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‘Rightwing Extremism in Action: Tea Party Houston’

26 May 2011

George Rebane

Here's an example of the asymmetry in the violent rhetoric and revolutionary fervor between the left and the right. This video makes clear the palpable violence and hatred of the right. Take a look at these rabid rightwingers; and check out the music that sets the mood. Is this their best shot?

And then check out a good representation of what has become identified as the rightwing credo. How does the self-declared midddle differentiate itself from these tenets?

Last night we saw the screening of 'A More Perfect Union', a compelling depiction of America's Constitutional Convention that produced the document which made us an enduring democratic republic. The film was presented at the NC Board of Realtors' Easterly Hall by those radical NC Tea Party Patriots. When the film ended it was hard to find a dry eye in the SRO hall. Gotta watch 'em like a hawk.

Posted in Critical Thinking & Numeracy, Culture Comments, Our Country

199 responses to “‘Rightwing Extremism in Action: Tea Party Houston’”

John S

27 May 2011

Very good George.
It would be interesting to know who would actually be repulsed by watching this short video “The rights of man”.

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

It certainly isn’t the “best shot”.
How about the fact that President Obama, his wife and even his children have received more death threats, than any President and his family in history. How about cops getting into a shootout with someone who was on their way to kill people at the Tides Foundation, because he was egged on by Glenn Beck. Dr. Tiller, murdered in front of his wife and church delegation, by a killer egged on by Bill O’Reilly. Cops killed by an assassin laying in wait convinced by right wing media that “Obama was coming to take his guns”. How about a foiled bomb plot at a Martin Luther King day rally.
C’mon George, if you’re going to try and play this game at least play it honestly.

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Thorton spewing his leftwingnut talking points again. I guess we could say Osama was influence by George Soros and Arrianna Huffington and be just as believable. What a hoot!

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

Facts vs. Ignorance
What a “hoot”….and hopelessly pitiful

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Your self description is spot on.

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

If you’re looking at hate talk How about Beck “And now we’d like to beat to death with a shovel-Charlie Rangel” You guys never talk about him.
http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002095/

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Larry Wirth

27 May 2011

Unlike Dubya, the death threats against Obamao are at least made in private…

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George Rebane

27 May 2011

MikeT, your connecting those individual attempts to conservative ideologues is beyond tenuous but very revealing of liberal logic. BTW, you did forget to include the attack on Congresswoman Gifford.
Thanks for illustrative response.

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George Rebane

27 May 2011

Great flashback Paul. Beck’s early (2001) ‘humor’ is clearly still lost on many. And that realization ten years ago made him stop those over-the-top outbursts. But I’m sure that this vignette remains on top of the relevant response pile for all progressives seeking to demonstrate symmetry.

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

George, you are absolutely correct. No one could have said it better. BTW, I don’t watch Beck so sis he say that on FOX? Or was it when he was doing a radio show? He was on CNN for a while too I think. Paul and the left would drege up a comment from Plato if they could blame conservatives.

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

No George, you put up a single video and use it as a vehicle to say that claims of right wing extremism and violence are overblown.
I turned around and gave you several examples of actual events that prove there is a lot of right wing extremism, threats of violence, violence and actual murder taking place.
You can deny it all you want too, but the facts are the facts.
The guy who attacked Gifford has been declared mentally incompetent to stand trial with a preliminary diagnosis of schizophrenia. In short, he’s nuts!
So we don’t really know why he did what he did, yet.
But lets say that it turns out he was sitting at home all day watching FOX and/or listening to eight wing radio and then came to believe that he needed to take it upon himself to “Save America” from the socialist, communist, stalinist, statist, manchurian muslim FEMA, death panel, satanist takeover. Do the rodeo clown and his friends share any responsibility for what happened?

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Terry Velt

27 May 2011

I couldn’t imagine the hate that would spew from Thornton’s mouth if he had to fill 3 hours/day talking about politics. LOL

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Greg Goodknight

27 May 2011

Thornton, you’ve really had a schizophrenic break today. There’s been no evidence whatsoever that Laughner had any right wing leanings whatsoever. What evidence that has come out is that he had been decidedly liberal in the opinion of one classmate, and that he’s certifiably mentally ill.
You really should get over this FOX obsession of yours.

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

But we don’t have to imagine what Savage, Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh would do, do we?

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

The shooter in Phoenix was an avowed liberal Thornton. He watched Olbermann. BTW, what was it that happened in Seattle and who did it a few years back? Was that the left? Yep, and I guess you just kinda forgot right? Wow.
We have said ‘liberalism is a mental disorder” and I guess your ilk proves it perfectly every time.

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

BTW Thornton. Could you list all the conservative riots since say, the left’s Chicago 68′ here in America? Please list them by date.

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

The shooter in Phoenix is mentally ill and we don’t really know why he did what he did.
At some point I’m sure we’ll find out and when that happens we’ll have to deal with whatever it is. What we know is that he certainly didn’t go and attack anyone that was the focus of so-called “liberal” programs. he did however, shoot someone who had a “bulls eye” placed on her, by Sarah Palin.
I’ve already given you several documented cases of right wing violence, up to an including murder. Why don’t you explain those!

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

George
Can you or anyone else enlighten me on the “humor” of Becks piece that I seem to be missing out on ?

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George Rebane

27 May 2011

“… several documented cases of right wing violence …” Well, at least now we understand the liberal rules of evidence.
PaulE, maybe others can dissect it for you, but I am not up to the task of explaining the hyperbole and humor in young Beck’s 2001 remarks. Different people see differently such notions as beauty, humor, irony, compassion, … . Most certainly all such notions are culture specific, and now we are getting hints that they may also have a physiological correlation to ideologies that people embrace as shown by some recent science. http://rebaneruminations.typepad.com/rebanes_ruminations/2011/04/hardwiring-the-right-and-left.html

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

Here’s more humor from Glen Beck
“I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. … No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong?”

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

And more “Liberal Hunting Permit”
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/291484

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Dixon Cruickshank

27 May 2011

That didn’t look anything like Madison WI.
I will say the libs can sure try and even turn satire into serious, maybe they don’t understand it??
Thornton your so far out there I won’t even go there, its a total waste of time – gotta go wash the boat for Happy Hour – see ya

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

Reading the fine print on the Liberal Hunting Permit it reads “Valid at School Board Meetings, Polling Places and City Council Meetings” Lots of laughs from the Righties.

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wmartin

27 May 2011

Speaking in the most gross generalities, it really is kind of interesting how people on the US Left are so prone to violent and semi-violent group demonstration, and the modern Right is not. There’s batches of examples of this, so it really is a pretty obvious split in behavior.
If you think of the ‘Right’ in historical terms, they were just as likely to smash windows as their counterparts in days of yore. European fascists (some even with fasces!), militant whites in the old South, the Cherry Blossom Society, could all swing a club with the best of them.
There’s still bits of militant nationalism in the New Right, some parts of it are fairly authoritarian, so what in the heck happened?
Maybe it’s a demographic difference. Political culture is split among age boundaries perhaps. Grumpy old men want to keep what they have and grumpy young men want some of it, and for the older guys, it’s just more difficult to keep your mob groove going when all you want is a cup of tea and your comfy chair.
Maybe it’s the split in urban v. everyone else. It’s just flat harder for farmers and suburbanites to drive the F-150 down to the Starbucks for a bit of that anti-globalization pro-organic war kind of sign waving action.
Say, there’s a video game idea in all of this. We’ll soon become so lazy that we can loot the local liquor store during a bit of outdoor politickin’, all in the middle of an Xbox session. A kind of Grand Theft Auto VII, Power to the People(tm).

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Thorton brings up the “bullseye” but fails to mention his buds did it first. That was all discussed at the time in January and when we exposed the democrats use of a bullseye, it all went away. Hmmm.
He also says a FOX News stint causes violence but not MSNBC. Hmmm. Kinda blows up his childish thought process. LOL.

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Hey Paul check this out. Remember the Sacramento couple who hung our soldiers in effigy?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42838
Here is a link to coffee mugs from liberals. Just a bunch of haters Paul. tit for tat.
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/i+hate+republicans+mugs

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

Yeah Todd. I think they are all disgusting. It’s just that some find commercial viability on Fox news as highly paid teary eyed yappers.

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George Rebane

27 May 2011

Is it also part of progressive logic to describe conservatives as tending both toward fascism (national collectivism) and robber baron capitalism? Should they not pick one of the two opposites and then excoriate. Continuing to ascribe the right as fascist exhibits an infantile understanding of the spectrum of labeled ideologies. I have not identified any fascists or such tendencies in the readership of RR, or for that matter, in the tea party membership (all flavors). What am I missing?

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

George writes:
“Well, at least now we understand the liberal rules of evidence.”
From the Pittsburg Post Gazette, April 2009
“all three officers were fatally shot by the subject of the domestic call, later identified as Richard “Pop” Poplawski, 22. A discharged Marine, he adhered to a number of right-wing conspiracy theories and expressed fears of a “Zionist nation” revoking his right to own guns.”
Police said Mr. Poplawski knew his mother had called 911, knew officers would come to his house. He apparently lay in wait, armed with an AK-47 assault-style rifle, a .22-caliber rifle and a revolver and wearing a bulletproof vest.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09095/960749-53.stm#ixzz1Nb00kiNW
Now you prove this isn’t what happened!
MSNBC suspended TV host Ed Schultz for calling right wing radio host Laura Ingram a “Talk Slut” When has any right wing talk show host been suspended for anything?

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

It’s really interesting that right wingers would rather spend their time trying to defend acts of right wing violence, than simply condemn them.
What does this tell us?
It tells us that they see violence and murder as acceptable tactics when it comes to achieving their political aims.

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stevenfrisch

27 May 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greensboro_massacre

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stevenfrisch

27 May 2011

Ooops, I forgot that links out of context are inappropriate. That last link was in response to Todd’s questions about right wing riots since 1968.

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stevenfrisch

27 May 2011

More right wing extremism in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV07Z5C2kHg

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

http://www.newser.com/story/113774/white-supremacist-arrested-in-mlk-parade-bomb-attempt.html

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Mike Thornton

27 May 2011

And my last was another example of right wing violence

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Thornton and Frisch have totally missed the point. I said “conservative”. and they bring up skinheads. Yeah those skinheads, they are rioting all over the place. I asked about riots, not murders. Give us some links to riots as I asked not some nutcases who murdered. Besides, aren’t you two lovelies part of the nbandwagon after the Phoenix shooting who were claiming the shooter was a rightwinger? Yeah, you were and the press was parroting the lie and we on these blogs defeated your lies. Oh and BTW, the KKK was formed and manned by democrats. Read your history. Someone said Richard Speck was a democrat, is that true?

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stevenfrisch

27 May 2011

I could take that video apart frame by frame, and illustrate how the video is being used as a propaganda tool (for example the music, the use of the term collectivist, the intentional heightening of tension to manipulate emotions, blending Ayn Rand with founders statements, that allegation that we are ‘at war’, the allegation that in modern American society the individual has been subordinated to the state). But really, what would be the point. Any grown person, or any educated person, who watches that clip and does not identify it as exactly what it is, manipulative propaganda, is an certifiable moron.
The idea that this bull hockey is played at the Nevada County Contractors Association under some form of official sanction is laughable.
By the way, is the NCCA a tax exempt organization? Oh…I see they are!

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

I might as well join in the food fight. Timothy McVeigh was a Republican NRA guy. Todd, can you match that and raise the bet?

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

That McVeigh, yep, he was always the dedicated door knocker during elections. Someone told me he was on the grassy knoll when he was a democrat.

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stevenfrisch

27 May 2011

Just for the record, I do not think that skinheads, klansman, and aryan nation members represent a wide range of conservative thought, but they would classify themselves as conservative. Nor do I think that avowed Marxists marching on May Day with banners from the Communist Party of the USA represent the wide range of ‘progressive’ thought, but I did not see Todd objecting to that characterization under the May Day thread.

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Todd Juvinall

27 May 2011

Oops, almost forgot, Ratko Mladic was a registered green when he lived in Hoboken.

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George Rebane

27 May 2011

Many thanks for the back-up and counter examples from the left. Most will say these individuals were/are deranged nut cases. Can we say that for the crowds who march down streets in organized cadres calling for the destruction of America (or its “fundamental transformation”)?
I suppose it’s futile expect acknowledgment that the totalitarians and national socialists have nothing to do with conservative/libertarians who advocate small government, free enterprise, and individual liberties. This part is always ignored in any such counters from the progressive left.

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bill Tozer

27 May 2011

No doubt the Tea Party has been a perceived threat from the Left since day one. Same with Fox News Network, the number one watched cable network in the United States of America. The Left’s problem and obsession in actuality is not with The Tea Party nor Beck nor O’Reilly nor Rush. They are just messengers. The Left’s bizarre knee jerk reactions to Fox and Tea Party is totally misdirected. The Left’s real problem is with the majority of the American people. The majority of the people of The United States of America agree with sentiments and logic put forth by The Tea Party Patriots and The Fox News Network. Proof of this is the magic disappearing act of Air America, the Peace Movement, and most spokespersons for the minority of citizens of The United States of America.

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Paul Emery

27 May 2011

Bill
I have no problem with the Tea Party Patriots. I believe they generally are advocates for the greater good as they see it. I do have problems with exploiters such as the Tea Party Express or other germinations that are self serving Republican operatives. This does not necessarily mean I agree with their vision of America or the world but I still respect their posture. As an observer I feel they put the Republican party in an impossible situation and are settling into 25-30% support which is enough to make noise but not enough to really make a difference. Sure they tilted elections last year but they were also aided by a strangely impotent Obama administration that was overwhelmed by the same special interests that polluted the Bushters.
I don’t know where you get the opinion that the majority of people agree with the sentiment and logic of the TP’s Polls show quite the opposite. It sounds good till you get into details, like Medicare vouchers and they pull back hard.
http://www.pollingreport.com/politics.htm
The Republicans are planning a retreat from the Ryan budget that doesn’t make them look too bad probably by leaving the ball in the Democratic court. Right now they just don’t have the votes or public support and are overreaching. Historically, Americans don’t like rapid change.
Whatever the Peace Movement is they represent the majority of Americans at least when it comes to pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq supporting withdrawal by a 60-40 % margin.

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Dixon Cruickshank

27 May 2011

All the progressives want to jump on a couple deranged individuals to try and portray their point – I only want to point as I did in an early post – the worest death threats – signs and total disreagrd for America was in plain view in – Madison by the teachers of our children for gods sake, plus all other agencies that nobody knows what they are or what they do types. These are our employee’s, they work FOR the taxpayer’s I thought – you haven’t heard squat about the teacher they arrested have you – after they discovered she also may have been involved in her brother’s murder the media shut that down quick – she is teaching kids for pity sake – wonder how many potenial murders are in Nevada Counties teachers union? I know your much more selective

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Todd Juvinall

28 May 2011

Paul, what about your opinion, in depth of course as you have given us with the Tea Party and its affiliates, regarding the public employee unions and specifically the protestors in Wisconsin? I would like to see your true analysis from a lefty POV of those folks.

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Mike Thornton

28 May 2011

It’s unfortunate but telling that, rather then simply denounce extremism and violence perpetrated by rightwing individuals and organizations, regressives spend their time trying to deny. rationalize, justify, excuse or as a final tactic to change the subject. The “occam’s razor” theory has been used here on a few occasions and perhaps we should use it again. So, what is the simplest explanation for the position(s) that regressives take, when it comes to rightwing violence? Clearly it’s because they support this type of violence. There’s no doubt that rehressives live by the premise that “the ends justify the means”.
This explains all manner of regressive behavior and tactics.
Once again let’s remember that their heroine Ayn Rand, modeled her ultimate man off of a brutal sociopathic murderer and that the hero of her novel was a violent rapist.
As they say: “The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.”

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wmartin

28 May 2011

” So, what is the simplest explanation for the position(s) that regressives take, when it comes to rightwing violence?”
I suppose that it’s a) rare and b) usually done by a lone gunman rather than an angry mob. It’s a difference in approach it’s seems to me.
Probably the canonical version of ‘rightwing violence’ is in the fuss surrounding abortion clinics. Sometimes a lone gunman, sometimes a bunch of church goers (complete with their poor daughters in homely turn-of-the-century dresses) waving signs.
A problem arises in that quite a few ‘regressives’ are neither Christians or especially pro-life. There’s probably a taxonomy here of slang terms (like ‘regressives’, Repukes, and the ever popular Nazi allusions) where the group could be subdivided. I’d be happy to lend a hand.
I mostly just view the tug o’ war as being about money. You can rest assured that whoever is in office is all about building a more bullet-proof surveillance society, I give that up as a lost cause. What’s mostly left is my own feeble attempt to keep what wealth I have. Our society is crammed full with those who consider the commons to include the fruits of my labor. The Little Red Hen Society is reality.

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Todd Juvinall

28 May 2011

I guess Thornton is right about the “rightwing” violence across America. Here is a example. I guess I was wrong. Mea culpa, mea culpa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeaRJfvJokU
I would suggest we all watch this in its entirety so we better understand our conservative violent tendencies.

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Greg Goodknight

28 May 2011

who else, Thornton, writes, “There’s no doubt that rehressives [sic] live by the premise that “the ends justify the means”. This explains all manner of regressive behavior and tactics.”
Amazing that a five century old bad translation still gets repeated. Not amazing the amount of hate Thornton has for folks who don’t share his world view.
Machiavelli never wrote “the ends justify the means”. He did write that, when there are no disinterested observers, people will take the results into account when judging their Prince. The best (or at least effective) most modern application of this is the “politics of personal destruction” used by the Clintons with such effectiveness. Anyone who arose with valid challenges, whether regarding sexual harassments or political challenges, were reamed from one side and out the other, destroying their credibility as a fair and honest observer.

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