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Nevada City Occupied

19 October 2011

George Rebane

On a mild October late afternoon with fall colors in the air, about 150 good-hearted but misguided people gathered to express their opposition to …, well, it was hard to say. But a theme that tried to surface was that ‘Corporations are bad, peace is good’. A couple of Nevada City’s finest stayed quietly in the background; no one expected trouble and no one delivered it. It was just a planned demonstration of solidarity with those in the big cities like New York and Los Angeles who want to pull down capitalism and replace it with communism. OK, so they’ll start with socialism, but the communists are a patient lot and know that their turn (opportunity?) will come soon enough – socialism is just a slippery slope to their front door. No one really knew what they were doing, it was just a nice evening to assemble, walk, protest our sick economy, and while we may, enjoy this great gift which we call the United States of America.

Posted in Agenda 21, Current Affairs, Happenings, Nevada County, Our Country

87 responses to “Nevada City Occupied”

Todd Juvinall

19 October 2011

You sure it just wasn’t the growers market?

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Russ Steele

19 October 2011

There were more people at the Broadband Rally, than at this rally. Thanks for taking the pictures. We were just wondering what had taken place and visit The Union web page and the usual lefty web and blog pages looking for some insight, and came up empty. You filled the bill nicely. Thanks!

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Martin

19 October 2011

Stopping at the NC BoA to deposit this evening before coming home we encountered the OWS local band of fleas weakly shouting “Hey Hey Ho Ho This Corporation Has Gotta Go” (repeat), etc. We saw still and video cameras set up at a couple of spots to record the collective marching. The smell of Hemp was in the air. LOL comrades.
Should be interesting when the temperature drops and the rain/snow falls what fleas will be walking in this ‘band of comrades.’

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2011

Hey hey ho ho, I won’t march in the snow!

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Ben Emery

19 October 2011

George,
Thank you for your cordial and thoughtful opposition piece.
The restoration of the rule of law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAhHPIuTQ5k&feature=player_embedded
Occupy Nevada County is about solidarity with the bigger metro area’s that have major financial districts.
Our government represented the banks and left the people out in the cold, literally, the foreclosure epidemic continues on.
It was marijuana (medicinal of course)not hemp, it should be legalized or decriminalized.
BofA, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, Chase should all be broken up into multiple banks. Goldman Sachs should be dissolved.

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bill tozer

19 October 2011

Thank for Dr. Rebane for capturing the atmosphere of the event. Sounds like it was nice quiet peaceful assembly of people on a lazy Wednesday fall afternoon. I was a bit taken back by the pictures that appear to be devoid of people of color. Yes, some of us enlightened ones see everything through the prism of color, but I will overlook this grievous outrage in a gracious attempt to relate with the common man in Nevada City. All in all, I wish I was there but was too busy stacking my gold coins. Todd, me thinks BofA will remain standing for a day or two after good ole boy Warren Buffet recapitalized the Bank with a few billion. Hmmm, didn’t BofA announce it will charge 5 bucks a month to use their debit card shortly after Warren bailed them out? Warren ain’t no dummy and he is business to make a profit. But, I will overlook that fault of his as well. Too bad the dearly departed Citizen’s Bank could not find a Sugar Daddy like Warren to recapitalize the local bank.. Maybe BofA will listen to the wishes of the Occupy Nevada City illustrious ones and pull up stakes and get out of Nevada City. Then the fair City can open their people’s bank, complete with non-cash tokens. See ya’ll in Burger Basin

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Walt

19 October 2011

This IS “New Berkeley” you know,,.. so this was bound to happen.

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D. King

19 October 2011

From what I have heard that branch is closing.
Here is OWS (Oakland)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=tuFQuEwJ5xI

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Paul Emery

19 October 2011

Pretty dramatic stuff George
Who are these Communists George? Where do they meet? Do they take turns reading Marx and plan in secret cellars their next phase of world domination? Gee, I know a lot of the folks out there on Broad Street and they seem pretty nice to me. I’d have never known they were part of the conspiracy started by Marx and Engels in the 1860’s.
Let’s salute the banksters then and the Republicrats who are the real peoples champions.
So Communism is the next stop after Socialism. Gee, they’ve been waiting for 60 years in Denmark to take over but so far they are still lurking. Pretty patient lot those commies.

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George Rebane

19 October 2011

PaulE – did you really read the above post???

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Michael Anderson

19 October 2011

I drove my art truck on Union and Broad Streets. That was the highlight of my late afternoon. Yay dirty hippies!! (-;

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2011

D. King’s link is too funny. After watching it I clicked on some more Youtubes OWS LINKS AND IT APPEARS OUR COUNTRY;S EDUCATION SYSTEM HAS failed miserably. Failed at least for our present capitalist system but not for the deceased communist system.

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D. King

19 October 2011

I looked at those too. Tee he he!
A lot of great Agenda 21 videos Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsBiXNvp9ec&feature=relmfu

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D. King

19 October 2011

LOL!
Howard Stern Exposes Occupy Wall St. Morons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJPKMvWDmY&feature=related

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Ben Emery

19 October 2011

Why do you guys feel the need to ridicule anyone who disagrees with your point of view? Which one were you, the bullies or the bullied growing up? The personal insecurity is very evident with every post that is filled with name calling and ridicule.

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Todd Juvinall

19 October 2011

Oh please enough of the 2nd grade psychology. Grow up.

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Michael Anderson

19 October 2011

Todd, I challenge you to take a drive with me in my art truck. I double-dare you!

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D. King

19 October 2011

Ben,
The “…Morons” in the above is the title of the YouTube video.
“Why do you guys feel the need to ridicule anyone who disagrees with your point of view?”
I spent years with my ass frozen to flight lines launching U2s in support of NATO to bring the wall down and free people. So forgive me when I see and hear the same broken records being played by, sorry for this, clueless people.

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bill tozer

19 October 2011

What a riot you guys!! Kinda of hard to discount the videos, but it is possible they were doctored by some evil Republicans, Libertarians, or worse, by Constitutionalists. Thanks for the much needed laughs and excuse me for being a sexist pig as well as a capitalistic pig. Oink, oink. Yes, I should have said “you people” instead of “you guys”, but I did not want to offend any of “those people.” You know who you are. Ben Emery, I have read carefully each and every word in your last post and have pondered every syllable in great detail. Mr. Emery, I want you to know that I heard you and your opinion is important to me and you are worthwhile, valuable, and have a right to be here. May the wind continue to be at your back, oh precious child of the universe. Thank you for sharing.

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Greg Goodknight

19 October 2011

Sorry Ben, but many not on the left think the left can be pretty silly. It’s the flip side of the left tending towards thinking the non-left are either evil or stupid, which is the message the local lefty blog(s) promote(s). It’s very possible you just don’t notice when it isn’t your oxen being gored.
From the looks of the same old faces, I suspect OWS-NC could share the Peace Center/Handgun Control booth at the next County Fair without adding to the booth space, assuming the phenomenon lasts that long.

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Ben Emery

19 October 2011

You can look at my comments on all public forums and I generally stay away from making fun of peoples positions, every once in awhile I will out of frustration. I don’t agree with the Tea Party solutions but defend their rage over at SFR all the time. But at RR it seems to be par for the course for many regulars.
So are you guys saying that there should be a test for intelligence before a person should be allowed to vote?
Here is the latest post about the TP
http://sierrafoothillsreport.com/2011/10/19/meckler-hell-yes-it-bothers-me-to-be-compared-to-ows/#comment-40108

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Eric Anderson

20 October 2011

Berta the Juvinhauler!

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Larry Wirth

20 October 2011

Great idea, Ben! An intelligence test is asking, maybe, too much, but a literacy test sounds about right.

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Ben Emery

20 October 2011

It wasn’t my idea, it was used throughout history to prevent those who didn’t share the ideas of the ruling class from having a say in their government. It was a favorite tool of the Southern United States to disenfranchise a specific type of voter. Have your read this article about 2012 voting in America?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
Techniques of Direct Disenfranchisement, 1880-1965
http://www.umich.edu/~lawrace/disenfranchise1.htm
Literacy Tests
“The first implicit literacy test was South Carolina’s notorious “eight-box” ballot, adopted in 1882. Voters had to put ballots for separate offices in separate boxes. A ballot for the governor’s race put in the box for the senate seat would be thrown out. The order of the boxes was continuously shuffled, so that literate people could not assist illiterate voters by arranging their ballots in the proper order. The adoption of the secret ballot constituted another implicit literacy test, since it prohibited anyone from assisting an illiterate voter in casting his vote. In 1890, Southern states began to adopt explicit literacy tests to disenfranchise voters. This had a large differential racial impact, since 40-60% of blacks were illiterate, compared to 8-18% of whites. Poor, illiterate whites opposed the tests, realizing that they too would be disenfranchised. To placate them, Southern states adopted an “understanding clause” or a “grandfather clause,” which entitled voters who could not pass the literacy test to vote, provided they could demonstrate their understanding of the meaning of a passage in the constitution to the satisfaction of the registrar, or were or were descended from someone eligible to vote in 1867, the year before blacks attained the franchise …”

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Greg Goodknight

20 October 2011

The infamous “butterfly ballot” was a fine IQ filter. More than that probably doesn’t pass constitutional smell tests.

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Todd Juvinall

20 October 2011

BenE’s link to his comment on the leftwingnut blog is very telling and a perfect example of his twisted logic. He says he is being fair to the TPP and the OWS in that post and does not denigrate. Well golly, he says the TPP are tools of the Koch brothers and that the TPP is fragmenting and what is left is a John Birch group of wannabees. Amazing self delusion. )WW2 veterans and their wives BenE?) Was there a like minded set of comments on the OWS? Nope, because BenE is simpatico with the loony leftwingnuts and it would be heresy to say anything derogatory (and as repetitive) about the OWS.
BenE, you are a cartoon here and even over there. No one takes you seriously because you are wishy-washy and a accomplished fibber about your positions. We on the right honor America and its wonders while all you leftwingers try to tear it apart. You and the OWS are simply hippies who loiter around the edges of our wonderful country, taking apart the true Patriots, that is too bad.

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Todd Juvinall

20 October 2011

The butterfly ballot. Now that was funny! I watched carefully all of the angst from Florida and was amazed the media at the time blamed Republicans fore the ballot when it was designed by the democrats in control of the elections there. That was a turning point for many people across the country into the liberal bias of the media. It did say a lot about the intelligence of the democrat voter. I remember they were saying they thought they were voting for Gore and the vote came out as Buchanan (I think). Lambs to the packing house, those voters were too stupid to read the instructions.

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George Rebane

20 October 2011

‘Who can work, who may vote’ has taken this question around the proverbial barn several times.
http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/09/who-can-work-who-may-vote.html
Jefferson’s ‘A nation ignorant and free, that never was and never shall be.’ This has been a template for how to direct a nation to socialism for decades, and the teachers’ unions have been an extremely effective tool in its implementation.

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bill tozer

20 October 2011

In a related bit of news, police report a rash of thefts at the OWS/NYC. Case in point is a young lady of 18 is very upset when her Mac laptop was stolen from her tent at OWS/NYC. She is distraught at the thought that one of her fellow occupiers would do such a thing. Said it is a $4,500 Mac. Hmmm. The recent Mac Pro I purchased and had it built to the max at the factory with Microsoft Word, hi res screen, 8 gigs, 4 way processor, other bells and whistles came to $2,400 plus tax. Even if I beefed it up with solid state drive it still would come under $3,5000. So, this story begs some questions: Was the young lady a product of our government run school system, thus explaining her math proficiencies? Why was a 18 year old with a $4,500 Mac protesting capitalism? Who would be dumb enough to bring valuables such as she described to the streets of NYC? Wonder if she missed some of the street action while waiting in line at the Apple Store…new I-phone is out. Hope her wait was not too long and hope she made it back to her tent in time to share solidarity with the oppressed workers…er…oppressed 18 year olds of the world!

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

Need a picture of our host?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keachie/6262935086/in/set-72157627935466616
Up there along with another 300 plus pictures and a few still cam video clips, including the all important bongo shot, and, of course, a couple of Michael’s car. BTW, Greg, having an IQ above room temperature means never having to say, “I’m sorry.” You sound like John Denver in one of his less important love songs.

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Paul Emery

20 October 2011

“It was just a planned demonstration of solidarity with those in the big cities like New York and Los Angeles who want to pull down capitalism and replace it with communism.”
I did read it George. It was the same old description of well intended but misguided citizens having an outing as a gateway drug to socialism then Communism. The problem is that it’s simply not true. Show me one modern country in the last 50 years that has gone that route? I’m talking Communist here, capital letters because if I read you right that’s what you meant. Countries that you consider Socialistic, such as in Scandinavian Europe have not gone in that direction and show no inclination to do so since the citizens there have a high regard for their liberties and do not empower their military or police with the scope of resources that it would take to install and enforce a Communist dictatorship.
George, I think you go way to far in your extrapolations about what this rather folksy and very appropriate movement, if you can even call it that, is. Combined with the Tea Party on the other side of he street it sends a loud message of dissatisfaction to the powers that be that is well deserved. Now if they got smart and coordinated a well focused consumer strike of say 20% on selected targets heads would roll. My guess is that’s the next step and it will be fun to watch.

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

I also note no mention here of Michael Dell, of TEXAS, opening a new plant here, in CALIFORNIA, employing 1,500 people? Here’s my comment from another well known blog of the area, which did post on the subject.
“maybe Dell is one of those folks who understands that California is home to the brightest and best, who choose to protest the destruction what I call, “The expectation of Cultural Economic Continuity.”
Had events like the wholesale exporting of jobs, factories, and so on, to third world countries with not a care in the world for how it affected the 99%, had been going on in 1776, I have no doubt all kinds of protections would have been written into the Constitution.
The retirement plans of the 99%, both public and private, have been destroyed or at least seriously compromised, by the reckless moves of the 1%’ers, as well as the overall tax base needed to support the infrastructure for the ongoing workings of the day to day American economy. Those who fly in private jets from compound to compound could apparently not give a tinker’s dam about the cracks and wholesale renderings of the structure of the economy the 99%’ers depend on.
The unions did NOT overcharge for their pensions, they were set up with the notion that the American economy would not be deliberately and maliciously sabotaged by the 1%’ers, leaving the tax base in shambles, a shadow of it’s former self. What Milken and others did with private industry pensions, one by one during the 1980′s, the 1%’ers have done with the entire economy, starting during the 1990′s.
Pictures of yesterday demonstrations are up at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/keachie/collections/72157627003553262/ “

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

Maybe Todd won’t make hey hey ho ho and march in the snow, but many of these people will, and HAVE, just last spring, no less.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keachie/5542056536/in/set-72157626179727117/lightbox/

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

The turnouts for this week’s and last weeks easily equals the turnout for the Tea Party Patriots for both the Fourth of July and the Constitution Day parades, which are held during the summer, with advanced notice and the ability to draw from all over NorCal and beyond. ONC does not have that draw, as there are Occupy Sacramento, Occupy San Francisco, and so on. One more demonstration, already scheduled for next week, and Occupy Nevada County will have exceeded the marcher output of the Tea Party Patriots by 50% for the year, and the group didn’t even exist 8 weeks ago.

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Ben Emery

20 October 2011

George,
I agree with you that the American public has been dumb down but through bread and circus not due to public education. The number one factor in academic success (learning and critical thinking) is support in the home. Our economy has been turned into two parent working households to have the same purchasing power as a single household of the 50 – 70’s. I won’t go down the usual list but once again looking back at history it was the 80’s when the big shift took place and what party line republicans refuse to admit in those 30 plus years they have been at the controls a majority of time. Including the Obama administration deficits 82% of the national debt came from republican administrations. Please don’t get into the house initiates the spending. In that case this republican congress should be taking the blame for the Obama deficits.
I will post the link to this book once again, I know you are a hard science guy but think you would enjoy the read. It really doesn’t go into liberal/ conservative dichotomy but look at the generational archetypes.
http://www.fourthturning.com/html/fourth_turning.html
http://www.fourthturning.com/html/history___turnings.html

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Ben Emery

20 October 2011

Paul,
Baby steps, I also saw the misleading remarks about communism but the overall piece was a difference in opinion. George is rising above his conservative regulars with slowly leaving the overt divisive rhetoric out of the dialogue. And for that I will thank you again George.

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Walt

20 October 2011

It looks more like a group that just want to re-live the “stoned ages” one last time, and are now “teaching” the younger generation, ” This is how WE did it back in the good old days. The only thing missing is the smell of tear gas. This pepper spray they use today is nothing in comparison to the “good stuff”. ”
So let them have their moment of reliving their past. The cold snap will soon be here, and then we will see who the real diehards are.

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

Hey walt, you missed this post. Now please come up with a picture with as many Tea Party Patriots, demonstrating out in the snow.
Maybe Todd won’t make hey hey ho ho and march in the snow, but many of these people will, and HAVE, just last spring, no less.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keachie/5542056536/in/set-72157626179727117/lightbox/

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Ben Emery

20 October 2011

Todd,
You are like a bad addiction. No matter how much I try to avoid you I talk myself into one more time.
I don’t think you know what the term ridicule means so here is the definition
Ridicule- Subject to mockery and derision.
Not once in my comment did I ridicule or make fun of TP but rather made an observation.
My opinion on the TP is there are the corporate faction and there are the grassroots. The corporate side get the news coverage, pay for the $500k buses, $100k speaking fees, the sound systems, stages, and so on. The grassroots part is much like OWS in the fact that they know something is wrong but haven’t followed government/ politics close enough to put their finger on it.
The core mission statement of TP is the same rhetoric from the republican party platform. Tax Enough Already was the mantra but as the republican party have made their counter movement to OWS the 53% excludes many if not the majority of the grassroots TP. The 53% is a very misleading use of statistics, anyone who works for a paycheck pays taxes. The 47% don’t earn enough to pay federal income taxes. Those would have been your laborers that you charged your clients journeyman wages. Those will be the people serving you food at restaurants. Those are the people who ring up your groceries are tear your ticket at the theater. Or those are the people who work on the floor at the stores of the biggest employer in the United States, WalMart.
I am talking about language and how it is used.
For an example your 20 October 2011 at 08:14 AM comment contained
leftwingnut
twisted logic
loony
leftwingnuts
you are a cartoon
wishy-washy
You and the OWS are simply hippies who loiter around the edges of our wonderful country, taking apart the true Patriots, that is too bad.

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Walt

20 October 2011

Sorry Keach,, I think I will pass. When someone keeps begging for someone to ” look at MY pictures”, and also complains that the local paper won’t publish them, ( that was you,,right? ) and say he won’t buy a subscription in protest, is a little on the childish side of things. So you might have some people on a snowy day. Remember the VETS that beat the protesters there? WE showed up long before the first “peacenik” did. So like usual, the VETS are the ” First in,, last out”.

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Russ Steele

20 October 2011

Ben,
The Tea Party comes in several flavors. The grass roots organization is the Tea Party Patriots. The Tea Party Express with the bus and speaking fees in run by a GOP associated PR firm. There are several other flavors, including The Tea Party.net which is the voice of an Washington based Tea Party organization. Yes, I know it is confusing, but the largest organizations and the true grass roots organization is the Tea Party Patriots. If you have not been to any of the local TPP events, you may want to go and see what is really going on. Most of the sound systems are donated. Many of the TPP organizations have web page and blogs and run training programs on the Constitution, Community Leadership and Community Organizations,and hold public forums. The member are not uninformed. Do not be baffled by those seeking public recognition, most of the TPP activities are going on behind the scenes. Just check out the latest parades, the TPP were the largest organizations in numbers and will be most effective in the coming election.

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

Walt, I took photos over at The Union gathering site for the march, BEFORE I came back, parked, and found about 10 vets on the bridge. I rather susupect you lose this one. Please note images were posted for free, non profit and personal use, and The Union still wouldn’t publish the link. I’ve since spoken with Brian Hamilton and kissed and made up. How come “Sorry” is such a favorite in the Sarcasticon of Rightys?

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Ben Emery

20 October 2011

Russ,
I agree with most of what you wrote but I do know many people in the NCTPP and their understanding of how government works and who has been responsible for the policies that have brought our country to our knees isn’t that high. You guys need to remember I have been coaching pretty much year round (2 to 3 sports) in the area for 8 years or so (12 or more players per team). I know many people from all political stripes. I am very approachable and cordial to those who I might disagree so political conversations are part of our relationship. I listen to KNCO radio all the time and I mostly hear the grassroots NCTPP repeating of talking points of the echo chamber but very little comprehension of those talking points. This isn’t an insult but an observation that I mentioned before about people knowing something is wrong but haven’t been following government/ politics close enough to know exactly what is going on. Unless someone is a political wonk they don’t follow policy to closely and it is understandable that people are kind of blank when asked.
Here is a article by former Reagan and HW Bush administration Bruce Bartlett in Forbes about this very topic in 2010
http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/18/tea-party-ignorant-taxes-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett.html

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Douglas Keachie

20 October 2011

And, BTW, I am working my way up to 1 Million Views. Added the most recent 100,000 in less than four months. Why/ because it’s there. Here’s a screen shot of today’s stats:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/keachie/6264012701/in/photostream/lightbox/

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bill tozer

20 October 2011

Douglas, thanks for posting the pics. One sign I really liked was Ready For Change, albeit I would have worded it to read “Where is the Change?”. They looked like a gentle lot on the sidewalks enjoying themselves. Did not see any signs decrying the voting shenanigans immediately following the War Between the States in the 1870’s so I am puzzled why this thread went there. Oh, I remember. Change the topic, deflect, avoid, and the best defensive appears to be an good offensive. Wonder what kind of political beast would jump from the leisurely stroll in Nevada City to 1870. Wasn’t around then, so maybe it resembled the Tea Pot Dome scandal of Grant’s administration. No tear gas on the streets back then either. Who knows what lurks in the heart of man, but thanks Doug for keeping on topic.

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D. King

20 October 2011

Douglas Keachie
Thanks for the pictures Doug.
Ben,
“I am talking about language and how it is used.”
What concerns me is not so much the language used, but the actions to ratchet, push, pull, (by block and tackle), and swing the pendulum so far to the left, that when the evitable structural failure occurs , it swings back so hard as to crush decent. Something to think about!

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D. King

20 October 2011

dissent not desent Sorry.

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D. King

20 October 2011

inevitable…more coffee!

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Mikey McD

20 October 2011

OWS sign suggestion: “Bring the troops home, use them to fight capitalism”

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Mikey McD

20 October 2011

A consumer strike (voluntary and peaceful) would do more to cripple ‘evil capitalists’ than using our parks as toilets.
The OWS mob’s hate agenda requires violence/force for ‘success.’

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