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George Rebane

The subject of this post is the candyass response of Republican politicians to the Limbaugh/Fluke imbroglio.

On ‘The Sad Tale of Sandra Fluke’ and extensive comment stream continues to (finally) air the destructive twists and turns of Obamacare that once more revealed the Left’s intentions on the breadth of entitlements subsidizing personal recreation, and their intentions on the constraint of conservative speech.  The former is part of their long promoted socialism for America, but the latter is a classic illustration and application of their asymmetrical logic on discourse in the public square.

The asymmetry between what progressive pundits can say and how it is received in the lamestream (and their sheeple audiences), and what a conservative can say is a matter of record.  It is a long and detailed historical litany that I will not repeat, but will point you toward so you know what I’m talking about.  Red State’s Lori Ziganto writes ‘Limbaugh, Fluke, 'War on Women’ and the Travesty of Cravenly Caving to Lies of the Left’, Erick Erickson writes 'Silencing the Right', and Reason’s Nick Gillespie examines when ‘It's Like Totally Different When a Liberal Blowhard Guy Calls a Conservative Woman a Twat!’.  There are more similar recountings, but with these you’ll get the idea.

The national response rolling over the countryside has been well-managed by the Left, reaching from the White House down to the loud local lefties in every community, with ours probably serving as the posterchild.  This you can confirm in ‘The Sad Tale …’ comment stream where some of our progressive luminaries in high dudgeon have posted monuments to their one-sided disgust at Limbaugh’s original remarks and my launch of a discussion of this new area of outrageous public entitlement.  These will stand as archeological monuments to 21st century leftwing mores and mentality.

But my gripe here is with the Republican response to the howling heard over the land today.  The proper reply from prominent Republicans to Obama on down on this matter is, ‘Suck it up, this is what free speech sounds like.  Limbaugh has plowed no new ground with his remarks, but followed in your own well laid and deep furrows.  You are piling this crap into a high mountain only to hide your bankrupt social and economic policies during the election year.’

But I haven’t heard any Republican of national note make such a statement.  Instead they continue to duck the topic or make candyass clucking sounds about Limbaugh’s “imprudence” while the Democrats’ machine rolls out their mischevious message over middling minds everywhere.

Locally, you can get a snootfull by tuning in to KNCO this morning.

[9mar12 update]  A correspondent sent this little vignette from O'Reilly that summarizes a lot of the background to Ms Flukes purposeful activism.

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172 responses to “The Candyass Republicans (9mar12 update)”

  1. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    BTW, sounds like somebody named Bennett wants to rewrite the Constitution to suit his worldview. I’m assuming that he was not talking about doing yet another review of the Roman Catholic Church’s worldview.

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  2. Gregory Avatar

    An old non sequitur needs attention:
    “Sorry Gregory, It was not George Stephanopoulos who introduced the Blunt amendment. Nor did he ask the question in a vacuum; he asked it after Rick Santorum brought it up on the campaign” – Steven Frisch | 09 March 2012 at 08:25 AM
    Stephanopoulos, past Democratic white house chief of staff, and the moderator of that Republican debate, brought up the question of banning contraceptives in the first week of January, out of the blue, many weeks before the Blunt amendment in late February. The new Federal rule that spawned the Blunt amendment was announced by the Obama administration on Friday, 20 January, after the seeds were planted by Bre’r Stephanopoulos. If Rick Santorum brought it up before that perhaps Frisch will have a citation. Don’t bet on it, nor on the possibility that Stephanopoulos didn’t have a heads up on the upcoming contraceptives rule.
    In order to balance all the Democrats who were allowed to steer the primary Debates, Rush Limbaugh should probably be tapped to moderate at least one debate between Obama and the GOP candidate.

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  3. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Hows this for a citation Gregory:
    First, look at the quote in this article predating the January debate:
    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/10/19/348007/rick-santorum-pledges-to-defund-contraception-its-not-okay-its-a-license-to-do-things/
    Second, look at this article from National Review in 2005, stating that Griswold v. Connecticut created a “right to privacy” that did not exist in the constitution:
    http://web1.nationalreview.com/articles/214965/constitutional-wrecking-ball/senator-rick-santorum
    This is where it all began, and Mr. Santorum has tried to equivocate on this issue for years after the publication of his book, It Takes a Family.
    My quick web search found more than 200 articles referencing Santorum’s position on contraception before the January 7th and 8th Republican presidential debates in New Hampshire.

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  4. Gregory Avatar

    Sorry, Frisch, but there’s no path from Santorum thinking the Feds shouldn’t pay for contraceptives to Stephanopoulos grilling Romney on whether states should ban them.
    The push to fabricate a Republican war on women is pure Democratic playbook politics.

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  5. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Since there is no war on women, it certainly won’t hurt to have as many of them as possible go to the polls and vote their worldviews, will it? It just might be that if you are married to a Christian man, you may have views similar to his:
    “For other clues, let’s turn to smaller groups of women voters in Ohio. By far, unmarried women favored Mr. Romney over Mr. Santorum by the biggest difference – 45 percent to 28 percent and among all unmarried voters, Mr. Romney had slightly more in his corner.
    A similar difference could be found among working women – who also chose Mr. Romney in greater numbers than their male working counterparts who gave a slight edge to Mr. Santorum.
    Married men in Ohio split nearly evenly, while married women slid a little more into Mr. Santorum’s column.
    Another measure that is slightly revealing is the independent voters’ share in Michigan and Ohio, where they and Democrats were allowed to take part in the primaries. Mr. Romney attracted far more independent women than Mr. Santorum in Michigan, while they split the same segment in Ohio.
    On the flip side of this equation, Mr. Santorum fared better among all female groups and married/unmarried voters in two states he won handily last Tuesday, Tennessee and Oklahoma, and tonight’s results in Alabama and Mississippi may be similar.
    All these states are conservative Republican strongholds, with large numbers of evangelical Christians. Last Tuesday in Tennessee, unmarried men selected Mr. Santorum more than unmarried women, but women overall also favored Mr. Santorum. And in Oklahoma, the picture is pretty much the same.”
    from: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/female-voters-and-the-2012-g-o-p-primary/

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  6. Gregory Avatar

    “Since there is no war on women”
    Keach, I’m happy to see that you agree.

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  7. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Greg, why can’t you ever admit it when you are wrong?
    You stated ” If Rick Santorum brought it up before that perhaps Frisch will have a citation”. Well I gave you the citations; and clearly stated that a simple web search could find literally hundreds of citations referencing Santorum’s position on contraception coming up before the January 7-8 debates. You did not even look. You are incoherent my friend.

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  8. Gregory Avatar

    “why can’t you ever admit it when you are wrong?”
    I do, but this isn’t one of those times. In order to admit error, I’d have to conflate all the different arguments that the Dems (apparently including you) are conflating in order to manufacture this phony “war on women”:
    The issue invented by Stephanopoulos in his ambush of Romney out of the blue was “do states have a right to ban contraceptives?”. This WAS out of the blue. No one was talking about it in the campaign, and it strains credulity (not that you had any) to think Stephanopoulos didn’t have a head’s up regarding the Obamacare directive that would be released a couple weeks later.
    What you’ve dredged up from months earlier from Santorum is that he’d said cut out federal funding for contraceptives, which isn’t the moral or legal equivalent of what George S. ambushed Romney on. It’s probably also within the executive’s powers.
    Then there’s the Obama administration idea of forcing all insurers to provide unlimited contraceptive coverage without copay. Sorry, being against this is not the equivalent of being for making contraceptives illegal, which is the premise of the Stephanopoulos question and the whole phony “war against women” rhetoric that Dems are pushing.
    Really, Frisch, you have no shame, are brainless, or both. Which is it?

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  9. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Sure Greg, it was a big conspiracy between the Department of Health and Human Services, the Obama White House, the Obama Campaign, and ABC News to advance a political agenda.
    Any reader here can do a web search and see that Santorum has been talking about this for years
    You are just spouting nonsense now Gregory–you are demonstrably wrong. Just say “NO I am right” is not a rational response..the data does not support your position.

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  10. Gregory Avatar

    Even a polysci grad from a 3rd tier college, the CEO of a 3rd tier nonprofit running on the crumbs that fall from the plate of a bankrupt state, knows it doesn’t take a “conspiracy” for everyone to be on the same page.
    Stephanopoulos, like all beltway insider journalists, is guaranteed to be doing the same sorts of things that people like Limbaugh and George Will were doing in my earlier example, calling Bill Bennett for his latest views in a hope they’ll have something interesting to report. George S, as a Clinton Chief of Staff, may even be on a first name basis with current White House Staff and would be sure to get through the switchboard to them. George S would certainly have known contraception was about to go front burner and as a partisan running a Republican debate was in a perfect spot to make the R candidates look bad.
    Frisch, I know it’s pure playbook to make non-Dems out to be loony conspiracists, but I am not one, nor do I care much which Republican wins, never having been a Republican. Admit it, your arguments, and the arguments of Democratic activists, require confusing the difference between:
    1) thinking the Federal Government should not be buying and distributing contraceptives;
    2) thinking individuals and institutions with moral objections to abortion should be forced to provide insurance for, or the actual procedure, against their will;
    and that being against a universal mandate to provide unlimited contraceptives of the patients choice, or abortions, without limit or copay is equivalent to the above.
    Really, Frisch, you’re the one not making any sense. Try intellectual honesty for a change.

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  11. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    Santorum may have spoken of those issues over say, thirty years! Those may be his beliefs. The Stephy issue is simple. After Stephy chatted with his buds in the WH, asking how he can help, Obama said George, ask the family man/governor a question on contraceptives. Let us put his frail ass in a sling because he, Romney, will be blindsided by it. OK, Georgy said, I’ll do it. And he did.

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  12. Gregory Avatar

    Todd, nothing so crass. Steffie just Knows he’s smarter than Romney and the rest of the R field, and knows contraception is about to go front burner.
    It’s pretty standard for reporters to do a reduction to the absurd and pose the question to the target. Easily done and it primed the pump. Whether free birth control pills buys Obama many electoral votes next November is not an answered question, but I’d not bet on it happening.

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  13. Todd Juvinall Avatar

    As we have seen though this has backfired on the democrats. All the Republican women are so happy we don’t have a war on them. LOL!

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  14. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Overall attitude towards women will sink Republican chances, how many Republican candidates will be stillborn before they get the message?

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  15. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    And who’s the biggest promoter of classism in this blog? “Even a polysci grad from a 3rd tier college” Greg’s wedding cake is getting awfully stale.

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  16. Gregory Avatar

    Keach, there’s a difference between a meritocracy and a caste. The Cal States are mostly 3rd tier.
    The UC’s are mostly 1st and 2nd tier.
    Polisci as a subject is probably 2nd tier based on the students it attracts, and anthropology is probably 3rd. Just the way it is.

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  17. Gregory Avatar

    BTW I’m happy to see M. Anderson declaring on another blog that I pegged the Stephanopoulos contraceptive issue on the Rebane blog, what a shame he didn’t do chime in with that opinion here.

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  18. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Don’t worry Greg, everybody already knows where you fit in the grand scheme of things.

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  19. Michael Anderson Avatar

    Gregory, I just figured everyone reads Rebane & Russ’ blog equally. Just saving a little time.
    But yes, your Stephanopoulos analysis seems quite sound to me. This sort of Beltway behavior is in the DNA of those who gravitate toward that line of work, it’s not overtly conspiratorial. The Democratic Party’s “War on Woman” meme is tawdry and has been overplayed, as usually happens with these partisan political plays.
    And of course, the Republicans regularly overplay their hands with an equally unpleasant beating-a-dead-horse tonal quality.

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  20. Steven Frisch Avatar

    Nonsense Michael…Santorum sad consistently in September, October and November that he wanted to make contraception an issue in this campaign. If you read the record it is right there. When a candidate for President of the United States says they want to make something an issue it is not the medias fault if they pick the story up…period. The only reason it was not an issue earlier is that Santorum was not winning primaries.

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  21. Gregory Avatar

    Thanks MA. Frisch may or may not be reading Russ.
    Frisch, apparently Santorum wasn’t talking about states making contraceptives illegal, and while it would have been reasonable to quiz Santorum on Santorum, pulling out the gotcha out of the blue to Romney seemed bizarre to most observers.
    Santorum wasn’t doing all that well the first week of January, you’re stretching for credulity you don’t have.

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  22. Brad Croul Avatar

    Keachie, Gregory, now I have to chase you guys over to Russ’ blog? Is this a reprise of “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield”, Part Deux, or what?

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