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George Rebane

In today’s Union, James Hinman calls for a new high school in Nevada County that focuses on producing graduates who are able to go directly into the workforce and begin earning a living at a job that can develop into a career path (here)  These pages have long argued that today’s colleges focus on providing its students with expensive, gratuitous meathead degrees that prepare them for very little in real life.  Additionally, we recall that high schools used to prepare young people for the workforce in many highly technical and high paying positions.

ShopClassI am the beneficiary of such a high school.  Recently I again summarized my experience here in a comment stream –

I believe that shutting down high school shop (occupational) programs was a very big mistake. Especially since they kept a lot of the politically correct crap for curriculum. I took the full course of ‘shop classes’ in Indiana, and was subsequently able to work summers in industry besides men who were my father’s age. In California, I hired on as a draftsman (promoted to designer) on the strength of what I learned in my high school year of drafting. My wages were such that I could have quit school and made a rewarding career, and raised a family on what I learned in high school. Instead, my summer drafting job paid for a physics degree from Univ of Calif. And my story was not unique, high school prepared us for life in those days.

In the past decades high school has become a remedial institution for dysfunctional grade schools, and in the large, college has become a remedial institution for dysfunctional high schools.  The political orientation of teachers and curriculum shares most of the blame for this.  Mr Hinman suggests the formation of a new charter ‘votech’ (my term) high school.

I would like to see this approach discussed, planned, and implemented along a procedural path that sidesteps, as much as possible, the corrupted teaching establishment.  The aim here should be to develop a votech high school that can also serve as a template for other communities similarly motivated – i.e. the proverbial ‘movable feast’.  Industry and commerce should be the prime partners (both in planning and funding) in this enterprise.  And no one should expect clear sailing to build such votech schools here or elsewhere.  The progressive elements in Nevada County and across the country will come out swinging against this student and jobs oriented revamp of high schools, for it will shake the very foundation of their long-established sinecures.

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116 responses to “The Vocational Technical High School”

  1. George Rebane Avatar

    GregG 1016pm – “Really, George, music and fine arts are not the reason for the shape schools are in, and they don’t provide training sufficient to make a living at it, and never have. However, it does provide enough experience for a potential musician to discover their talent, and that is appropriate for schools.” I think we’re going to have to work harder in finding something to joust over. Your implying claims that I have never made, some of which I’m even 180 out on, makes for short dialogues.

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  2. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Glad to see Greg and George can play nicely together, and once again I’ll note the connection between music, math , and programming skills. I love listening to all kinds of music, and I’m sure Greg would agree that’s about all I do with programming and math.
    Walt, yes, this is my first and only machine. Other than a few simple instructions from Gold Country Kubota staff, and tips from Frank Jones, I am self taught.

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  3. George Rebane Avatar

    There is no contest about the cognitive connection between music and math (even programming skills). This was proven some years back by my colleague, Topanga neighbor, friend, and tennis buddy of many years, Dr James Catterall, professor emeritus at UCLA’s School of Education and Information (http://gseis.ucla.edu/people/catterall) With industry sponsors, he launched a longitudinal study and curriculum program (in Kentucky and Tennessee school systems) that combined the teaching of the arts with math instruction which demonstrated the collateral benefits of such a union. Catterall is well-published and nationally known in the education industry.
    Were starting a votech school to go beyond the talking stage, I would go to him for input. (BTW, I’m a hack self-taught piano player who now enjoys playing out of fake books.)

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  4. Walt Avatar
    Walt

    Like I said Keach,, I can teach you how to get more out of what you have. The salesman showed you how to make it move. ONE person gave you some “tips”. Sorry my friend, you have a LONG way to go and a LOT to learn. ( now through the university of hard knocks)
    Let me suggest you keep the role bar in place, since what you have, they do fold down. A canopy is a must for beginners. They will keep you alive.

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  5. Kathy Jones Avatar
    Kathy Jones

    Who do you think has the best chance of finding a job today: A history major or a licensed car mechanic?
    Enough said!

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  6. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    “I’m not inclined to travel on that track of logic, because heading in the opposite direction would recommend spending public monies to also teach kids to flatulate in key and perform the national anthem at sporting events (cf Mr Methane the flatulist and his 19th century predecessor Le Petomane). I think we may reasonably define the bounds of skill sets benefiting society in the aggregate that should be candidates for public funding.” GR, 12/5 1:58PM
    George, there were enough negatives in that to confuse just what you were trying to say. Music has been accepted as a basic liberal (not a red flag in context) art since before the founding of our republic. Music notation is a technology with over a 1000 year history, and while flatulating in Francis Scott Key at sporting events may benefit society in a small way, it does more to help the young musician learn basic performance skills.
    K-12 isn’t a trade school. There should be more trade school elements in the latter grades to fill the needs of society and of students who will choose to practice the vocational arts, but paring away everything that isn’t metal shop or the hard sciences isn’t an option.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    GregG 1224pm – I count ONE negative, and it just says I don’t agree with your logic, and give a counter example in its use. And I have no idea who you are responding to because the addressed points are not any that I have made here. Perhaps you meant to counter someone else.

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  8. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    The “not inclined”, “opposite direction” and the potty references are all negatives, George.

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  9. bill tozer Avatar
    bill tozer

    This is what vocational school can train ya for. Not just anybody can make this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLAtaiv5VA

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  10. Russ Steele Avatar

    Joel Kotkin writing at the City Journal —Wanted: Blue-Collar Workers
    Who will power America’s new industrial revolution?
    The natural-gas boom is generating demand for skilled labor across the Midwest.
    To many, America’s industrial heartland may look like a place mired in the economic past—a place that, outcompeted by manufacturing countries around the world, has too little work to offer its residents. But things look very different to Karen Wright, the CEO of Ariel Corporation in Mount Vernon, Ohio. Wright’s biggest problem isn’t a lack of work; it’s a lack of skilled workers. “We have a very skilled workforce, but they are getting older,” says Wright, who employs 1,200 people at three Ohio factories. “I don’t know where we are going to find replacements.”
    That may sound odd, given that the region has suffered from unemployment for a generation and is just emerging from the worst recession in decades. Yet across the heartland, even in high-unemployment areas, one hears the same concern: a shortage of skilled workers capable of running increasingly sophisticated, globally competitive factories. That shortage is surely a problem for manufacturers like Wright. But it also represents an opportunity, should Americans be wise enough to embrace it, to reduce the nation’s stubbornly high unemployment rate.
    You can read the rest here: http://www.city-journal.org/2011/21_4_skilled-labor.html

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  11. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    “There is no contest about the cognitive connection between music and math (even programming skills).”
    All true, but music’s value as an academic subject stands on its own.

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  12. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Indeed it does.
    Walt, only an idiot would remove the roll bar or lower it. The canopy was another $500. I am a serial beach umbrella killer, pvc pipe duct taped to the roll bar.

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  13. Douglas Keachie Avatar
    Douglas Keachie

    Bill Tozer, here’s what the field looked like afterwards, from the air:
    http://ifunny.mobi/#3137595

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  14. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    This just came up on a pilot’s email list, quite apropos to the topic here:
    Shopcraft as Soulcraft: An Inquiry Into the Value of Work
    http://www.amazon.com/Shop-Class-Soulcraft-Inquiry-Value/dp/1594202230

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  15. George Rebane Avatar

    Here’s a report from the Public Policy Institute of California titled ‘The Great Recession and Distribution of Income in California’
    http://www.ppic.org/main/publication.asp?i=965
    Among other things, it shows the effect of decades of liberal mismanagement of the Golden State. In this recession California has taken harder knocks than the rest of the country. And part of that reflects the class war dependence of the state basing its tax revenues overwhelmingly on the shoulders of the ‘rich’, people whose incomes are volatile and who have the smarts to move early and often. (Thanks to Russ Steele for the heads up on this.)

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  16. Russ Steele Avatar

    The City Journal has a very interesting article by Joel Kotkin : Wanted: Blue-Collar Workers
    Who will power America’s new industrial revolution?
    It is recommended reading by everyone trying to understand the problem and potential solutions.

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