you down as a “yes” for supporting the continued American gulag for drug users (except for alcohol, for which the Super Bowl was invented in order to sell tanker cars of the stuff). “Alice in Wonderland” is actually credible compared to this insanity.
    The War on Drugs. The War on Terror. The War on Crime. Three great ways to spend money. In other countries, the kids who are qualified go to college for free. In this country, we send our kids to prison for free, but loan kids money for college (just recently topping $1 trillion in debt) so they’re in debt up to their ears for the first 1/4 of their working lives.
    Complete madness.

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  50. Michael Anderson Avatar

    We’ll have to agree to disagree on the Plame affair. Political theatre indeed.
    Next stop, Abu Ghraib.

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