115 responses to “America’s Technical Talent Slide vs TechForum”

1. 

   Alcan Peter

   17 February 2012

   Pretty nice post.
   helicoptere RC

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   George Rebane

   18 February 2012

   Russ Steele (NC2012 on right) sent me an email that indicated there continues some longstanding and self-inflicted ignorance about TechTest. Purportedly on FUE’s blog a fellow leftwinger complains that the test’s questions and answers should be made public. As noted on these pages, all TTs have been available from the beginning on the SESF website. And for all those years the links to both SESF and the TT pages have been prominently included in the ‘Our Links’ column on the right.

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   Robert White

   18 February 2012

   Yes, Yes, but what other alternative uniformed, unreasoned, attention grabbing, self aggrandizing, pompous, optional remark could he have used?

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   George Rebane

   18 February 2012

   Let us just be grateful that they have deigned to take notice of our meager efforts which are barely discernible from such lofty heights.

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   Robert White

   18 February 2012

   Point well taken! I always find myself surprised when discovering they have noticed something existing beyond their true dimensional limits.

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   Douglas Keachie

   18 February 2012

   I await with baited breath the correctiio of the link to the right, so that it leads to something other than:
   
   I assume that q and a will be found, as well as the number of points per question?

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   Todd Juvinall

   18 February 2012

   Link works for me. Baited or bated?

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   Douglas Keachie

   18 February 2012

   Tech Test Link still is not working, and still yields above image.
   I suspect that and questions and answers concerning solar power and economic feasibility may have to be rewritten, as the panels are indeed, drumroll please, getting cheaper.
   From Reuters:
   But those cheaper panels meant lower costs for the installers who buy them, such as SolarCity, the market leader in residential and commercial installations, which is expected to seek an initial public offering this year that could value the company at about $1.5 billion.
   An IPO would make SolarCity and Real Goods Solar Inc the only two publicly traded companies solely focused on that market. Their success, and that of privately held rivals such as SunRun and Sungevity, could lead to “exponential growth” of the market, according to Neil Auerbach, founder of private equity firm Hudson Clean Energy.
   “SolarCity is not going to be the only company to enjoy the benefit of that,” he said. “We definitely believe that this is an attractive area. We have been looking at it. We haven’t found the right horse.”
   Total solar installations in the United States are believed to have nearly doubled in 2011 from the previous year to between 1,500 and 2,000 megawatts of capacity. About 16 percent of that went to residential rooftops and 40 percent for installations at commercial sites, according GTM Research.
   Much of solar’s recent growth has been from large-scale power plant projects designed to feed the wholesale electricity market in California. But with the state’s demand for large projects likely full through at least the middle of the decade, investors are looking at the spread of smaller installations, which may offer better returns.

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   Douglas Keachie

   18 February 2012

   Baited or bated? Baited, I took the bait but wound up high and dry, as there’s no water there.

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10. 

    Todd Juvinall

    18 February 2012

    George, I was emailed a link to the FUE’s critical post where he calls you and Russ and Barry hypocrites for the Tech Test. It appears to me the FUE doesn’t know the difference between science and and leftwing propaganda. That is not surprising since his education was apparently according to Gregory, Rhetoric. A test in science not tainted by ideology that you are doing is quite different than a “oceans expert” claiming the oceans are rising up from AGW where there is no proof for either. So, not to worry, you are on the right track, the FUE is irrelevant as usual.

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    Douglas Keachie

    18 February 2012

    As long as the test stays away from Global Climate Change, I suspect it’s a good thing. Stick with known math chemistry and physics.

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12. 

    George Rebane

    18 February 2012

    Apologies for the TechTest link not being complete, the fault is mine. We are in the process of redoing the SESF website, and the URL for TechTest changed, which I failed to update in ‘Our Links”. It is now corrected. However, the SESF link has always worked and allows the more experienced visitor to use the top tabs to go to the TechTest page. Thereon one will find the pdfs for past tests and solutions. I hope this clears things up.
    (DougK, many thanks for pointing out the the error.)

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    George Rebane

    18 February 2012

    ToddJ 242pm – After several emails and such comments as yours, I went to FUE’s blog to see what all the fuss was about. Wow! I guess no good deed will still go unpunished. I was a bit entertained by FUE’s lament that TechForum has Nevada County as a sponsor (buying two tables no less). He seems to be telling his readers that SESF somehow bamboozled the county in this matter, instead of being recognized for giving Nevada County’s high school seniors over $65K worth of merit scholarships. Is that good journalism?

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14. 

    Brad Croul

    18 February 2012

    The graph in the original post is likely a reflection of the Great Tech Bubble Bust of 1999.
    The NASDAQ also peaked during that same time period.

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15. 

    George Rebane

    18 February 2012

    BradC 507pm – Agreed. Nevertheless, it is the ground truth of our workforce’s technology sector.

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16. 

    Scott Obermuller

    18 February 2012

    The “feasibility” of solar is unknown since it is propped up on corporate welfare. That would be the 99% sending money to the 1% to make sure the 1% have a smaller power bill. Another deeply held tenet of the left. The cost of solar panels themselves has long been recognized as not being the major part of the total package cost. I’ve been watching solar since the 70’s and if I believed all the breathless hype and talk of lower cost panels since then, I’d have a 60KW installation at my house for about 10 bucks. The best thing for some one who claims they like solar energy to do would be to tell the govt and the utilities to stop “helping”. Then solar would grow. Ask the Spaniards or the Germans. It does work, but at a far higher cost. You have to install the solar and then you have to build an equivalent conventional power plant to back up the solar. Nuke is far better for a mass distribution system. Or coal – that’s the way the Chinese are going. Lots and lots of coal.

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    George Rebane

    18 February 2012

    Germany, arguably the world’s leader in rushing into photovoltaic solar energy, is pulling the plug on solar subsidies; it can no longer afford to fuel the foolishness.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203806504577180572533142452.html?KEYWORDS=Germany+solar
    Meanwhile, the idiots on these shores …

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18. 

    billy T

    18 February 2012

    Following this thread, I personally do not give a hoot what the fat piece of human debris has to say about anything on his blog, heehee. What a loser and a sore loser at that. Glad Russ picked the short straw and was delegated to read his twisted sista ramblings.. Better Russ than me! Concerning solar and renewable energy, I don’t think any one is against going green. What I am opposed to is the cost, the cost benefit, the point of diminishing demands. It would be cheaper to pay people 50k/year just to sit home and read the fat boy’s rag than to spend millions upon millions training 26 people on how to caulk windows and fasten a panel. The whole thing of greasing (non-grease of course)…of greasing the green upturned palms is sickening. Uncle Obama reached into the Treasury and gave Prologis millions in green loans with green dollars to buy Solyndra panels shortly before Solyndra went belly up and took tons of glass to the dump rather than find a salvage buyer or recycle. Why did Prologis get the loan? They are on the stock exchange, and manage 600 million feet of industrial property across the globe. Their balance sheet is strong, yet they got money to buy Solyndra overpriced panels and keep Obama’s shining example of Solyndra green jobs, American style, afloat. Oh, the greatest plans of mice and men…http://news.businessweek.com/article.asp?documentKey=1376-LZJSYA6KLVR501-0S71TVLRPCEEEMN7N3AM5AT3HI. Here is the money we loaned money to, the largest manager of industrial distribution facilities on the planet. http://www.prologis.com/en/global-platform.html

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    John Galt

    19 February 2012

    Just why exactly does the Pelline family have ANY role in promoting tourism in our county?
    Pelline’s petty and infantile diatribe could be ignored, except that the County is considering allotting all the tourism funds to one organization (instead of allocating among the chambers, etc.)
    The Pelline organization is specifically named as one of the contenders to receive these funds.
    Pelline’s baseless attacks against the SESF and TechForum demonstrate why the Pelline “organization” is unworthy of any role in promoting Nevada County’s tourism.
    Let your Supervisor know.
    Tourism is an important part of our economy. Only responsible adults should have a role in developing it; by definition, that exclude Jeff Pelline.
    –John Galt

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20. 

    Brad Croul

    19 February 2012

    Here is a recent article apropos to your discussion,
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/18/BU5U1N8SPD.DTL

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21. 

    George Rebane

    19 February 2012

    BradC 1005am – good piece. Also heard a piece on NPR this morning on a maker outfit that got highlighted on TED. This is a good initiative as long as the government keeps its nose out of it and doesn’t get in the way. However, I won’t hold my breath.

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22. 

    Russell Steele

    19 February 2012

    For those intereted, I highly recommend Make Magazine. I have made some the projects in the magazine and have submitted at least one article that was not published. Another author beat me to the publishers desk. I build a traveling WiFi hotspot into my GMC truck several years ago. I have been following the smart meter hacks in the magazine and plan to build a monitoring systems based on plans in Make Magazine.
    I bought this book last year before my smart meter was installed.
    Building Wireless Sensor Networks: with ZigBee, XBee, Arduino, and Processing
    I need to find some time to experiment, now that the smart meter has been installed. However, the first project will be to get my electronic workbench in my barn completed and functioning. It is half in the garage and half in the barn. Not enough stuff at either place to be productive.

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23. 

    billy T

    19 February 2012

    Well, can this guy play with his toys and make money or not? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/technology/drones-with-an-eye-on-the-public-cleared-to-fly.html

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24. 

    Russell Steele

    19 February 2012

    Billy T, Here is what happened to one drone flying over private property:
    A remote-controlled aircraft owned by an animal rights group was reportedly shot down near Broxton Bridge Plantation Sunday near Ehrhardt, S.C.
    Steve Hindi, president of SHARK (SHowing Animals Respect and Kindness), said his group was preparing to launch its Mikrokopter drone to video what he called a live pigeon shoot on Sunday when law enforcement officers and an attorney claiming to represent the privately-owned plantation near Ehrhardt tried to stop the aircraft from flying.
    “It didn’t work; what SHARK was doing was perfectly legal,” Hindi said in a news release. “Once they knew nothing was going to stop us, the shooting stopped and the cars lined up to leave.”
    He said the animal rights group decided to send the drone up anyway.
    “Seconds after it hit the air, numerous shots rang out,” Hindi said in the release. “As an act of revenge for us shutting down the pigeon slaughter, they had shot down our copter.”
    He claimed the shooters were “in tree cover” and “fled the scene on small motorized vehicles.
    One staring in my bedroom window will get the same treatment.

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    George Rebane

    19 February 2012

    It is always remarkable and amusing how the know-nothing animal rights cum anti-hunting crowd makes the trade-off between an animal being shot, and its dying a natural death that is normative for its species. I would venture that if the animals had the ability to choose between a disease-crippled, old-age decrepit, and/or terror-filled natural end that is the norm for them, compared to a surprise bullet, they would always choose the latter. There is nothing cruel to the animal in being hunted by a human with a modern weapon.

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26. 

    Scott Obermuller

    19 February 2012

    Big thumbs up to Make Magazine and Arduino. I’ll have to check out the others. There are all sorts of interesting experiments and projects on YouTube as well. I would tell any young person these days to try to learn as much as you can about electrical theory and get some hands-on project time with basic circuitry and even ripping into discarded electrical gadgets and appliances. Just make darn sure some one can be there to help keep you safe if there is house current or something with high voltage. (old micro wave oven, TVs etc). I still remember the first time I decided to make a “real powerful” electromagnet. No wimpy battery operated deal – no sir! I blew the breaker and nearly set fire to the rug, but I did learn something!
    As to the problems with aerial surveillance, the most common problem I can see is the fact that you can get the R/C controlled copters for very little these days and they are getting cheaper and more powerful. Combined with small cheap video cameras, and the designs of 15 year old boys wanting to take a peek at what goes on in the rooms of certain young ladies that live down the street – well, there’s bound to be mischief.

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27. 

    Douglas Keachie

    19 February 2012

    So, which one of the “responsible adults” has a bio and a magazine to compete with Jeff’s in the servicing of the rain making aspects of tourism in Nevada County? Or are you all just children throwing sand at the much better castle he’s built?
    “Editorial content is overseen by Jeff Pelline, whose award winning 30-year journalism career includes editing and management positions at the San Francisco Chronicle, CNET (since sold to CBS for $2 billion) and The Union in Grass Valley. Jeff’s work has also been published in the New York Times, Time magazine and the Chicago Tribune. CNET won a prestigious National Magazine Award when Jeff was Editor, among the first for an online publication.
    We publish and distribute 15,000 copies to more than 300 locations each quarter, including Auburn, Nevada City, Grass Valley, Rocklin and Roseville, Folsom, Lincoln, the greater Sacramento area, Placerville, Marysville, Yuba City, Chico, Paradise, Colfax, Truckee, Tahoe City, South Lake Tahoe and Reno. We also distribute our magazine at California Welcome Centers in Northern California.
    We seek high-demographic readers and provide restocking over the course of the three-month run of each issue. We also can customize distribution to fit advertiser’s specific needs, including the Bay Area markets.”

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28. 

    billy T

    19 February 2012

    Goods job gentlemen in being part of SESF. October Skies made me cry. Probably not news to you but today’s news included a study that showed the biggest decline in students graduating with math/engineering degrees since 1950 and 70% of our current grads are foreign born and most take their US degrees back to their homelands to seek fame and fortune and discovery. The sky is the limit for those with both feet on the solidly on the ground while their head is thinking outside the box. Again, good job gentlemen. Slightly off topic, the idea of electric cars is not a bad one. Gotta wait for the price to drop dramatically and the bugs to be worked out to be palatable for main stream America. I remember the Christmas of 1979 when an acquaintance directed his aide to go out and purchase 9 VCRs for his friends. The aide came back with the VCRs, happy that she found them at a store that sold them for a $200 discount. She only paid $900 each. Seems outrageous now, but that was the price when the hit the market. Same for flat sceen tvs, computers, and hopefully electric cars. Electric cars now are being sold to the truly excited ones that welcome electric cars with enthusiasm. Mostly on the left coast, places like LA, San Diego, Portland, Seattle and other urban centers with mild climates. But, I need to ask just one question. If a love one was stranded on a cold snowy night just 15 miles up the hill, would you go out to rescue your loved one in an all electric car with the heater on and guarantee you both would make it back home without running out of juice? We need more science and engineering majors.

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29. 

    Gregory

    19 February 2012

    Pelline is a mean-spirited partisan hack who is given to lying about people he doesn’t like in order to “win” arguments. His FoodWineArt magazine is a glossy advertiser held together with a minimum of content.
    He also is given to lying about himself; absolutely no one believes he’s a “moderate”, and the political spectrum according to Jeff seems to be “moderate” on one side and “hard right wing” on the other. His opposition to TechTest, besides Republicans being on the board of SESF, seems to be that the kids might hear a critique of the IPCC. And they probably should, they’ve been lied to enough by the scientists Pelline thinks should be the only ones heard from.
    The following WSJ op-ed, well worth reading, was signed by 16 scientific and engineering luminaries, including Dr. Nir Shaviv, the Israeli physicist whose 2003 paper (with geochemist Jan Veizer) “Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate?” was key in my conversion from lukewarmer to skeptic to scoffer when I started reading the journals myself five years ago:
    “No Need to Panic About Global Warming: There’s no compelling scientific argument for drastic action to ‘decarbonize’ the world’s economy”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html
    This is a fine summary of the state of climate science and what we should do about it. Kids shouldn’t have to go to Princeton or MIT to hear there really are well supported alternative climate views, and even at UC Berkeley, a chemistry professor recently told his class of chemistry majors that “30 years ago they were trying to convince me the world was cooling”.

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30. 

    Scott Obermuller

    19 February 2012

    Wow – we need to bow before J Peline because he made a lot of money and won some awards. Doug – would you care to re-think that nonsense? Let’s all think of folks that made a bunch of money and won awards. That would make them, what? How about an examination of what they espouse? NYT and Time mag? Are you kidding? There isn’t enough intellectual gravitas in those husks of what they once were to throw across the room. I’ve read a bit of Peline lately and it’s just sad. He has set a premise that he is MOR and if you’re not, you’re bad. That way, he just waves away those he disagrees with as “not MOR”. No sense in wasting time with facts, principles and discussion. He does well for himself and that will be his final reward, I’m afraid.

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31. 

    Todd Juvinall

    19 February 2012

    I did not think Keachie was a brown nose but he has now shown us he is.

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    Douglas Keachie

    19 February 2012

    The behavior and thought patterns of those who think in terms of “not MOR” or “not Tea Party” or “TOO Mormon,” are all about the same. Not much past their sophomore years at Sierra College. I’m not sure your characterization of Jeff as a “not MOR” bigot is entirely correct. I do know this, Neil Cavuto tips the scales about the same as Jeff P., and I have the photos to prove it, as well as some members of the local red shirt party apparatchik, major and minor, Logue, and his “never take a dime in government money” farming legislator friend, to mention just a couple. Would you like I should create a special gallery for you? Ah, but that would be stooping to your level. I’ll let our resident (currently on vacation?) cartoonist save it for the local Red Shirt, Union labelled, newspaper.
    Limbaugh is skinny, Trump is skinny, and then the skinniest of all just voted against gay marriage, Christie of NJ,
    

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33. 

    Douglas Keachie

    19 February 2012

    I’m not sure why it put in two of them, but you do have to scroll right to appreciate his full majesty.

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    Douglas Keachie

    19 February 2012

    Part of the problem is that the Internet has initiated new meanings for “<” and “>” . On the internet, those symbols often are used when brackets or parens would be more appropriate. The end result is the poor kid below reads the math test as it was not intended to be read.
    

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35. 

    Gregory

    19 February 2012

    Can someone divine how the last few posts relate to this thread?
    Todd, Keachie has been a Pelline lickspittle for quite some time. It might be the similarity of Cal degrees in Rhetoric and Anthropology that draws them to the same conclusions regarding math and science, of which they both have little knowledge or apparent aptitude.

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    billy T

    19 February 2012

    Dougie, a dummy like me can’t figure out your scroll to the right. I don’t wish ill for the fat sailor, not in the least. I just don’t read his blog, never again. His comments on other people’s blogs reveal a bitter spiteful man who has no tolerance for dissenting views or a free flowing exchange of ideas. Reminds me of the bully who runs crying home to Mommie when somebody finally punches back. Sad and pathetic. I had enough when the fat boy whined and cried that someone mentioned a private school his child may or may not attended while praising public schools. Geez, you would have thought they mentioned fat boy’s social security number and bank account passwords. The sky is falling and now they were worried about school security and perhaps body guards. Funny, I never complained when he, as editor, published the deans list of my kids in The Union in grade and middle schools without my permission. Any ill willed person could have figured out that the kids would be attending those schools the following year as they were not graduates yet. Its this sense of self importance that turned me off. Also, people that have written nice well thought out comments on his bloggie voicing a different opinion find it darn near impossible to have those toned down opinions posted, unlike here. Heck, it George played by the fat boy’s rules, neither you or I would be allowed here. BTY, The Union had a small piece the other day that Mr. Crabb is starting his own blog on local issues and I certainly wish him well in his latest foray into a new endeavor. Yasser Arafat got himself one of those important pieces of paper you hang on the wall. Think is was called the Nobel Peace Prize. He must have been real smart to get himself such an important certificate. 25 years ago I took down all the framed pieces of paper on my wall and tossed them in the wastebasket. Basket was too small so I had to get a bigger trash bag. Wish I still had that tee shirt a friend gave me with his point coming across loud and clear. The shirt simply said “I USED TO…” Guess it is better to be a has been than a never was.

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37. 

    John Galt

    19 February 2012

    Mr. Keachie 0517pm — I believe it has been fully revealed that “Sierra Food Wine and Art magazine” is a collection of advertisements interspersed with still other advertisements disguised as reviews.
    Somehow it escaped me that you were part of “the enterprise”.
    …not that it would affect your objectivity in your remarks on these blogs.
    –John Galt

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38. 

    Douglas Keachie

    19 February 2012

    Little aptitude in Math, or science, as measured by what? SAT’s ? Or by the judgments and pronouncements of the genuine mathematical wizard of the County, the ALL SEEING, ALL KNOWING, CONDESCENDING MATHOCOLOGIST who’s so easy to find, because he keeps on laying big ones wherever he goes. And, who has no known sense of humor, unlike Todd Juvinal who paved the way for the last phrase.
    The math image post plainly relates to the problem in this country were having with teaching.
    The fat related aspect of this thread was started by Bill Tozer and various other folk chime in with other deliberate derisions of his character, via what I would take to be jealous comments about his magazine. Of course Jeff id the only one who knows whether it is successful or not, finacially, but according to Gregory, the ALL MIGHTY BRAIN of the universe, if the magazine is merely as Greg describes it in disparaging terms, “His FoodWineArt magazine is a glossy advertiser held together with a minimum of content.” then all the folks advertising therein must know next to nothing about “doin’ bidness.” Greg of course does know that area so well, which is why he lives so close to the airport.
    Sometimes he reminds me of L Ron Hubbard:
    “”The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the tone scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered. It is not necessary to produce a world of clears in order to have a reasonable and worthwhile social order; it is only necessary to delete those individuals who range from 2.0 down, either by processing them enough to get their tone level above the 2.0 line – a task which, indeed, is not very great, since the amount of processing in many cases might be under fifty hours, although it might also in others be in excess of two hundred – or simply quarantining them from the society.”

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    Douglas Keachie

    20 February 2012

    Scroll to right worked fine in preview of comment, does not work in Firefox under Win7 either. Don’t wish to try George’s patience by posting a more proper sized image. My own stuff is always scaled just about right. I forgot to check when posting this. If you look up Christie NJ on Flickr, you can find the original. I think most Rebame readers can make substantial criticisms without resorting to body style insults. A fair amount of apparent “fat” in some people is simply genetic, and very, very, hard to change. Besides, look at the business he’s in, and consider the amount of great food and wine he is exposed to. I’d be at 350 in no time!

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    Douglas Keachie

    20 February 2012

    I am not part of the Pelline enterprise. I usually have a photo or two published in Sierra Gold Magazine. My most recent publication in print is in the Merry Widow Gazette, about page 5, of their race cart entry. My stuff has been published in print all around the globe, and my online stuff still is. I am not particuarly actively selling these days, as I enjoy putzing about the ranch, and playing with the dogs, and meandering through the Internmet. I stopped supplying quality images to The Union, when it became clear that my stopping, shooting a wreck, or other event of interest, editing the images, sending them up online, or via email to the editor, and having them publish the images, was not even worth a free subscription to me, let alone payment.

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    Douglas Keachie

    20 February 2012

    BTW, is not The Union, likewise largely a string of news stories about local entrepeneurs, surrounded by a police blotter, some sports, a bit of news, and tons of advertising? Is that a bad thing? seems to me the two Jeff’s have something in common. The only no advertising newsources are Yubanet and Yubanet. KVMR does for the lefty businesses what The Union does for righty businesses.

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    billy T

    20 February 2012

    Doug, think I am the only one on this thread to mention the word fat, fat boy, or fat sailor. The other posters have too much class and discipline to utter just base descriptions. After reading a few of the fat boy’s comments on the old Union threads and other places, I notice a common theme emerging that I shan’t forget. The theme was eloquently worded threats of having his lawyer sue this one or that one for defaming his esteemed character. Sure, they may have been idle threats to discourage anyone from dissing the sacred fat cow and it was effective in shutting down conservations on subjects fat boy was not particularly fond of the direction they were taking. So, I use the endearing terms fat, fat boy, and fat sailor and no other phrase. I look at it this way. The fat boy can haul me into court for slander or dissing him. My lawyer would turn it all around and make the plaintiff prove he/she is not fat or a fat boy.

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43. 

    George Rebane

    20 February 2012

    Gentlemen – that Jeff Pelline and his following have disparaged TechTest and TechForum is a matter of record. Along with all of ours, Jeff Pelline’s character has been revealed for years in the comment streams of RR and other blogs. Let’s cut this thread now, GregG (1051pm) is right.
    BTW, DougK, your new found talent for posting graphics on RR needs refinement. Please reduce the size of the graphics to comfortably fit into standard window sizes so that the pages load fast.

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    Douglas Keachie

    20 February 2012

    George, I already noted the error and the cause, and will try to keep things to less than a quarter the screen real estate or smaller.
    “eloquently worded threats of having his lawyer sue this one or that one for defaming his esteemed character. ”
    ertainly there’s nobody here who has made such veiled threats under similar circumstances, now is there?
    Let’s not knock the sailors, for I am one, and now’s the time for a perfect seqway over to the other more recent topic:
    And Jesus was a sailor
    When he walked upon the water
    And he spent a long time watching
    From his lonely wooden tower
    And when he knew for certain
    Only drowning men could see him
    He said “All men shall be sailors then
    Until the sea shall free them”
    But he himself was broken
    Long before the sky would open
    Forsaken, almost human
    He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone
    And you want to travel with him
    And you want to travel blind
    And you think you’ll maybe trust him
    For he’s touched your perfect body with his mind.

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45. 

    John Galt

    20 February 2012

    George 0755: Okay, for now. But I hope this is revisited when the BOS consider increasing the Pelline Enterprise role (and budget) in promoting tourism. JP’s disparaging comments for TechForum suggest to me that he is not impartial enough to have a significant role in promoting the County’s tourism effort.
    –John Galt

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    Gregory

    20 February 2012

    “JP’s disparaging comments for TechForum suggest to me that he is not impartial enough to have a significant role in promoting the County’s tourism effort.”
    There is not an impartial bone in Pelline’s corpulent body; math and science in Pelline’s world at the moment is a placeholder for advocacy of CO2 alarmism. Pelline and friends were attacking TechTest for what they assumed it would be, which is bigotry, pure and simple.
    Good news, checking the FUE’s blog, they’re continuing to remark on TechTest and the upcoming event. Frisch is apparently reading RR and reporting back to them about what they should think.
    Frisch, unlike me at Pelline’s, you’re free to leave a thought at RR but I suppose if you can’t take the heat you really should stay out of the kitchen.

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    Michael Anderson

    20 February 2012

    Mr. “Galt,” I fail to see a connection between the ability to promote tourism and having a negative opinion of SESF. They have nothing to do with each other.

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    Gregory

    20 February 2012

    MA, it’s the bigotry Pelline shows to folks who don’t share Pelline’s views that is the problem. Pelline is a self promoter who would very likely not be even handed about what businesses and events would be featured.
    For example, this upcoming SESF event. Do you really think Pelline would lift a finger to help had he control of County funds intended to promote such things? He is a divisive partisan hack with a mean streak as wide as his butt.

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    Gregory

    20 February 2012

    “Little aptitude in Math, or science, as measured by what?”
    Words, deeds, and choices of what you spent your time on when you went to college. Hint, anthropology and rhetoric are on the bottom of the list for math and science content.

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    We Can Work Together

    20 February 2012

    “Pelline is a self promoter who would very likely not be even handed about what businesses and events would be featured.”
    My understanding of the gig is that it’s about maintaining the site, while the content comes from the various chambers. I took a quick peek at gonevadacounty-dot-com and that’s sure what it looks like.
    I defer to Ted Owens on this: http://www.knco.com/Local/2842771-County-Awards-125-Economic-Development.html

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