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George Rebane

The curious and inexplicable course of our polarized public discourse has been examined for some time in these pages, even to the extent that ‘The Liberal Mind’ is an RR category of collected posts on this issue.  To a reasonable person on the so-called Right, the reasoning processes of the so-called Left are an enduring puzzle, even though the outcomes of such processes are relatively easy to predict.  I don’t know whether people of the Left have similar problems understanding our reasoning processes, but I presume that they do.

These questions are neither idle nor unimportant as indicated by the increasing level of academic research devoted to the area.  A landmark study done at University College London, reported here, discovered measurable differences in the active brain areas of conservatives and liberals when they considered socio-political issues informed by their separate ideologies.  This research indicated that with appropriate brain imaging equipment in place, it is possible to tell from the resulting images whether the subject studied is a self-professed liberal or conservative.

Now Dr Jonathan Haidt, professor of psychology at the University of Virginia, has documented his examination of how liberals and conservatives differ in The Righteous Mind (two reports on it here and here).  The results from Haidt and his research team are both revealing and illuminating.  Even the noted progressive NYT columnist Nicholas Kristof reports that these results “help demystify the right”.

Dr Haidt’s research indicates that Americans speak of social values in “six languages” (aka six dimensions).  Kristof states that “Conservatives speak all six, but liberals are fluent in only three. And some (me included) mostly use just one, care for victims.”  The liberals’ three languages of social discourse are in a manifold whose three dimensions are – caring for the weak, fairness, and liberty.  The conservatives share these three, with a somewhat different view of fairness and liberty, and add to their manifold of thinking/expression three more – loyalty, respect for authority, and sanctity.  These three are also tagged as “binding values” that bind people together into larger groups.


That conservatives are able to view and frame social questions and solutions into a richer (more nuanced) environment may explain another conclusion from this research.  It turns out that conservatives are much better at predicting how liberals will solve/decide a social issue, than liberals are at predicting how conservatives will react.  This result is readily corroborated by reviewing the comment streams in Ruminations and similar commentary blogs.  Redstate.com presents the following from a summary of the original research.

Our results go beyond previous studies, however, in finding and explaining an otherwise puzzling result: liberals were the least accurate. We presented three competing hypotheses about accuracy: 1) We found no support for the hypothesis that liberals would be most accurate; liberals were the least accurate about conservatives and about liberals. The largest inaccuracies were in liberals’ underestimations of conservatives’ Harm and Fairness concerns, and liberals further exaggerated the political differences by overestimating their own such concerns. 2) We found some support for the hypothesis that moderates would be most accurate, which they were in the case of the binding foundations. However, and most crucially, partisan inaccuracies were not mirror images of each other. On the contrary, liberals and conservatives both tended to exaggerate their binding foundation differences by underestimating the typical liberal and overestimating the typical conservative. 3) Finally, we found some support for the hypothesis that conservatives would be the most accurate, which they were in the case of the individualizing foundations. In line with Moral Foundations Theory, liberals dramatically underestimated the Harm and Fairness concerns of conservatives.

At this point it is important to remind ourselves that not being able to fathom the presumed reasoning processes in the liberal mind is independent of the ability to predict the contingent output from such a mind.  In other words, I and others like me, cannot fit progressive thinking into our world frame, but we can treat that kind of thinking as a ‘black box’ that produces usefully predictable outputs from a given set of inputs.  The University of Virginia’s research indicates that the progressive is doubly frustrated here – he not only cannot follow our reasoning, but is also saddled with a less reliable ‘black box’ model of our deliberations on social issues.

So as more studies are done and results roll in, the stark polarization of socio-political ideologies that gather around the collectivist and conservative/libertarian banners becomes apparent as being based on identifiable seminal differences in the workings of our brains and the minds that such brains are able to fashion.  The interesting question of nature or nurture has yet to be addressed.

The research to date can be explained away by the ‘nurture’ side of development, especially in view of the University College London results – people changing ideologies did also change processing brain areas.  And the Haidt study based itself on identifying right/left psychologies – i.e. mind instead of brain – which suggests that a differently nurtured brain might have adopted the opposite abilities to analyze and express themselves in the language manifolds identified.  But we don’t know if there is something intrinsic in the nature (expressed physiological structure) of brains which make them more conducive to a collectivist vs classical liberal (a la Bastiat et al) ideology.

[7apr12 update]  Since penning the above, the thesis that collectivists and classical liberals are fundamentally different in the make up of their intellects, including reasoning processes, is gaining traction among people who study our polarized ideologies.  This coming Wednesday 11 April, the Levan Institute for Humanities and Ethics (University of Southern California) is sponsoring a seminar on the topic in which it asks "Do we choose our political views or do our brains choose them for us?  If political preferences reflect differences in brain structure, what effect does this have on our ability to defend our political affiliations on rational grounds?'

RR's continuing reflections on this important proposition form an important foundation for understanding today's political divide and its possible evolution to the Great Divide (q.v.).

[10apr12 update]  And here's an even later report on results that point to a biological difference between people of liberal and conservative persuasions that should be very complimentary to our progressive friends.  The point to bear in mind is that the differences appear to be clinically observable, and therefore 'real' in a wider sense than people having arrived at disparate ideologies by dint of reasoning alone.

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69 responses to “The Liberal Mind – Yes Virginia, we really are different (updated 10apr12)”

  1. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “actual” saving GG the effort.

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  2. Brad Croul Avatar

    Can conservatism be cured? A study reveals that conservatives have more pronounced amygdala,
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342239/Brain-study-reveals-right-wing-conservatives-larger-primitive-amygdala.html
    Now researchers have discovered a pill, propranolol, that might help the overactive amygdala. Recent tests look promising,
    http://theweek.com/article/index/225396/can-a-pill-cure-racism
    Ignore the ‘racism’ tag as this was the only thing being tested for. The part of the brain affected is the same though.

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK 914am – A more careful read would have pointed you to http://www.amazon.com/The-Righteous-Mind-Politics-Religion/dp/0307377903/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333301399&sr=8-1
    You can dig out the original research publications from there. In meanwhile, please give it a rest.

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  4. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    You are willing to fund the purchase of the book, to be able to look up the references? That’s nice. Where do I send the bill? The Range, or the Outdoorsman’s Club.

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  5. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “Nevada County Sportsman’s Club”

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  6. Gregory Avatar

    Without comment besides the obvious that this Dec ’11 image has a much different impact than those of him at age 14 or so:
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/second-trayvon-martin-twitter-feed-identified/

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  7. Paul Emery Avatar

    George
    Palin was put in as VP to energize the conservative legions as a hedge for nominating McCain. Does that simplify my labeling her as “work product” of the conservative mind?

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  8. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    I think PaulE has now shown us his ignorance of politics. Palin was added for her conservative values which attract many people to vote for the pair. Just as Kennedy picked Johnson for his Texas residence to attract Texas votes.

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  9. Paul Emery Avatar

    I agree Todd. My point is that the conservatives believed that she was qualified to be President of the U.S. which is an actualization of the values and reasoning of conservatives.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Well duh PaulE. Tell us Paul, what are the qualifications for the fellow you voted for, Obama versus Palin.

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  11. THEMIKEYMCD Avatar

    I had an impromptu debate with 2 people pushing socialized health care outside the grocery store Friday.
    Them: “Single payer health care will make health care almost free for everyone, the doctors will get paid more, the state will save 8 billion dollars, greedy insurance companies will be gone”
    Me: “Who pays for it?”
    Them: “we really haven’t figured that out yet, we are just asking folks to get educated, plus we will save $8 billion dollars”
    Me: “greedy insurance company? Do you know that my insurance company only has a 2% profit margin”
    Them: “I don’t know what a profit margin is”
    Me: “do you expect the cost and benefits to be equitably shared among Californians?”
    Them: “oh yes, millionaire will pay for it and employers and everyone will be covered, especially the kids”
    Me: “the kids that are already covered, regardless of even being a citizen?”
    Them: “No one is happy with their health insurance”
    Me: “I’m happy with my health insurance”
    Them: I had ankle surgery I couln’t walk without the surgery. The surgery cost me $2,000.
    Me: “I would gladly pay $2,000 to walk… would this single payer system be FORCED on everyone or would it be a choice? If it is desired couldn’t it be a choice?”
    Them: “It is so good that we would make everyone be in it, remember the goal is to get rid of the greedy insurance company. California will become the insurance company”
    UGH.

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  12. George Rebane Avatar

    mikeyMcD 730pm – A conclusion from this post and the research it cites is that they are beyond redemption; at least any for which I would be willing to exert. For kickers, look at the thread that concludes with DougK’s 1053am. I hope the middle-roaders, independents, and undecideds are taking all this in.

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  13. billy T Avatar

    A conclusion from this post and the research it cites is that they are beyond redemption….Interesting statement, Dr. Rebane. It brings up the whole question of whether the hopeless, helpless, hapless far left became that way by environment or heredity. While some will go their graves beyond redemption, other have climbed out of the liberal slime and made it to safety. Some survivors have gone through a spiritual awakening coupled with deep soul searching and introspection. Some just looked around one day and things became clearer as they emerged from the fog. It takes an open honest person with courage to challenge long held beliefs and come to the light. I have a family member who graduated from Long Beach State in 1971 with a degree in feminist literature. A published author no less. She has since discarded the foolishness she believed as gospel for years after homeschooling her children and seeing how bigoted the far left has become and the leaders of “the movement” have betrayed her, mothers, wives, and the cause. She is not a man hater nor feels she ever was a victim. Yet, she confided to me that after all these years she still has those tapes in her head and it is battle at times to undo the propaganda that was drilled in her head in her impressionable youth. There is hope for the seemingly hopeless. Who was it that wrote all consensual sex is rape, even in marriage? Oh yeah, it was a much revered college professor (with a doctorate degree) on our campuses. For those of that professor’s ilk, they are indeed beyond redemption. The good news is that the Wizard has agreed to give Joe Biden a brain.

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    billyT 1052pm – A relevant and cogent addendum. Nevertheless we must recognize that my use of ‘redemption’ is from an ideologically provincial (or even parochial) perspective. Its semantic approaches no divine absolute. Those identified as irredeemable have not the slightest desire for such redemption, and are more than happy how their world is ordered. And I fear that, in the large, their joy and satisfaction will persist as long as there are still enough of us around to pay the bills that they gleefully address to us.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar

    All this is peeing in the wind unless it translates into independent viable elected officials that can inspire enough support to enact meaningful change. We’ll never see a true conservative government based on universal values because it will not please the ruling class. Romney as the end result of the Republican primary is certainly evidence of that.

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  16. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Here come the job creators:
    Wealthy Chinese seek special visas to relocate to Bay Area
    By John Boudreau
    jboudreau@mercurynews.com
    Posted: 04/05/2012 03:01:47 PM PDT
    Updated: 04/05/2012 09:30:16 PM PDT
    Even as China emerges as a super power, many of those who have benefited most from the country’s economic rise are heading for the exits. And many are relocating to the Bay Area, whose large Asian population, good schools and comfortable lifestyle are powerful draws for Chinese multimillionaires concerned about the future of their homeland and seeking the own American dream.
    “The rich people are trying to get green cards,” said Ta-lin Hsu, founder and chairman of Palo Alto-based venture capital firm H&Q Asia Pacific, who spends a lot of time in Asia. He is frequently asked by business associates about how to immigrate to the United States.
    “The main reason is, they still worry about the future stability of China,” Hsu said. “The U.S. is a democracy, there is freedom and it’s a safer place.”
    The exit door for many of these wealthy Chinese is opened by the fast-track visas America offers for well-heeled immigrants. Known as the EB-5, the visa requires applicants to invest $500,000 in projects in economically struggling regions or $1 million in a commercial venture in other locations. The investments must create or preserve 10 jobs for two years. If successful, the applicants and their families — spouses and children younger than 21 — are awarded permanent residency.
    The foreign money is a welcome source of funding for many projects. Oakland city officials, for example, have eyed the program to help pay for a project that includes
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    hotels, a convention center, shops and new facilities for the Raiders and Warriors and possibly a new A’s ballpark.

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  17. Mybestconservativeblog.blogspot.com Avatar

    I realize that this comment is a bit late, but the misinterpretation of the data, whether by liberals or conservatives, coupled with the apparent reluctance on the part of many conservatives to either defend the conservative “mind” using the liberal paradigm or, perhaps more importantly, to suggest that another paradigm even exists has really begun to irk me.
    I’m just getting started in addressing those issues in a wider venue than I have in the past, but my first step has been to visit each site to see what others are saying about the issue.
    Liberals exhibit liberal tendencies and seem to have no clue, no matter the site, but the more serious problem is that conservatives seem unable to really defend their positions.
    Thanks.

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  18. George Rebane Avatar

    Mybest 1230am – Thanks for your comment. Your “… no clue, no matter the site …” assertion is easy to agree with, but the lack of an effective conservative defense may be explained by the tools required to defend each side. The liberals defend theirs on the basis of emotional arguments and the promise of direct satisfaction of proximal needs. The conservatives have to summon tools such as reason and numeracy to show how their ideology would create a better society, they have no element of instant satisfaction to offer. This makes the conservative arguments much less accessible, and underpins the reason for the demise of democracies.

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