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George Rebane

[This is a transcript of my bi-weekly KVMR-FM commentary broadcast on 5 November 2010.]

Two years ago California voters approved Proposition 8 that made marriage, as a union between a man and a woman, a part of the state’s constitution.  According to the people, the debate about ‘marriage’ was over.  But this was not to be.  This August in US District Court, Judge Vaughn R Walker, who is a homosexual, held that this new clause in the state’s constitution violated the US Constitution 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection clauses.  And marriage became a relationship whose modern meaning was once more set adrift.  (more here and here)

Under Perry v. Schwarzenegger, Judge Walker’s ruling will be appealed to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals where you can bet the farm that it will be upheld, and then further appealed to the Supreme Court.  Most likely, the Supremes will vote 5 to 4 to uphold Judge Walker and declare Prop8 null and void.  And why will we have gone through all that?


The homosexual community freely admits that the whole purpose of the exercise is what they call “access to the language”.  They are already guaranteed the benefits of marriage which made up their last series of victories on their march toward ‘normalcy’.  Homosexual couples today have access to survivor pension benefits, access to family insurance plans, and rights to inheritance just like heterosexual married couples.  But what they didn’t have is the ability to pass themselves off as just another married couple introducing each other as their ‘husband’ or ‘wife’.  (Now this is where I began to have a problem following their argument – who is which?)

From his proceedings, part of Judge Walker’s collected testimony included that it was awkward for a gay couple to go into a bank and say, “My partner and I want to open a joint account.”  I suppose the less awkward alternative they sought was for a couple of guys to walk up to the teller and be able to say, “My wife and I want to open a joint account.”  Modern times.

The fundamental ruling from Walker was that “gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage.”  Under the judge’s ‘rational-basis review’ of the matter, a state law need only be “rationally related” to a “legitimate government interest”, and the long-acknowledged legitimate government interest of preserving public morals no longer held.  It isn’t clear now how state laws prohibiting gambling, nudity, polygamy, prostitution, and public drunkenness will be interpreted.

Traditional public interpretations of a practice being immoral will no longer be accepted as reason for prohibiting a behavior.  The basis for this was actually established in 2003 by the Supreme Court in Lawrence v. Texas, which asked the states to reexamine traditional ideas about marriage and strike down laws based on outdated moral codes.

Walker’s line of reasoning now leaves us open to consider the many other possibilities for ‘marriage’.  These include hetero- and homosexual polygamy, and a father marrying his daughter for openers.  Other more bizarre combinations may also qualify, all under Justice Anthony Kennedy’s dictum that everyone can define their own concepts “of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.”  According to Lawrence, the Bible can no longer be used to support statute, so father and daughter may decide that their lives can only be fulfilled within a conjugal marriage to each other.

That may be all well and good, but let us no longer confuse the gay lobby as being merely the proponent of toleration.  They have made it clear that their aim is to have modern society accept homosexuality as being equivalent to heterosexuality.  And Judge Walker’s ruling makes it clear that it is irrational to think that sex per se is in some way related to marriage.

As one of a more conservative bent, I feel that a sacrosanct word and its referent institution are being taken away from me.  I very much continue to believe that sex is related to marriage.  And since I am grateful and equally proud of my gender-orientation, must I now respond that ‘Yes, I am married – to a woman.’? 

If homosexual couples co-opt ‘marriage’ to define their relationship, what new word can the rest of us find to speak of a relationship that is not a union of fungible units?

I am George Rebane and I also expand on these and other themes in my Union columns, on NCTV, and on georgerebane.com where this transcript appears.  These opinions are not necessarily shared by KVMR.  Thank you for listening.

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19 responses to “Marriage – A Union of Fungible Units”

  1. Steve Enos Avatar
    Steve Enos

    George posts:
    “But what they didn’t have is the ability to pass themselves off as just another married couple introducing each other as their ‘husband’ or ‘wife’. (Now this is where I began to have a problem following their argument – who is which?)”
    “I feel that a sacrosanct word and its referent institution are being taken away from me”.
    “the less awkward alternative they sought was for a couple of guys to walk up to the teller and be able to say, “My wife and I want to open a joint account.” Modern times.
    “government interest of preserving public morals”
    “sex is related to marriage”
    George’s posted views on race and homosexuals is very telling.

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  2. Russ Steele Avatar

    Telling what? Let’s hear what you felt or thought. That may be more telling about you than anything that George wrote.

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  3. Todd Juvinall Avatar
    Todd Juvinall

    So Steve, do you support and agree the homosexual lifestyle? Are there no boundaries in society?

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  4. RL Crabb Avatar

    As we rocket toward the Singularity, the marriage question will only become more complicated. At some point, robots and androids will be as realistic as any human being, and programmed by their owners to fit whatever personality he or she chooses. It only follows that love will blossom in such a relationship.
    It will give new meaning to the AC/DC debate.

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  5. Russ Steele Avatar

    Bob,
    Great comment. I have been reading some of the comments you are posting at the SFR and you are on a roll!!

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  6. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    George,
    If a man and woman are married but do not have sex, should such a marriage be annulled by the state?
    Anne of Cleaves and Henry VIII come to mind…
    Michael A.

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  7. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    Bob – The concept that advanced robots and androids will be “programmed by their owners” is foreign to me in the presumed sense you use it. If they are primitive humanoid devices, then they might be programmed to serve a sexual gratification function. But no one would consider actually marrying such a machine.
    And if they are of the advanced state you imply, they will not be programmable by humans. They will be autonomous, and perhaps then consensual marriage would be possible in the brave new world of Judge Walker.

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  8. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    MichaelA – you ask a question the contingencies for which are numerous and complicated. In this piece I mainly focus on what new label can be assigned to the traditional heterosexual monogamous marriage that unambiguously identifies the institution which has been sacred among humans across cultures and millenia. In adopting such a label, we acknowledge transition to a new epoch in legitimate human relationships.

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  9. RL Crabb Avatar

    Turnabout is fair play. We won’t need androids to control us. Our human women perfected that eons ago.

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  10. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Humans separated sex from procreation long before recorded history: http://www.amazon.com/Prehistory-Sex-Million-Sexual-Culture/dp/product-description/055337527X
    What you’re really talking about here is the decoupling of sex from Christianity.

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  11. Barry Pruett Avatar

    Michael: Marriages end by being void or divorce. There are two types of void marriage. Void and voidable.
    Examples of void marriages (the marriage never existed) are:
    1. bigomous
    2. relation within two degrees
    3. the parties are not respectively male and female (in most states)
    Examples of voidable marriages (marriage exists but can be voided) are:
    1. at the time of the marriage, your wife was pregnant by some person other than you
    2. at the time of the marriage, your spouse was suffering from veneral disease in a communicable form
    3. the marriage has not been consummated owing to the wilful refusal of your spouse to consummate it
    So yes, a marraige can be voided…I doubt thatthe state could void it for you.
    I just wanted to have a little fun this morning!

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  12. Barry Pruett Avatar

    Come on Bob and Michael…I put it on a tee for you.

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  13. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Thanks Barry, you did indeed “put it on a tee.” I’ll be sure to get back to this after my kids’ soccer games this morning.
    And thanks George for teeing this subject up as well. I’m sure you’re going to get a lively debate out of this one!

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  14. Dixon Cruickshank Avatar
    Dixon Cruickshank

    I still want a post from Enos – on topic

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  15. Mikey McD Avatar
    Mikey McD

    Regarding the trend of women marrying themselves: http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/24040/woman-marries-herself/

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  16. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    Mikey,
    Perhaps Kim Kardashian should have married herself before the inevitable happened: http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/19194/kim-kardashians-butt-explodes/
    Michael A.

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  17. George Rebane Avatar
    George Rebane

    This is getting to be an education with women marrying themselves and exploding implants. I wonder when brain implants will become feasible. I bet it wouldn’t be hard to talk one of those lovelies into having one from an intellect with a terminal illness who just wants a healthy good looking body. Modern times.

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  18. Michael Anderson Avatar
    Michael Anderson

    So Barry, with void marriage #3 removed, it seems that none of the other void or voidable #s apply.
    I agree with you that gay marriage is about state law and not about cultural convention or religious precedent.

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  19. Dixon Cruickshank Avatar
    Dixon Cruickshank

    Stupid has always been an attribute I looked for in good looking women, preferably one that can’t find Lawyer in the phone book

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