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George Rebane

Mr Douglas Keachie is a loud voice in the community and on local blogs.  A man of progressive persuasion, he is also a sometime commenter on these pages.  In his latest effort he attempts to reveal “three fatal flaws” in my 11jun11 Union column ‘Entrepreneurship 2011’.  His revelation was published as an Other Voices submission in the 21jun11 Union (here).

Mr Keachie launches his piece with the devastating deduction that I claimed the tax rate to be 100% (confiscatory) for all earnings above $250,000 – “The tax on net income above $250,000 is not 100 percent.”  It is easy to verify that nowhere in my column do I make such claim or anything that remotely resembles it.  From that point of departure Mr Keachie proceeds swiftly downward in his displayed comprehension of what I wrote, and in his understanding of the entrepreneurial enterprise in general.

There are two possible explanations for such errors.  The first is that Mr Keachie is among the many who have been short-changed by our public educational system.  And that would explain why his remarkable conclusions fall into the lower categories as documented in the longitudinal National Adult Literacy Survey   that is conducted every ten years by the National Center for Educational Statistics.  As the record shows, this is not the first time that Mr Keachie has had trouble understanding what I write.  (I have reported extensively on adult numeracy and literacy on these pages – RR keywords ‘numeracy’, ‘adult literacy’.)

The other explanation is that Mr Keachie is taking a page from Saul Alinsky’s manual of political discourse, and simply fabricating a set of ‘facts’, attributes, or other characteristics that can be ascribed to a person to be denigrated.  Such characteristics, derived from whole cloth, go on to serve as the ridiculed targets for the remainder of the presentation.  The reader, unfamiliar with the original, is then at the author’s mercy.

As to why The Union so prominently published Mr Keachie’s article, one can only guess.  Perhaps, through their over-worked editorial filter, my column represented an ideological bias that had to be ‘balanced’, and the Keachie piece was the only one at hand – any port in a storm.

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187 responses to “Keachie Again Misreads Rebane”

  1. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    because it was an apt description and summation of the following:
    “Yes, solid arithmetic used to be a hallmark of good grammar schools. A sixth grade level was once a hallmark of basic literacy and numeracy; many great books were accessible and one had a good grasp of virtually all of the measurements and arithmetic (including fractions) that one would find in the trades and Main Street commerce.”
    Posted by Greg Goodknight.
    (the stuff between the double quote marks WAS posted by Greg Goodknight, in case you are unclear on the concept)

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  2. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Did it all fall apart when they started doing problems about the crazy grocer trying to mix the peanuts and cashews and walnutsfrom the different bins at different prices and come up with the correct prices?

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  3. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    A “golden age” for math education and actually having public schools with high standards are two different things, Keach.

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  4. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “and actually having public schools with high standards ”
    OK, have it your way, so when did this occur, if ever?

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  5. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Or is your original statement:
    “Yes, solid arithmetic used to be a hallmark of good grammar schools. A sixth grade level was once a hallmark of basic literacy and numeracy; many great books were accessible and one had a good grasp of virtually all of the measurements and arithmetic (including fractions) that one would find in the trades and Main Street commerce.”
    Posted by Greg Goodknight.
    (the stuff between the double quote marks WAS posted by Greg Goodknight, in case you are unclear on the concept)
    as I was saying, is your original statement about Hallmarks, merely a Christmas card fantasy of a time that never was?

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  6. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    A “golden age” for math education and actually having public schools with high standards are two different things, Keach.
    Some still do. Not many in California.

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  7. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “Some still do. Not many in California.”
    Some would say that this implies an earlier time when many had high standards. I’m curious as to when you believe that was?
    one, two three, “i implied no such a thingie”

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  8. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Keach, do you think you or the SF schools you worked at had high standards? If so, why did your fellow teachers send their kids to private schools at a higher rate than the public at large?

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  9. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    We sent our daughter to Lowell High School, where I taught.
    Got a problem with these numbers?
    Founded in 1856, LOWELL has received state and national recognition as an institution of excellence sustained by collaboration among all constituent groups in the school community. Some distinctions include the following:
    California Distinguished School: 1986, 1990, 1992, 1994, 2001, 2005, 2009
    National Blue Ribbon School: 1982-1983, 1994-1996, 2001-2002
    Received the National Scholastic Press Association’s award for producing one of the top 10 best student newspapers in the U.S. from 1996-2005
    The majority of students complete requirements that meet the University of California admissions standards. The school offers an extensive and rigorous curriculum that includes many Honors and Advanced Placement (AP) courses as well as core and elective courses that prepare students for college and future career opportunities. A large variety of community service projects and extra-curricular/athletic activities also serve to enrich student life at Lowell as students develop into lifelong learners and productive citizens. Student support services are available through counselors, the VICCI Center, Wellness Center, and Peer Resources Program.
    Lowell remains the largest feeder school to the University of California (UC) with approximately 45% of its 2009 graduates attending a UC campus. Of the 2010 graduates, 97% planned to attend college in the fall. Lowell consistently ranks 2nd or 3rd among all public high schools in California’s Academic Performance Index (API). In 2010, Lowell achieved its highest score of 954 since the API came out in 1999.
    In 2010, Lowell ranked 3rd globally in the number of Advanced Placement (AP) examinations scoring a “3” (passing) or higher administered among over 16,000 high schools with AP programs. In 2010, students took 3,684 AP exams. In 2010, Lowell was #1 in the Western Region among high schools west of the Mississippi River in the number of AP tests administered and passed.
    Because in any given year roughly 50% of Lowell students are GATE identified, it is assumed that all teachers have GATE students in their classes.
    LOWELL HONORS, ADVANCED, AND ADVANCED PLACEMENT COURSES
    English
    9th Grade Honors (2nd semester)
    10th Grade Honors
    11th or 12th Grade
    English, Language and Composition AP
    12th Grade
    English, Literature and Composition AP
    Mathematics
    Geometry Honors
    Accelerated Math Honors
    Pre-calculus Honors
    Calculus AB AP
    Calculus BC AP
    Computer Science AP
    Statistics AP
    Social Sciences
    European History AP
    World History AP
    U.S. History AP
    Psychology AP
    Comparative Government AP
    Microeconomics AP
    Macroeconomics AP
    U.S. Government AP
    Physical Education
    Advanced classes in grades 11 and 12
    Aerobics
    Badminton
    Basketball
    Swimming
    Tennis
    Weight Training
    World Languages
    Chinese Honors
    Chinese Language & Culture AP
    French Honors
    French Language AP
    Hebrew Language 4th Year
    Italian Honors
    Italian 4th Year Honors
    Japanese Honors
    Japanese Language & Culture AP
    Korean 4th Year
    Spanish Honors
    Spanish Language AP
    Science
    Biology AP
    Chemistry Honors
    Chemistry AP
    Environmental Science AP
    Physics Honors
    Physics B AP
    Physics C AP
    Visual and Performing Arts
    Art Advanced
    Art History AP
    Art in Architecture Advanced
    Band Advanced
    Ceramics Advanced
    Dance Advanced
    Drama Advanced
    Jazz Band
    Music Theory AP
    Orchestra Advanced
    Photography Advanced
    Studio Art AP
    Symphonic Band
    Symphony Orchestra
    Theater Tech Advanced
    Vocal Music Advanced
    LOWELL ENRICHMENT AND SPECIAL INTEREST PROGRAMS
    Students not only excel in academics, but they have a rich and varied life at Lowell. With our “modular” and “self-scheduling” system, they exercise some individual choice in the selection of their schedules, in allocating study time, and in participating in a broad range of activities, clubs, and sports. Some organizations include:
    California Scholarship Federation
    Students who have achieved high grades in various subjects offer tutoring services to fellow students.
    Academic Decathlon
    The Academic Decathlon is a local, state, and national competition that tests each competitor and each team in literature, art, music, economics, history, math, and science.
    Shield and Scroll
    This Honor Service Society consists of juniors and seniors who have compiled superior records of scholarship, citizenship, and service.
    Forensics
    The purpose of forensics is to develop reasoning skills, but more importantly, to learn effective persuasive speaking. Competition falls within two general categories: debate and individual event.
    Lowell Student Government
    Consists of the Lowell Student Association (LSA), which is the governing body and the Student Body Council (SBC), which is responsible for organizing dances, coordinating events, and representing Lowell within the community.
    LOWELL PARENTS
    Lowell has a very active and involved parent community. A few of their activities include:
    Parent Teacher Student Association
    Parents organize fundraising events, special dinners for staff, serve on the school site council, and address concerns of the school.
    Volunteers In College Career Information Center (VICCI)
    College resource center organized by parent volunteers to assist students in college and scholarship searches.
    School Site Council (SSC)
    Elected parent representatives that serve on the SSC vote on a wide variety of matters including school budgeting.
    LOWELL ALUMNI
    Lowell has a very active alumni association dedicated to helping ensure Lowell students’ success through extensive fundraising, organizing special events, and participating in the School Site Council’s decision-making process. Its members include a recent Nobel Prize winner and a sitting Supreme Court Justice. In 2006, the Lowell Alumni Association was instrumental in organizing a series of special events to celebrate the school’s 150th year of existence.

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  10. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    And so why do some teachers send their kids to private schools?
    BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T PASS THE ADMISSIONS TESTS TO GET INTO LOWELL!
    next question?

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  11. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    One final note on why SF teacher do send a substantial number of their kids to private schools, beyond not making the cut for Lowell, the Alternative Public School, of choice:
    San Francisco is a world class city, in the eighth largest economy in the world, and accordingly has a remarkable number of top law firms and medical centers. I believe there are over 14,000 lawyers alone, living in the city.
    As a result, there are plenty of folks to support a thriving system of top notch and very expensive private schools.
    So how do school teachers afford such a luxury? Well, in some circles it is called, “charity.” They get discounted tuitions or even outright scholarships, paid for by the wealthy parents in the schools. So when public school teachers kids fail to make the grade for one of the top 10 public schools in the nation, they go for second best, helped along by the wealthy, who may need a more balanced population makeup for their kids to experience.
    There, there, Greg, I know it was one of your pet examples, you used it several times before, that now lies ruined and crumpled on the deck, but I’m sure you can find a replacement.

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  12. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    By the 2010 STAR reporting, out of about 1900 students at Lowell, about 30 are black. How’d that happen, Keach? Not very egalitarian, is it?

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  13. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “If so, why did your fellow teachers send their kids to private schools at a higher rate than the public at large?”
    Statistics, Greg, Statistics.
    The public at large includes a great many students who do not make the grade, admission test wise, at either Lowell or the private schools.
    Being more educationally inclined (4 year degree + graduate studies to become a teacher) than the “average” citizens, the kids produced by teachers tend also to be smarter, and therefore more likely to pass the private school tests.
    Being more concerned about education, as demonstrated by their choice of profession, teachers are more likely to provide educationally nurturing environments than the average citizen. Case in point, we had a family membership to the California Academy of Sciences as our younger daughter grew up. We lived one mile away. I just bought my older daughter’s family, kids now 5, 7, and 9, a membership, even though they live 20 miles away.
    As teachers we actually looked at private schools while waiting for the test results for Lowell admission, and wondered how we’d pay for St Ignacius, then $16,000/year, in 1996. The average citizen in San Francisco does not actively pursue the very best in education, as teachers do. Shy of a full scholarship, many could not afford it. Thus the “average citizen” isn’t even in the running, and having a higher portion of teachers sending kids to private schools is more of a funny statistic, than any indictment of public schools.
    Lincoln and George Washington High Schools have very respectable programs, BTW…

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  14. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    The one year ‘graduate studies’ after BA/BS to be a teacher is a giant academic step backwards. Mostly useless pedagogy du jour and indoctrination.
    For example, my wife was taught that parents who objected to whole language were just religious fundamentalists, just try to be nice to them and say whatever you need to get them to go away. Poor literacy among whole language students had nothing to do with it.
    No, K-12 teachers are not paragons of academic virtue.

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  15. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Yes, statistics, Keach. If what you say is true, that teachers whose kids can’t get into the magnets will do anything to get them into a good private school rather than suffer one of the lesser schools does not say much for the educational product of the district as a whole, which, if you look at the aggregate report, isn’t anything special. I can see why teachers would be clawing to get their kids in the few decent schools there and opting for private if that didn’t work.
    http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2010/ViewReport.asp?ps=true&lstCounty=38&lstDistrict=68478&lstSchool=

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  16. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Does the average citizen of San franciso have a four year degree and advanced study of any sort, Greg ? yes or no?
    Now it is small world time.
    http://lakeconews.com/content/view/15400/929/
    Lowell student becomes a rear admiral, dad from…..Nevada City, anyone really old remember Jack Yuen?
    A great story!
    All Greg can come up to counter my arguments is one anecdote about an education credential. Many teachers go well beyond the stuff that is required for a credential, which amounts to about 30 units and some internship time. I quit at around 90 units. There are people holding doctorates, and Lowell had one disabled MD on their staff as well when I was there.
    Greg has a grudge against public school teachers, it’s plain for all to see. You did teach for one year. We you one of the 50% who washed out? Not invited back? No tenure during that first and sometinmes even 4th year year. It depends on the district.

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  17. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Hit wrong button, no glasses, 12:40 or so
    “Greg has a grudge against public school teachers, it’s plain for all to see. You did teach for one year. We you one of the 50% who washed out? Not invited back? No tenure during that first and sometinmes even 4th year year. It depends on the district.”
    “Greg has a grudge against public school teachers, it’s plain for all to see. You did teach for one year. Were you one of the 50% who washed out? Not invited back? No tenure during that first and sometimes even 4th year year. It depends on the district.”

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  18. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “Yes, statistics, Keach. If what you say is true, that teachers whose kids can’t get into the magnets will do anything to get them into a good private school rather than suffer one of the lesser schools does not say much for the educational product of the district as a whole, which, if you look at the aggregate report, isn’t anything special. I can see why teachers would be clawing to get their kids in the few decent schools there and opting for private if that didn’t work.
    http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2010/ViewReport.asp?ps=true&lstCounty=38&lstDistrict=68478&lstSchool=
    Teachers are smart enough to go for any edge they can get. A private school with smaller classes makes exellent sense, if your son or daughter is anything like George Bush, who went to just such a school. Teachers value a top notch education more than the average citizen, and they know the system, and so yes, their kids get into private schools, for the reasons I’ve already enumerated.
    Wonder how well GV/NC students would be doing statistically, if certain sections of San Francisco’s population were dropped into the county as residents? Most likely, below average. Would you then condemn all the teachers in the schools?

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  19. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    I am anxiously awaiting the next long and drawn out oment battle, to see if it bisects the omments as this one does.

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  20. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    I see Keach completely sidestepped the issue of his beloved Lowell HS having less than 2% of its student body being black when they make up 10% of the district, or the overall lackluster results of the Frisco school district.
    I’ve no “grudge” against public school teachers. My father was one, and I went to the same East LA high school as Edward James Olmos. The year I spent teaching algebra was as a Teacher’s Aide at a middle school that had originally been my K-6 elementary school; while I couldn’t take attendance (that takes a certificated teacher) I was the only one giving instruction. I remember the first week, after I’d started, one of the kids told me his dad wanted to know what my major was and where; the next day he told me his dad said that was OK. 🙂 I was delighted with the deal but my plan always was to return to Claremont and finish my studies in physics. I was rated 10/10 by the master teacher assigned to keep an eye on me, and parents universally raved (somehow the smart kids’ parents always showed at the open houses) their kids for the first time were getting their questions answered. It also didn’t hurt that my name was on the plaque in the lunchroom as the top HS grad from that elementary for my class. Even the lunch supervision duty wasn’t bad.
    So, no, Keach, you got it wrong again. My problems with public ed date only from my experience with MY son in the Grass Valley School District and later, at Nevada Union High School. The GVSD was incompetent in math and language instruction in the mid 90’s, and blissfully ignorant of their shortcomings thanks to the administrators Jon Byerrum (husband of the current county Supe of Public Instruction, Holly H.) & Linda Brown and their rubber stamp Board. There were MANY good teachers at NUHS but the incompetent and malevolent ones could and did operate at will.

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  21. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Well I’m glad to know that you did well as a teacher’s aid, but in reality as the de facto teacher. Note that I did not state that you had failed, I merely noted the possibility, based on what little information you had presented. It’s not unlike George Rebane and the ATPAC smoke fire thing.
    BTW, smart kids parents everywhere show up for the open houses. I did spend a year at Galileo (before Lowell), where many of the parents were immigrants, FOB, and even though they had some smart kids, they didn’t get the conept of open house. 2,000 plus students, about 100 of the staff showed up for open house. 20 parents showed up….
    I got cards and letter from parents, and still have uncashed the $100 check one grateful set of parents sent me. Their kid was a certifiable genius, one of four I encountered while there, and when I realized who I was dealing with, I turned him loose to do whatever he wanted, as I was certain he would kbow better what came next for him than I did. He passed all his AP exams, including BC calculus, with 5’s. Sometimes it is best to know when to get out of the way. I’m sure you would agree. Or have I earned yet another “you got it wrong, Keach,” black star from the ultimate judge of everything?
    4 more “black stars” from Greg, and I win a Cupie doll.

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  22. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    If the blacks in SF occupied the same socio-economic spectrum as the Chinese, you might be able to make a case for racism. But they don’t, and so the % of blacks is low. You failed to note that the dominant race/ethnicity at Lowell is Chinese.

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  23. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Somehow, I don’t think the guy running this booth gave you the Kewpie doll (your inventive spelling isn’t working this time) you think you deserve, Keach. I suspect blacks living in your old district expect it’s racism, since they’re the ones with kids stuck in underperforming elementary schools. It’s the soft racism of low expectations.
    For an alternate view of what is wrong in low performing schools, read this paper:
    http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/brookings.pdf
    Google “Nancy Ichinaga” and Bennet-Kew for more information. Ms. Ichinaga’s school was exactly the sort of school that we need but mostly don’t get.
    If you only noticed four certifiable geniuses in your years teaching you either had your administration steering the smart kids to other teachers, or you just weren’t able to tell. I can remember at least four from my one year.
    Regarding a golden age for public education in California, it would probably be before collective bargaining was instituted for public employees, and before constructivism became the dominant view among pedagogues in K-12 education.

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  24. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Love that word, “pedagogues,” as it’s sort of a cross between gargoyle and pedophile, eh Greg?

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  25. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    A more inane comment has never been made here. Keachie, why are you here? Or even better, why are you allowed to stay?

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  26. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Difficult to hit the urrent omments again

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  27. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    No, poor readers of the Ruminations. If you had anything serious to say, and you’ve had plenty of chances, you’d have said it.

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  28. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Keach wrote “Being more educationally inclined (4 year degree + graduate studies to become a teacher) than the “average” citizens, the kids produced by teachers tend also to be smarter, and therefore more likely to pass the private school tests.”
    Then there’s the Federal study that found that the lower the College Board scores of an incoming freshman in college, the higher the chance they’d be teaching 10 years after earning their baccalaureate. K-12 is not where strong students usually choose to have their careers. Probably the highest payout for the least ability, and a union to insure things like lack of competence doesn’t interfere with a steady job and good retirement benefits.

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  29. Barry Pruett Avatar

    George…think it is time to close comments on this string…it is taking away from other discussions. I think that Keachie has sufficiently proven is intellect.

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  30. George Rebane Avatar

    Good point Barry; I’ve received emails from others in agreement. Then let’s make it so. I invite any and all commenters to post their summations, after which no more comments on this post will be accepted.

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  31. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    again, the only way to access the more recent comments, is to make one.

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  32. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    Now it seems you have to make two, it’s somewhat like a broken slot machine.

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  33. Greg Goodknight Avatar
    Greg Goodknight

    Speaking of broken slot machines, I think Keachie’s last two comments say it all.

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  34. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    So george didn’t like a long post? I had no idea his attention span suffered.

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  35. Douglas Keachie Avatar

    “George” I only gave it a 50% chance of posting, so I didn’t initially correct it.

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  36. George Rebane Avatar

    DougK, I have no idea what you are talking about here. No comments you have posted have been touched or edited in any manner. It seems that you have other issues with your PC and TypePad. And now you are getting nasty and tiresome.

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