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George Rebane

Mr Mike Thornton, former KVMR news director and current volunteer correspondent for the station, often reads and comments on these pages.  By all counts, Mike holds a firm and far left view of the world and its inhabitants.  He takes exception to being identified by any of the standard collectivist labels like ‘liberal’, ‘progressive’, ‘leftwinger’, and feels they are either too revealing or cast him in a pejorative light.  As a counter to that, Mike started referring to all other RR readers across the aisle from him as “regressives”, to which he clearly means to attach a pejorative connotation.

Since ‘regressive’ is not a common reference to people of a conservative mien (nor a noun in the English language), I took him to task on the use of the concocted label and deleted his comments that carried gratuitous uses of ‘regressive’.  I have also asked him to share with us his unique definition of ‘regressive’ in the sense he means it in these pages (and elsewhere?).  As a template, I invited him to expand on his definition as I have done for  my use of ‘raghead’ – a definition which apparently eludes him and others of his ideology.  Nevertheless, in the comment stream to ‘AtPac Lawsuit – still seeking closure’ Mike has graced us with the following bagatelle on the label.  I consider that this piece sheds light on an important perception which is doubtlessly shared by many across the land, and therefore needs a more prominent place on these pages.  In his own words.


I don't use "Regressive" as you use "Raghead".  I believe that the term "regressive" is an actual description of your political agenda and world view. You use "raghead" as a way to dehumanize and entire group of people, in order to make it easier to hate them and therefore kill them.

However, my interpretation is basically this: "Regressives" want the important decisions that govern life, society and the economy of this country (and the world) to be made by the wealthy. The government simply acts as their police force and army. Of course they want courts to settle disputes amongst themselves (largely about how to divvy up the spoils that they make off of or expropriate from the workers) The idea that workers or the poor should have equal access to them or education or anything else is simply a utopian ideal fostered by "Communists". They are "poor" and they are "workers" so how could they possibly have any idea what is good for society. Much of this is based in a Calvinist theological orientation which basically says that your lot in life is an expression of God's favor or lack of same. There are many books written on this subject George and they are authored and researched by folks that are way smarter than I am.

They get very deep into the psychology of the regressive mindset and how it's based in authoritarian family structure. The authoritarian family structure is based on "discipline" and "punishment" (I would also add the need for a perpetual "enemy/other" to fight against)A discipline and punishment model along with a Calvinist orientation make the idea of social equity and or social responsibility (much less programs)anathema to those that hold an authoritarian mindset. The structure of American society has moved too far away from the values that authoritarians are comfortable with and so they are fighting to take society back to a time they they think worked better.

My exit question on this exposition is – What label do the “folks that are way smarter than (you)” use instead of ‘regressives’ in their research?  And since these labels have become established terms of art in the literature, why are they not sufficient for Mike Thornton?

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163 responses to “Of Ragheads and Regressives”

  1. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    George chooses to use the word “raghead” because he feels it’s important and is a unique discripto that is necessary to fulfill his message. It is a filter of sorts that is designed to elicit responses that he will then categorize accordingly. Kind of like injecting a chemical in a test tube to see what happens. Apparently using “radical Islamic terrorist” does not have the same meaning or elicit the desired response.

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  2. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Paul, when blacks were attacking white people coming out of the fair in Wisconsin a couple of weeks ago I didn’t see you say a word about that. Why?

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  3. Mike Thornton Avatar

    OMG, now it’s the poor white people under attack by “blacks”!

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  4. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    What does that have to do with anything here?
    Todd
    To maintain civility I think that for now it’s best we don’t converse.

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  5. Mike Thornton Avatar

    Paul:
    It’s just like Russ throwing in the thing about Diaz being a “PC Diversity, Hire”
    They just can’t help themselves!

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  6. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    “radical Islamic terrorist” is a factual discriptive… “Raghead” is a pejorative, racist term.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar

    Re SteveE’s 550pm – indeed ‘raghead’ is an intended pejorative term. Since I have declared that from the outset, it is remarkable that SteveE is again climbing aboard with that realization. However, it is not racist by any claim SteveE can make since he has given the readers no indication that he knows how to use the term racist in any other than its broad mis-application. Would he define racist for us, his use of it might be understood in the same context that we now understand how MikeT uses the pejorative ‘regressive’ to apply to me and other conservatives.

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  8. Mike Thornton Avatar

    As explained before “Regressive” is a description of a political philosophy and world view.
    Anyone regardless of race, religion or ethnic affiliation can be a “regressive”
    On the other hand “Raghead” is a well known term used to demean a specific ethno-religious group.
    That is why it is different!

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  9. George Rebane Avatar

    MikeT – actually you continue to err. As you can use ‘regressive’ for your target audience, so I can use ‘raghead’. With ‘raghead’ I intend to demean zealous, dedicated murderers of the Muslim faith who suppress their own, and who ruthlessly and wantonly kill anyone, other Muslims included, who opposes their geo-political intentions, interpretation of the Quran, or just for the purpose of showing that they are still a viable terrorist force.
    People of other ethno-religious groups who seek to become mass murderers of equal scope will have to await the assignation of their own pejorative labels. I can only do so much.

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  10. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George, these libs are simply hypocrites nothing more nothing less. PaulE and MikeT and the Steve’s dish out their attacks on Christians relentlessly then cry like babies when they don’t like your term for the terrorists. This is actually funny. Liberals are dinosaurs. I am fascinated though by their self hatred. Liberals have a missing DNA link I think. As we all see, they never answer our questions. Paul is afraid to answer my question of why he won’t discuss or condemn the attacks on whites because they were white by blacks in Wisconsin at the fair. And we see that MikeT somehow in his mind turns that fact into a racist condemnation for asking the question. Amazing

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  11. Mike Thornton Avatar

    Look, guys, everyone knows that you’re going to continue to defend your use of racist language. So don’t waste your time.

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  12. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    Liberals are the racists and the name callers.

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  13. George Rebane Avatar

    Perhaps we’ve concluded this comment stream.

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