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George Rebane

Nevada County’s cartoonist RL ‘Bob’ Crabb published another one of his blockbuster social commentaries in the 19jul11 Union.  It graphically illustrates what a good portion of the country has been taught about our nation’s economic ladder and their place on it.  And there’s more to say about that.

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Before we get to that, let me slip back into yesteryear a bit.  In the early fifties I was 12 and we lived on the outskirts of Indianapolis.  I then worked my second paper route, and from the saddlebags on my bike delivered the Indianapolis News six evenings a week.  The sister newspaper, Indianapolis Star, was a seven-day morning newspaper with a thick Sunday edition that had a big comics section.

Every Sunday morning on WIRE, one of the state’s main radio stations, was a program almost everyone listened to – ‘Uncle Wally Reads the Sunday Funnies’.   Uncle Wally Nehrling was central Indiana’s iconic radio personality and hosted all kinds of benefits, fairs, and public events.  On Sundays he was surrounded by ten to twenty kids in the studio to whom he read the funnies and had a running conversation with the youngsters.  You had to be there to understand the homely warmth that radiated from that program.

All of Indiana that I was aware of at that time spread their funny paper section on the living room floor, and followed along as Uncle Wally took us through all the cartoons.  His descriptions and patter were so good that people who did not take The Star would still listen to him.

I was one of those ‘sans funnies’ fans because my family could not afford to take another newspaper, and, of course, we were already a ‘News family’.  But that didn’t make a difference, because Uncle Wally was so good that, being familiar with the cartoons, I could just close my eyes and see the whole thing.  Sadly, it was a bygone institution because TV was rapidly invading our living rooms, and soon we’d all be watching Hoppy bring in the bad guys on Sunday mornings.

As I looked at Bob’s excellent cartoon, all of this came to mind because with that single picture he has captured so much of the ‘trickle down’ message.  One can tell a considerable story from just that one graphic.

The eye first goes to the giant fat cats wearing suits with ties that declare their value systems.  They definitely are the upper crust, larger than life, unassailable with the world in their grasp and at their mercy.  They can gorge themselves on any part of it to whatever extent it takes to satiate them.  We also see that they are co-operating in the consumption of the earth and its riches.  They seem to be building nothing, but only tearing away and diminishing what we all have inherited.  And, of course, we cannot help but notice that the source of all this wealth is quite high and out of reach.

Looking down, we see that the ground at the feet of the fat cat capitalists is filled with little people hoping to get some share of the crumbs that fall out of the jowls of the obviously selfish eaters.  Some little people have found a small piece that will satisfy them, and are carrying it away.  A few others have somehow climbed on to the fat cats’ clothing in their attempt to get closer to the source of the riches.  But they don’t seem to be making much progress, and are just hanging on precariously as the big guys ignore them and continue stuffing themselves.

Then there are the unfortunate ones who have just been trampled by the wealthy.  They have fallen victim to the blind rapacious orgy, and have paid the ultimate price.  But not to worry, more people see all the crumbs dribbling down from the selfish feast, and they are rushing up to get their share of whatever is left over that they may be lucky enough to find.

It is clear that the fat cat capitalists have no concern for the little people, they could care less who lives and who dies at their feet.  And it is also clear that the overweight gluttonous giants are grabbing more than their fair share of what the earth has to offer.  They are taking the bread that in a more just world would belong in and should be put into other mouths.

And finally, the entire scene is wrapped up as the sum and stuff of conservative economic  philosophy.  If you are having problems in this economy, then this is the takeaway image of what Republicans are really trying to put over on the country, and its unemployed, poor, and less fortunate masses.  These giants are the same people who would squish the country’s workers and consumers like so many bugs, and without a second thought.  They are totally empty of any social consciousness.

And that, boys and girls, is how the United States of America became the envy of the world that still beckons people to these shores – people who often risk their very lives and arrive with nothing except the knowledge that getting just one of those trickle down crumbs will make it all worthwhile.

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40 responses to “Trickle Down – the definitive view”

  1. Barry Pruett Avatar

    I like RL Crabb’s cartoons…always witty.

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  2. Ben Emery Avatar

    Here is mandatory read for ruminations regulars. It will teach how macro economics works and how reaganonomics along with free trade are the major factors in both Public and Private debt.
    http://www.truth-out.org/print/1909

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  3. RL Crabb Avatar

    I just spent a lot of time crafting an even wittier response, which apparently exceeded the time limit for comments. Curse you, Typepad!

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  4. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    In my contrary view I see the fat boys as government.

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  5. Barry Pruett Avatar

    That is the brilliance of the cartoon…it fits both sides!

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  6. George Rebane Avatar

    ‘Trickle down’ has been the iconic reference to an economic system with fat cat capitalists at the top. It has NEVER denoted that politicians and government bureaucrats are on top. However, that version could be promoted as government becomes more rapacious and takes up an ever greater fraction of GDP (now over 40%).
    truthout.com populates these pages as my reference far left (often crossing the communist border) website. I have yet to find a single proposition it supports that matches with my observations of truth in this universe. But I continue to recommend it to conservatives because it defines the magnitude of American polarization even better than the comments of our progressive friends.
    Administrivia – witty and even wittier comments are always most welcome here. The best way to get around TypePads vicissitudes is to compose your longer comments on your favorit text editor or word processor, then paste them into the comment box. That way you’ll be sure to see them posted without losing all that fine writing in process.

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  7. RL Crabb Avatar

    Yeah, George, I’ve run into the Typepad wall before, but I always think faster than my claws can type. Is there a set time limit? If so, I could set my kitchen timer next to the keyboard to keep me within the window of opportunity.

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  8. Peter Van Zant Avatar
    Peter Van Zant

    George; You got it right until the last comment. Yes our poor are probably better off then ‘their’ poor and the US is less prone to trap people in the strict class boxes of other countries. However that is not Mr. Crabb’s primary message. The working middle class have been on a downward economic spiral for decades. And the government is receiving a smaller percentage of taxes since the Reagan years. The corporations keep doing better and the rest of us have to suck it up. We may have passed a tipping point where rich individuals and corporations can contribute massive amounts of campaign funding and now have the ability to elect officials that will insure the continued transfer of the nation’
    s wealth from the working folks to the already rich.

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  9. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    The left has destroyed the middle class. People’s jobs are not created out of thin air. The government has regulated the middle class into involuntary servitude. Our poor have two TV’s and food stamps and now we are seeing the former middle class moving backwards economically because the people who supply the ingenuity and capital to create a business don’t want to risk their hard earned money. One only needs to look at the fees charged by local government for a building permit and the regulations one must go through to build on their own property. The middle class cannot afford to even build a shop. Get the left out of our lives, get the government regulations booted and start over. The country and its leaders have no respect for private property. That includes land, money and the sanctity of the home.

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  10. George Rebane Avatar

    PeterVZ – what part of my last comment was not right? Also, please tell us your source for “government is receiving a smaller percentage of taxes since the Reagan years”, when accoring to all known data our federal government is now taking a greater fraction of GDP since WW2. This is matched by all governments down to the local levels. Laffer will explain why all this has not translated into higher government revenues.
    Bob, I wasn’t aware of TypePad’s timeout on comments until readers started complaining. I always type first into my word processor, it’s so much easier and always retains the original until I’m ready to blow it away.

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  11. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Typepad limit seems to be around one hour.
    “that version could be promoted as government becomes more rapacious and takes up an ever greater fraction of GDP (now over 40%).:”
    So to pay for government, and to be fair, and raise that much in taxes, in a flat tax nation we would all have to pony up 40%, right?
    Somehow or other I don’t think the 40% number is correct, even after adding in all of the military costs, which I assume are included in that 40% hypothetical…

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  12. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    You can either build lots of prisons in a “ship every job overseas that can be done there cheaper” economy, or you can pay higher taxes for better schools and middle classes wages for quality jobs (requiring well trained employees, or easily trainable employees) keep here through tariffs.
    Take your pick.
    You have to factor in the deteriorated quality of life in the USA when you produce cheap goods abroad. The was screaming their rants for a 100 years and nobody bought it. Walmart and the rest got shining package goods that fall apart made over the last 20 years, and drained the middle class of their savings, much likes beads, Indians, and Manhatten. Home Depot/Walmart CEO’s created this situation, the Young Socialists Alliance and other such groups merely watch as indeed the capitalists manufacture the ropes in China with which to continue strangling the middle class way of life in this country.

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  13. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Wonder how long it would take for TJ to run for the regulations if a hog farmer bought next door?

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  14. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK – the 40% number is actually the fully burdened marginal rate on wages which today (as opposed to the 1950s) account for the bulk of tax revenues. According to Michael Boskin (Stanford economics professor) that fully burdened rate for Californians is 44.1%. This goes a long way to explain our state’s economic woes since it is the ‘rich’ that pay the overwhelming tax revenues at the marginal rates.
    According to the CBO, the marginal cost of our wars has been about 1% of GDP or $150B annually. Admittedly that’s a lot, but nowhere near the catastrophic amounts implied in most national commentaries. We have to remember that the federal govt spends about $3.5T a year, making the cost of war approx 4.3% of the budget.

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  15. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The crack in the Republican cathedral continues as the party struggles to avoid a wipe out in the 12 elections. This is a segment the latest editorial from Conservative Republican Joe Scarborough
    “I consistently ranked as one of the most fiscally conservative members of Congress over my four terms and never voted for a tax increase. And I wouldn’t vote for one today.
    But I learned through the years that politics is the art of the possible. America is $14 trillion is debt. We have over $50 trillion in bills coming due over the next generation. A mild bump in interest rates could cripple our economy for years to come. Greece is in flames. The European Union’s financial system is teetering on the brink of collapse. China is expanding exponentially. And America can’t compete with a rebuilt economic machine until we first fix its foundation.
    Considering the challenges facing America this century, any Republican who squanders the chance to cut $4 trillion from our debt in exchange for $1 trillion in tax loopholes is no conservative in my book.
    It’s time to tell Americans the truth. And the first party to do that will own the future.
    A guest columnist for POLITICO, Joe Scarborough hosts “Morning Joe” on MSNBC and represented Florida’s 1st Congressional District in the House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001.
    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59262_Page4.html#ixzz1SfqDQsCx

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  16. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    The Democrats are moving more and more into the empty playing field left by the Republican parties radical shift to the right. They are now embracing Ronald Reagan as a bugle boy for their march to the middle. To quote Todd the Dodger “What a hoot”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/20/ronald-reagan-liberal-hero-debt-default_n_904954.html
    WASHINGTON — Democrats have a new icon these days: Ronald Reagan.
    That’s because, unlike many Republicans in the House, the fiscally conservative late president believed it was essential for the United States to make good on its all obligations and raise the debt ceiling.
    And Democrats across the spectrum on Wednesday have been holding the conservative hero up to Republicans as an example they should follow.
    “I find myself these days quoting Ronald Reagan,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) at a news conference Wednesday……….

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  17. George Rebane Avatar

    PaulE, is it too early to finagle an invite to your victory party? There seems to be so much good news that perhaps one party might not be enough – maybe one a month will let everyone expend their enjoyables so that the pressure won’t build up too much. I’ll come if you promise to bring your gitfiddle. 😉

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  18. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    “Trickle down” is a bogeyman to scare the working class to fear business more than they fear government. RL, I hate to say it, but it worked well on you.
    ALL one needs to do to workaround the typepad tymeout is
    1) copy what you wrote just in case
    2) refresh/reload the window (a browser button or Cntl-R for Firefox)
    3) check to make sure what you wrote is intact
    4) submit

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  19. Scott Obermuller Avatar

    Ben – thanks for the link to the TruthOut.org article. It does shine a light into the way the left thinks. You start off with hatred and prejudice and just follow a line of reasoning that props up the bigotry. The author begins with a bald faced lie about WMDs in Iraq and continues into a maelstrom of convoluted nonsense. I have to confess that I could only read about 1/2 of it since the beginning setup was so far from reality, there was no point in trying to follow what the concluding plan of action would be to fix the problem. Maybe I’ll have more time tonight to finish – I can’t promise. Anyway, if this represents how the left thinks, then there is no way this country will ever “come together” for any sort of unified way forward. Socialism is the way most of the public in the world wants to be governed, even if it never works. The thing is, we have become far more socialistic in this country over the last few decades and yet the left is ever more angry at how things are run. Capitalism and the free market are diminishing to almost nothing and the left is ever more sure that this is still the root of all of our problems. Eventually we will have no capitalism and free market (at least openly) and the left will still be blaming it for all that is wrong.
    If you ever come across another equally illuminating ditty, please feel free to post a link. I like to keep up with the latest trends of the enemy.

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  20. RL Crabb Avatar

    Thanks for the tip, Greg. As for my trickling, well, it was somewhat inspired by Ross Perot’s now-famous quote concerning NAFTA back in 1992.
    “The first thing you’ll hear is a giant sucking sound as our jobs go out of the country.”
    It’s an indisputable fact that more wealth has gone to the top 2% over the last three decades. That would be the guys at the top of the heap. Add in all the middle class folks who got rolled in the 2008 meltdown (brought to you by the manipulation of the market by well-meaning but inept politicians of both parties) and you get the big picture.

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  21. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I’m not sure I want to play music at a victory party that celebrates the Dems embracing RR. I love the irony that if Mr Reagan were running for President today he’d be tossed out like dead flowers by the TP foamers.
    Here’s more from good old Ronald
    “‘The full consequences of a default,’ he said, ‘or even the serious prospect of a default by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The nation can ill afford to allow such a result.’

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  22. George Rebane Avatar

    “… celebrates Dems embracing RR.”??? where in hell did you get that PaulE? I was talking about your celebratory remarks; it’s YOUR anticipatory victory. (See how hard it is to communicate?)
    And you keep beating the default drum. The US will NOT ever default on its debt service. Why should we when 1) we have enough revenues to make payments, and 2) if we run short, we can always pay with newly printed faith-based dollars. Only the country’s idiots are scared by cries of ‘Default is coming! Default is coming!’, and therein lies a tactic.

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  23. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    George, I know we have defeated the left when they start turning to Reagan for inspiration. They think we will cower in the corner because they resurrect something he said to try and bludgeon our present course. No Paul, you lose because the circumstances of life change in politics as fast as the weather and you have to stay contemporary on most of the stuff going on. Rush Limbaugh dug up a bunch of quotes from Kennedy, LBJ, Carter and Clinton to show even they were speaking Republican. So nice try but we only chuckle at your attempts.

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  24. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Come on George. I thought I was being funny.
    Really though Reagan would not be allowed to run with this crowd. It was the TP favorite Michelle Bachmann that claims that defaulting is not a big deal
    “This is a misnomer, that I believe that the president and treasury secretary have been trying to pass off on the American people and it’s this,” Bachmann, who’s also running for the Republican presidential nomination, said. “If Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling by $2.5 trillion that somehow the United States will go into default and we will lose the full faith and credit of the United States. That is simply not true.”
    Again RR
    “‘The full consequences of a default,’ he said, ‘or even the serious prospect of a default by the United States are impossible to predict

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  25. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    Sorry, RR refers to Ronald Reagan. I understand how that could be confusing.

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  26. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Well, it certainly isn’t trickling down to one casino in Vegas.
    The Venetian Casino Resort in Las Vegas has filed a lawsuit against Tennessee-based Tea Party Nation for allegedly failing to pay a more than $600,000 bill.
    The Las Vegas Review Journal reported that the hotel claims the tea party group owes money for a five-day convention it canceled at the hotel last summer.
    The Tea Party Nation reserved 1,637 room nights in the Palazzo hotel, according to court documents. The tea party group cancelled two weeks before the event.
    The group agreed to pay the hotel $579,148 in the event of a cancellation and $87,996 in interest has since been added to that amount.
    The Venetian’s lawyers claim the Tea Party Nation “has refused, and continues to refuse, to make payment,” despite being contacted numerous times, LA Weekly reported.

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  27. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    Ronald Reagan?
    Quiz for the Tea Party folks:
    So how many times did Ronald Reagan raise the national debt limit while he was President?

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  28. Michael R. Kesti Avatar
    Michael R. Kesti

    “So how many times did Ronald Reagan raise the national debt limit while he was President?”
    A most appropriate answer to that question is, “It in no way matters as those raises in no way prove that another raise is the best thing that can and should be done today.”
    Besides, aren’t progressives about change?

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  29. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    So how many times did Ronald Reagan raise the national debt limit while HE was President?

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  30. Paul Emery Avatar
    Paul Emery

    I recommend reading the following document about the history of the national debt.
    fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/105193.pdf
    Reagan raised the debt ceiling at least 5 times always warning about the dire consequences of inaction.

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  31. George Rebane Avatar

    Again, simplicity itself, everything is disconnected for easy decision making. PaulE, what was the debt to GDP ratio during the Reagan era?
    Once more from my 434pm comment, “And you keep beating the default drum. The US will NOT ever default on its debt service. Why should we when 1) we have enough revenues to make payments, and 2) if we run short, we can always pay with newly printed faith-based dollars? Only the country’s idiots are scared by cries of ‘Default is coming! Default is coming!’, and therein lies a tactic.”

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  32. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    If it is that simple, George, then why aren’t the Republicans taking that case to the American public?

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  33. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK, you may not be getting this on the news sources you consume, but Republicans (not all) are taking this to the American public. But then, the American public doesn’t watch much of that news either.
    But a more important question for you to answer for RR readers is ‘why do you as a progressive not agree with my assertion in the 956AM comment?’

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  34. Mikey McD Avatar
    Mikey McD

    I agree 100% with you Scott…. “You [progressives] start off with hatred and prejudice and just follow a line of reasoning that props up the bigotry. Posted by: Scott Obermuller | 20 July 2011 at 03:33 PM”
    The foundation of progressivism is hate.

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  35. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “But a more important question for you to answer for RR readers is ‘why do you as a progressive not agree with my assertion in the 956AM comment?’”
    I do not see where I, “didn’t agree” with your statement.
    Of course devaluing the currency may come with some only slightly hidden costs…

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    The reason that I surmised your not agreeing with me DougK, is that you asked your “simple” question with respect to my proposition not being promoted only by Republicans. Had you asked it in terms of both Repubs and Dems not promoting it, then I would not have been able to draw the reasonable conclusion about your sentiments.
    Devaluaing the currency has NEVER come with “some slightly hidden costs”, especially to the extent needed to pay our bills witn the reduced revenues then enjoyed by the feds.

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  37. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    After hearing about the group horsing around with death at Vernal Falls, and succeeding, it does make you wonder about your fellow voters and Congresspeople.

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  38. MikeL Avatar
    MikeL

    I really found it very telling that Ben E, who happens to be running for Congress, thinks that truthdig tells the truth. The divide between the bigoted regressive left and thinking rational people is quite large. I am afraid that this division will split this great country.
    It is rather funny to hear the lefty regressives rail about the evil rich corporations. I am wondering where Calpers was able to make something like 20% returns on their investments…maybe those pie in the sky investments in “Green” energy are paying off..ha ha!

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  39. Bonnie M Avatar
    Bonnie M

    Peter, you write that:”The working middle class have been on a downward economic spiral for decades. And the government is receiving a smaller percentage of taxes since the Reagan years. The corporations keep doing better and the rest of us have to suck it up.” I and friends actively opposed the environmental activists busily putting small businesses (middle class)out of business. These activists were funded by corporations (who benefitted) and government grants. By eliminating free enterprise competition we find ourselves at the mercy of corporations also forced to grow in order to survive. As for our culprit government receiving a smaller percentage of taxes since Reagon…it doesn’t matter how much tax revenue the government collects because, as the Jeff put it, they consider taxes a gift from God rather than coming from those they’re supposed to represent and protect. Otherwise they would do their bookkeeping and stay within their budget like we have to do in order to pay our taxes.

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